Also have the sym x-frame racks, had KLR650 crash bars. Both fantastic products. FYI, I think mosko moto actually recommends these as their preferred racks for the T7
Thank you very much! There are 2 French who did more in Africa, also Lea Rieck had many km on T7 and had to pause her Africa trip as well due to Corona. There are probably many other... I'm only on 10k! and now with COVID19 in Morocco it really goes slow, hhaha.
High beam issue overcome it with a switch over micro relay (5 pin). Have the Normally Closed position hooked to the high beam input from the ADVMonster dimmer, leave the open pin (coil powered) empty, and the coil powered from the low beams. So when the voltage drops from the low beam the relay closes to the NC (NO COIL VOLTAGE) position and your Aux lights will turn on with the high beams.
Yes that would work very well. I'm now using simple (I think) 4 pin relay (maybe 5) and using the yellow wire from the high beam switch to pass 12V to the ADVMonster dimmer.
I was finally able to place my deposit on a T7 at my local US dealer. Should be riding in the first week of June. I will also be dressing my T7 in Outbackmototek. Thank you for the great video🤙
It is great machine isn’t it! I’m going to reach the 40k km mark for the first valve clearance and I suspect it will be waste of time 😂 as they will all be perfect.
@@FARANDFURTHER I would be very thankful if you did a video of that valve clearance. More for an extra mind when I tackle that task myself. I followed your video on the CB500X. It was very helpful. 13000 miles and in perfect spec all around. Another great bike.
Happy the video was useful. I can recommend ADVMonster, there are some threads on internet which say otherwise, but I only had good experience. I'll try to sortout the highbeam switching with them but they 1st need to release T7 in US to they can test.
I used the toolbox for my daily maintenance can fit chain Lube and adjustment tools and pack less regularly used tools deeper very easy at the end of the day travelling
You forgot to mention that crashed animal behind the windshield, looks funny there! (12:18 is this Czech krtek, the Little Mole?) Cool informative vlog!
Great video & keep up the good work. FYI - one US Gallon is actually 3.8 litres not 4.8 (one Imperial Gallon is 4.55 litres), so the 1 US Gallon Rotopax won’t get you quite as far as you think!
I should have done my homework... embarrassing 😂🤦♂️ But luckily I overfill the 1US gallon Rotopax to around 4.5ish liter. It is a bit annoying as it will leak when you open it but range is more important than fire safety in this case. I also have the MSR stove fuel bottle which is 1l as apocalypse backup.
FAR&FURTHER. I actually have the same arrangement & modified it very slightly a few days back by re-drilling the rear two holes in the Rotopax mounting plate 10mm closer to the front two holes. This allows the plate to fix 10mm further to the rear, making it easier to fit the fuel can and more importantly stops the front edge rubbing on the edge of the bikes rear faring (was worried that contact & vibration would eventually wear through the wall of the can)
That is really smart move! I'll steal that idea mainly because I need to move the mosko moto plates back (if I stay with MM) as now its too much in front and it's dangerous. The edge of the can does rub into the fairing but the rotopax is harder than the fairing so it is eating up the fairing not the can :)
I'm still in lockdown, Morocco extended lockdown till 10.6! My package with some parts has been stuck at the post for 7weeks somewhere. Seems the next steps will be to get to some EU country to sort out stuff for the African trip. It's proving difficult here, but mainly due to COVID.
You can fix the high beam over ride with a simple relay if your interested, tag me back. Had to do it on my Hayabusa with the cruise control system I fabricated for it.
Hello, Nice video. I've recently fitted the Yamaha toolbox that locates in the skid plate recess and I've found that the engine vibration is now uncomfortable whereas prior to fitting the toolbox vibration was almost absent. This morning I've fitted some rubber sheet (roofing membrane - NOT roofing felt) in between the toolbox and the skid plate. I'll try this and see if there's an improvement - otherwise, I may well remove it.
@@michaellaughlin3962 - Some difference but still a tad of vibration that I'll learn to live with. My least favourite part of the T7 is the tubed tyres. Having had a puncture over last weekend, with a 5 1/2 hour recovery time , thanks RAC - I miss the tubeless set up on my both my Tracer & V-Strom XT. Fixing a puncture was a simple 15 minute job.
Hi Phil, I have different problem with the toolbox for the Yamaha bash plate. I'm constantly destroying it! The problem is it's so badly engineered that it becomes the lowest part of the bike and also it is so wide to the side that when I drop the bike I immediately hit it. I may revert back to tool tubes or hire someone to build a proper tool box from the whole front part of the bashplate like they do for 701 or KTM 690. In terms of tubed tires, check out my other videos on OutEx tubeless conversion. I'm using it for years on my bikes and it performed excellent not to mention it's very economical. May be option for you as well.
Hello, Badly engineered? Is that the welding, the design or the material? Yes, the position is vulnerable but it does help keep a lower centre of gravity. My T7 may never see manic off-road riding as I have yet to master that skill, one day perhaps. As an adventure bike, Yamaha have missed important elements off this machine. It also adds a significant cost to ownership. Likewise the lack of a centre stand as standard. I will check video on OutEx - out.
Badly engineered in way that the welds are only from one side to its easy to crack. Also if it would be about 1.5cm shorter from the bottom it would be flush with the bash plate and not sticking out as it’s now. The position itself is perfect, low as it should be as you’re pointing out.
Ah! Good question, I do feel it only on left side for some reason. But I'm quite short with short legs so maybe it's not such pronounced problem for me, not sure about taller riders.
Hi Marc, thanks a lot for kind words, glad the video was useful. I used Outback crashbars as I liked the look of it and from the design it looked stronger than the OEM ones. The upper part of OEM ones does not have enough support in my opinion. I had similar design on Honda CB500X and I bent them towards the engine. As Outback has so many mounting points as well as 2 cross braces I think it's stronger.
Hi, Nice to see your using your bike for adventure. Have you had any issues with the brake pedal? Mind took a beating the other day and is twisted up, apart from a brake snake any other suggestions?
Hi Rich, thanks! I think she sees loads of adventure and I hope more is to come. The only problems with the brake pedal for me are: 1) it bends inwards almost every time I drop the bike and I have to bend it out 2) it is to far forward for my foot for offroad position 3) it is not well adjustable for off-road and road as the height of the pedal for off-road would push it way up for road. That being said, on my previous trip with the Honda CB500X I carried spare brake pedal because I did similar thing you describing many times. So I swapped the straight one for bend one and in nearest workshop I straightened damaged one and cycle repeated :)
You forgot to mention the accessory signatures on the gas tank , very important lol . I have been searching high and low for Tenere 700 parts in America and so far ProCycle has the most stuff but I will check out Rally Raid and the ADV one you mentioned . If I had to choose a bash plate I'd go with B&B . It's very thick and goes farther back to protect the suspension but I will keep looking . So far Outback Mototech is sold out of everything Tenere in the States , so maybe patience is the key with them . Oh one more thing , do you know how much wattage is left for accessories on the stock stator . Want to know what the bike can handle as far as added electrical equipment . Happy trails !
Signatures are very important, they're from people I meet on the road. I guess the suppply for T7 accessories will now be under big pressure in US with it's release. I will see how much the suspension gets beat up and if I have dents on it I'll modify my bashplate to protect it, so far its quite intact. I was looking at the stator specs and can't wind output it is rated for in the specification so I'm not sure.
Our Tenere 700 parts are now on their way to the States. Anticipated availability will be around next week but also depends on the current customs clearance work load of FedEx
@@FARANDFURTHER With my DR650 you get about 50 extra watts , then you need to get a high watt stator . I gained a little more watts when I switched to LED bulbs . I will get even more when I put in the DOT LED headlight . That will give me enough watts for several accessories/mods .
If Yamaha is anything like Honda CB500X was, there was massive amount of spare capacity on Honda. I suppose it would be same with T7, not to mention that most of the lights are LEDs keeping load low.
Great video. Did you have any issues mounting the Mosko Moto wedge on the Outback Motortek xFrame along with the rotopak? Because you have to mount towards the front edge of the pannier rack to make room for the rotopak mount I wonder how the the little blue mosko clamps fit over the protruding exterior edges of the xFrame pannier (where there are additional loops). Hope that makes sense. Thanks!
Hi Kelly, yes I had problems but nothing angle grinder can't fix. What I needed to do is to push the X-frame as far back as possible and in order to do so I did grind the sharp corners of the X-frame so it fits snugly in the rack. Apart from this change it was fine and worked very very well, the whole thing is really just rock solid. The Mosko wedge goes from the outside of the frame and the clamps go onto inside side of the frame. I had my first aid kit strapped there behind the frame.
Hi. Also, did the Mosko Moto plate fit easily onto the Outback Motortek X -frame together with the X-plate or did you have to modify things? I ask at the Mosko Moto site recommends the standard rack. Cheers
Hi Hugo, the plates fit together with the X-Frame quite well with one issue. As you have the X bracket you have to position the Mosko plate in such way that it's not in a way and you can mount it using 3-4 mosko brackets. That will result in a situation where you either have bags all the way to the front or to the back. I used the front position and I think is risky as the bags are wide and very close to your feet and when you paddle (in a sand for example) your foot may get caught under the bag as it's just too close. Rear position would put the weight quite far back which may have effects on the suspension and so on. In my opinion, if you don't want to mount Rotopax or other accessories onto the racks maybe just plain Outback frame and Mosko plate is the better option as you'll be able to position the plate freely.
Awesome infos!! You mentioned the Touratech crash bars.. do you think today it's a better alternative? I am curious of your point of view concerning the luggage racks. It seems you constantly keep the racks. Is that also for protection or to get use to train with the weight of it? I think I ll go for Enduristan with no rack as I don't carry much even for long trips. Glad to get your opinion.
Hi Rudy, I can't really comment on Touratech bars as I have not seen them physically, are they steel or aluminium? If aluminium, I'd definitely prefer steel, easier to weld and bend. Yes I keep racks all the time on the bike. It's not because of protection but because I have the Rotopax, Tooltube, First aid kit and Compressor on it all the time. The thing is for long distance/long term I need to put a lot of things on the bike and some like the list above is better not to have in luggage in case I travel without luggage (shopping, short enduro trip etc...) I still want to have those but not the luggage. The weight of the rack is 5.6kg, that's what you save if you go rackless, but then, where I would carry all those things? Best fix for the weight is to workout and be strong enough to handle those 5.6kg in my opinion :)
But if you travel on shorter trips, you don't need rotopax and you can pack all you need to rackless system, then of course, less weight is only better.
@@FARANDFURTHER I guess I will have to intensify my workout as I plan to do Romania - Cape North this year and France - Japan next year :)) Tks for your comments!
Hi, Im a little bit confused about the Outback Motortek X-Frames (used your link). If i check the pictures they look much lower and the connector bar between both sides also looks lower than on you bike/video. Do you know anything specific about that? Maybe product updated? enjoyed your video, greetings from germany :)
Hi Ness, well... my X-Frames are the fist symetric version. Since that time Outback evolved those quite a bit so that's one, 2nd... my racks are super super modified now, I have a separate video about slimming the Outback rack and making it into the Rotopax holder.
Great video...I am looking to acquire an ADV bike. It is a toss-up at the present time between the T7 with a lot of accessories/upgrades versus the KTM 890. From what I can best tell upgrading the T7 to a technically equivalent KTM 890 standard would make it more expensive than buying the later. Any thoughts you have would be appreciated. Please keep in mind I am 189cm tall weighing in at 95Kg. Cheers
This is very difficult question for me to answer, I never owned KTM, also if I'd not start doing rally ridding on T7 I'd not put so much money into some of the more speciality mods which would keep the price down. I like the simplicity of T7 its power delivery and the fact it is a platform which you can kind of turn into whatever you want. I've not upgraded massively suspension and the mods I have on T7 I'd do on KTM as well (protection, steering damper, luggage) so I'm probably cheaper still. With suspension upgrade I'd probably endup on the same price as stock KTM. But it really is a question what needs to be changed on the T7 and that question is very individual to the rider.
@@FARANDFURTHER Thank you for replying. The points you mark are valid. Looks like I will need to test ride both and take it from there. Your thoughts were appreciated. Thank you.
@@kimparkin5254 Most welcome, without test riding or lending it for a while it is very difficult to guess what will suit you. Like my video about high fender... until I tested the options I thought I need high one... but nope.
Possibly, I've not done really research into what all the bars/bashplates do wanted more say stuff about what I have. I'm sure gradually there will be a lot of options.
Ah... indeed. Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you mean that the SW-Motech crash bars do protect the pump. This is a separate product from SW-Motech to protect it. Yes it would work well.
It's not a penguin its The Mole: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mole_(Krtek) And yea, it's one of the crucial parts I should have mentioned... It makes bike and people around it happy :)
By the Way, Hepco & Becker And Touratech have almost identical Crash Bars and Engine Guards for the T7 with almost the same price, I don't know what's the best choice on those
I can't recommend here. I have not looked in detail into Touratech or H&B, isn't the Touratech aluminum bar? I think the Touratech does connect to lower frame as well protecting the water pump on the right side which most people won't use, but I kind of do.... :)
You have literally demolished almost everything, if it resisted torture you're putting it through it's basically tough enough :D Did you get to find anything for the RX100V, Can't find a thing for now :(
Hehe, Outback messages me time to time, checking if I managed to break anything theirs, so far they are being proud ;) But I've not finished yet! 😜 Well if those products are meant to be "adventure" ready... lets see if they're! I didn't manage to look at it, I can buy the spare parts in Europe, but have not looked in Morocco, the problem looking here is language. Search in English is very ineffective and I don't speak French or Arabic.
I'm going to send you link to an exact part I need. I need to first take it off camera and maybe that will make it easier to track something here in MK. Thanks for help and time!
Hi so I've taken the Sony appart again and I need main lens cable. It is available on eBay for example under this listing: bit.ly/3ezgv0A The part number is LF-2091-12
Hi! Enjoying your channel, thanks!!’ I am debating if I will buy another wr250r and put $4000 into adventurizing it or a t700 and out 2000 into it lol. What front tire are you running and how does it perform on this bike? Looks like an e-09 or tkc 80. Apologies if you said already.
The wrr is pretty great but the highway sucks on it. At least my buddies tends to overheat, maybe not all of them do that. It's a tkc80 front, 95% sure.
I'm running TKC80 in the front, it has been recommended to me and it did handle very well in the Morocco. I used before on Honda Mitas E-07 which was much less off-road but it was invincible. I had 4 punctures in the front TKC80 in Morocco over 5 months and 0 on rear Mitas E-07+ Dakar which I had. The rear was worn out completely after 14000km.
@@FARANDFURTHER TKCs are very soft, i doubt they are very puncture resistant. i have had a puncture on my front TKC80 as well but I think that was due to a pinchflat. still a good tire but maybe not the best RTW tire?
@@0xsergy I've converted T7 to tubeless so for me fixing simple puncture is matter of 10 minutes.... Well RTW tire is any tire really, it is impossible to get tires you want everywhere so I had Mitas E-07 for longevity and in Kazakhstan I bought Shinko 804 as they didn't have much else... and I was happy to have something :)
@@FARANDFURTHER imho i wouldn't go tkc80 just due to how soft the compound is, very easy to get a pinch flat and the like. i hear good things about the shinko, i think the rubber isn't quite as soft as the tkcs. also, my tkc80s are cracking quite a bit and i store the bike inside with tires that are only a few months old. maybe bad batch but idk.
No no, no dedicated water pump protection. Outback has lower crash bar and upper crash bar and what I have installed are both. What I'd like is what Touratech has on its lower crash bar. There is a pipe going from above the engine casing over the water pump down to the frame mount.
You want the measurement or just truthful ballpark.... too wide. The problem is not really the Mosko but the fact that the symmetrical design of the rack does make the bike excessively wide. I'm now looking for a bit leaner solution.
@@twodirtywheels1498 I've just tested Mosko Moto Reckless 80L and it is much much leaner than the rack & panniers, I'd guess you loose about 20cm in total width with the Reckless.
Hi Jay, at that time I didn't need to change those. The accessories were not for the looks but for the function and I didn't mind the OEM rear. Now after 60kkm and 3 years, I have moved to CamelAdv tail tidy because I have the high exhaust and my indicators got toasted...
Hi. Very helpful list. A question on the Outback Motortek pannier rack. Is the width of the rack on either side the same? (ie: distance from centre of bike to each X-plate?) What is the total width of the rack with no panniers? Cheers and safe travels
Hi Hugo, yes the rack is the same on each side, it's symetrical design. I'm not sure but I think Outback is now offering also asymetrical design whrere the side without the exhaust is closer. I've taken the racks off the bike as I'm now bought Rackless system... I'll try to put it together somehow to get the measurement later.
@@FARANDFURTHER many thanks. It sounds as if you have moved on from your original setup and if you were starting again, you probably would not chose the same solution. Things evolve so this is to be expected. Many thanks again. Back to the drawing board for me... Safe travels
The Mosko moto Backcountry bags were an experiment. I bought them 2nd hand and the reason why there is not a review on my channel is that I needed some time to ride with them to evaluate if I like them or not and what I actually don't like. Rackless is another experiment (expensive one though) but I hope it will minimise problems I had with backcountry although I can already see it will bring another... As you say, it's evolution and I really wanted to test the setup before heading out for long time, I'm glad I did now I'll test the Rackless over winter and see if it works, lets see...
@@FARANDFURTHER Brilliant. Pls keep up your great reviews. They are much appreciated. I am going through options for a ride to the Road of Bones in July.
@@FARANDFURTHER Hello, thanks for the video. Please can you give me some detailed information what you don't like on the backcountry bags, because I was plannning to take them for longer rides.
I think he said in a different video that he was 168cm. Could be wrong though but check out his video where he tells you how to pick it up when you drop it. He states it there.
Hi Johanes, not real reason really. I didn't have center stand before on my Honda CB500X as I raised it and OEM was short and I got used to it. I'm using my trail stand (separate video) to do most of the work on the road and for other repairs and maintenance, there is always garage.
Good question! I've dropped bike numerous times now and the headlight started to work, then it stopped for a bit so I went out did some jumps and it works again.... how odd!
I've done this video quite long ago and at that time I didn't have suspension upgrades on the T7. Now I've 40k and the situation is different as I've replaced both front and rear suspension after finding the OEM limits on the MX track and 2x Dinaric rally.
Hi Steve, I don't know but I'm really happy to measure if you tell me exactly what you want to measure. Do I understand you want distance between centres of the forks at the top of the top clamp?
Yes I hope the borders will open by the end of June or during July. We have rumors from locals who work in the airlines that the flights should resume 10th but I'd not bet on that one.
I saw in another video he was 5'6 and came to this video to see if he installed the lower seat or the lowering link, which I guess he did not. Me also being 5'6, I'm happy to see other "short" riders on what is a somewhat tall bike. (35" seat height if I recall)
Hi Chris, you're right I've not lowered anything on the bike. So far so good. She is tall bike for us shorter riders but it is manageable, of course low speed handling is a bit tricky and needs some muscle but in terms of riding it does feel like it fits well. Also... lets not forget Gaston Rahier who was 164 and won Dakar ;)
Because I measured my static and rider sag and it is much higher with luggage than it should be no matter how I set the preload. This means the spring rate is wrong for my weight + load I usually have on the bike. If I ride without any luggage I can get it close but with a lot of preload and that is not good either.
@@FARANDFURTHER Good job! Weird that the OEM spring doesn't cover the weight of you and luggage which I recon is around 85kg. We're waiting for impressions when you ride with the new spring, after setting the sag correctly. Don't forget to readjust rebound and compression. Cheers!
Morocco just announced the extension of the lockdown so the impressions with new spring will have to wait. I'm now constantly working on tweaking the stock suspenstion and taking the measurements so when I have new spring I'll be able to have not only feelings but also some numbers. I'm playing with the clickers yes, but it's long process as I change, ride same track few times take measurements and then move to other setting and so on... I'm 68kg luggage is +- 35-40kg depending how much extra fuel and water and sag is wrong.
No.1 needed Tenere 700 accessory = *_Engine Protectors/Crash Bars._* WHY? The Yamaha Tenere 700 is a very good bike _But_ it has a major fault or flaw: - *_it is heavy_* for a dirt bike - and it's weight is high making it top heavy This issue is why you hear and/or see many riders of all levels laying down the bike or crashing it *_more_* than other adventure bikes. As another RESULT of the TOP HEAVY WEIGHT the Tenere 700 is harder to pick up with many smaller men & many women not being able to pick it up.
I kind of think people are thinking about Tenere 700 as a "dirt bike"... there are no dirt bikes with weight 200+kg. There is a video in which the guy measured the weight one is lifting with different bikes and T7 was not definitely the heaviest of the adventure bikes out there. Yes, it is top heavy, but that's relative to what one compares it to...
I think it is entirely personal choice. How are you going to fit 21" wheel to the front and 18" to the rear of the Multistranda? 113hp is way too much for me and its slightly heavier. It's completely different bike, not something I'd like to take on my trips.
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Thanks for the shoutout and the honest review. We're happy to improve where it's necessary!
I'm happy to ride with Outback, few little tweaks and it will be the ultimate solution for me! Can't wait!
It's a brand new product for a new bike..noone is gonna get it right on the first shot.
Also have the sym x-frame racks, had KLR650 crash bars. Both fantastic products. FYI, I think mosko moto actually recommends these as their preferred racks for the T7
@@markymark2967 not only Mosko Moto recommend our pannier racks but they actually sell them in the USA and the EU
Yep, I totally agree!
Really informative. I appreciate you going over your t700 and being so detailed. Its helped alot!
Glad it was helpful! Trying my best.
I know no other who has been through so much with the T7 than you. :) Great work on all areas. 👏
Thank you very much! There are 2 French who did more in Africa, also Lea Rieck had many km on T7 and had to pause her Africa trip as well due to Corona. There are probably many other... I'm only on 10k! and now with COVID19 in Morocco it really goes slow, hhaha.
Escapades are not only measured in km :) Well, keep it rolling. Both the bike and the cam.
@@NomadSweden Very true!
High beam issue overcome it with a switch over micro relay (5 pin). Have the Normally Closed position hooked to the high beam input from the ADVMonster dimmer, leave the open pin (coil powered) empty, and the coil powered from the low beams. So when the voltage drops from the low beam the relay closes to the NC (NO COIL VOLTAGE) position and your Aux lights will turn on with the high beams.
Yes that would work very well. I'm now using simple (I think) 4 pin relay (maybe 5) and using the yellow wire from the high beam switch to pass 12V to the ADVMonster dimmer.
I was finally able to place my deposit on a T7 at my local US dealer. Should be riding in the first week of June.
I will also be dressing my T7 in Outbackmototek.
Thank you for the great video🤙
Congratulations! 👍👏 You know what is ironic? Morocco should lift the COVID19 lockdown 10.6. so we may be able to ride at the same time 😂🤷🏻♂️
Hey how is the bike working out for you?
@@bongo990 I love it. An outstanding bike. Having a lot of fun on it.
It is great machine isn’t it! I’m going to reach the 40k km mark for the first valve clearance and I suspect it will be waste of time 😂 as they will all be perfect.
@@FARANDFURTHER I would be very thankful if you did a video of that valve clearance. More for an extra mind when I tackle that task myself.
I followed your video on the CB500X. It was very helpful. 13000 miles and in perfect spec all around. Another great bike.
I bent burkbuster on both sides. right felt into snow 15km/h
other on intersection 25km/h
Interesting, try the Cycra handguards, heard the're stronger than the Barkbusters.
Good informative video. I'm going to check out those flood lights for sure. 👍
Happy the video was useful. I can recommend ADVMonster, there are some threads on internet which say otherwise, but I only had good experience. I'll try to sortout the highbeam switching with them but they 1st need to release T7 in US to they can test.
thanks man.. just ordered my bike, and this video has been so helpful
Glad it helped! And congratulations!
I used the toolbox for my daily maintenance can fit chain Lube and adjustment tools and pack less regularly used tools deeper very easy at the end of the day travelling
You mean the Yamaha OEM toolbox which fits the bashplate? I just got it and modified the Outback crash bars... lets see what I can fit in it.
Seat problem solved: remove screws and metal inserts flip metal inserts over & screw down in place, then install seat over them.
Yep, done that at some point. Very good hack.
New owner here. Excellent and informative vid. Subscribed. 👍
Welcome aboard!
Very good, informative video....thank you!!
You're most welcome Allen, glad it was helpful.
Great video. Very informative. Great mods!
Thank you very much, happy it was helpful.
Very interesting video. Greeting from Patagonia Argentina
Thanks for watching!
You forgot to mention that crashed animal behind the windshield, looks funny there! (12:18 is this Czech krtek, the Little Mole?) Cool informative vlog!
Hehe... yes, it is Czech Krtek... I think he is not crashed there I think he is excited what's coming :) and occasionally scared. Thanks!
@@FARANDFURTHER :))) We are exited what's coming next too!
Great video & keep up the good work. FYI - one US Gallon is actually 3.8 litres not 4.8 (one Imperial Gallon is 4.55 litres), so the 1 US Gallon Rotopax won’t get you quite as far as you think!
I should have done my homework... embarrassing 😂🤦♂️ But luckily I overfill the 1US gallon Rotopax to around 4.5ish liter. It is a bit annoying as it will leak when you open it but range is more important than fire safety in this case. I also have the MSR stove fuel bottle which is 1l as apocalypse backup.
FAR&FURTHER. I actually have the same arrangement & modified it very slightly a few days back by re-drilling the rear two holes in the Rotopax mounting plate 10mm closer to the front two holes. This allows the plate to fix 10mm further to the rear, making it easier to fit the fuel can and more importantly stops the front edge rubbing on the edge of the bikes rear faring (was worried that contact & vibration would eventually wear through the wall of the can)
That is really smart move! I'll steal that idea mainly because I need to move the mosko moto plates back (if I stay with MM) as now its too much in front and it's dangerous. The edge of the can does rub into the fairing but the rotopax is harder than the fairing so it is eating up the fairing not the can :)
Krteček je boží 😉👍
Krteček je cestovatel :)
Great Job
Thank you, glad it was useful.
Very informative video, thanks for doing this. Did you get your headlight sorted or are you still in lockdown ?
I'm still in lockdown, Morocco extended lockdown till 10.6! My package with some parts has been stuck at the post for 7weeks somewhere. Seems the next steps will be to get to some EU country to sort out stuff for the African trip. It's proving difficult here, but mainly due to COVID.
Headlight seems to fix itself if I drop the bike enough during the day... so I'm keeping on that and it is working at about 70% of time :) HEHEHE
Nice vid!
Thank you, glad it was useful.
You can fix the high beam over ride with a simple relay if your interested, tag me back. Had to do it on my Hayabusa with the cruise control system I fabricated for it.
Hi Shaun, yes after some research and fiddling I have now just simple automotive relay which is able to switch the High beam as I need to.
Hello, Nice video. I've recently fitted the Yamaha toolbox that locates in the skid plate recess and I've found that the engine vibration is now uncomfortable whereas prior to fitting the toolbox vibration was almost absent. This morning I've fitted some rubber sheet (roofing membrane - NOT roofing felt) in between the toolbox and the skid plate. I'll try this and see if there's an improvement - otherwise, I may well remove it.
@Phil_Danger did your membrane fix help to dampen the vibration?
@@michaellaughlin3962 - Some difference but still a tad of vibration that I'll learn to live with. My least favourite part of the T7 is the tubed tyres. Having had a puncture over last weekend, with a 5 1/2 hour recovery time , thanks RAC - I miss the tubeless set up on my both my Tracer & V-Strom XT. Fixing a puncture was a simple 15 minute job.
Hi Phil,
I have different problem with the toolbox for the Yamaha bash plate. I'm constantly destroying it! The problem is it's so badly engineered that it becomes the lowest part of the bike and also it is so wide to the side that when I drop the bike I immediately hit it. I may revert back to tool tubes or hire someone to build a proper tool box from the whole front part of the bashplate like they do for 701 or KTM 690.
In terms of tubed tires, check out my other videos on OutEx tubeless conversion. I'm using it for years on my bikes and it performed excellent not to mention it's very economical. May be option for you as well.
Hello, Badly engineered? Is that the welding, the design or the material? Yes, the position is vulnerable but it does help keep a lower centre of gravity. My T7 may never see manic off-road riding as I have yet to master that skill, one day perhaps. As an adventure bike, Yamaha have missed important elements off this machine. It also adds a significant cost to ownership. Likewise the lack of a centre stand as standard. I will check video on OutEx - out.
Badly engineered in way that the welds are only from one side to its easy to crack. Also if it would be about 1.5cm shorter from the bottom it would be flush with the bash plate and not sticking out as it’s now. The position itself is perfect, low as it should be as you’re pointing out.
Great video series. About OM crash bars. Do you have any interfernce with your legs at the rear mount point?
Ah! Good question, I do feel it only on left side for some reason. But I'm quite short with short legs so maybe it's not such pronounced problem for me, not sure about taller riders.
Nice job-From Seattle Washington
Thanks
Hi! Thanks for your video, it's perfect! I have one question, Why didn't you choose the OEM Yamaha Crash Bars? Thanks!!! :)
Hi Marc, thanks a lot for kind words, glad the video was useful. I used Outback crashbars as I liked the look of it and from the design it looked stronger than the OEM ones. The upper part of OEM ones does not have enough support in my opinion. I had similar design on Honda CB500X and I bent them towards the engine. As Outback has so many mounting points as well as 2 cross braces I think it's stronger.
Very helpfull! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! I should probably do followup after another 6k ;)
Hi, Nice to see your using your bike for adventure. Have you had any issues with the brake pedal?
Mind took a beating the other day and is twisted up, apart from a brake snake any other suggestions?
Hi Rich, thanks! I think she sees loads of adventure and I hope more is to come. The only problems with the brake pedal for me are:
1) it bends inwards almost every time I drop the bike and I have to bend it out
2) it is to far forward for my foot for offroad position
3) it is not well adjustable for off-road and road as the height of the pedal for off-road would push it way up for road.
That being said, on my previous trip with the Honda CB500X I carried spare brake pedal because I did similar thing you describing many times.
So I swapped the straight one for bend one and in nearest workshop I straightened damaged one and cycle repeated :)
You forgot to mention the accessory signatures on the gas tank , very important lol .
I have been searching high and low for Tenere 700 parts in America and so far ProCycle has the most stuff but I will check out Rally Raid and the ADV one you mentioned . If I had to choose a bash plate I'd go with B&B . It's very thick and goes farther back to protect the suspension but I will keep looking . So far Outback Mototech is sold out of everything Tenere in the States , so maybe patience is the key with them .
Oh one more thing , do you know how much wattage is left for accessories on the stock stator . Want to know what the bike can handle as far as added electrical equipment . Happy trails !
Signatures are very important, they're from people I meet on the road. I guess the suppply for T7 accessories will now be under big pressure in US with it's release. I will see how much the suspension gets beat up and if I have dents on it I'll modify my bashplate to protect it, so far its quite intact.
I was looking at the stator specs and can't wind output it is rated for in the specification so I'm not sure.
Our Tenere 700 parts are now on their way to the States. Anticipated availability will be around next week but also depends on the current customs clearance work load of FedEx
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With my DR650 you get about 50 extra watts , then you need to get a high watt stator . I gained a little more watts when I switched to LED bulbs . I will get even more when I put in the DOT LED headlight . That will give me enough watts for several accessories/mods .
If Yamaha is anything like Honda CB500X was, there was massive amount of spare capacity on Honda. I suppose it would be same with T7, not to mention that most of the lights are LEDs keeping load low.
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Yeah that makes sense .
Thank's very interesting👌
Most welcome! 👍
Skvělé video!
Mockrát děkuji, jsem rád, že je užitečný.
Great video. Did you have any issues mounting the Mosko Moto wedge on the Outback Motortek xFrame along with the rotopak? Because you have to mount towards the front edge of the pannier rack to make room for the rotopak mount I wonder how the the little blue mosko clamps fit over the protruding exterior edges of the xFrame pannier (where there are additional loops). Hope that makes sense. Thanks!
Hi Kelly, yes I had problems but nothing angle grinder can't fix. What I needed to do is to push the X-frame as far back as possible and in order to do so I did grind the sharp corners of the X-frame so it fits snugly in the rack.
Apart from this change it was fine and worked very very well, the whole thing is really just rock solid.
The Mosko wedge goes from the outside of the frame and the clamps go onto inside side of the frame. I had my first aid kit strapped there behind the frame.
I hope I did answer the question, if not please follow up.
@@FARANDFURTHER That is perfect. Thanks!
Hi. Also, did the Mosko Moto plate fit easily onto the Outback Motortek X -frame together with the X-plate or did you have to modify things? I ask at the Mosko Moto site recommends the standard rack. Cheers
Hi Hugo, the plates fit together with the X-Frame quite well with one issue. As you have the X bracket you have to position the Mosko plate in such way that it's not in a way and you can mount it using 3-4 mosko brackets.
That will result in a situation where you either have bags all the way to the front or to the back. I used the front position and I think is risky as the bags are wide and very close to your feet and when you paddle (in a sand for example) your foot may get caught under the bag as it's just too close.
Rear position would put the weight quite far back which may have effects on the suspension and so on.
In my opinion, if you don't want to mount Rotopax or other accessories onto the racks maybe just plain Outback frame and Mosko plate is the better option as you'll be able to position the plate freely.
Awesome infos!!
You mentioned the Touratech crash bars.. do you think today it's a better alternative?
I am curious of your point of view concerning the luggage racks. It seems you constantly keep the racks. Is that also for protection or to get use to train with the weight of it? I think I ll go for Enduristan with no rack as I don't carry much even for long trips. Glad to get your opinion.
Hi Rudy, I can't really comment on Touratech bars as I have not seen them physically, are they steel or aluminium? If aluminium, I'd definitely prefer steel, easier to weld and bend.
Yes I keep racks all the time on the bike. It's not because of protection but because I have the Rotopax, Tooltube, First aid kit and Compressor on it all the time. The thing is for long distance/long term I need to put a lot of things on the bike and some like the list above is better not to have in luggage in case I travel without luggage (shopping, short enduro trip etc...) I still want to have those but not the luggage.
The weight of the rack is 5.6kg, that's what you save if you go rackless, but then, where I would carry all those things?
Best fix for the weight is to workout and be strong enough to handle those 5.6kg in my opinion :)
But if you travel on shorter trips, you don't need rotopax and you can pack all you need to rackless system, then of course, less weight is only better.
@@FARANDFURTHER I guess I will have to intensify my workout as I plan to do Romania - Cape North this year and France - Japan next year :)) Tks for your comments!
@@FARANDFURTHER Yes steel/inox
Good plans, workout does pay off. I try to attend the Horizons Unlimited Romania if I manage to go EU and the event is not canceled.
Hi, Im a little bit confused about the Outback Motortek X-Frames (used your link). If i check the pictures they look much lower and the connector bar between both sides also looks lower than on you bike/video. Do you know anything specific about that? Maybe product updated?
enjoyed your video, greetings from germany :)
Hi Ness, well... my X-Frames are the fist symetric version. Since that time Outback evolved those quite a bit so that's one, 2nd... my racks are super super modified now, I have a separate video about slimming the Outback rack and making it into the Rotopax holder.
Hello. Can you provide a link to the Rally Rate Bracket? I can’t seem to locate it. Thank you…and thank you for the video.
This one? www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/yamaha-t7-tenere/yamaha-t7-tenere-top-clamp-handlebar-billet
Great video...I am looking to acquire an ADV bike. It is a toss-up at the present time between the T7 with a lot of accessories/upgrades versus the KTM 890. From what I can best tell upgrading the T7 to a technically equivalent KTM 890 standard would make it more expensive than buying the later. Any thoughts you have would be appreciated. Please keep in mind I am 189cm tall weighing in at 95Kg.
Cheers
This is very difficult question for me to answer, I never owned KTM, also if I'd not start doing rally ridding on T7 I'd not put so much money into some of the more speciality mods which would keep the price down.
I like the simplicity of T7 its power delivery and the fact it is a platform which you can kind of turn into whatever you want.
I've not upgraded massively suspension and the mods I have on T7 I'd do on KTM as well (protection, steering damper, luggage) so I'm probably cheaper still. With suspension upgrade I'd probably endup on the same price as stock KTM.
But it really is a question what needs to be changed on the T7 and that question is very individual to the rider.
@@FARANDFURTHER Thank you for replying. The points you mark are valid. Looks like I will need to test ride both and take it from there. Your thoughts were appreciated. Thank you.
@@kimparkin5254 Most welcome, without test riding or lending it for a while it is very difficult to guess what will suit you. Like my video about high fender... until I tested the options I thought I need high one... but nope.
Sw-Motech have a "Water pump protection".
Possibly, I've not done really research into what all the bars/bashplates do wanted more say stuff about what I have. I'm sure gradually there will be a lot of options.
Just checked, no SW-Motech crash bars do not protect the water pump or engine casing.
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@@jrslett nice
Ah... indeed. Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you mean that the SW-Motech crash bars do protect the pump. This is a separate product from SW-Motech to protect it. Yes it would work well.
Hello congratulations for video. Sorry, what mirrors you mount?
I have Double take mirrors on the RAM mount arms.
U missed mentioning the penguin ahead😂
It's not a penguin its The Mole: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mole_(Krtek)
And yea, it's one of the crucial parts I should have mentioned... It makes bike and people around it happy :)
By the Way, Hepco & Becker And Touratech have almost identical Crash Bars and Engine Guards for the T7 with almost the same price, I don't know what's the best choice on those
I can't recommend here. I have not looked in detail into Touratech or H&B, isn't the Touratech aluminum bar? I think the Touratech does connect to lower frame as well protecting the water pump on the right side which most people won't use, but I kind of do.... :)
@@FARANDFURTHER I don't know neither but from a design perspective they look almost identical
I guess at some point there is only limited number of solutions. :)
You have literally demolished almost everything, if it resisted torture you're putting it through it's basically tough enough :D
Did you get to find anything for the RX100V, Can't find a thing for now :(
Hehe, Outback messages me time to time, checking if I managed to break anything theirs, so far they are being proud ;) But I've not finished yet! 😜
Well if those products are meant to be "adventure" ready... lets see if they're!
I didn't manage to look at it, I can buy the spare parts in Europe, but have not looked in Morocco, the problem looking here is language. Search in English is very ineffective and I don't speak French or Arabic.
@@FARANDFURTHER I can try on my side, maybe I'll find something, not sure though
I'm going to send you link to an exact part I need. I need to first take it off camera and maybe that will make it easier to track something here in MK. Thanks for help and time!
Hi so I've taken the Sony appart again and I need main lens cable. It is available on eBay for example under this listing:
bit.ly/3ezgv0A
The part number is LF-2091-12
Hi! Enjoying your channel, thanks!!’ I am debating if I will buy another wr250r and put $4000 into adventurizing it or a t700 and out 2000 into it lol. What front tire are you running and how does it perform on this bike? Looks like an e-09 or tkc 80. Apologies if you said already.
The wrr is pretty great but the highway sucks on it. At least my buddies tends to overheat, maybe not all of them do that. It's a tkc80 front, 95% sure.
I'm running TKC80 in the front, it has been recommended to me and it did handle very well in the Morocco. I used before on Honda Mitas E-07 which was much less off-road but it was invincible.
I had 4 punctures in the front TKC80 in Morocco over 5 months and 0 on rear Mitas E-07+ Dakar which I had. The rear was worn out completely after 14000km.
@@FARANDFURTHER TKCs are very soft, i doubt they are very puncture resistant. i have had a puncture on my front TKC80 as well but I think that was due to a pinchflat. still a good tire but maybe not the best RTW tire?
@@0xsergy I've converted T7 to tubeless so for me fixing simple puncture is matter of 10 minutes.... Well RTW tire is any tire really, it is impossible to get tires you want everywhere so I had Mitas E-07 for longevity and in Kazakhstan I bought Shinko 804 as they didn't have much else... and I was happy to have something :)
@@FARANDFURTHER imho i wouldn't go tkc80 just due to how soft the compound is, very easy to get a pinch flat and the like. i hear good things about the shinko, i think the rubber isn't quite as soft as the tkcs. also, my tkc80s are cracking quite a bit and i store the bike inside with tires that are only a few months old. maybe bad batch but idk.
Is the touratech waterpump crash bars compatible with the outback motortek crash bars?
Not sure. What setup you have in mind? Having lower bars from Touratech and upper from Outback? What would be the reason?
Oh are these complete lower crash bars? I thought they were dedicated water pump/engine case protection.
No no, no dedicated water pump protection. Outback has lower crash bar and upper crash bar and what I have installed are both. What I'd like is what Touratech has on its lower crash bar. There is a pipe going from above the engine casing over the water pump down to the frame mount.
Great video,
what s the width of the bike with the Mosko moto panniers installed please?
You want the measurement or just truthful ballpark.... too wide. The problem is not really the Mosko but the fact that the symmetrical design of the rack does make the bike excessively wide. I'm now looking for a bit leaner solution.
@@FARANDFURTHER yes, just the measurement please?
maybe with the Reckless 80L will look leaner ? ...I am just looking for something not too bulky but with still some rooms for long travels :)
@@twodirtywheels1498 I've just tested Mosko Moto Reckless 80L and it is much much leaner than the rack & panniers, I'd guess you loose about 20cm in total width with the Reckless.
I'm confused, why do all those mods and leave the floppy plate holder, blinkers stock.? Save 2 pounds junk it!
Hi Jay, at that time I didn't need to change those. The accessories were not for the looks but for the function and I didn't mind the OEM rear. Now after 60kkm and 3 years, I have moved to CamelAdv tail tidy because I have the high exhaust and my indicators got toasted...
Hi. Very helpful list. A question on the Outback Motortek pannier rack. Is the width of the rack on either side the same? (ie: distance from centre of bike to each X-plate?) What is the total width of the rack with no panniers? Cheers and safe travels
Hi Hugo, yes the rack is the same on each side, it's symetrical design. I'm not sure but I think Outback is now offering also asymetrical design whrere the side without the exhaust is closer.
I've taken the racks off the bike as I'm now bought Rackless system... I'll try to put it together somehow to get the measurement later.
@@FARANDFURTHER many thanks. It sounds as if you have moved on from your original setup and if you were starting again, you probably would not chose the same solution. Things evolve so this is to be expected. Many thanks again. Back to the drawing board for me... Safe travels
The Mosko moto Backcountry bags were an experiment. I bought them 2nd hand and the reason why there is not a review on my channel is that I needed some time to ride with them to evaluate if I like them or not and what I actually don't like.
Rackless is another experiment (expensive one though) but I hope it will minimise problems I had with backcountry although I can already see it will bring another...
As you say, it's evolution and I really wanted to test the setup before heading out for long time, I'm glad I did now I'll test the Rackless over winter and see if it works, lets see...
@@FARANDFURTHER Brilliant. Pls keep up your great reviews. They are much appreciated. I am going through options for a ride to the Road of Bones in July.
@@FARANDFURTHER Hello, thanks for the video. Please can you give me some detailed information what you don't like on the backcountry bags, because I was plannning to take them for longer rides.
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could you tell me how tall you are? i`m just starting motorcycling and tend to buy a tenere 700 later on. but i`m only 1,77 m.
I think he said in a different video that he was 168cm. Could be wrong though but check out his video where he tells you how to pick it up when you drop it. He states it there.
Yes I'm 168cm tall.
I'm sorry, I missed your height and weight? optimal for the Tenere 700?
Hi Andre, I'm 68-70kg depends on how many beers and 168cm. Optimal in terms of weight a bit vertically challenged in terms of height. :)
Have you lowered the bike for your height? On a previous video you mentioned and I’m the same height as you. Just not sure if it’ll be too tall
No I have not lowered the bike. Standard height, standard seat.
FAR&FURTHER thanks for the response.
Most welcome.
Good info. Thanks mate
No problem 👍
No centre stand? Why?
Hi Johanes, not real reason really. I didn't have center stand before on my Honda CB500X as I raised it and OEM was short and I got used to it. I'm using my trail stand (separate video) to do most of the work on the road and for other repairs and maintenance, there is always garage.
Any news about your headlight?
Good question! I've dropped bike numerous times now and the headlight started to work, then it stopped for a bit so I went out did some jumps and it works again.... how odd!
What no springs or suspension upgrades?
I've done this video quite long ago and at that time I didn't have suspension upgrades on the T7. Now I've 40k and the situation is different as I've replaced both front and rear suspension after finding the OEM limits on the MX track and 2x Dinaric rally.
sadly US galon is only 3.6 , standart galon is 4.54 gal
I'm pretty sure that I can squeeze (overfill) the Rotopax to somewhere around 4.5l, not saying it's designed to... ;)
do you know what the centre to centre measurement of the top bar clamp is?
Hi Steve, I don't know but I'm really happy to measure if you tell me exactly what you want to measure. Do I understand you want distance between centres of the forks at the top of the top clamp?
please measure the bolt centre from right to left it will be 100 or something MM
Will do tomorrow morning Steve and will report. What is the value good for if I may ask?
@@FARANDFURTHER I want to get a set of hand guards from HDB but i dont have my bike yet and he wants that measurement so he can make me a set
So from the centre of one fork top cap to other its 203mm +-2
so you think borders will be open in June?
Yes I hope the borders will open by the end of June or during July. We have rumors from locals who work in the airlines that the flights should resume 10th but I'd not bet on that one.
Is tne bike really that big or are you really that small?
I saw in another video he was 5'6 and came to this video to see if he installed the lower seat or the lowering link, which I guess he did not. Me also being 5'6, I'm happy to see other "short" riders on what is a somewhat tall bike. (35" seat height if I recall)
I'm that small ;)
Hi Chris, you're right I've not lowered anything on the bike. So far so good. She is tall bike for us shorter riders but it is manageable, of course low speed handling is a bit tricky and needs some muscle but in terms of riding it does feel like it fits well.
Also... lets not forget Gaston Rahier who was 164 and won Dakar ;)
How tall is this guy? Just trying to scale by eye
I’m 168cm and 75cm inseam.
@@FARANDFURTHER why do you think you need a stiffer spring?
Because I measured my static and rider sag and it is much higher with luggage than it should be no matter how I set the preload. This means the spring rate is wrong for my weight + load I usually have on the bike. If I ride without any luggage I can get it close but with a lot of preload and that is not good either.
@@FARANDFURTHER Good job! Weird that the OEM spring doesn't cover the weight of you and luggage which I recon is around 85kg.
We're waiting for impressions when you ride with the new spring, after setting the sag correctly. Don't forget to readjust rebound and compression.
Cheers!
Morocco just announced the extension of the lockdown so the impressions with new spring will have to wait. I'm now constantly working on tweaking the stock suspenstion and taking the measurements so when I have new spring I'll be able to have not only feelings but also some numbers.
I'm playing with the clickers yes, but it's long process as I change, ride same track few times take measurements and then move to other setting and so on...
I'm 68kg luggage is +- 35-40kg depending how much extra fuel and water and sag is wrong.
No.1 needed Tenere 700 accessory = *_Engine Protectors/Crash Bars._* WHY?
The Yamaha Tenere 700 is a very good bike _But_ it has a major fault or flaw:
- *_it is heavy_* for a dirt bike
- and it's weight is high making it top heavy
This issue is why you hear and/or see many riders of all levels laying down the bike or crashing it *_more_* than other adventure bikes.
As another RESULT of the TOP HEAVY WEIGHT the Tenere 700 is harder to pick up with many smaller men & many women not being able to pick it up.
I kind of think people are thinking about Tenere 700 as a "dirt bike"... there are no dirt bikes with weight 200+kg.
There is a video in which the guy measured the weight one is lifting with different bikes and T7 was not definitely the heaviest of the adventure bikes out there.
Yes, it is top heavy, but that's relative to what one compares it to...
Add up all the money to get to the standard features on a Ducati Multistrada 950S and the Ducati is cheaper and 100% better
I think it is entirely personal choice. How are you going to fit 21" wheel to the front and 18" to the rear of the Multistranda? 113hp is way too much for me and its slightly heavier. It's completely different bike, not something I'd like to take on my trips.
Nice job-From Seattle Washington
Thanks