I disagree with one thing with this video. The Firelands Portal should not be a rare, it should be epic. But I think Kripp is doing damage control. Easier to move it one rarity tier than two.
there's a symmetry thing, i think it's like two commons and a rare for each class in adventures, so just having a random epic would be a little strange
deamonyoshi876 Obviously they could do some rarity shifting. For example, move Babbling Book to common, Firelands Portal to Epic, and [the mage epic] to rare.
+si lafuyang ResidentSleeper "Alright, mage, I guess" ResidentSleeper "Haven't picked mage in a while, let's go mage" ResidentSleeper "Mage isn't that good, but alright" ResidentSleeper
Yesterday Kibler, when reviewing new expansion cards, passingly mentioned that "It might not be good in Standard, but Kripp [as an arena player] will be salty about Fireland Portal for years to come". Since then Kripp already made 2 vids where he spent lots of time complaining about the card...
That's not completely true, while it's true during Naxx and GvG they released retardedly op cards their design decisions have been pretty good since. They still seem to be unable to see op combos(Grim Patron Warrior) and put out some shitty mechanics(joust) but they don't really release op cards and now with Whispers they've released some really fun cards with decent stats. HOWEVER they are absolutely fucking clueless when it comes to rarity, it legitimately seems that they just fucking randomize rarity and it ruins arena. Really I don't even understand why rarity is a thing, all it does is fuck over new players and forces them to play zoo since control usually uses rarer cards.
Evangelina Edgeworth Ben Brode is simply programmed to never admit Blizzard did anything wrong, he HAS to pretend it's good or else he blue screens and they have to send him to maintenance.
I don't see why it's an insult either. It's a pretty neutral thing. The man has over 4 million subscribers. That's more than enough to assume that absolutely normal people watch Leafy and some of those people watch Hearthstone videos.
I have a question in regards to that. Is it possible to block channels? Because for some reason, although I've never been in any channel of that type, RUclips continues to shove suggestions for LeafyIsHere, Sargon of Akkad and I don't know what other fucktards. It's annoying. Is it because I watch Ethan?
Kripp reading without a script, talking fast and still maintaining an energetic and informative discussion video.. HOW DARE HE MAKE A SIMPLE SMALL MISTAKE !! Off with his head !
I just went 0-3 today with Paladin. 1 truesilver, 2 epics (both blood of the ancient one) and some pretty good cards overall and a shitload of 2 drops.
The worst part is, since this is an adventure, the rarity has no impact at all except for arena. If it was an expansion I could understand them wanting cards to be commons while others are rares for packs.
Actually you can. If an adventure has rotated out of standard, or you've already earned the cards by playing the adventure. Then you can craft/disenchant the cards. This was added around the same time as standard was introduced.
Doesn't really matter though. You just swap it with one of the rares and the dust value of the adventure/wing is exactly the same, you've just avoiding fucking up arena completely.
Yeah pyroblast is the most confusing card i have ever seen. Same with pit lord. Dealing 5 damage to my own face is too confusing for me to understand. Summoning a random 5 drop is much less confusing then those cards. Kappa
If they cared about arena they would made better algoritam for picking cards, for example they could make that you draft set amount of cards, lets say 1 legendary, 3 epics and 6 rare, you can get more than 3 epic cards,but with every run you can pick 3 epics,etc. That way arena would be more balanced, because some epics are good in arena and some are bad. Like this commenterino so Kripperino can see and notify Blizzarderino.#PogChamp
+Simple Jack and a Horse this would massively buff priest and hunter because they have very good epics (Cabal, Forbidden Shapong, Lightbomb, Call of the Wild, Steamwheedle Sniper)
+Aidan murphy Uhm... is that a bad thing? Because you sound like you think it's a bad thing, but I would actually quite enjoy Hunters and Priests becoming playable in Arena.
Thoughts of the HS devs: Just use the usual rarity algorithm and forget that this is part of an adventure! Babbling Book will be more useful in constructed =>more people want to have it in their collection =>more people are willing to enchant a rare Babbling Book than a rare Firelands Portal =>the percentage of dust spent increases slightly =>this way, players have slighty less dust =>more packs will be bo... oh wait a minute... ah nvm we already came this far =>what is arena?
I thought Kripp used to play world of warcraft. Blizzard is designing it. They can't stand it when mages aren't the best. If mages are even second best they will get buffed or whoever is at the top will be nerfed. If you don't believe me, look at literally any wow patch in the last 5 years. They just did it again nerfing warlocks and death knights to put fire mage back on top.
if you get wrecked by mages in WoW either play something else or be quiet. there's plenty that can destroy mages in WoW atm. Arms warr, basically any rouge, affli lock. calm yourself
It's weird, I can remember back in my WoW days, this urban legend was always a popular one. Glad to see it's still going strong. You gotta wonder though, every time something like this happens, if there isn't something to it.
Oh no, a Mage card that costs 7 mana and can completely swing the game and crush Arena decks in one go. I can't believe they printed a card like this oh wait Flamestrike already existed.
The wording in this comment looks like sarcasm, but what it's saying isn't blatantly false (quite the opposite, as compared to many other current 1 drops it looks default) so it shouldn't be sarcasm. I don't know what to believe in anymore ._.
+Isaac Michelsen Getting a random mage spell is much more broken compared to getting a random beast. Most beasts are terrible because of their tag. Most mage spells work with any deck save 1, Shatter. Play the 3 random mage spell tome a few times and you'll see why your argument is moot.
Nope, because people who buy packs and buy the adventures are the ones that make them money. The ONLY thing blizzard cares about is the Standard Format. Everything else is an afterthought or an idle distraction for players.
Ben Brode here! We are happy to announce we have finally solved an issue that has plagued Hearthstone since beta. Despite our best efforts with cards like Flamecannon and Ethereal Conjurer, Mage was still able to lose games in Arena. With the Old Gods we introduced Faceless Summoner, and yet mage's average arena winrate was still only 75%. With the introduction of Firelands Portal, we hope to finally make Mage a viable arena class.
Kripp mentioned on stream that it should have been a priest or shaman card, which is the camp I'm currently sitting in rather than just moving the rarity of a great spell for a class that already kicks way too much ass in arena.
I remember Kibler saying something to the effect of not waiting to hear Kripparrian complain about this card in arena. Glad to see you're ahead of the curve, Kripp.
The problem is its shit against aggro. Shaman won't give a shit. Hunter won't give a shit. Use it on his Highmane he gets doggies. Warrior won't give a shit. And with all these aggro classes you can be dead by turn 7, or in a bad enough position where using all your mana to deal 5 dmg to one minion and summon a minion that probably won't help you stay alive is not a good idea. Card is good, but it is too slow for the fast meta we've been in for about 2 years.
Tempo mage is the only net deck I play, and I ended up using it as a one of in my deck. It replaced ethereal peddler, and it has worked out really well.
Fireland's Portal is horrible for Arena, but I think Kripp is underestimating the Babbling Book's capability. He said the rarities should be reversed but in my opinion that would make Mages even more overpowered. A one mana 1,1 isn't far from where a one mana card is SUPPOSED to be and a random Mage spell is actually insane. Since Mage has so many good spells it's basically a Jeweled Scarab that costs one less mana and has a better discover effect. We should all be thankful that Babbling Book isn't Mage's common card.
He has a point, a card with that effect should put it as an Epic at least. Looking at the 5 drop cards, this card has a high chance to remove a mid-range card (or hit the face pretty hard) and has a 40% chance to drop a very useful 5 drop card. In my opinion the top 5 choices RNGesus will grant is: -Earth Elemental (7/8 Taunt) -Hallazeal the Ascended (spells heal the hero for the damage done) -Leeory Jenkins (6/2 Charge, battle cry not triggered) -Doomguard (5/7 Charge, battle cry not triggered), -Naga Seawitch (Who wants a 5 mana Pyroblast?). Honorable mentions are: -Psych-o-tron -Grim Patron -Mukla's Champion -Kvaldir Raider -Abomination.
I've looked it over and for purposes of Arena (where it's Wild) about 1/3 of the minions this can give are shit, 1/3 are decent/situational, and 1/3 are good. The "decent" category included minions with at least 9 stats or minions that, if you got from 9 mana on, would be better with a ping. So overall, not only is this basically a Fireball, there's a 2/3 chance it'll give you a net positive board presence...and it's a Common. Seriously, whoever is in charge of figuring rarities for cards at Blizzard gives 0 fucks about Arena.
Because if they ever discount any card pack, players will be saving gold for a future discount and not buying packs, which is bad for blizzard and the meta
Watching your reviews and rants of cards and generally watching your videos of you addressing the the viewer like in this video, is as good as and I class it to be a Ted Talk.
I also don't understand why it's common because usually commons are the most simple cards like fireball which is only dmg or basic 3/2 2 drops while cards with multiple or complicated effects are epics like bane of doom which is also deal dmg + summon
bane of doom and firelands portal basically achieve the same thing and theres rng involved in both cards. how can justify firelands portal's effect being less simplistic than servant of yogg saron?.
In fairness, Firebat and a couple other pros calculated the average 5 drop and came up with the conclusion that the average 5 drop is about a 3/4 and has a worth of 4 mana but the fact that it hits a pretty significant break point for damage and on average will give you something equal to spider tank in terms of quality is nuts.
lmao so true. I find it fnny that trump plays heavy control and N'zoth pally etc with 30min games yet calls 90% of cards too slow. So good. love me some frump
Stormwind Portal. 5 mana. Summon Varian Wrynn who triggers his battlecry. Darnassus Portal. 2 mana. Fill your board with random Ancients and Wisps. Ironforge Portal. 8 mana. Fill your board with random Dwarves. Orgrimmar portal. 1 mana. Overload 10. Deal 20 damage randomly. Summon a random Horde leader. Dalaran portal. 7 mana. Summon Rhonin who triggers and casts his deathrattle. Shattrath portal. 3 mana. All minions become immune. Kripparian portal. 11 mana. Combo. Concede the game.
If you'll read into the announcement, you'll see that there will be more portal cards in this expansion. Probably other classes will get smaller versions of this which is arguably better. "Portals Everywhere: This party is so intense, it’s warping the very fabric of space and time to bring in more guests! Use the new portal spell cards to unleash the magic and summon random minions to the field."
The problem with Hearthstone is that the Dev team doesnt listen to its fans or competitive players. Competitive players hate insanely good RNG cards that are necessary to play, and yet they keep printing cards like this. There are so many cool ways to make unique and new card designs, yet we get cards with boring deathrattles like Possessed Villager. Blizzard should learn from the Halo 5 Dev team who hired a Pro team to help create their game.
I lost any hope for this to change when they said "RNG is good because it makes every game unique. Even very bad RNG because it makes it memorable". They didn't said that verbatim but that was the gist of it. Getting rekt by a random flame/knife 50% of the time doesn't really feel unique but whatever.
What Kripp says about how mage is good for average players is on point! I'm not a good Hearthstone player as I lack cards because I haven't spent a single pound on it. Mage however, as he says, gives the player really good common cards that can boost a F2Per like me to at least some level.
I'd love to see Ben Brode arguing why it was a good addition. I imagine something like: "We want to make arena accessible to new players. So, we always try to ensure that Mage always wins."
This kind of "Bad in constructed reasonable in limited" removal card is good for limited at common, the problem is that only mage is getting arena removal rather than every class getting a card comparable to flamelance or firelands portal at common every large expansion.
So far firelands portal has been amazing for me in constructed as a spell control mage. It gives you both board stabilization as well as allowing you to turn the corner and put pressure on them. Excellent card!
I basically agree with everything you say, but before saying that it MUST be changed I'd like to see the other portals and how they come out. Like what if there's a Priest spell portal that heals your side of the board and has another awesome effect, or something similar. Or a Druid portal that gives one minion Taunt and the rest of your minions Deathrattle: Summon a random 1 or 2 drop. Obviously those are pretty unlikely, but this portal could be to balance some other OP stuff coming out.
At some point, they have to make a remake of the cards rarity, because exactly what Kripp said, they have to remember that HS is a 2 mode game, Arena and Constructed, and they have been destroying arena for a while now. I completly agree with Kripp.
The real problem - and the same thing goes for Magic: The Gathering, as we can see from recent sets - is that when developers design a set that is supposed to serve 2 totally different audiences, they end up serving neither very well.
Funny if we keep comparing stuff. If we say for the sake of discussion a plain 5 damage spell is worth 5 mana. Mage get +1 damage for -1 mana (Fireball) and -target face +3 damage for +/- 0 mana (Flame Lance). Priest get +5 heal to face for +1 mana (Holy Fire). Druid get "draw a card" (Starfire) for +1 mana or choose 2 damage aoe for +/- 0 mana (Starfall). Shaman get "overload 2" for -2 mana (Lava burst). And now Mage get Summon random 5 cost minion for +2 mana. Keep in mind that all of these are rare except for 4. Can you guess which? I know in constructed this kind of balance itself out due to difference in minion qualities, other kinds of spells as well as how the cards interact with each other. But as Kripp said, in arena it's basically tempo with minions and removal spells that counts. And this doesn't even cover aoe where "spoiler alert" mage is strongest as well.
This isn't useless for constructed. It's a good 'filler' card because it can be used to finish someone off, to remove a lower cost minion, or to buy yourself time while preparing to finish the enemy with saved spells. I definitely wouldn't run more than one in a deck though.
Kripp was wrong in one thing - even now, 9 months after kharazan, fireland portal is actually fairly popular card in constructed mage decks. Ofc not at the level of fireball, but more than for example, mirror entity.
I would like to see the following fixes to Priest cards: Shadowform needs to do 1 more damage, 3 then 4 for the second cast, it needs to be worded so that it could increase its damage with more than 2 copies. next Holy Nova need to do 3 damage and healing. Velen needs to be untargetable and also dispell all secrets when cast in addition to what he currently does. Mass dispell needs to draw 2 cards. Holy fire needs to cost 5 mana. " shadow type spells needs to be free to cast when in shadowform. Priest needs core minions with spell power. Shadow word death and pain need to be more like wow, one a multi turn dot. and the other a damage nuke. mind control needs to be 6 mana. shadow madness needs to work on power 4 or less. essentially the core priest cards need tweaks.
I wonder if Arena would become better if they made spells draft separate from minion drafts, like say, you get quaranteed 7-10 spells on every arena run (much like in random brawls) and when you get to pick spell, the rarity of spell doesn't matter (in other words you get to pick between epics, rares and commons like say choice between pyroblast, polymorph and unstable portal) so that having common board clear wouldn't make that class any stronger than class with rare or epic board clear etc.
Id like to see split class cards. For Example: a mage+warlock damage spell, paladin+priest heal spell or minion, druid+shaman card draw in some form and a rogue+warrior+hunter weapon. (thats all 9 classes used :P). (I also tried making some different pairs, they cuold be, rogue+hunter burst damage, shaman+mage aoe, priest+warlock somekinda drain life thing and for the 3 class card, a paladin+druid+warrior card that gives/uses/does something with armour. These are just my ideas, and raw ideas, but something like that could be nice, the split cards could even a major theme for some expansion in the future :)
I think they should make arena drafts have certain guarantees, such as 1 board clear guaranteed in each draft, 3 weapons (for classes with weapons), or 7 spells (or any combination of these)
After the announcement of Firelands Portal, I was sure Blizzard is trying to balance things out in arena. So, inb4 they announce a 1 mana 30/30 charge, that has the effect of always drawing it on turn 1, with the battlecry: give your opponent's face taunt (to save you from those pesky Tournament Atendees). No, wait, it should be a 35/30 since rogues could go prep into burgle into prep into shield block to counter it, making the card unplayable in warrior, if it were neutral. But I think that won't be necessary, since they will obviously make it a mage neutral. It's Blizzard's way of balancing things out. [/irony] FUCK YOU BLIZZARD, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF MAGES IN ARENA. YOU NAILED IT, KRIPP
The expansion is all about Medivh's party and all that shit, right? well, him and Jaina are gonna have alot of fun together after that party, I'm sure that's why the expansion has this theme. Makes me even question if Blizzard is trolling us right now with that BULLSHIT CARD and afterwards they'll tell us that the card will be rare or epic
You ask why they fuck up arena Krip? The answer is simple. Good runs means more rewards which means more free cards. The less players that can go infinite, the more money people will have to spend to complete their collection. Why would they make it so many players could go infinite by balancing arena and making it fair? That just means less $$$.
I have to agree with you on this one. Mage didn't need another common removal spell for arena and this one is better then most since like you said, it is a two for one. Worse case scenario, it's a win more card. Best case, it completely turns the game around for mage to win, not like it needs any help in doing so.
Damn, it must have been a while since Kripp got his last Blizzard gig paycheque, I haven't seen him go off on them like this since the D3 days. Absolutely spot on though.
Kripparian, you are brilliant, thanks again for your thoughts. I am going to be at Blizzcon this year. I will demand that Ben Brode take your ideas seriously.
The only reason i could actually see to make it a common card would be because it would be easier for players to get in packs. But considering this is an adventure card, there is actually no reason to not switch the rarity of those cards
Well looks like you were 100% wrong on the constructed play. It's the go to 7 drop now in Tempo mage in pace of flamestrike and it's winning them games more consistently.
I mean there isn't even a reason for it to be common, you just get it in the opening of Karazhan, there is no random element in obtaining that card, you could make it rare, it wouldn't change anything aside from the arena
the problem Blizzard doesn't have the same 'veteran'-esque card design team of MTG; this was a pretty similar problem for MTG early on, and HS appears to be plagued with the same issues
Now don't get me wrong, I agree with what you're saying. However, I think this card entirely depends on what the other "portal" cards that are hinted at in the new expansion are
So weird theory here about rarity. The portal isn't going to be played much in standard so with it being common it's cheaper to make golden where as babbling book might be an auto include in every mage deck so being a rare it's more expensive to be golden thus asking for more dust and making you more likely to spend money to buy packs for extra dust
In M:TG wizards have said that the rarity system has been adjusted to be completely for balance in limited formats (arena). Why can't Blizzard follow suit?
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Wow. Normally I"m stuck between somewhere like "wow kripp nailed it" and "wow kripp's a whiny bitch". But this one is just flat out Kripp nailed it.
Yes.
I disagree with one thing with this video. The Firelands Portal should not be a rare, it should be epic. But I think Kripp is doing damage control. Easier to move it one rarity tier than two.
there's a symmetry thing, i think it's like two commons and a rare for each class in adventures, so just having a random epic would be a little strange
deamonyoshi876 Obviously they could do some rarity shifting. For example, move Babbling Book to common, Firelands Portal to Epic, and [the mage epic] to rare.
BrianDeBrain95 i don't think there've been class epics in previous adventures, so there probably isn't a mage epic
They put it in there to stop Kripp's 12-0 runs.
They had to stop him! He was going rogue!!
Kristan O. Now he will go full mage.
Krippered
+si lafuyang ResidentSleeper "Alright, mage, I guess" ResidentSleeper "Haven't picked mage in a while, let's go mage" ResidentSleeper "Mage isn't that good, but alright" ResidentSleeper
Krippled.
Yesterday Kibler, when reviewing new expansion cards, passingly mentioned that "It might not be good in Standard, but Kripp [as an arena player] will be salty about Fireland Portal for years to come".
Since then Kripp already made 2 vids where he spent lots of time complaining about the card...
It is only the beginning. Imagine the sweet sweet loses from a top deck fireland portal and the videos to follow. Mmmmm i can taste the rage already
+Legendarypine topdeck firelands portal > leeroy Jenkins
Lol
You understand nobody is saying Kripp is wrong here right? People are just having fun at the fact that Kibbler was right.
Even Dragons know.
If the human body is 75% water, how can you be 100% salt?
The water is from the Dead Sea.
+Robin Shen laughed
Kripp's not human confirmed.
kripp = salt golem
But the average human body is composed of 60% waterino.
Nothing to understand, HS devs have no idea what they are doing. It has been like that for 3 years now
That's not completely true, while it's true during Naxx and GvG they released retardedly op cards their design decisions have been pretty good since. They still seem to be unable to see op combos(Grim Patron Warrior) and put out some shitty mechanics(joust) but they don't really release op cards and now with Whispers they've released some really fun cards with decent stats.
HOWEVER they are absolutely fucking clueless when it comes to rarity, it legitimately seems that they just fucking randomize rarity and it ruins arena. Really I don't even understand why rarity is a thing, all it does is fuck over new players and forces them to play zoo since control usually uses rarer cards.
No non-youtuber would buy packs if all cards were 50 dust.
Let's remember Ben Brode actually thinks that Warsong Commander is a really good card...
The NEW one...
Evangelina Edgeworth
Ben Brode is simply programmed to never admit Blizzard did anything wrong, he HAS to pretend it's good or else he blue screens and they have to send him to maintenance.
That's why i'm switching to Elder Scrolls Legends.
Blizzard should just hire Kripp already.
yeah so we'd get a boring ass expansions and kill this game
+Peanut "Weeb" Jams Are you talking about Blackrock Mountain?
+Peanut “Weeb” Jams If by boring you mean with actual useful cards then, yeah, they would be boring.
If by boring you mean balancing underused cards to expand the variety in the game, sure.
yea hire some nerd with no mentionable abilities except bitchin and moanin lmao what a catch!
Nice Leafy title Kripp. Way to fuck with the algorithms.
HISSSSSS
HISSSSSS
Hisses
Who?
THE MOST RIDICULOUSLY INSANE CARD IN ALL OF HISTORY (Firelands Portal rant)
Not enough Wisps.
Sparkle*
O MY GOD WISP PLEASE FILL ME WITH YOUR SWEET WISP SPARLES I NEED IT INSIDE OF ME
+proface what the hell
+proface Save some 4 me
Your profile pic is not called a wisp but a krisp
4:20 can't wait to walk in the blazelands
Say something is pretty good if you're held hostage kripp.
That's a spicy meme.
He's moving his head allot, must be kidnapped. Blink in morse code Kripp we'll find you.
He eyes blinks is saying sos #savekrip
If you listen closely at 11:12 you can hear him whisper "help me"
triggered vegan LUL
Nossa você por aqui.
Hue hue hue , Brazil ? Gibe me money ! Hue hue hue hue
SpeedfanMr
gibe monei plox
+Detonex br br hue
150th like... ur velkam!!
If Blizzard could listen to the pro players, damn it would be awesome
kripp isnt a pro player, hes a filthy casual
Tyler Huh He's at least more decent than a little bitch like you :P
***** Sure, but Blizzard makes a lot of design mistakes like this one.
i will give this a lulz
Kripp aint a pro player he's just an arena youtuber
The only thing I learned from this is that a large portion of Kripp's audience also seems to like Leafy. That's not a compliment.
The majority of them are making fun of Leafy.
This fine memer, for instance.
Leedark3 out to destroy careers and fuck bitches
I don't see why it's an insult either. It's a pretty neutral thing.
The man has over 4 million subscribers. That's more than enough to assume that absolutely normal people watch Leafy and some of those people watch Hearthstone videos.
I have a question in regards to that. Is it possible to block channels? Because for some reason, although I've never been in any channel of that type, RUclips continues to shove suggestions for LeafyIsHere, Sargon of Akkad and I don't know what other fucktards. It's annoying. Is it because I watch Ethan?
5:51 'Shadow word death: kill a minion over 5 health'' :s
Shadow word: Kripp*
Priest is so shit, not even kripp remembers what their cards do, because you never see them played anymore.
Wait.. There's a priest class in HS??? PogChamp
Kripp reading without a script, talking fast and still maintaining an energetic and informative discussion video.. HOW DARE HE MAKE A SIMPLE SMALL MISTAKE !! Off with his head !
+Adam Wojas Shadow Word: Never Lucky
i can see you in the next dramaalert
Use code KRIPP for 50% off salt!
Natalie Schneider
I don't think kripp needs more salt :D
It's ridiculous how much favoritism is shown to Mage in general in this game. All the best spells, many of the best minions.
They got shit legendaries tho so arena is balanced. Kappa
Do you require my assistance?
also they have 3 heros for mage
I wonder if Ben Brode will take notice of this video and comment on it.
It would be nice.
"We can't make firelands portal a rare. The technology just isn't there"
+Isawa De La Pradera People might get confused just like adding more deck slots. To this day I dunno how to use my tenth and eleventh slots. :'(
They added new deck slots? I don't... How though? I'm very confused.
"Source 2 will fix this"
Let's be honest, Arena has become unplayable since TGT. I stopped caring about that gamemode a long time ago.
Almost as horrible as the 2014 Arena Hunter ( 2 mana Buzzard/Unleash the Hounds ) .
I just went 0-3 today with Paladin. 1 truesilver, 2 epics (both blood of the ancient one) and some pretty good cards overall and a shitload of 2 drops.
because you suck
+Shlomo Goldbergsteinowitz and how the fuck do you know that? There no skill needed in hearthstone. I just hot unlucky:(
Just because you suck doesn't make it unplayable.
The worst part is, since this is an adventure, the rarity has no impact at all except for arena. If it was an expansion I could understand them wanting cards to be commons while others are rares for packs.
Well you can disenchant cards so you get more dust maybe that's why
Actually you can. If an adventure has rotated out of standard, or you've already earned the cards by playing the adventure. Then you can craft/disenchant the cards. This was added around the same time as standard was introduced.
Doesn't really matter though. You just swap it with one of the rares and the dust value of the adventure/wing is exactly the same, you've just avoiding fucking up arena completely.
+MrTheoneandonly just like naga sea witch was an epic in loe
Yeah pyroblast is the most confusing card i have ever seen. Same with pit lord. Dealing 5 damage to my own face is too confusing for me to understand. Summoning a random 5 drop is much less confusing then those cards. Kappa
The title should have been in all caps
THE FIRELANDS PORTAL RANT
Get it?
Who?
GONE SEXUAL
Leafy i think
+erik karlsson who?
Who?
If they cared about arena they would made better algoritam for picking cards, for example they could make that you draft set amount of cards, lets say 1 legendary, 3 epics and 6 rare, you can get more than 3 epic cards,but with every run you can pick 3 epics,etc. That way arena would be more balanced, because some epics are good in arena and some are bad. Like this commenterino so Kripperino can see and notify Blizzarderino.#PogChamp
It already does that, a certain number of your cards are always rare and I disagree with everyone getting a legendary.
+Kyrator88 Maybe not legendaries, but epics for sure.
+Simple Jack and a Horse no most epics are bad in arena
+Simple Jack and a Horse this would massively buff priest and hunter because they have very good epics (Cabal, Forbidden Shapong, Lightbomb, Call of the Wild, Steamwheedle Sniper)
+Aidan murphy Uhm... is that a bad thing? Because you sound like you think it's a bad thing, but I would actually quite enjoy Hunters and Priests becoming playable in Arena.
Thoughts of the HS devs:
Just use the usual rarity algorithm and forget that this is part of an adventure!
Babbling Book will be more useful in constructed
=>more people want to have it in their collection
=>more people are willing to enchant a rare Babbling Book than a rare Firelands Portal
=>the percentage of dust spent increases slightly
=>this way, players have slighty less dust
=>more packs will be bo... oh wait a minute... ah nvm we already came this far
=>what is arena?
The worst part is that this could actually be true.
While normally that is true, these cards are from a hearthstone adventure so there are no packs to be bought
JD94 You know, adventures can be bought too, right?
HERE COMES'DA MONEY!
I meant adventure when I wrote expansion, see my 2nd to last point :P edited for clarity
+JD94 thatsthejoke.gif
I thought Kripp used to play world of warcraft.
Blizzard is designing it. They can't stand it when mages aren't the best. If mages are even second best they will get buffed or whoever is at the top will be nerfed. If you don't believe me, look at literally any wow patch in the last 5 years.
They just did it again nerfing warlocks and death knights to put fire mage back on top.
God I hate fire mage. and they just nerfed the only counters
if you get wrecked by mages in WoW either play something else or be quiet. there's plenty that can destroy mages in WoW atm. Arms warr, basically any rouge, affli lock. calm yourself
It's weird, I can remember back in my WoW days, this urban legend was always a popular one. Glad to see it's still going strong. You gotta wonder though, every time something like this happens, if there isn't something to it.
Minecraftwizard476 true. i main fury but i guess i could try arms again
Demo Warlocks are still pretty damn insane dude
Oh no, a Mage card that costs 7 mana and can completely swing the game and crush Arena decks in one go. I can't believe they printed a card like this oh wait Flamestrike already existed.
but, the thing is is that its fucking common
+Damien Weyrauch Flamestrike is also in the common slot...
+Damien Weyrauch Yeah, just like flamestrike
Also the problem is that exactly Mage got it
Yes, and if you watched the video, he mentioned that Mage already has game swinging cards in the common slot. That was his issue.
Is this the new KripparianIsHere channel where we get dank rants?
I saw the title and thought "Wow, Kibler was right on the money". After watching this, I thought "And so is Kripp.".
1 mana 1/1 get a card? Seems balanced
like 2 mana 1/1 draw a card?
seems a lot like webspinner actualy.
The wording in this comment looks like sarcasm, but what it's saying isn't blatantly false (quite the opposite, as compared to many other current 1 drops it looks default) so it shouldn't be sarcasm. I don't know what to believe in anymore ._.
all babbling books tavern brawl incoming... :l gonna be lame as shit
+Isaac Michelsen
Getting a random mage spell is much more broken compared to getting a random beast. Most beasts are terrible because of their tag. Most mage spells work with any deck save 1, Shatter. Play the 3 random mage spell tome a few times and you'll see why your argument is moot.
Even has potential for disgusting burst damage if leeroy is summoned.
I hate urgles, why is it your profile pic... It is only there to make events a slight bit more annoying.
lol everyone who plays rotmg already has a client with anti armor break on
They are the most annoying enemies in realm, I just used this image for a joke. Have you read the writing on the image? :D
It would be like pre-nerf pyroblast except better
??? Leroy is 6 mana
Do they even playtest cards for arena? I highly doubt it!
Nope, because people who buy packs and buy the adventures are the ones that make them money. The ONLY thing blizzard cares about is the Standard Format. Everything else is an afterthought or an idle distraction for players.
Uhh... people buy arena keys all the fucking time.
They most likely barely playtest period
+K4inan Why would you even bother buying arena keys lmao
Bradley Chen i'm a noob :(
It finally happened. Kripp broke
Bane of doom is EPIC with the same fucking mechanic. Nice classifications blizzard.
Exactly.
3 more damage for 2 more mana and the minion is better overall being 5 mana
bane of doom has to kill to summon this doesn't
damn that definitely makes it complicated enough to warrant epic status
Bane of Doom has to kill the target though, and there is like three good demons you can get from it.
Ben Brode here! We are happy to announce we have finally solved an issue that has plagued Hearthstone since beta. Despite our best efforts with cards like Flamecannon and Ethereal Conjurer, Mage was still able to lose games in Arena. With the Old Gods we introduced Faceless Summoner, and yet mage's average arena winrate was still only 75%. With the introduction of Firelands Portal, we hope to finally make Mage a viable arena class.
u know kripp is angry when he drops the F bomb in a youtube video (non-gameplay/stream) O___O
True story Kripp. Sometimes the devs need a little help like this and I hope they listen.
Would have been fine as a Warlock card, thematically it could fit easily as well.
Giving warlock damage from hand is a bad idea, especially if it summons minions. Look at implosion.
Kripp mentioned on stream that it should have been a priest or shaman card, which is the camp I'm currently sitting in rather than just moving the rarity of a great spell for a class that already kicks way too much ass in arena.
warlocks dont have portals in wow lol
+Constantine III i personally think this card should have been given to priest , not shaman and not to any other class but priest
İbrahim Mouselli I'm on board with that.
I remember Kibler saying something to the effect of not waiting to hear Kripparrian complain about this card in arena.
Glad to see you're ahead of the curve, Kripp.
Please try Elder Scrolls Legends, and give your thoughts on it!
I think Kripp is selling the card short in constructed.
In today's (and yesterday's and probably tomorrow's) aggro meta, 7 mana is far too much for a single-target removal.
The problem is its shit against aggro. Shaman won't give a shit. Hunter won't give a shit. Use it on his Highmane he gets doggies. Warrior won't give a shit. And with all these aggro classes you can be dead by turn 7, or in a bad enough position where using all your mana to deal 5 dmg to one minion and summon a minion that probably won't help you stay alive is not a good idea. Card is good, but it is too slow for the fast meta we've been in for about 2 years.
Nathan Ritscherle Yes, it can be good in a slow control deck but control decks are completely inferior to aggro decks at the moment.
Tempo mage is the only net deck I play, and I ended up using it as a one of in my deck. It replaced ethereal peddler, and it has worked out really well.
Fireland's Portal is horrible for Arena, but I think Kripp is underestimating the Babbling Book's capability.
He said the rarities should be reversed but in my opinion that would make Mages even more overpowered. A one mana 1,1 isn't far from where a one mana card is SUPPOSED to be and a random Mage spell is actually insane. Since Mage has so many good spells it's basically a Jeweled Scarab that costs one less mana and has a better discover effect.
We should all be thankful that Babbling Book isn't Mage's common card.
If all classes get a portal like this, i bet priest will get some sort of bad healing.
He has a point, a card with that effect should put it as an Epic at least. Looking at the 5 drop cards, this card has a high chance to remove a mid-range card (or hit the face pretty hard) and has a 40% chance to drop a very useful 5 drop card. In my opinion the top 5 choices RNGesus will grant is:
-Earth Elemental (7/8 Taunt)
-Hallazeal the Ascended (spells heal the hero for the damage done)
-Leeory Jenkins (6/2 Charge, battle cry not triggered)
-Doomguard (5/7 Charge, battle cry not triggered),
-Naga Seawitch (Who wants a 5 mana Pyroblast?).
Honorable mentions are:
-Psych-o-tron
-Grim Patron
-Mukla's Champion
-Kvaldir Raider
-Abomination.
THE MOST EPIC HEARTHSTONE RANT EVER OF ALL TIME (SALT OVERLOAD) (ANGRY GAMER) (MUST WATCH) (CANNOT BE UNSEEN)(COMPLETELY EPIC)(GONE BABYRAGE)
I mean Kripp is right, but there are supposed to be like 5 total portal cards, could we hope that these will help with the balance?
I've looked it over and for purposes of Arena (where it's Wild) about 1/3 of the minions this can give are shit, 1/3 are decent/situational, and 1/3 are good. The "decent" category included minions with at least 9 stats or minions that, if you got from 9 mana on, would be better with a ping.
So overall, not only is this basically a Fireball, there's a 2/3 chance it'll give you a net positive board presence...and it's a Common. Seriously, whoever is in charge of figuring rarities for cards at Blizzard gives 0 fucks about Arena.
These types of discussion videos are usually better than your other non discussion videos.
Kripp I want to know, after 3+ years why do classic packs cost full price?
yeah if anything the classic packs are the most valuable since they will always be in the standard format so they "last forever".
Because if they ever discount any card pack, players will be saving gold for a future discount and not buying packs, which is bad for blizzard and the meta
Watching your reviews and rants of cards and generally watching your videos of you addressing the the viewer like in this video, is as good as and I class it to be a Ted Talk.
Arena has become a game if you are bad at it you pay 150 gold for a pack.
+5 dust
Well in arena for a decent player he will just need HearthArena and then he can go have 5 win average ^^
+Minetoutong in EU getting 3-3 is like 8-3 in NA. I wish I could play arena in NA
Truesilverino Kripperino I play on EU ^^
+Truesilverino Kripperino LUL EU TRIGGERED.
I also don't understand why it's common because usually commons are the most simple cards like fireball which is only dmg or basic 3/2 2 drops while cards with multiple or complicated effects are epics like bane of doom which is also deal dmg + summon
Fireball is basic
+CobaltStar_ he said that you dense fuck
bane of doom and firelands portal basically achieve the same thing and theres rng involved in both cards. how can justify firelands portal's effect being less simplistic than servant of yogg saron?.
Blizzard should hire Kripp and make Hearthstone great again!
that vegan prock kripp is supposed to love animals yet he never takes me outside
Hearthstone? Balance? Lol, sorry wrong dimension.
It's because they don't give a fuck about arena xD
In fairness, Firebat and a couple other pros calculated the average 5 drop and came up with the conclusion that the average 5 drop is about a 3/4 and has a worth of 4 mana but the fact that it hits a pretty significant break point for damage and on average will give you something equal to spider tank in terms of quality is nuts.
4:46 kripp turns into trump
lmao so true. I find it fnny that trump plays heavy control and N'zoth pally etc with 30min games yet calls 90% of cards too slow. So good. love me some frump
In Arena, cards can't be too slow. In constructed, cards can't be too Fair. Every class needs its own unfair cards. You know the drill.
Stormwind Portal. 5 mana. Summon Varian Wrynn who triggers his battlecry.
Darnassus Portal. 2 mana. Fill your board with random Ancients and Wisps.
Ironforge Portal. 8 mana. Fill your board with random Dwarves.
Orgrimmar portal. 1 mana. Overload 10. Deal 20 damage randomly. Summon a random Horde leader.
Dalaran portal. 7 mana. Summon Rhonin who triggers and casts his deathrattle.
Shattrath portal. 3 mana. All minions become immune.
Kripparian portal. 11 mana. Combo. Concede the game.
I got my first 12 wins in Arena last night! Thank you Kripp for all your insight and help :)
Absolutely agree. I miss the Vanilla-Naxx-GVG days. You had spells back then, games went back and forth. Want that.
Firelands portal is a free card for the expansion and it's a common card. The answer is Blizzard doesn't like giving out free dust.
If you'll read into the announcement, you'll see that there will be more portal cards in this expansion. Probably other classes will get smaller versions of this which is arguably better.
"Portals Everywhere: This party is so intense, it’s warping the very fabric of space and time to bring in more guests! Use the new portal spell cards to unleash the magic and summon random minions to the field."
The problem with Hearthstone is that the Dev team doesnt listen to its fans or competitive players. Competitive players hate insanely good RNG cards that are necessary to play, and yet they keep printing cards like this. There are so many cool ways to make unique and new card designs, yet we get cards with boring deathrattles like Possessed Villager. Blizzard should learn from the Halo 5 Dev team who hired a Pro team to help create their game.
it's true, but blizz HS team hired a pro player once, I forgot his name though
I lost any hope for this to change when they said "RNG is good because it makes every game unique. Even very bad RNG because it makes it memorable". They didn't said that verbatim but that was the gist of it.
Getting rekt by a random flame/knife 50% of the time doesn't really feel unique but whatever.
Yautah true, thats why there's plenty of room for a better card game, I wait for Gwent and will check elder scrolls: legends
What Kripp says about how mage is good for average players is on point! I'm not a good Hearthstone player as I lack cards because I haven't spent a single pound on it. Mage however, as he says, gives the player really good common cards that can boost a F2Per like me to at least some level.
I'd love to see Ben Brode arguing why it was a good addition.
I imagine something like:
"We want to make arena accessible to new players. So, we always try to ensure that Mage always wins."
Probably Kripp's most important video. So spot on.
Classic Blizzard game balance. Spot on with the WoW reference, Kripp.
This kind of "Bad in constructed reasonable in limited" removal card is good for limited at common, the problem is that only mage is getting arena removal rather than every class getting a card comparable to flamelance or firelands portal at common every large expansion.
So far firelands portal has been amazing for me in constructed as a spell control mage. It gives you both board stabilization as well as allowing you to turn the corner and put pressure on them. Excellent card!
I'm actually more shocked at Babbling Book not being common than Firelands Pirtal being common. It would make perfect sense to switch their rarities.
You know, it's refreshing to see someone so passionate about something. I will talk to some of the devs. See what I can do.
I basically agree with everything you say, but before saying that it MUST be changed I'd like to see the other portals and how they come out.
Like what if there's a Priest spell portal that heals your side of the board and has another awesome effect, or something similar. Or a Druid portal that gives one minion Taunt and the rest of your minions Deathrattle: Summon a random 1 or 2 drop.
Obviously those are pretty unlikely, but this portal could be to balance some other OP stuff coming out.
At some point, they have to make a remake of the cards rarity, because exactly what Kripp said, they have to remember that HS is a 2 mode game, Arena and Constructed, and they have been destroying arena for a while now. I completly agree with Kripp.
The real problem - and the same thing goes for Magic: The Gathering, as we can see from recent sets - is that when developers design a set that is supposed to serve 2 totally different audiences, they end up serving neither very well.
Funny if we keep comparing stuff. If we say for the sake of discussion a plain 5 damage spell is worth 5 mana. Mage get +1 damage for -1 mana (Fireball) and -target face +3 damage for +/- 0 mana (Flame Lance). Priest get +5 heal to face for +1 mana (Holy Fire). Druid get "draw a card" (Starfire) for +1 mana or choose 2 damage aoe for +/- 0 mana (Starfall). Shaman get "overload 2" for -2 mana (Lava burst). And now Mage get Summon random 5 cost minion for +2 mana. Keep in mind that all of these are rare except for 4. Can you guess which?
I know in constructed this kind of balance itself out due to difference in minion qualities, other kinds of spells as well as how the cards interact with each other. But as Kripp said, in arena it's basically tempo with minions and removal spells that counts.
And this doesn't even cover aoe where "spoiler alert" mage is strongest as well.
The amount of good 5drop minions(statwise and/or effect wise) is insane.
This isn't useless for constructed. It's a good 'filler' card because it can be used to finish someone off, to remove a lower cost minion, or to buy yourself time while preparing to finish the enemy with saved spells. I definitely wouldn't run more than one in a deck though.
Kripp was wrong in one thing - even now, 9 months after kharazan, fireland portal is actually fairly popular card in constructed mage decks. Ofc not at the level of fireball, but more than for example, mirror entity.
I would like to see the following fixes to Priest cards:
Shadowform needs to do 1 more damage, 3 then 4 for the second cast, it needs to be worded so that it could increase its damage with more than 2 copies. next Holy Nova need to do 3 damage and healing. Velen needs to be untargetable and also dispell all secrets when cast in addition to what he currently does. Mass dispell needs to draw 2 cards. Holy fire needs to cost 5 mana. " shadow type spells needs to be free to cast when in shadowform. Priest needs core minions with spell power. Shadow word death and pain need to be more like wow, one a multi turn dot. and the other a damage nuke. mind control needs to be 6 mana. shadow madness needs to work on power 4 or less. essentially the core priest cards need tweaks.
I just hope the Firelands Portal will induce you to swear as much as Flamestrike, Fireball, Pyroblast, Polymorph, and many other spells.
I wonder if Arena would become better if they made spells draft separate from minion drafts, like say, you get quaranteed 7-10 spells on every arena run (much like in random brawls) and when you get to pick spell, the rarity of spell doesn't matter (in other words you get to pick between epics, rares and commons like say choice between pyroblast, polymorph and unstable portal) so that having common board clear wouldn't make that class any stronger than class with rare or epic board clear etc.
Id like to see split class cards. For Example: a mage+warlock damage spell, paladin+priest heal spell or minion, druid+shaman card draw in some form and a rogue+warrior+hunter weapon. (thats all 9 classes used :P). (I also tried making some different pairs, they cuold be, rogue+hunter burst damage, shaman+mage aoe, priest+warlock somekinda drain life thing and for the 3 class card, a paladin+druid+warrior card that gives/uses/does something with armour.
These are just my ideas, and raw ideas, but something like that could be nice, the split cards could even a major theme for some expansion in the future :)
I think they should make arena drafts have certain guarantees, such as 1 board clear guaranteed in each draft, 3 weapons (for classes with weapons), or 7 spells (or any combination of these)
After the announcement of Firelands Portal, I was sure Blizzard is trying to balance things out in arena. So, inb4 they announce a 1 mana 30/30 charge, that has the effect of always drawing it on turn 1, with the battlecry: give your opponent's face taunt (to save you from those pesky Tournament Atendees). No, wait, it should be a 35/30 since rogues could go prep into burgle into prep into shield block to counter it, making the card unplayable in warrior, if it were neutral. But I think that won't be necessary, since they will obviously make it a mage neutral. It's Blizzard's way of balancing things out. [/irony] FUCK YOU BLIZZARD, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF MAGES IN ARENA. YOU NAILED IT, KRIPP
The expansion is all about Medivh's party and all that shit, right? well, him and Jaina are gonna have alot of fun together after that party, I'm sure that's why the expansion has this theme. Makes me even question if Blizzard is trolling us right now with that BULLSHIT CARD and afterwards they'll tell us that the card will be rare or epic
You ask why they fuck up arena Krip? The answer is simple. Good runs means more rewards which means more free cards. The less players that can go infinite, the more money people will have to spend to complete their collection. Why would they make it so many players could go infinite by balancing arena and making it fair? That just means less $$$.
This rant was really funny for me. Thank you Kripp. You're 100% correct about what you said but I found your saltiness hilarious.
I have to agree with you on this one. Mage didn't need another common removal spell for arena and this one is better then most since like you said, it is a two for one. Worse case scenario, it's a win more card. Best case, it completely turns the game around for mage to win, not like it needs any help in doing so.
Damn, it must have been a while since Kripp got his last Blizzard gig paycheque, I haven't seen him go off on them like this since the D3 days. Absolutely spot on though.
Kripparian, you are brilliant, thanks again for your thoughts. I am going to be at Blizzcon this year. I will demand that Ben Brode take your ideas seriously.
Mage has been broken since day one,don't bother commenting or refuting me as ill just flamestrike your words off the comment section! LUL.
The only reason i could actually see to make it a common card would be because it would be easier for players to get in packs. But considering this is an adventure card, there is actually no reason to not switch the rarity of those cards
Well looks like you were 100% wrong on the constructed play. It's the go to 7 drop now in Tempo mage in pace of flamestrike and it's winning them games more consistently.
I mean there isn't even a reason for it to be common, you just get it in the opening of Karazhan, there is no random element in obtaining that card, you could make it rare, it wouldn't change anything aside from the arena
the problem Blizzard doesn't have the same 'veteran'-esque card design team of MTG; this was a pretty similar problem for MTG early on, and HS appears to be plagued with the same issues
Now don't get me wrong, I agree with what you're saying. However, I think this card entirely depends on what the other "portal" cards that are hinted at in the new expansion are
i like the part when he says 'instantly lose the game'
I know this is 2016 but 241 Blizzard devs disliked this.
So weird theory here about rarity.
The portal isn't going to be played much in standard so with it being common it's cheaper to make golden where as babbling book might be an auto include in every mage deck so being a rare it's more expensive to be golden thus asking for more dust and making you more likely to spend money to buy packs for extra dust
To think you had a video named "Blizzard Cares About Arena". Not so sure that's true now.
My question is why is Mage summoning things from Firelands instead of Shaman?
In M:TG wizards have said that the rarity system has been adjusted to be completely for balance in limited formats (arena). Why can't Blizzard follow suit?
i was thinking they'd balance it out by giving the other classes cards more broken than firelands portal but we've yet to see those released...