60d! I had 70d I think - RIP 2020 for wedding photographers as a season lol - this is pretty encouraging for the SL system, definitely have considered it for awhile.
I've owned an M10 and M10-P, which are also 24mp, and they're incredible, but the SL2-S files are just that much nicer. I sold the M10-P to get another SL2-S.
Thanks for the confidence boost. I have an SL2-S and love it, just saw the new SL3-S release and was like oooooo but this reminded me how viable my SL2-S still is
Fully true. IMO the only reason now to switch to a 3-S is simply a preference on packaging and form factor, because the images should be nearly identical.
Great video. Ignore the haters. I have never owned anything SL, thinking about getting one for events. So your video is perfectly timely for me. My main camera is canon r5, but I want a camera and photos that is a little different. Long time M and Q shooter.
Definitely worth trying out! My associate/second photographer uses an R5, so I edit R5 files a fair bit and while it might not be a tremendous difference in IQ to the average person, to me it's strikingly noticeable. I can always tell a 2-S file when mixed into the pile with the R5.
Just got the SL3-S, the AF is really a great step up compared to the SL2-S! Enjoying the added reliability and precision of the AF! Thanks for your review of the SL2-S!
thanks for your comment, i will share your video. anyway, due to capture one, i have sold all my x1dii and will switched sl system. i have also a iq4-150 & x-h2s user ^^
Dude, 24mp?!! Been shooting at least 42mp for over a decade, & 100mp for a few years. I have the incredible M11M, & despite problems, Love It!!! Now I could use a color body for the M lenses I have. Saw this deal, thought about it, ended up buying it. At first, I thought I would probably return it, and get an SL3. But the more I use it, I’m extremely impressed. Absolutely gonna keep it. It’s an amazing camera that delivers strangely unique files that are really beautiful. Simply not commensurate with other cameras because the sensor is very different. The fact that the SL3S will also be 24MP, makes this a very unique and incredible value proposition. And this camera has a position with my other larger MP cameras, but has become my favorite for wedding work. And since I have the M11 Monochrom, it’s awkward how amazing the BW file conversions are. Not really comparable to the monochrom, but very different from regular sensor cameras. It’s really interesting how this camera has an incredible unique value proposition. And I’m so happy with it, I’m even considering another, or simply an SL2 as a companion for a pro kit, that is strictly Leica. Otherwise, right now I use a couple of Sony‘s as work horses, and 2 Fuji GFX. Keeping it Leica and using small M lenses means my entire kit would be so much smaller.
Congrats! That's awesome. Yeah I've had so many different Leica models over the years but the one that remains is the SL2-S. It'll have to be a pretty incredible camera that dethrones that one for me someday.
Thank you for a very interesting video. I love my SL-2s and even now that the SL-3s has been announced, I see no compelling reason to upgrade. The two most relevant features for me are the phase detect AF and the tilting screen, both of which I can live without. I have never had a problem with the autofocus using the SL-2s for studio portraiture, event and landscape photography. I have found the eye detection to be excellent (almost infallible), and the in-body stabilisation to be amazing. For subject AF (animals, birds, trains, whatever), and fast-moving stuff (like my hyper-active sprocker spaniel) I have other cameras for that. The build quality of the Leica is top notch, the ergonomics are superb, and the interface and menu system is a joy to use. I shall not be selling my SL-2s any time soon, though I may eventually get an SL3 to go with it.
Agree. Great camera and surely worth it even in 2025. Only issue I faced is the extremely tight connection of the SL/M adapter (Leica made adapter and not aftermarket). Other than that the SL is a fantastic tool for making images.
Just picked up an SL2-S/35f2 kit at my local camera shop for under $4k. I can use it for 3 years and it’ll probably depreciate less than $1k. Now that the SL3-S was announced, I think you’re going to see used prices of the SL2-S go UP because very little has changed with respect to image output. Oh, and B&H is now sold out of all new SL2-S’s. What SD card would you recommend? Is the card you showed a V60 or V90?
Congrats! That's such a great move. The card I had in the video is just a V60 and it is more than adequate for the 2-S. I auditioned a V90 before buying a full dozen, and the V90 didn't make enough of a difference to justify the 2x+ price difference. I've been using these (amzn.to/3WnGX5N) since the summer and they've been such an improvement.
Hey thanks for the video. Was wondering the same thing as you can get good deals on them right now. I tend to stick with Leica rangefinders but would like to try one
Thanks for the video. Can I ask how you have found reliability? Have you needed any tech support from Leica in your time of ownership? You have 4 so I am assuming you are hedging you bets 😅
Great question, I might actually make a dedicated video about this, but basically yes, they've been bulletproof EXCEPT, one of them is with Leica right now because of the infamous shutter lock up issue. They replaced the shutter assembly and coincidentally emailed me today to tell me it's done! Totally out of warranty cost was $360. This body BY FAR was the most used though, it must have something like half a million shutter actuations on it, so the fact that it lasted this long at all was pretty remarkable.
My 60mp raws are over 100mb each. Storage is too expensive and no one needs that much detail on their face. Makes work flow harder overall. 24mp is perfect.
Great vid, thanks. Can I ask why did you move from Canon to Leica? I currently have the Canon 5D4 and its been a stalwart however I am look ing at the Leica SL2s. Do you have any side by side files from both? Thanks
@ Thanks for this, great blog, I’m going to have a read through the other articles later too (looking at MacBooks at the moment). Can I ask what your opinion on image quality/colour science is between the 2 systems? Thanks
For so many reasons. The Leica M8/M9, for example, have sensor corrosion issues the older they get. Old M6s have issues with circuit boards dying and the light meter going out as a result. My wife has an OG Canon Rebel, and it's not easy finding SD cards anymore that work with that camera because it can't accept newer cards. Point being, as the tide of tech and time continues to move forward, a lot of cameras get left behind either because of physical failures, or tech becoming unsupported as years click by.
The camera itself doesn't become bad, necessarily, but the question is whether the camera is good value/utility compared with current offerings. The SL2S is still very competitive in terms of image quality, video quality, and features.
Hey the prices have dropped too. Can get an sl 2 or sl2s now and some mint second hand ones as people move to sl3 for better deals now. Sometimes the changes might not be that important for some people and they can get a deal. Finding out what people who use them think is useful. Certainly is for me. 👍🏻
@@hellobrandonscottyes it is true. I have shot ISO 12,800 with medium format Hasselblad and the files are completely useable. It really depends on the sensor.
Genuinely curious - why do you watch them, let alone comment on them if you don't like them? Totally honest question, not at all offended by your criticism, just curious.
60d! I had 70d I think - RIP 2020 for wedding photographers as a season lol - this is pretty encouraging for the SL system, definitely have considered it for awhile.
I cant leave mine alone. There's definitely some special about those files. Great video!
I've owned an M10 and M10-P, which are also 24mp, and they're incredible, but the SL2-S files are just that much nicer. I sold the M10-P to get another SL2-S.
@hellobrandonscott I have an M10 too. Also a special camera but not as practical.
Woah Woah and Woah!!!! Great seeing you again!
👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
Thanks for the confidence boost. I have an SL2-S and love it, just saw the new SL3-S release and was like oooooo but this reminded me how viable my SL2-S still is
Sl3-s is gamechenger for m lenses :D
Fully true. IMO the only reason now to switch to a 3-S is simply a preference on packaging and form factor, because the images should be nearly identical.
Just got mine…love it❤️ Fantastic discount with accessories!
Great video. Ignore the haters. I have never owned anything SL, thinking about getting one for events. So your video is perfectly timely for me. My main camera is canon r5, but I want a camera and photos that is a little different. Long time M and Q shooter.
Definitely worth trying out! My associate/second photographer uses an R5, so I edit R5 files a fair bit and while it might not be a tremendous difference in IQ to the average person, to me it's strikingly noticeable. I can always tell a 2-S file when mixed into the pile with the R5.
Saved, to watch over and over after binging gears reviews.. 😊
haha, glad I could offer a counterpoint
Just got the SL3-S, the AF is really a great step up compared to the SL2-S! Enjoying the added reliability and precision of the AF! Thanks for your review of the SL2-S!
thanks for your comment, i will share your video. anyway, due to capture one,
i have sold all my x1dii and will switched sl system. i have also a iq4-150 & x-h2s user ^^
Dude, 24mp?!! Been shooting at least 42mp for over a decade, & 100mp for a few years. I have the incredible M11M, & despite problems, Love It!!! Now I could use a color body for the M lenses I have. Saw this deal, thought about it, ended up buying it. At first, I thought I would probably return it, and get an SL3. But the more I use it, I’m extremely impressed. Absolutely gonna keep it. It’s an amazing camera that delivers strangely unique files that are really beautiful. Simply not commensurate with other cameras because the sensor is very different. The fact that the SL3S will also be 24MP, makes this a very unique and incredible value proposition. And this camera has a position with my other larger MP cameras, but has become my favorite for wedding work. And since I have the M11 Monochrom, it’s awkward how amazing the BW file conversions are. Not really comparable to the monochrom, but very different from regular sensor cameras. It’s really interesting how this camera has an incredible unique value proposition. And I’m so happy with it, I’m even considering another, or simply an SL2 as a companion for a pro kit, that is strictly Leica. Otherwise, right now I use a couple of Sony‘s as work horses, and 2 Fuji GFX. Keeping it Leica and using small M lenses means my entire kit would be so much smaller.
Congrats! That's awesome. Yeah I've had so many different Leica models over the years but the one that remains is the SL2-S. It'll have to be a pretty incredible camera that dethrones that one for me someday.
Dude do you actually use those megapixels? Lol
Those are some well-used cameras!
They've seen a lot.
Thank you for a very interesting video. I love my SL-2s and even now that the SL-3s has been announced, I see no compelling reason to upgrade. The two most relevant features for me are the phase detect AF and the tilting screen, both of which I can live without. I have never had a problem with the autofocus using the SL-2s for studio portraiture, event and landscape photography. I have found the eye detection to be excellent (almost infallible), and the in-body stabilisation to be amazing. For subject AF (animals, birds, trains, whatever), and fast-moving stuff (like my hyper-active sprocker spaniel) I have other cameras for that. The build quality of the Leica is top notch, the ergonomics are superb, and the interface and menu system is a joy to use. I shall not be selling my SL-2s any time soon, though I may eventually get an SL3 to go with it.
Couldn't agree more with everything you said. Spot on! Long live the SL2-S! haha
Agree. Great camera and surely worth it even in 2025.
Only issue I faced is the extremely tight connection of the SL/M adapter (Leica made adapter and not aftermarket). Other than that the SL is a fantastic tool for making images.
Just picked up an SL2-S/35f2 kit at my local camera shop for under $4k. I can use it for 3 years and it’ll probably depreciate less than $1k. Now that the SL3-S was announced, I think you’re going to see used prices of the SL2-S go UP because very little has changed with respect to image output. Oh, and B&H is now sold out of all new SL2-S’s.
What SD card would you recommend? Is the card you showed a V60 or V90?
Congrats! That's such a great move. The card I had in the video is just a V60 and it is more than adequate for the 2-S. I auditioned a V90 before buying a full dozen, and the V90 didn't make enough of a difference to justify the 2x+ price difference. I've been using these (amzn.to/3WnGX5N) since the summer and they've been such an improvement.
Hey thanks for the video. Was wondering the same thing as you can get good deals on them right now. I tend to stick with Leica rangefinders but would like to try one
Great vudeo
I have buyed for a couple of days a brand new sl2s from a German dealer for 2700€ NEW 😊
Hi, which German dealer did you buy it?
I'd love to hear your comments on any differences there may be between the SL2-S and SL3-S sensors. Color shift, etc......
For sure! When I get my hands on one I'll definitely do a comparison.
Lets gooooo
Help me make it sound better pls lol
Thanks for the video. Can I ask how you have found reliability? Have you needed any tech support from Leica in your time of ownership? You have 4 so I am assuming you are hedging you bets 😅
Great question, I might actually make a dedicated video about this, but basically yes, they've been bulletproof EXCEPT, one of them is with Leica right now because of the infamous shutter lock up issue. They replaced the shutter assembly and coincidentally emailed me today to tell me it's done! Totally out of warranty cost was $360. This body BY FAR was the most used though, it must have something like half a million shutter actuations on it, so the fact that it lasted this long at all was pretty remarkable.
My 60mp raws are over 100mb each. Storage is too expensive and no one needs that much detail on their face. Makes work flow harder overall. 24mp is perfect.
Long live 24mp!
Great vid, thanks. Can I ask why did you move from Canon to Leica? I currently have the Canon 5D4 and its been a stalwart however I am look ing at the Leica SL2s. Do you have any side by side files from both? Thanks
Ta-da! brandonscottphoto.co/gear/why-i-made-the-switch-to-leica-2/
@ Thanks for this, great blog, I’m going to have a read through the other articles later too (looking at MacBooks at the moment). Can I ask what your opinion on image quality/colour science is between the 2 systems? Thanks
Bought a SL3 when it came out, sold it and kept my SL2
This is the way haha
You would have to pry my SL2S Reporter from my cold dead hands.
This is the way.
These kind of videos/titles need to stop. Why would a camera become bad just because of it's age?
For so many reasons. The Leica M8/M9, for example, have sensor corrosion issues the older they get. Old M6s have issues with circuit boards dying and the light meter going out as a result. My wife has an OG Canon Rebel, and it's not easy finding SD cards anymore that work with that camera because it can't accept newer cards. Point being, as the tide of tech and time continues to move forward, a lot of cameras get left behind either because of physical failures, or tech becoming unsupported as years click by.
True, the camera is barely 5 years out…
The camera itself doesn't become bad, necessarily, but the question is whether the camera is good value/utility compared with current offerings. The SL2S is still very competitive in terms of image quality, video quality, and features.
@@raksh9well said 👏🏼
Hey the prices have dropped too. Can get an sl 2 or sl2s now and some mint second hand ones as people move to sl3 for better deals now. Sometimes the changes might not be that important for some people and they can get a deal. Finding out what people who use them think is useful. Certainly is for me. 👍🏻
Less megapixels is NOT better for low light. This myth has been covered in many videos here in youtube.
I'm just reporting what I know. My Q2 and other >24mp Leica bodies don't perform nearly as well in low light at the SL2-S or my M10 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@hellobrandonscottyes it is true. I have shot ISO 12,800 with medium format Hasselblad and the files are completely useable. It really depends on the sensor.
@@albertma5467pixels per mm2 or pixel size is the issue … hasselblad has a bigger sensor so lower pixel density at any given resolution.
These are they still worth it in …. videos are the dumbest videos on RUclips
Genuinely curious - why do you watch them, let alone comment on them if you don't like them? Totally honest question, not at all offended by your criticism, just curious.
@@hellobrandonscottI haven’t watched it, your video came across. Why comment on them? I comment on videos I like and on videos I don’t like.
I quite enjoy them. Each to their own.