Is the *NEW* ICS MP5 WORTH it?! 🤔 ICS MP5 CES-P Review
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Today we have a look at the new ICS ces-p mp5 a5. On paper it sounds great but what is it like for real?
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A friend of mine will be howling with sorrow after finding out these came out in september, when he first started looking for an mp5 as his first airsoft gun, but wound up getting a p90 cause the only thing at the time he could find that he wanted was a g&g mp5, and they were well out of stock. Thanks for the great review and keep up the good work
They’ve only just become available, they were only shown at the MOA in September. P90 is still iconic 👍. Tell him to have both 😁
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT I'm pretty sure itll be his next gun. He just bought an Arcturus 416 (oddly enough, like 2 days before your vid came out).
You're doing some of the most comprehensive reviews on RUclips, thank you for all the hard work.
Gear Parts thanks mate, I appreciate the support 👍
The review I was looking for : god bless this channel !
Yeah i was 10 when Maggies boys did that job on that i was glued to the tv watching unfold. Its nice to see someome review a ICS
Big Bird have you seen some of the pimping you can do on the M17 pistol like new outer barrel with thread and new muzzle brake.
Mark Greenway I haven’t no, I’ll have to look in to it, I’ve just been using mine as well lol
Jk army has the bits and bobs to slap on the M17 but ive used my airsoft buget up for this and nxt months
Mark Greenway I love JK Army but they stuck all my money up.
I e brought some fibre optic sights from Rainbow8 just waiting for them to come
Love the review and keep up the awesome work! Would you say this is better than a Krytac Vector or PDW, or for a bit lower should i go for CA Nemesis
Meh Meh the Krytac vector is really nice, and I sort of want one, but, it’s totally different to this, which makes it hard to compare. the one I’ve used weighed as much as a small town but felt great, real solid. The gearbox was nothing special, just nice I guess. PDW’s, I think the ICS is the best, which has the exact same function as this MP5.
CA Nemesis isn’t really in the same league. I really love this MP5, it can just be tricky to fit lights etc.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT thank you so much for the response! i ll look into ics' pdw as i cant find the mp5 anywhere in europe sadly
Meh Meh You’re welcome, good choice 👍 wouldn’t mind one myself.
Good review, thx a lot, I guess I ll buy one.
What mag did you try ? Cyma one ? So did you mill the mag catch to fit Cyma mags ?
Thanks mate, I did mill it down to take the Cyma mag but I’ve heard the later models fit without mod.
Long video, yet pretty detailed. Long talk about the magazine modification, yet didn't show us what you did.
Looking forward to this SMG for my BD.
Greetings from the Netherlands
DementeX I filmed the magazine mod but it got deleted. I’ll maybe put a short video up showing it.
I'm missing MP5K and SEF lowers in their lineup.
I have an ICS CXP08, love the split gearbox and precock.
Thanks for another amazing in depth video! Dead keen on this one. Are the stock/handguard from the Cyma interchangeable with the ICS?
Thanks mate 👍 I’m not sure on the compatibility yet as I’ve not had chance, but I suspect there may be some modifications needed. ICS tend to do things their own way.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT that's a shame. Cyma furniture bits can be picked up very cheap and would add a lot in terms of modularity
Hey mate, great review! You're the one who prompted me to get mine which arrived today. One question I have is what battery do you use? I've got a multitude of lipos in all shapes and sizes but none really fit.
Hi mate, thanks for the support. I use a 1450mah 11.1v nunchuck (3 separate cells). It’s a tight fit but does go in. You have a cell either side and one underneath. I put Velcro on the side ones to keep them in place while fitting the hand guard.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT I tried using a setup like that, minus the velcro. I'm currently 3d printing a different handguard but will also try the velcro. Cheers!
love the channel, This video inspired me to get my MP5 working! Was the second AEG i ever bought and its made me fall back in love with the platform!
Looks like a super solid mp5 option, love the steel receiver and bolt handle that make a legit hk slap possible. Hope the front end is close enough to 1:1 scale to fit something like a Midwest Industries rail on it. Great, thorough review as always!
I really hope it’s close as I want to put a R/S Surefire grip on it.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT, those are nice too, keeps a little closer to original look but gives ya a nice light. I'd only go with the mlok one for camera mounting options as well as ability to add a light. It does take away from that iconic hk styling though
And ? Is ist 1:1 Scale? Does the rail fit?
What's the range on this thing? It looks absolutely amazing.
I cannot stand pot metal receivers like on my or all APS rifles. They should all be steele at this level or cost.
I love that you talk about materials and type of metal the receiver is aswell as wether it has an electronic vs mechanical trigger,besides myself I’ve not ever heard anyone mention this detail in unboxings or reviews and it’s such an important thing to know.
I like the Cyma MP5 -6 style best and yours is also very nice looking too!
The ICS is beautiful but not designed esthetically as cool as the Cyma versions in my opinion and wow Is that spring ring loud! All that wobble and ringing is an easy fix though.
Especially for someone with your knowledge. If you don’t mind me asking? Where does the name Big Bird come from? Thanks,Great video as usual! Crisis/Chris
Ultra Collector Custom Airsoft thanks mate 👍. It’s a nick name I have had for many years. I’m 6’4” and when I was young, I was working with a bunch of guys who were all a lot shorter than me, they did it was like having bigbird around, and the name stuck.
So it’s not a negative nickname? I suppose you’d not own it as much if it were? I feel odd calling or referring to you as Big Bird though,hope that’s not weird?
Looks like this will be the first MP5 I buy keep at it love the vids!!
Great review! Very interested in one of these so glad you've picked one up! Love the MP5 but really turned off by the VFC version.
Another awesome, no nonsense video review that is well worth a watch! 👏 Thank you for taking the time to give an overview of the internals as well - looks like a great mp5 replica, good to see ICS using their split gearbox commonly found in their AR’s in an MP5 replica. Regarding the stock, specifically the end cap that slides over the receiver - could the steel receiver be *slightly* bent onwards a little to make it a tighter fit rather than using tape?
Thanks for the support 👍 yes you could manipulate the steel a little. You could even put a small bolt through.
Hey BiG Bird I just wanted to say this review was so helpful It actually convinced me to buy this gun, and I'm loving it so far !! I was wondering if you knew anything about the original three-lug muzzle piece. Is it possible to swap it out with an aftermarket threaded three-lug piece ? is the original three lug connected to the barrel ? IDK why ICS always uses the non threaded part, so annoying when other manufacturers like CYMA always use threaded end caps.
The problem i`ve had with all my mp5s are the selector gets weakend through time and use. You can pull the trigger and it will fire anyways.
Great review as always. Do you know if a nimh battery could fit in that handguard?
I’ve not tried, but it’s very doubtful.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT Okay thank you :)
Not sure if you can compare but how would you stack it against the VFC Gen2 MP5 one that everyone raves about?
Cody Williamson well, I haven’t got one to compare, but I would put my money on the ICS
Love the videos mate, you really go in-depth with the reviews and internals.
Where did you get your ICS MP5 A5?
If been trawling the Web and can't find a single supplier that has them in stock.
I did buy a JG MP5A5 but it was garbage, the body pin for the battery compartment fell out, the thread protector (and another 14mm CCW one I had) just slid off, the left fire selector fell off, the drum sights were wobbly, the mag didn't feed and just jammed the hop unit with BB's (all before trying to chrono it!) and when I got it to fire one round I got 104 FPS! I sent it back immediately and got a full refund, even the tech I spoke to at the shop said they were terrible! So why do they even stock them?
If you know where I could get that ICS model in stock, I'd be eternally grateful!
Keep up the great quality videos! I trust your reviews as you're honest and unlike some sellout RUclipsrs, you're not paid to say they're all wonderful.
You can get a suppressor for the tri-lug adapter, I think it's the Gemtech Raptor, but they're about £80!
Thanks mate, I got mine from Fire Support but I doubt they’ll have stock. Everything is in short supply which I guess is COVID related. It took 5 months to get some gas mags from Modify.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT Finally they got a restock in today, only 6 though! I ordered one right away though, I'm pretty excited as I previously ordered a JG one and there was a list of faults - battery compartment pin fell out, flash hider fell off, thread protector on barrel fell off (no threading), left fire selector fell off, drum sight was wobbling all over the place, mag wouldn't feeed and constantly jammed, got one chrono reading of 104.5 FPS and more, so it went back for a full refund.
Excited for the select-fire optiions and solid build, I already have an MP5 Claw mount and an optic that'll look the business!
Glad you did this review, made me buy the gun as you show the features and internals.
I saw (well, he always covers his face) the Airsoft Mike (I got it for free!) review and he doesn't know his a*se from his elbow (probably couldn't even change a rubber) and I couldn't stand his grating, irritating voice and gimmicky "Duke Nukem" samples, f*cking useless idiot that does all his shooting tests on a gun vice claiming he's such an amazing shot! RUclips would be better without him.
I got a Umarex VFC Elite Force MP5A4 last year and I love it though I was sad to see they dropped the 3 round burst mode
that the previous model had but it does have the Avalon gearbox and a mosfet which is an improvement. Unfortunately in the
USA we only have one choice for Glocks and H&K MP5's due to patent agreements here. I waited 3 years for the release to get
mine so I'm thrilled to have it in my arsenal it's a solid piece of kit.
Is there a way to order from other countries?
HEY BIGBIRD. So I sold the cyma and got the ces p - so happy with it! As I've only ever used GBBR's I'd appreciate some help .
Which fuse should I use with a 7.4v? I notice it comes with 3... currently using a 25c 7.4v.
Lastly, what do I risk using an 11.1v? I'm reluctant to and to be honest, happy with the performance with a 7.4v.
Thanks I'm advance! Glad I took your word on this SMG.
Nice one mate, glad you got one. The fuses are usually 3amp but a 5amp is fine. If you are happy with 7.4v stick with it 👍 the 11.1v puts more power through the motor and causes a little more wear especially with active breaking etc. The biggest risk with the 11.1v is when using mechanical trigger switches as the extra power burns the contacts. Mosfets put all the power in to the motor instead of through the contact.
There is a ton of crap about batteries in Airsoft, and people will often quote the experience of a mates, mate who knew a guy who thought he heard about an Airsoft gun that might have failed when someone waved a lipo battery at it. Before you know it, it’s all hard facts! I actually ran an upgraded DMR m14 ebr for years with a 14.8v battery, in the days of basic mosfets, so it’s not the worst. Having said that, if you have a gun running well on a 7.4v stick with it. I’d say I use 11.1v batteries in 70% of my aegs these days, but I have a couple that will always double feed on anything other than a 7.4.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT thanks for the very details answer man, really appreciate it! All makes sense. Any advice on barrel / hop upgrade?!
@@iSkateAlso no problem mate, the hop unit is great as it is but for effective straight forward setups, I’d say maple leaf barrel and a 60 degree macaron rubber with an omega nub. I’ve never seen a bad setup on these. My preferred combo is the tnt barrel and hop and nub but they can take a bit more time to get perfect but when you do, 😮! I’ve honestly seen stupid results! I think you have to get the cylinder ratio just right for these to work with these, I’m actually going to try a different port in my CES-P.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT others have reccomended the same, thanks once again man. And last question dude ... just come back from the range and noticed maybe 1 / 2 shots every now and then would just splurt out the barrel with no range at all.. almost like there was a huge voltage drop.. :/ any idea!?
@@iSkateAlso probably either a double feed or a bb is getting pushed past the hop rubber on the precocking cycle. Just keep an eye on it. It won’t be electrical, but could be something as simple as the bb quality, amount of hop applied etc.
So i didn't quite understand what you did to put in a stronger battery and i really would like to know but other than that i really enjoyed the video as much as i could because i only have acess to a semi only version because i live in germany sooooo. Oh yeah happy new year to y'all although it is a bit late.
Love the channel! You really deserve more subs :)
Quick qeustion, i won the ces-p in a contest and received it today, i ordered cyma midcaps. Where do i need to cut the mag catch to make them fit ?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks I appreciate that. If you remove the catch, you see the blade that holds the mag in. If you get your ICS mag and measure the distance from the top of the mag, to the edge of the lip, them do the same for the Cyma, the difference is how much you take off. I’ll put a video up soon, as I’ve had a few questions about that👍
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT thanks a lot 👌keep up the good work:)
@@noelboumans4216 cheers mate, I just put a video up showing it 👍
The fire selector switch feeling like that can be sorted by slightly deepening the hole that the spring for the switch goes into to make the 'click'
or stretching the spring ever so slightly or putting a slightly stronger spring in it, you can do this with any gun that uses the same mechanism to make the 'click'.
I wouldn't do this with a brand new gun though until the return period or warranty is up.
This isn’t s actually a lot better after using it but the click on this actually comes from indentations in the gearbox and a sprung locator on the selector plate.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT ahh so it's not on the body itself, same method would still apply although i would only do that job if you are already inside the gearbox fixing an issue.
Bigg Gee you could, but after doing some run and gun drill last week it’s super smooth 👍 needed bedding in.
Keep going mate. Your videos are the best on RUclips.
Thanks dude, that’s really nice of you to say 👍
Gotta love the Split gearbox Design and in a MP5....Double Win!
That’s a lovely gun, I think it’s really cool how they incorporated the split gearbox, the cylinder head is a bit “what” as I was watching an internal review of a cheaper gun of theirs (m4) that had a gray double o ring metal cylinder head, then again it’s only a £10 part at most and I’m not the guy at the IcS factory that decides what parts go into what gun lol, also great review!
@BigBirdsAirsoft Great review and love watching your YT videos. Curious query: If you had a choice between this (new) ICS CES series and a (older) TM 416C which would you choose, in terms of quality, drills and realism..? TIA Peace Out ✌🏼😎
Thank mate 👍 I love TM ngrs guns but the 416c is a bit of a faff with the PEQ battery box, and as for the mag battery 😭😭😭 the CES is great but doesn’t have bolt stop etc. but you can run real drill if you want without worrying about damage.
Quality wise, TM do it so very well but the CES is well put together and nothing to sniff at. The only thing you need to be careful of with the CES is the micro switches breaking. It’s easy and cheap to fix and maybe a bad batch, but worth considering. 👍
Awesome video! What retailer in the UK did you get it from? Subscribed and smashed the notifications!
Thanks mate 👍 I got it from Fire Support.
Brilliant thanks for replying! Keep up the good work with the videos!
What's better? This one or the cyma platinum cm. 041g? Thanks!!
Hi mate, me again! I bought an MS1 lower to put onto my A5 (switch it up a bit) How easy is it to remove the gear box / motor etc.? I know how to disassemble the body - Do I need to remove the selectors then pull the whole unit out? Thanks mate!!
Another great review of an absolute classic gun . To this day the real steel MP5 is the best carbine I have shot ...so accurate and reliable . This version looks bomb proof and worth every penny . Glad to see you got a shout out from Airsoftology and I got a fleeting 0.5s of fame 🤣a s I was pasted on his screen as one of the many who recommended your channel ....keep up the great work I watch your reviews from start to finish because you strip these guns down and give an honest opinion and they are hard to come by 👍👍
Thanks mate I really appreciated that. Thanks for supporting the channel 👍
@Johnny Dong please feel free to enlighten me ..I only used it for 10 years
A carbine is a long gun firearm but instead with a shorter barrel rather than a standard rifle or musket. Most carbines are shortened versions of full-length rifles, shooting the same type of ammunition, while others fire generally lower-powered ammunition, including types designed for pistols.
@Johnny Dong short barrel rifle ...firing pistol ammo seems to fit for me ....tbh
The Mp5sf is classified as a semi automatic carbine ...look it up....that was the weapon I carried in both solid and sliding stock version....so I am happy with its a carbine ...the other ones you can call a sub machine gun
What kind of mid-cap magazin would you recomend for this model ?
If ics made a sd version, it would sell like hot cakes, especially since it would be currently the only high end aeg model
they have ICS MP5 SD5
If you’d like to know how to add a tracer or suppressor on the end of that style barrel extension/flash let me know and I’ll recommend you to a custom product meant for a specific m9 with a larger thicker type outer barrel and the part can be modified as well and will lock on to the end of the MP5 flash hider or similar sized barrels. Later!
Ultra Collector Custom Airsoft yeah let me know 👍
I’ve got a g&g tgm mp5... don’t suppose the hop up in this ics version would fit it, would it?
@BBA The part is a metal cap of sorts with a threaded top that bolts into the cap and goes over top of the end of the outer barrel on an m92 A1 which is thicker than almost all pistol barrels.
The inside piece that tightens around the barrel clamps on and as you screw down the threaded cap it tightens the plastic ring which has a cut so it’s not a complete circle,it’s more of a C and if the outer or inner is too small for a barrel then you can cut a little bit at a time from one end of the C clip which will cause it to tighten more.
With the MP5 the tip slopes and had those tiny wings so the modding that needs to be done is to use a razor blade to trim off the start of the winged flash hider or if your model has enough of a straight tip then it will clamp right to it.
This is what I did for my ICS and the adapter will push or butt up against the Thicker end and tighten around it flush making it work.
I opted to use the Acetech lighter as a Tracer which is light and has an outer detent extension Vs a flush ended one with an inner detent from the base.
The lighter S or the Xcortech S has that half inch female adapter which would work great too but any tracer should work as long as the adapter stays solid and straight!
After trimming the C clip I can still use the adapter on other pistols that I couldn’t prior.
For instance I’m using it on the 18c right now around the Blaze tip.
To any readers,if you Sub to my channel and make sure you’re subbed to Big Bird as well and if you leave a comment on one of my videos wanting to know more I’ll make a video of the product,packaging and where you can purchase it. Thanks, Crisis
Hey BBA After just looking at my ICS I Only had to sand the end of the outer flash To rough it up a bit but on my VHC MP5 I had to trim the flashes wings just a tiny bit because it slopes and is far shorter.
My bad I totally misread this reply man. I have no idea but even though they’re similar I doubt they’ed drop into each other,Big bird would know more about that for sure.
It's got the proper stock on it, good. Can it take real parts though?
Hey buddy what’s your thoughts a year later??
Any chance of a review the ICS PDW9? Torn between this MP5 and that rifle
Mister Lizard I’d love too mate, but I’m having to save some cash for upcoming guns. Internally, it uses the same system as the mp5, looks really cool though.
Hey man love the reviews and tech work :) could you drop a hpa engine in this? Say a v2 p star jack?
Thanks again for videos
Cheers
Thanks for the support 👍 I’m really not sure, but it could be possible. The top part of the gb is pretty normal so there’s a good chance. I’ve not actually built an HPA setup yet.
can you show us exactly what you did to the mag catch?
I actually filmed me modifying the catch, but the footage got deleted by accident. I’ll have to do an update.
Mick I will be doing some updates on this years unboxing.
Love your channel man! Keep up the good videos!
Thanks dude 👍 I really appreciate the support 🙂
Any update on the mag catch modification?
Also, did anyone change the motor yet? Do regular long type Aeg motors fit this?
Where did you get this airsoft gun? I've been wanting an ICS MP5 for years and they're sold out almost everywhere. TELL ME NOW PLESE.
This video is a few months old mate, they are all sold out for the time being.
I've finally got the tactical version of this do you know what size 11.1 lipo will fit it as you know not much room cheers in advance mate
Do you do upgrades as in have a shop?
just out of interest, how come you put a 11v battery inside and not kept the 7v ? i know you get more talk from a 11 but lots of people say that it puts more stress on the gear box if you use as high voltage battery so more service work is required ? whats ur say in this please ? Thanks !
There is a lot of rubbish banded around about 11.1’s. Some guns run better on 11.1’s and some run better on 7.4’s. The biggest form of stress in a gearbox is the spring compression. Whatever power battery you have the compression is the same. You get better trigger response too. The mp5 runs so much better on the 11.1 as it has an electronic trigger unit (etu) and this is where people get confused. If you have a basic Cyma, and throw an 11.1 battery in, you’ll burn the trigger contacts from arcing, and eventually damage the gun. If you have a mosfet or ETU of some kind, most of the voltage is directed to the motor and the trigger is just a signal.
If a gearbox breaks because you are using an 11.1, it’s a badly built gearbox IMO. I used to have an m14 DMR before the day of pre-cocking and I used a mosfet with a 14.8v volt battery, it never missed a beat.
They don’t work in everything, I wouldn’t put one in my TM SCAR as it doesn’t need it, and guns with very simple mosfets can double feed but as with everything in Airsoft you have to try it out. I’d never run the 7.4 in the mp5 as it just felt flat.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT ok thanks for that good reply :) !
Hi big bird! I ordered the ms1 version after watching this review and was wondering if you could help. The front sight post has a lot of wobble. Firesupport said they fixed it but it still has wobble. Does yours have any movement in the front sight?
Rob Aldridge mine is solid tbf. There should be two really small grub screws underneath. They might me loose or rounded off so they can’t be tightened. That’s were I’d look first.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT thanks for the response! They say they've tightened and thread locked them but its still moving. Might have to just get my money back which is a shame as I love the gun!
Rob Aldridge that’s a real shame, I bet it could be easily fixed. If it was mine I would remove it and re-drill and tap the holes. Really unusual for ICS.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT unfortunately I'm not very technically minded! I was hoping they would swap for a replacement but they don't seem keen. Might just have to wait until they get the a5 back in stock
Rob Aldridge that’s a shame 😕 I honestly love my A5, it’s amazing.
If you want a suppressor etc, you need to change the muzzle for one with threading, like ICS part MP-59.
Unless it's a three-lug suppressor.
@@tylarkit4439 Can you swap out the original part on this gun for a threaded one ? I just got it and I want to modify it to have the threaded three lug, IDK why ICS always puts the non threaded one on so annoying.
@@pushinpeter307 Let me look into it, not sure as I do not own either the suppressor or firearm.
I'm planning to buy this bad boy but my problem is the picture of this gun in the shop that I want to buy to have a orange tip so is there any chance that I can remove the orange tip to make it more realistic?
Have you looked into fitting the G&P flashlight handguard? It’s tm spec. I’m thinking of buying this replica but the idea of not be able to fit one of these put’s me off.
Daan I haven’t, I was going to fit a real one but don’t think the battery will fit. I haven’t looked at the G&P one or ICS as I want a decent light fitted. Not sure if you can change them.
BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT understandable. For me it’s more for aesthetics i guess but will keep it mind. Thanks!
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT the original ICS one will fit i was told by ICS, ive also managed to fit that with my old surefire 6P light. Not sure if any newer SF lights fit.....i still have the CES on order!
Is that an opened contact on the lower that leads forward towards the battery connections?
The mag catch mod, can't you just buy a TM spec mag catc instead of doing the dremel mod on the one on the gun?
It is an open contact, it is made when the top receiver meets the lower receiver. No idea about the TM mag catch but I believe the newer models have had the catch updated so there is no need.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT You had this for a while now, is that open contact still working as it should?
Thank you for the educational videos
Have you by any chance tried a brushless motor in this?
Great review, really want one of these now 😎
I got this finally, it NEEDS to be rear wired. Think it’s possible???
I’ve not looked to do it but I can’t think why not off the top of my head
Doesn't it have a problem with its mag dropping by itself? I just saw one of my teammates using this gun, and he complains so much about its magazine constantly dropping during an airsoft game. Is it possible to use CYMA hi-cap mag without any modification?
Hi mate, I’ve never had a mag fall out! That’s really odd. No, you have to modify the mag catch to use Cyma mags, but it’s worth it.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT Thanks for the answer. Maybe he was just unlucky to pick a junky mag...LOL
I have the chance to pre order this however I just bought a cyma sd6 blue edition
Question is, do I buy the ICS and leave as is or.. spend a bunch upgrading the cyma...
Only you can answer that! Do you want a steel body? 3 round burst, split gb? Or do a more traditional v2 gb build with a gate trigger unit etc.? The quality of the ics is far greater than the Cyma, throughout, and the hop chamber in the ics is on another planet to the Cyma, in fact they hop unit is the only limiting factor in the Cyma. Otherwise, you could change it all.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT thanks the rundown.. I think I'm going to sell my WE APACHE for the ICS ... always been a GBBR guy but after purchasing the CYMA, it's so easy just reloading mags and not refilling every mag or so.. ill eventually upgrade the CYMA but use the ICS as my primary as it doesn't look as if any upgrades are needed! Mind made up😂
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT oh P.S - using an 11.1 in a stock CYMA... reccomended or no? Primarily use semi only..
@@iSkateAlso no! Don’t do it! The Cyma will burn out the trigger contacts with an 11.1v. Use a goo 7.4 with a high c rating. You’ll be fine.
Great review.was looking to get the cyma at some point but you’ve thrown a spanner in the works🧐.😁
Karl Roadie lol yeah I know what you mean. The Cyma is still amazing value, and I’m keeping mine. Although I’ve just finished doing some shooting drills in the garden with the ics and it really is superb.
BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT still enjoying my specna at the moment (in the garden lol) just waiting for spray paint to pimp it up.like yourself mp5 is a childhood dream to have😁.i will decide when sites are reopened 👍.keep up with the great and honest reviews 😁
Karl Roadie thanks mate, stay safe 👍
Is it an usual MP disassembly or there are some tricks to get the lower GB out?
[RAPAX] Stobbe it’s really easy to strip down, a really nice gearbox.
Good reviews 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🔫
Will it fit a regular nunchuck battery?
Didn't you say in one video that you have owned e&l ak? You could buy lck ak and make video about lct vs e&l vs sa ak, or just e&l vs lct ak.
I did, but I sold it. I did a full custom build and weathered it. It looked awesome, when someone offered me decent price for it I thought, I’ll just make another but I didn’t. That’s be a good comparison but I wouldn’t include the SA, I actually sent it back as it was so poor.
Hope you start doing reviews again
I used to own one of their older ones, well 2 actually at different times as I had both the SEF and Navy versions... really tempted with one of these as I loved my older ones and this looks great... now where might one find a KAC style rail for one of these? My old ones I generally had either the basic grip or the swat style flashlight... a railed version would be cool though.
Chris Walton this thing is really so good. I was going to fit one of the real steel flashlight hand guards to this but I don’t think it’ll fit. I’m not sure what will fit on these at the moment but I’ll keep looking. This is now one of my favourites.
The old version split gearbox always fail on first round in single mode, is there any issue in this gun?
great vid once again. however, i feel like you need to show how it shoots with 7,4 lipo and 11,1
Mikkel Borgholt it’s just a little slower on full auto. I should mention, ics say it’s supposed to be run on an 11.1.
One question: On all other reviews and pages, it says 390 fps, why is this one only about 300 fps??
That would be illegal in the UK
hey.
Does anyone know if there Is enough space inside the gearbox to rearrange the cables to make them go out the back into a fixed stock?
I have an OLD ICS MP5; any US retailers selling these or any talk of it happening?
I just got one of these and I can’t seem to fit my 11.1v battery in it it’s been extremely tough and I really don’t wanna use a 7.4 I e also seen video is people using 11.1 with this gun online does anyone have any tips
should i put a gate titan in it?
Can u just change the mag well for a cyma one?
Where can I get the ics mp5 ces-p as everywhere seems to be out of stock and I've been looking for months
Everywhere I’ve seen are now out of stock mate. The last place I saw them was in France but they are out too now. When the appear, you have to be quick.
I think the AGM STG44 stock might fit on the MP5 stock if i'm not mistaken
awesome content ! keep it up
PVZ thanks mate 👍
I really like ICS I have a CXP that I've put a bunch of shit in and I was looking at the PDW9 but they aren't releasing mid caps for it for a few months why they didn't drop the mid caps the same time they dropped the rifle is kind of stupid to me
isaac shively yeah I totally agree, why the hell they wouldn’t do that. Hi-caps seem less popular than ever.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT and I play Speedsoft and we can't run HiCaps, I ended up just getting the new SSS lower gearbox that came in your MP5 for my CXP but it came with a flat trigger which makes the trigger pull feel even shorter and along with the precock feature I can keep up with the high speed builds I run into all the time... Also the gears in ICS split gearboxes is always on point I wish more companies would shim their gearboxes from the factory and stop using springs like VFC because those springs are worse than just putting one shim on each gear like most companies do
Where can we get our hands on one of these?
North Hustler I got mine from Fire Support but there should be other ICS dealers stocking them.
The box rubbing is intense
Question, with the gearbox set up as proprietary as it is, would you be able to fit a gate titan in there? The fit doesn't look right but I'd be very interested in changing the etu for a gate
achillies665 hi mate, no you wouldn’t get a Titan in there. Not sure if it would configure anyway as there are 4 positions opposed to the normal 3 positions.
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT ah well, thanks man
achillies665 you’re welcome dude, ironically I damaged one of the micro switches on the fire select. Fortunately the board is really cheap to replace. Awesome MP5 though. I also fitted a TNT barrel and it feels like I could hit the moon lol
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT Hey so I just picked up the MS1 to do a cyberpunk loadout and I noticed something of interest. The front flash hider screws off to reveal a CCW thread even though there was no visible grub screw, so you can fit a suppresser.Might be good for yours as well. Though in my case it was a swordfish conversion kit but just thought I'd pass on the knowledge. Also finding the S3 switch to be better than I expected. Thanks for the review, made a really good choice out of it.
achillies665 thanks mate, nice heads up 👍 I’ve put a TnT barrel rubber and nub in mine now to, it’s like a laser lol.
welldone again buddy
earl johns thanks mate 👍
How do i fit a front grip? Cant find and handguards with rail system for this, ples help
Screw a short ris on the bottom is the cheapest way,or ditch the handcover and get a railed one, magpul or mlok
Question. Is the nozzle an O'Ring nozzle? You did not mention that. Thanks.
No it’s a standard nozzle, that and the cylinder head are the only upgrades I’d do to the gb
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT Thanks, Love the review. I believe this may be the new solid contender to the Systema, that is currently out of production. With a better hop. LOL
Donald Bons yeah I’d agree, I think the days of the Systema being the only good MP5 are over. I came so close to buying one of the kits so many times
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT Yeah, me too. Then they were not available anymore. BTW, I would like to see you review the SRC MP5SD CO2 SMG Rifle someday. It actually looks better than the WE-Tech. Never a fan of the WE-Tech internals.
Donald Bons I’ve not had a good history with SRC products although that was a long time ago. Would be interesting to see if they have improved.
anyone know where to buy there in the us? ive looked online and it seems that licencing is oreventing us companies from selling them anyone know overseas sites who have them?
Aiden Barry www.unit13shop.eu/en/airsoft-guns/aeg-airsoft-electric-gun/type-mp5/ics-ces-p-a5-s3-v2/a-30315-20000038 have them in stock. Don’t know if the post to the us, but worth asking.
The lugs by the tip of the barrel are designed for a suppressor .
They are but the ICS ones don’t work as they are too wide (I have an mp5 suppressor).
BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT I see , as in the width of the lugs or the diameter of the can ? Could it be modified ? I’ve given you a follow rate your delivery style keep up the good videos
KYDnoise thanks mate I appreciate it 👍 just the lugs from what I can tell with mine. Not sure it the front of the gas tube would interfere.
I have a Classic Army 3 lug QD you think it would work on it?
Farstarbuck probably not, MP5’s seem to all be different.
What do these ics mp5 clone? Marui or vfc?
Neither, they are their own design.
Hey are you looking forward to review the full thrust
The Nov full thrust kit? No, to be honest I’m not sure if some site will let you use them as they may not meet with their insurance. Until I know for sure, it’s not on the radar. I have however got a ton of upgrades to go in the SSG10 👍
Damn! Now I regret buying the Cyma MP5 Blue edition
matej augustin lol don’t regret it, it’s a great gun. The ICS is actually better than I thought it would be too.
Can't seem to find any website that sells it.
N7Trooper N7 this is where I got mine, but they are out of stock atm. www.fire-support.co.uk/product/ics-cesp-mp5-mx5p-a5-s3-retractable-stock-aeg-airsoft-gun
Now there is only one more MP5 model left to review.
It is almost same than the old MX5 PRO with burst mode and steel body
does this gun have blowback?
No it doesn’t.
Very good, thnx
I need this now haha. And of course its out of stock everywhere!
aren berberian it’ll be worth the wait 👍
@@BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT Where did you get yours from?
aren berberian I bought it from fire support but is you look here www.unit13shop.eu/en/airsoft-guns/aeg-airsoft-electric-gun/type-mp5/ics-ces-p-a5-s3-v2/a-30315-20000038 they are in stock 👍
BIGBIRDSAIRSOFT
Thanks! Although I will probably
Wait till Fire supper restock as they are a bit cheeper there.
I wonder if this is the same brand that mine is looks identical but mines 7 years old lol
Yours might be an ICS but this is a total redesign and a new model.
If its the same as the mx5 pro, in front of the trigger it has a screw to regulata the burst, 3, 4, 5... Shots
It doesn’t on this.
Seems pretty good