Starting the GN "Hustle Muscle" SD45 (Original EMD 20-645E)
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Filmed May 14, 2016
MTM's engineer Dan Lindfors starts up the first production SD45 made by EMD.
GN 400 was built in May 1966. At 3,600 horsepower, it was given the nickname "Hustle Muscle" (the only locomotive to get this name).
400 was retired from the BN (as #6430) in 1986. It was donated to GNRHS and restored in 1989, and later, 2006.
It resided in St. Paul, MN at the former GN roundhouse. During the summers of 2015 and 2016, it operated alongside cousin SDP40 #325 on the Osceola & St. Croix Valley Railway.
Temperatures on this day of filming were in the low 30s, and 400, like 325, are a little smokey when they start in cold temps.
**UPDATE** As of April 2019, Hustle Muscle received an overhauled SD45-2 20-645E and is again in operating condition after her original 20-645E was damaged from a crankshaft failure in 2017.***
1960's locomotive version of the "HEMI."
traingp7 Oh wow, it does have that hemi lope...
No you have the wrong company this is the locomotive version of a 454 LS6
@@bwallace5945 more like the 1960s L88 427 the sd60 or 70 would be the LS6 454
I had the chance to operate this engine twice between Denver and Pueblo on the Joint Line.If I recall, these ex GN engines were only 368,000 lbs.Real lite for a 6 Axle engine.Constant wheel slip light flickering, then, wheel slide light flickering while in dynamic braking down from Palmer Lake.They might have been flat land screamers, but mountain goats they were not.
Up until her crankshaft incident, the 400 would wheel slip with only a half-dozen passenger cars on 0.7% grade, she wanted to take off really fast.
Very cool they were equipped with low idle or was just added later
Interesting point was that when introduced, these locomotives were tested on the Northern Pacific. NP was _not_ impressed. They slipped and slid all over Stampede Pass. GE U28Cs could outpull them handily. This was due to the GE's having wheelslip control on each axle, whereas EMD cheapened out an did whole truck wheelslip. NP told EMD to take their sliders back or do what GE was doing. EMD first refused, then realized they couldn't afford to lose a valuable customer. Finally, they adopted a per-axle wheelslip system, and NP crews loved the SD45 thereafter, terming them "bearcats".
@@deadfreightwest5956 Thanks for your reply, it was great info. Power to weight ratio is also very important as well as wheel slip control. Even the best slips up once in a while.
@@deadfreightwest5956 surprised that they didn't use the HT trucks like they did on the SD 40-2's
I love the startup sounds and idle of these Engine
Drove that a few times in my career......great puller....nice to see it restored.
Its original 20-645 is being replaced with an overalled SD45-2 20-645. Its crankshaft was shattered in a BNSF load test last spring.
“Her original 20-645 damaged by crankshaft failure 2017”
That’s why the 20 cylinder engines were known as “The Whip”. The crankshafts were too long, and one reason why EMD introduced the 16-710 to get more power.
One silver lining is it demonstrates how/why the railroads have evolved their horsepower needs.
Or that EMD didn't reinforce the crankshaft for this intensive high strain application, because engines of this size and caliber do tend to break things without anyone's notice.
I love this video. This video actually inspired an impulse purchase of an N-scale version of this unit. Which I did a video on. I linked your video in the description of mine. Hopefully it'll send a few views your way.
The 20 cylinder version seems to sound different than the 16 cylinder when idling. Also I like where they keep the spare coupler knuckles on this big girl.
beautiful sound. awesome.
Nice catch I love the sound of the prime mover....
+Johnny's Train Videos that's one of the first turbocharged prime movers right there :)
What do you mean? The 567 was turbocharged
Alco's had turbos far earlier, before EMD.
Love the video North land Trains
Wow. I know it's been restored, but that thing is immaculate for a 50 odd year old, what was, a hard working machine. 20 years of hard service and it's like brand new. Probably better.
She had some minor hiccups here and there, until recently, she went to BNSF for regular maintenance and she had a triple crankshaft break during load testing, so she's out of service indefinitely.
Keon's Trains It was only a matter of time before the shaft shattered. That is and was a known issue with the design. I don't doubt it will get the 645 from that SD45-2, as that will fix the crankshaft vulnerability issue permanently.
I loved the sound of the emd sd45 20 645 cyl, the cyl stud nuts were torqued at 2400 lbs
The GM 645,the MOST REBUILT engine in history.
Yep, they just continue to live on. Very hard to kill one. Although EMD tried really hard when they came out with this 20 cylinder version. Lots of issues with crankshaft and engine block failures. A bunch of them were swapped out for 16-645's and re-designated SD40M
Nobody:
EMD engines: Ying Ying Ying Ying Ying
Wait a minute.......an EMD 20-645 prime mover? I thought they were the stuff of legends and myths! Such a rare creature!
EMD tried the 20 cylinder approach again with the 710 series and so far that one hasn't had crankshaft issues
Awesome sound of the 20-645.
It has a new 20-645 now, I heard it idling after the engine swap and it sounded better than the original.
@@NorthlandTrains That's great!
...that is a frickin' beautiful machine...
It really is.
BEAUTIFUL !!! SOUND!!!!
indeed!
Man that thing sounds badass
That beater drag strip 3/4 race cam though...
James J. Hill .......good Canadian kid🇨🇦🇺🇸
I once jump started an SD40-2 using my toyota tacoma and pro grade jumper cables.
interesting!
And now, Northern Pacific SD45 3617 is also playing the rails again under its own power!
eagerly looking forward to the opportunity to see it in action.
Sure hope they get her up and running again!!
So far all is well, BNSF donated an SD45-2, which is now in Topeka for a rebuild, it will then have it's parts (and prime mover) taken out, shipped back to Minneapolis and installed into the 400.
Keon's Trains Oh wow, excellent news! Thanks for the update!
You're welcome, we're hoping it's done by next season
Keon's Trains One of these days I'll get up there and pay a visit!
Be happy to have you ride with us!
Beautiful!!
certainly is
That's awesome very cool video!
+BNSFguy 617 thanks
Wow!!! That was quick and easy. Not crank, crank, crank, crank, crank........
Pretty cool
Ive never seen an emd burn that much oil ever.
That was among its many problems, filters were constantly clogged, GNRHS pretty much refused to admit 400 needed any attention... "oh it's good to go, flawless"
Quickly start,,some clag but when the engine warms,,clag attenuates a lot
Yeah, once at temperature she was good to go, but we'll see how her new 20-645 is once it's installed since BNSF shattered the crankshaft on the one heard in the video
Nice!
thanks
What if we could retrofit 2 20-645s to the inside to a DD40AX... that would be interesting with 7200 horses.
that would be a lot of work, and I'm not sure how many 20-645s remain out there.
why? isn't the 1 of the DD40AX's still being used
5oM3duD3 yes but they will never do anything to it unless they had to
@@blackbirdgaming8147 Half a dozen mostly complete but inoperable DDA40X units remain, but aside from the astronomical cost and limited use case, you'd have difficulty fitting a pair of 20-cylinder engines into a unit built for two 16-cylinder prime movers. You'd probably end up having to delete important equipment to make the larger engine blocks fit...
Mazel tov!
HUSTLE MUSCLE!!!!!!!!!!
Yep, you can find it in Duluth these days operating occasionally.
It wasn't smoking like that when I saw it at the EMD open house years ago
Decades of no use didn't help, hopefully its new engine (once put in) is a well behaved one.
@@NorthlandTrains why is it getting a new engine?
Who owns that loco? BNSF? or private or what?
It's owned by the Great Northern Railway Historical Society, it's maintained by BNSF, and leased to the Minnesota Transportation Museum for excursion service to keep it in working condition
Great! Thanks for the info... I have always loved this engine... but never knew who operated it, since there are no "call letters" on the side (i.e. BNSF). So when not in excursion service is it displayed in the MT Museum?
***** during the summer it rests on the track next to the depot until we use it (early summer and October). And in the winter it is at the great northern roundhouse (MTM) on display.
It's call letters are GN, just as it was in it's heyday :)
Very nice... thanks for the info! :)
***** no problem, you're invited to come ride with us sometime!
Is the (2018-2019) rebuild finished?, was it the valves that needed repair?
The entire engine is being replaced because the crankshaft shattered in numerous places, that rebuild (replacement) is happening right now.
@@NorthlandTrains oh ok, that is a major rebuild. i had seen that you had commented on the face book page about it being at north town yard, was it being shipped somewhere for the rebuild?
the rebuild was at Northtown, I saw it outside just the other day, so I *think* its done and ready to return "home".
@@NorthlandTrains Hmm, road trip?. I was there the previous week. I wondering if i am able to get a photo of it there.
How much fuel do these use at idle? 20-30 galllons an hour i assume
Actually with three passenger runs with 8 coaches uphill, we might burn 50-100 gallons all day (10+ hours)
when did the 710 come in
Tiger Rule Came in the 80s when EMD realized they had dun goofed by trying to push the 645 to its limit.
Latios Gaming *COUGH* SD50 *COUGH*
when you got it was it in BN?
It was in BN when first donated from the BN in the 80s. It was repainted GN in 1989, and repainted a second time in 2006.
Belching exhaust.
More please, and the start up