@@-TheCapedCrusader- Arthur didn't. He just didn't like him. He only knew the schemes when he was literally revealed to be a rat. Other than that he just thought he was crazy and a dick.
@@luigi7146 Not really, he definetely saw through Micah especially after his diagnosis in chapter 6. He literally says to Micah that his whispering into Dutch's ear is what making it that bad. You need to replay the game.
@-TheCapedCrusader- you're not exactly wrong but you aren't exactly right either.. I would say if anything up until the reveal he thinks Micah is selfish crazy dick n that's he filling Dutch's head with bad ideas cuz when Milton tells him Micah has been a good boy n talked plenty Arthur is surprised and confused at first until Milton talks more.. I'd say at most before that Arthur felt bad about Molly cuz he knew she was heartbroken cuz of how Dutch treated her n wanted desperately for it to be Micah cuz he hated him n didn't trust him meanwhile Molly was a good person
@@RIPVANWINKLE22 and jhon left the gang, abigail and jack included, in fact at first he ignored the boy, and that's why arthur was angry with him at the beginning of the game.
@@Rik-Hardt1940 yeah you can see how he likes john more after the end of chapter 3 which was then when john wanted to get jack back more then i wanted to get gambler 8 done
Rdr 1 john was ruthless he captured his own friends he rode with for 13-14 years dutch teached him how to ride, read, shoot a gun, kill, hunt he used all the things he learnt from ducth to kill dutch himself for the protection of his family and some money
John survived getting severely cut on his cheek and nose, getting shot, falling of a train, walking a very far distance injured, and after being shot in vital areas survuved for 45 seconds. Edit: I started a war
@@Richardkitts1914 he would've died in the mountains if it weren't for Javier and Arthur, bro was barley clinging on to life. John also nearly died after getting shot in Fort Mercer
@@angrycinnamontoast794 thats less of a feat falling off a high speed train after you just got shot then having to limp back to camp from probably multiple miles away is way worse
Worst of the best. He's not bad but I don't even think he takes endurance, I think Arthur gets that category after being kidnapped, unfed, literally shot, and with TB in his body, still survived.
@@wyattyxe you're right he never specifically says the word rat but he justified talking n no she wouldn't just randomly say that cuz she's drunk.. if you pay any attention to Molly through out the game it's pretty obvious her entire thing in the story is that Dutch uses her n she loves him and is starved for attention so she says some out of pocket stuff like that to finally get Dutch to pay her any level of attention.. it isn't a logical choice but it's one someone desperate for attention would make.. just probably wasn't how she wanted it to go. The only person who makes any level of sense as being secretly the rat instead of Micah is Abigail n that only makes sense if you do mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that in order to be the rat she'd be purposely putting Jack in danger.. you know... the one thing she is against entire game
@wyattyxe bud the problem is when you take even basic levels of psychology into it every argument falls apart except the Micah one.. plus if you pay attention during the confrontation at Beaver Hallow Micah looks up at the Pinkerton agents n says nothing then acts as surprised as everyone else when the pinkertons announce themselves.. Rockstar hasn't spelled it out for you cuz if you pay attention they don't need to.
micah didint stand a chance aganist rdr2 john which was much weaker than rdr1 john and he barley beated arthur with tb arthur and john cook micah easily even dutch would solo him since he shot john in the head from very far distance with a gun and he only looked at him like 3 seconds
Reflexes I'd say goes to Micah. He is the only character to shoot and interrupt your deadeye. For anyone wondering, this happens in the epilogue in American venom.
@@jazmynlizenbery8975 if they want to make another red dead game it wouldn't be red dead 3 it would be red dead revolver 2 or red dead something but not 3
He wasn’t at his physical peak but mentally he’s the most well read and experienced right before he starts going crazy in rdr2. So let’s say 1898 to be safe.
Listen man. Saying rdr1 John is better than rdr2 Arthur is a stupid debate. Because in rdr1 Arthur was dead. So when you want to put Arthur against John. It's 1899 Arthur vs 1899 John. There is no 1899 Arthur vs 1911 John. Arthur would've still been better than John if he was alive till 1911
@@mzsplays your 100% right but im talking about the video, I don't like comparing like arthur and 1911 john or comparing verse with verse because there will be a lot of possibilities
Rockstar literally intended Arthur to be the best, meaning he was intended to surpass what we already knew about John. The fact that John is a classic shouldn’t determine his canon skill set compared to others
Micah started the fight by firing first a few bullets while john was just a few meters in front of him with no cover whatsoever and the rat still missed
@@eugeniosanapo7321 what about after that cutscene? Tho? He was very accurate with every shot. The reason why he missed up close while John was wasn’t in cover was bc first of all the game would end with John and Arthur dead. He was supposed to avenge Arthur and live for red dead 1
Only scene where i respect Micah and you see that he is a true gunslinger is the one in rhodes when he headshots three guys in 3 seconds after sean is dead
@@MrTesterr he did it in separate times, still John can't survive 6 headshots with explosive ammunition shot from a Schofield Revolver or more shot in a volcanic pistol
i only disagree with the quickdraw, if we are talking about bringing out weapons faster, i will sadly have to give it to micah, because within a half a second he shot the guy who killed sean
Undervaluing Micah’s gunslinging ability so hard. In American venom he proved to have deadeye faster then John’s and after Sean’s death he immediatley located to sniper and killed three men before Sean hit the floor. Id give him reflexes and QuickDraw.
John was on an elevated position as he stared Dutch with a scope, Dutch took one look at his direction and shot John with an ironsight pistol. Dutch sins by a longshot... literally a longshot
Cap Arthur is older and more experienced plus he was able to kill famous gunslinger like Billy midnight Falco and the other guy where he put a dyminte in shit also was able to fight Michel while being sick and dying
@cesarajanel8746 John can do thoes quests to he is just as powerful As arthur in Arthur's game maybe even more. so obviously john 1911 Vs Arthur Chapter 2 1899 would be a Win for john
John has a similar feat, he stood up right for roughly the same amount of time after being turned into swiss cheese. But I still think Arthur is also a strong contender for that category.
@@staple_boithat's not durability that's endurance if we're talking about durability Arthur takes it he got shot by a Shogun close to his chest and he also got shot by rifle 3 times and got torched throughout the game multiple times and got shipwrecked and still survived that John only got shot he has never went through being torched or being shipwrecked while being sick Arthur takes durability
@@Drexzzz4that both. Realistically if John was shot that many times with reapters or shotguns, he limbs would have shot out, but they weren’t, another durability feat that John has but no says for some reason, he also survived a car explosion and he was sent flying out of it and was unarmed. So no Arthur does not take durability
Stamina: Arthur Quick Draw: John Experience: Dutch Honour: Arthur Agility: John Skills: John Strength: Arthur Accuracy: maybe Dutch Intelligence: Dutch Endurance: Arthur Combat: Arthur Durability: Arthur Feats: John Reflexes: John Dead Eye: John In a gunfight, John wins. In a fistfight, Arthur wins.
@@outlawmorgan1853 Merely a gameplay mechanic type thing to expand the game. In RDR1, John is objectively the better gunslinger. So it’s no doubt he has a better dead eye. And plus, John also has the same levels to his Dead Eye in RDR2 when you play him, so that’s how we know it’s purely a game mechanic type thing
@@amortality999 Just like I don't believe Jack is as good as John despite them playing the same in rdr1, the same goes for Arthur and John. Obviously they wouldn't downgrade the deadeye in the epilogue section of rdr2, that would just discourage players from completing the epilogue. I can see Arthur doing everything John did in rdr1 however I just don't see John surviving as long as Arthur did with TB. TB Arthur's physique is also about the same as epilogue John, what does that tell you?
@Angry Bastard Tbh Micah is pretty good at shooting but with deadeye tho, Arthur can kill anything. But if we're talking about Arthur and John without deadeye, that's a whole new outcome.
This is probably the most accurate depictions of characters skills I’ve seen rather then someone bias saying one character is better than the other because they like them
@@Artimus_Prime LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you are the single stupidest person I have ever met and im serious you're the only person to ever say that rdr2 john is better you're simple an idiot
@@bigbearzzzzzz just rifles and he got hit 7 -10 times not more man lol he still fell to the ground died instantly+ he wasn't hit in the head so he didn't instantly die Micah can get shot 6 times in the head with explosive ammo and walk it off then falls to the ground
@@Patatras_5325 no it was more than rifles, and John got shot 21 times, and he took forever to fall over. And shooting Micah in the head wit my explosive ammo obviously isn't canon
I agree with endurance but if John and Arthur weren’t there Micah would have taken it, considering it took 5 seconds for Micah to die by literally being shot in the head.😂
accuracy and quick draw goes to John, His shots hit even if your reticle is not directly aimed at the target as long as it ia close and drawing speed you can compare it
The rat of course has the one in durability since you can empty a magazine from the Mauser on his head and he's still alive. Although he does take five steps then drops dead.
PT.2?
Dutch 1911
vs
Hosea Matthews
vs
Red Harlow
vs
Landon Ricketts
Yes pls!
Red harlow negs but please make this
Yes
Add jack the swift from Red Dead Revolver. Bros insane
Nice idea
“GODDAMN STEAKS 🥩”-Dutch
i cant stop hearing it now 💀
Dosent take a genius to know he said Snakes 🐍
@@PelicanMafia I know what he said, just making a joke.
@@PelicanMafiaAlthough in your case, it takes a genius for you to know he was joking 💀
@@anakinskinwalker1724violation 😂😂
Intelligence definitely goes to Micah. He was able to play everyone and manipulate Dutch.
I agree. Not only that, but he made himself out as one of the good guys where as all along he was a bad guy.
Arthur easly saw his schemes, he's not that intelligent at all. He was controlling dutch only because of Dutch's ego.
@@-TheCapedCrusader- Arthur didn't. He just didn't like him. He only knew the schemes when he was literally revealed to be a rat. Other than that he just thought he was crazy and a dick.
@@luigi7146 Not really, he definetely saw through Micah especially after his diagnosis in chapter 6. He literally says to Micah that his whispering into Dutch's ear is what making it that bad. You need to replay the game.
@-TheCapedCrusader- you're not exactly wrong but you aren't exactly right either.. I would say if anything up until the reveal he thinks Micah is selfish crazy dick n that's he filling Dutch's head with bad ideas cuz when Milton tells him Micah has been a good boy n talked plenty Arthur is surprised and confused at first until Milton talks more.. I'd say at most before that Arthur felt bad about Molly cuz he knew she was heartbroken cuz of how Dutch treated her n wanted desperately for it to be Micah cuz he hated him n didn't trust him meanwhile Molly was a good person
Honor Goes To Arthur
It's no tb arthur he was low
@@RIPVANWINKLE22 Exactly, he didn't even care about John in Chapter 1 🤣, gave him hard time too.
@@RIPVANWINKLE22 and jhon left the gang, abigail and jack included, in fact at first he ignored the boy, and that's why arthur was angry with him at the beginning of the game.
@@Rik-Hardt1940 yeah you can see how he likes john more after the end of chapter 3 which was then when john wanted to get jack back more then i wanted to get gambler 8 done
Rdr 1 john was ruthless he captured his own friends he rode with for 13-14 years dutch teached him how to ride, read, shoot a gun, kill, hunt he used all the things he learnt from ducth to kill dutch himself for the protection of his family and some money
I think endurance such be given to Arthur because he lasted so long with TB and the poor guy was tortured, escaped and then returned to camp
John survived getting severely cut on his cheek and nose, getting shot, falling of a train, walking a very far distance injured, and after being shot in vital areas survuved for 45 seconds.
Edit: I started a war
@@Richardkitts1914 he would've died in the mountains if it weren't for Javier and Arthur, bro was barley clinging on to life. John also nearly died after getting shot in Fort Mercer
@@angrycinnamontoast794 he still went through more though
@@Richardkitts1914 and almost died while Arthur was tortured and shot by a shotgun and had to cauterize his own wound but he still got away
@@angrycinnamontoast794 thats less of a feat falling off a high speed train after you just got shot then having to limp back to camp from probably multiple miles away is way worse
I know hes a rat but dont underestimate micah
He's good, but the worst in this tournament
Worst of the best. He's not bad but I don't even think he takes endurance, I think Arthur gets that category after being kidnapped, unfed, literally shot, and with TB in his body, still survived.
He has quickdraw together with arthur
His guns are actually amazing Dutch guns looks the best of the best and Arthur boring and John even more boring
Micah was the best gun slinger man gotta rate him legitimately he would definitely give Arthur and John the run for the money
Intelligence - Micah
if Abigale didn't save Arthur he could've betrayed the entire Van Der Linde gang without anyone knowing
It's more of manipulation point than intelligence
@@IsseiSatoru that level of manipulation takes intelligence
@@wyattyxehe literally admits he's the rat as he's fighting to the death with arthur
@@wyattyxe you're right he never specifically says the word rat but he justified talking n no she wouldn't just randomly say that cuz she's drunk.. if you pay any attention to Molly through out the game it's pretty obvious her entire thing in the story is that Dutch uses her n she loves him and is starved for attention so she says some out of pocket stuff like that to finally get Dutch to pay her any level of attention.. it isn't a logical choice but it's one someone desperate for attention would make.. just probably wasn't how she wanted it to go. The only person who makes any level of sense as being secretly the rat instead of Micah is Abigail n that only makes sense if you do mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that in order to be the rat she'd be purposely putting Jack in danger.. you know... the one thing she is against entire game
@wyattyxe bud the problem is when you take even basic levels of psychology into it every argument falls apart except the Micah one.. plus if you pay attention during the confrontation at Beaver Hallow Micah looks up at the Pinkerton agents n says nothing then acts as surprised as everyone else when the pinkertons announce themselves.. Rockstar hasn't spelled it out for you cuz if you pay attention they don't need to.
Arthur = john martson> the whole rdr universe
Strange man enter in the chat*
@@user-tgapat1dtgdon't matter prime morgan and martson both solo everyone in rd verse
Harlow
@@Barutogaming12harlow no exist in rdr VERSE.
@@anthonybastos1040and he’s talking about them in their prime it’s just hypocritical
I love how people seem to forget how much of a skilled gunslinger Micah is, bro literally headshot 3 people as soon as Sean was sniped in the head
Ikr
People choose to ignore it because Micah is such an asshole but there’s no denying he’s one of the top gunslingers.
micah didint stand a chance aganist rdr2 john which was much weaker than rdr1 john and he barley beated arthur with tb arthur and john cook micah easily even dutch would solo him since he shot john in the head from very far distance with a gun and he only looked at him like 3 seconds
People just can't accept micah as skills because of the mf he is.
@@Joa_203 I mean I hate Micah too but I can respect his gun skills.
Reflexes I'd say goes to Micah. He is the only character to shoot and interrupt your deadeye. For anyone wondering, this happens in the epilogue in American venom.
He has a slower draw time than Arthur and John he just shot loads of bullets
Most definitely, People underestimate him do to the fuel of hatred.
Dutch wasn't at his peak in 1911, he was at his peak when he was young in 1880-1885, hopefully we'll see that it in rdr3
Nah Red dead redemption is about finding redemption and also the protagonist dies in the end
@@Aclipso you can say red dead 3
@@jazmynlizenbery8975 if they want to make another red dead game it wouldn't be red dead 3 it would be red dead revolver 2 or red dead something but not 3
@@Aclipso no cause it would still be part of the franchise so there’s a chance that they’ll call the red dead 3 if it’s not a redemption story
He wasn’t at his physical peak but mentally he’s the most well read and experienced right before he starts going crazy in rdr2. So let’s say 1898 to be safe.
Bro gave John honor while John shot 3 Mexicans for antagonizing him
because its arthur without tb so hes low honor
The Mexicans were demanding his belongings or else they would take them by force. John gave them a chance to stop but they didn't.
They were robbing him smart guy
@@rolfschmidtrdo84 my Arthur without TB was a fucking angel
@@roamer.edits.debt collecting
Durability definitely goes to john he survived 21 bullets for a almost a minute and survived being attacked by wolves.
This feat IS off endurance and stamina
@@anthonybastos1040no it isn’t, it’s def durability for sure or maybe endurance but he didn’t survive it
@@ztf000
This feat is of stamina and endurance.
@@anthonybastos1040 it would be endurance if he survived it, stamina wouldn’t make sense either
Micahs guns at american venom
REFLECTS JONHS DEAD EYE💀
and misses all shots🤡
@random_no_life7027 i am saying what i saw💀
@@Nick-79-29if you dont peak yea but if you do he hits you about 3-4 times of the 7-8 shots i usually hear him shoot
Ya know what? Fair! I also love the intro of Dutch calling his sons snakes, really makes it personal!
Intelligence would go to Micah, though, even though he’s the rat he is pretty smart to say the least and was able to beat John's deadeye
Honor goes to Arthur 😭
No, Arthur without TB was very ruthless and a killer.
No TB Arthur had no reason to reflect on his life at that point he's still a cold killer
Lenny!! You survived the bank robbery?
Durability goes to arthur also, bro survives crazy shit.
Nope
Durability goes to Arthur he had to and still was helping the gang
“I raised you as sons, goddamn, steaks!”
I can’t unhear it now
Uncle And Thomas solos these men 💀
Thomas downes?
@@fabilix7899 no thomas rickets
@@Gamingexpert7577 no Boatman Thomas 💀
@@-vanderlinde no thomas van der linde
@@fabilix7899 no Thomas the train
We making it out of valentine with this one boah😮💨
more like annesburg lmao
@@cwhf89 or strawberry
Blackwater ❤ scene
@@1403Anand trye
True*
I think 1911 john surpassed arthur, the man literally didn't hold a wepon for years and his aim was still crazy
Listen man. Saying rdr1 John is better than rdr2 Arthur is a stupid debate. Because in rdr1 Arthur was dead. So when you want to put Arthur against John. It's 1899 Arthur vs 1899 John. There is no 1899 Arthur vs 1911 John. Arthur would've still been better than John if he was alive till 1911
@@mzsplays true.
I mean he got his rust shaken off by the legend Landon rickets but in canon Arthur still negs john only wins in gameplay cuz of old game quirks
@@mzsplays your 100% right but im talking about the video, I don't like comparing like arthur and 1911 john or comparing verse with verse because there will be a lot of possibilities
Rockstar literally intended Arthur to be the best, meaning he was intended to surpass what we already knew about John. The fact that John is a classic shouldn’t determine his canon skill set compared to others
Intelligence to Micah. He outsmarted Dutch.
Accuracy - Micah, did you see when John was fighting him during the last mission. He was deadly accurate with dual wielding.
Micah started the fight by firing first a few bullets while john was just a few meters in front of him with no cover whatsoever and the rat still missed
@@eugeniosanapo7321 what about after that cutscene? Tho? He was very accurate with every shot. The reason why he missed up close while John was wasn’t in cover was bc first of all the game would end with John and Arthur dead. He was supposed to avenge Arthur and live for red dead 1
Dutch shot John in between the glasses of his binoculars from roughly 100m below in rdr1
@@Waltuh_put_your_dickawaywaltuh your right I forgot about that
@@eugeniosanapo7321 he was probably blind firing him. Ain’t no way a person would miss a shot like that with no distance between them.
Only scene where i respect Micah and you see that he is a true gunslinger is the one in rhodes when he headshots three guys in 3 seconds after sean is dead
Durability goes to John
And honor goes to Aurther
Giving Micah durability is crazy considering what John marathon could take
Durability goes to john
No endurance goes to john but durability goes to micah
Bro really gave micah durability instead of john😂
Micah got 6 headshots with explosive ammunition but still standing and walks for few seconds
@@mangozine8171 john got attacked by wolves shot off a moving train and walked back to camp john got shot 20+ times and stood for 30 seconds
@@mangozine8171 That’s called Endurance. Durability is the ability to survive a severe injury or any kind of damage.
@@MrTesterr he did it in separate times, still John can't survive 6 headshots with explosive ammunition shot from a Schofield Revolver or more shot in a volcanic pistol
@@outlawsforlife7916 that's exactly what I was explaining, he survived an extremely severe injury for a few seconds
i only disagree with the quickdraw, if we are talking about bringing out weapons faster, i will sadly have to give it to micah, because within a half a second he shot the guy who killed sean
Within half of a second we can kill 10 men as Arthur or John with Deadeye. Micah is fast, but protagonist Deadeye is stupid OP
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Arthur pull out his gun before Micah at the last mission.
@@visionviber271 but who died?
@@visionviber271 Yes
@@hungry_rambler Who was already 90% dead from Tuberculosis and without a weapon in the final fight?
We makin it out of guarma with tis 🗣️📰💯🔥
We making it to Tahiti with this 🗣️🇵🇫💯🔥
@@mzsplays but why, we can harvest mangoes here
Undervaluing Micah’s gunslinging ability so hard. In American venom he proved to have deadeye faster then John’s and after Sean’s death he immediatley located to sniper and killed three men before Sean hit the floor. Id give him reflexes and QuickDraw.
John Martson & Arthur Morgan both are GOATS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Arthur and John will have best team
YAY MY FAVORITE RUclipsR GIVED ME HEART!!!
The most perfect edit possible that makes Arthur and John gems in the possible outcome
I love how the edit is made like they are speaking with each other.
What a fire edit🔥
I got goosebumps
Keep up mate
Edit is fire and also battle is legendary👑
Dutch definitely deserves the accuracy point. That binoculars shot in rdr1 was crazy!
I don’t think he was aiming for the binoculars
Honor goes to Arthur because after he got tb he realized his time was ending and he tries to be the best man possible if you play high honor
accuracy goes to micah
Nah micah didn't shoot someone 2 mountains away with the least accurate gun in both of the games dutch did lol
John was on an elevated position as he stared Dutch with a scope, Dutch took one look at his direction and shot John with an ironsight pistol.
Dutch sins by a longshot... literally a longshot
Accuracy goes to Micah, what he did at Rhodes was insane.
Dutch hits some crazy shots too like against the Braithwaites and also shooting John's binoculars from like 70m away
There's no denying that Arthur Morgan and John Marston are one of the best video game duos.
Casually dropping the hardest edit to exist
No way you can give dutch intelligence when bro loses his mind in 1911
Accurate edit
Micah has the most insane reflexes
GODDAMN STEAKS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣Flipping legendary 😂😂
Why does this make me wanna play it all over again!!!
nice edit
John needs to win QuickDraw just bc of how many ppl you can duel in rdr1
Yh but arthur duels (and beats) 4 legendary gunslingers so...
@@ManUFan2008and is faster (200millisecond draw speed) compared to John's slow ass draw in duels
Uncle without lumbago 🗿🥶🔥
People don't wanna give Micah any credit because people hate him so much on God 😂
Points :
Strength : Arthur
Iq : Micah
Experience : Dutch
Endurance : John
Special Points :
*Honour : Arthur*
*Manipulation : Micah*
*Gunslinger : John*
*The Snake : Dutch*
I’d say Dutch gets manipulation too
IQ to Micah. He straight up manipulated the entire gang including Dutch.
I think reaction time goes to Micah as after Sean gets shot Micah kills 3 grays before Sean’s body hits the ground, that is actually crazy.
John realistically beats arthur Morgan.
Arthur chapter 2 wins John
Cap Arthur is older and more experienced plus he was able to kill famous gunslinger like Billy midnight Falco and the other guy where he put a dyminte in shit also was able to fight Michel while being sick and dying
@cesarajanel8746 John can do thoes quests to he is just as powerful
As arthur in Arthur's game maybe even more. so obviously john 1911 Vs Arthur Chapter 2 1899 would be a Win for john
Arthur negs john fankids
The only reason micah got durability is because hr could still walk for a moment after getting short like 12 times at the end of the game
John has a similar feat, he stood up right for roughly the same amount of time after being turned into swiss cheese. But I still think Arthur is also a strong contender for that category.
John got shot by like 15 people😂 and stood there for a couple seconds. Micah's gets shot 12 times by one dude and falls over.😂
Uncle getting shot and standing up for as long as he did is a bigger feat than Micah's imo
@@staple_boithat's not durability that's endurance if we're talking about durability Arthur takes it he got shot by a Shogun close to his chest and he also got shot by rifle 3 times and got torched throughout the game multiple times and got shipwrecked and still survived that John only got shot he has never went through being torched or being shipwrecked while being sick Arthur takes durability
@@Drexzzz4that both. Realistically if John was shot that many times with reapters or shotguns, he limbs would have shot out, but they weren’t, another durability feat that John has but no says for some reason, he also survived a car explosion and he was sent flying out of it and was unarmed. So no Arthur does not take durability
Endurance goes to Arthur, bruh had TB and folded everyone till his last breath
All gang members = Micah
Stamina: Arthur
Quick Draw: John
Experience: Dutch
Honour: Arthur
Agility: John
Skills: John
Strength: Arthur
Accuracy: maybe Dutch
Intelligence: Dutch
Endurance: Arthur
Combat: Arthur
Durability: Arthur
Feats: John
Reflexes: John
Dead Eye: John
In a gunfight, John wins.
In a fistfight, Arthur wins.
I Agree with most of these but how does deadeye go to John if Arthur unlocks more advanced deadeye levels than rdr1 John?
@@outlawmorgan1853 Merely a gameplay mechanic type thing to expand the game.
In RDR1, John is objectively the better gunslinger. So it’s no doubt he has a better dead eye.
And plus, John also has the same levels to his Dead Eye in RDR2 when you play him, so that’s how we know it’s purely a game mechanic type thing
@@amortality999 Just like I don't believe Jack is as good as John despite them playing the same in rdr1, the same goes for Arthur and John. Obviously they wouldn't downgrade the deadeye in the epilogue section of rdr2, that would just discourage players from completing the epilogue. I can see Arthur doing everything John did in rdr1 however I just don't see John surviving as long as Arthur did with TB. TB Arthur's physique is also about the same as epilogue John, what does that tell you?
@@outlawmorgan1853 It tells me that Arthur wins a fistfight but not a gunfight.
@@amortality999 Okay sure but do you really think Jack is as good as John just because they play the same?
Underrated af
@Angry Bastard tbh he did give fair things instead of just saying stuff like “ the protagonist” or “ Arthur Morgan”
@Angry Bastard Tbh Micah is pretty good at shooting but with deadeye tho, Arthur can kill anything. But if we're talking about Arthur and John without deadeye, that's a whole new outcome.
How is nobody talking about Dutch getting deadeye when we don’t even know he has it.
Dead eye is arthur
Dead Eye goes John Marston 1911
Arthur and john have the same quicdraw time at 30 milliseconds
This is probably the most accurate depictions of characters skills I’ve seen rather then someone bias saying one character is better than the other because they like them
Arthur Would Definitely Win This One
Proof: Trust me bro
@@Aclipso your proof: JOHN BROOOOOO
@@Artimus_Prime you don't have any proof and I literally just called you out for it
@@Aclipso I do
Arthur>>>>Rdr2 John
Rdr2 John>>>Rdr1 John
@@Artimus_Prime LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you are the single stupidest person I have ever met and im serious you're the only person to ever say that rdr2 john is better you're simple an idiot
🔥🔥🔥
John and Arthur are the perfect duo
Rat goes to Micah
John takes dura, but W, and John slightly takes it
Micah survives 6 headshots man john gets shot once and is almost dead
@@Patatras_5325 John in 1911 took 20+ shots, from rifles, shotguns, pistols, etc, and was standing for 30 seconds
@@bigbearzzzzzz just rifles and he got hit 7 -10 times not more man lol he still fell to the ground died instantly+ he wasn't hit in the head so he didn't instantly die Micah can get shot 6 times in the head with explosive ammo and walk it off then falls to the ground
@@Patatras_5325 no it was more than rifles, and John got shot 21 times, and he took forever to fall over. And shooting Micah in the head wit my explosive ammo obviously isn't canon
John takes durability
Micah takes endsurance
dutch is a cold killer in 1911 i mean he literally saw john from above and shot his binoculars
Doesn’t John have a quicker draw
Yes
@@CrownerasedArthur outdrew Micah john couldn't do that in 1907
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@@Crownerasedjust because john is badass in rdr2 he didn't even kill micah in 1899 in the first with arthur
@@VergilGod it's only facts. John was going to surpass Arthur eventually
Howd u give honor to john bro
Yeah john doesn't give a damn about his honor he has done evil things for his family
@@Patatras_5325 Arthurs worse he only helped save John cus he was dying and John had a family
@@cosmicwatur715 he still had honor and saw the error of his way and got his redemption tho
Cause this is no tb Arthur and no tb Arthur is low honor
dutch is by far the coldest
Arthur Morgan vs John Marston vs Hosea vs Lenny please
John was literally trained by Landon Rickets, the best gunslinger in the entirety of RDR2.
Finally Micah had none now he has some
I agree with endurance but if John and Arthur weren’t there Micah would have taken it, considering it took 5 seconds for Micah to die by literally being shot in the head.😂
Arthur Morgan without TB and John Marston 1911 is undefeatable.
Dead eye goes to John
Micah : gunslinging
Arthur : bare hand fight
John : knife 🔪 fight
Dutch: falling off cliffs
Честь Артура и Джона разная у каждого игрока,непродуманное сравнение
Quick draw goes to John because he's been taught by ricketts
Honor should go to Dutch, because he had God Damn Faith
Imagine if we had a choice to rescue Micah from strawberry
John definitely should have had durability with the amount of bullets he took in his last moments and was still standing
Durability goes to john cuz he didn't fall for seconds after getting shot 20+ times
Stamina-John 😂😂😂 He can't swim
accuracy and quick draw goes to John, His shots hit even if your reticle is not directly aimed at the target as long as it ia close and drawing speed you can compare it
Accuracy def goes to Micah, he was able to get 3 headshots in a row after Sean died
Quickdraw goes to Micah, it's literally his #1 skill
Video quality is SO DAM GOOD ❤❤❤❤
Accuracy goes to micah as when sean was killed he found out where the sniper was and hit 3 consecutive headshots before he even hit the ground
The rat of course has the one in durability since you can empty a magazine from the Mauser on his head and he's still alive. Although he does take five steps then drops dead.
Durability goes John
Arthur and John goes CRAZY
Feats and Honor to Arthur
Durability to John
All of them goes to John 😂
@@backlandjbreaker24 no