Warframe: More HUGE Buffs in Game. Chroma, Nezha Nuke, Dante, Overguard & More Line Of Sight Changes

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  • @jamesaditya5254
    @jamesaditya5254 Месяц назад +289

    This is how it's supposed to be, when new content brings to light an underlying problem you improve the game instead of accepting those problems as features of your game

    • @breakthecode4634
      @breakthecode4634 Месяц назад +4

      No they still haven't fixed shit. Don't listen to the community, And these changes should have been forever ago.

    • @D4nK0d2
      @D4nK0d2 Месяц назад

      ​@@breakthecode4634are you dense? Please go play literally and I mean literally any game in the world out right now and see if any of them respond to issues brought up by the community in less than a fucking week time, let alone live, with chat, not ignoring the hard questions that might pop up. Warframe playerbase is fucking insufferable on social media holy shit.

    • @fenchellforelle
      @fenchellforelle Месяц назад +42

      @@breakthecode4634
      "Dont listen to the community"
      yes how dare people praise a good change as much as they shun bad ones, I truly just cannot stand people having a reasonable take on things rather than reveling in blind hatred!

    • @Psion_Phoenix
      @Psion_Phoenix Месяц назад +23

      @@breakthecode4634then don’t play the game? I hate people like you who ONLY EVER comment on negative things instead of acknowledging the good things too. They’ve got things to sort yes, but they are sorting things.
      Bloody “arm chair developers” have no idea how much work goes into just the tiniest of changes from having to navigate millions if not billions of lines of code, billions of possible interactions of said code, then requiring to test changes and fixes, then requiring authorisation from Xbox and PlayStation before they can even push those changes out on consoles.

    • @breakthecode4634
      @breakthecode4634 Месяц назад +2

      @Psion_Phoenix good assumption? I praise when needed but if nobody complains things stay the same. You make 0 sense.

  • @1110jesse
    @1110jesse Месяц назад +280

    "the community wants their bad dragon" broke me so hard XD

    • @2kokex
      @2kokex Месяц назад +10

      Just like that bad dragon, huh?

    • @akoslazar9005
      @akoslazar9005 Месяц назад +2

      Well I certaintly wouldnt mind

    • @13g0man
      @13g0man Месяц назад +2

      I've heard that there are plenty of videos about a bad dragon available, however last time I tried to search for them there was a meeting with my boss, HR and IT.

    • @rift7609
      @rift7609 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@13g0man Did you get a raise, or beaten and fired?

  • @Hawk-Eye-bs2hr
    @Hawk-Eye-bs2hr Месяц назад +65

    Replacing Chroma's 4th with the ability to turn into an Orowrym would be lovely.

    • @kingoffire105
      @kingoffire105 Месяц назад +2

      I want that SO BADLY!! Or at least a dragon in some way or form!

    • @unittool2098
      @unittool2098 Месяц назад +2

      Chroma could be bombastic if he did change into a big ass OROWYRM

    • @kingoffire105
      @kingoffire105 Месяц назад

      @@unittool2098 Totally, sounds very fun too!

  • @DrUber-kh9io
    @DrUber-kh9io Месяц назад +145

    "The comunity wants their bad dragon." More than you know, Potato, more than you know...

    • @RebelOfTheNorm242
      @RebelOfTheNorm242 Месяц назад +4

      Still my main frame...idk why, but I love drago boy

    • @kingoffire105
      @kingoffire105 Месяц назад +2

      @@RebelOfTheNorm242 Well he is awesome and adorable! But he is really cool! But sadly needs a more draconic rework.

    • @DragonKing_GRAgni
      @DragonKing_GRAgni Месяц назад

      Agreed! Our dragon boi needs to show his true colors!

    • @kingoffire105
      @kingoffire105 Месяц назад

      @@DragonKing_GRAgni Indeed yes!

    • @DragonKing_GRAgni
      @DragonKing_GRAgni Месяц назад

      @@kingoffire105 like chroma is a DRAGON! I want to see some DESTRUCTION!!!! RRRAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

  • @1000HoursAtTheLibrar
    @1000HoursAtTheLibrar Месяц назад +83

    LOS would be a nice change for Vauben. No more annoying sucking them in a weird hard to reach spots on certain tile sets.

    • @RebelOfTheNorm242
      @RebelOfTheNorm242 Месяц назад +14

      Yeah...giving a suck in weird places only works when getting paid for it.

    • @SolidNitrox
      @SolidNitrox Месяц назад +4

      I feel like LOS is appropriate for CC but not nukes.

    • @dinomite29
      @dinomite29 Месяц назад +1

      Dude I think you should reword your comment 😂

    • @MrHeiska01
      @MrHeiska01 Месяц назад +5

      @@SolidNitrox Nukes need LOS or massive range nerf.

    • @SolidNitrox
      @SolidNitrox Месяц назад +3

      @@MrHeiska01 well they need to treat every single one the same then. If they had a perfectly functional LOS we would be able to work with it. Dante was not superior to the other nukes. My Mirage nukes the map with 2 separate abilities. Remember how they screwed Ember but kept all the other nukes? I compare LOS in here to OW2 LOS. That game is a shiny turd, but their LOS is incredible. Any gap in the fence, stairs, under a shield, of any single point of the hotbox is exposed you get tagged, it also has body punch through so no hiding behind a meat shield. Warframe is a larger scale game with what I assume much more particle interactions. As it stands their LOS is still crap even after the fix. I would have been fine with a 25% nerf in base range over something that consistently misses targets.

  • @jellosnackbar5273
    @jellosnackbar5273 Месяц назад +33

    Last time people got mad like this it was for Styanax removing his ability to cast his 4th in the air over and over again, along with multicasting during his ultimate.

    • @rob679
      @rob679 Месяц назад +1

      Nah, it was Vivergate first and then Khora Whipclaw

    • @Wooskii1
      @Wooskii1 Месяц назад

      I was one of the mad players, Flyanax became my favorite frame day one. He was Soo good- Using all abilities while flying around like a helicopter and seamlessly chaining between that RTS overview, operator dashing, and frame run and gun was my personal top Warframe highlight. I know people say it was OP, but that was before the invincible overgaurd augment and it was still easy to get popped out of the air. Simple solution- No shield gate while in 4. The AoE nerf taking all the attention didn't help either...
      Now that I've been playing long enough I learned my lesson, I know DE's pattern, and won't sink my time & forma into the newest frame.

  • @reddydc5562
    @reddydc5562 Месяц назад +28

    They really went nuts with those first nerfs, like some other game studio snuck in was making these changes. Glad to see they've returned to their senses

    • @lazylars5176
      @lazylars5176 Месяц назад

      I believe they were afraid it ll ruin the new game mode, thats why they were harsh nerfed and delivered so fast

    • @Seoul_Soldier
      @Seoul_Soldier Месяц назад +5

      @@lazylars5176 The new game mode is a shitty version of circuit anyways.

  • @permeus2nd
    @permeus2nd Месяц назад +24

    3:16 I’ve been saying for a while they need to change stuff that says HP or shield damage to just say damage as there are far too meny ways that other frames can brake someone else’s build without meaning too.

  • @demonhunterx7094
    @demonhunterx7094 Месяц назад +19

    I personally don't mind LoS as a mechanic, but it desperately needed some changes.

    • @Seoul_Soldier
      @Seoul_Soldier Месяц назад

      I might LoS in Warframe, because even with these changes it still sucks ass.

  • @stevehoodiman
    @stevehoodiman Месяц назад +96

    I've been playing Warframe since 2013. DE has been bringing an awesome experience for over a decade. They've been doing a great job. It's a relationship, kind of, and nobody is perfect but still going to support them and stay for as long as they keep this great game going.

    • @frederickdawson2253
      @frederickdawson2253 Месяц назад +14

      I get what you're saying but the reason the outrage gets worse every time is that DE makes the exact same mistakes. It getting infuriating. Even Rebecca on Devshorts admitted they do the same things. So I do think the hate is deserved during those periods but yes the game has been consistently getting better.. long as they stay humble

    • @jouille4524
      @jouille4524 Месяц назад

      no way you're sucking them off after the dante nerfs lmao

    • @blakwater777
      @blakwater777 Месяц назад +1

      Truth!

    • @ragingmonkey4592
      @ragingmonkey4592 Месяц назад +6

      @@frederickdawson2253 Yeah, but honestly most of the things people get outraged about are kinda stupid, This was the first one in a while that has actually warranted the reaction that it got, so it definitely goes both ways. I tend to agree with OP, they always try to keep a good relationship with us and listen to us. Even if the changes take years to happen, this game is the best it's ever been

    • @VandashStumpedKnee
      @VandashStumpedKnee Месяц назад

      Mid 2015 for me

  • @doctor-z-deadline8500
    @doctor-z-deadline8500 Месяц назад +7

    Chroma was my first ever prime Warframe, PLS de give him his well deserved rework 🙏

  • @SwiftrunnerXXY
    @SwiftrunnerXXY Месяц назад +29

    I remember blind mirage back before it was nerfed to a line-of-sight effect. You built for max range and duration, cast it, popped it, and everything in range got hard CC-ed by the blind. Trivialized literally everything, you could lock down multiple rooms simultaneously. While nobody likes their builds being nerfed, there needs to be some restrictions, or else everything quickly becomes unfun from lack of challenge.

    • @decepticonsoundwave297
      @decepticonsoundwave297 Месяц назад +6

      Yeah, blind nerfs might have been necessary for for Mirage, but it feels like they killed Muzzle Flash builds

    • @aw0573
      @aw0573 Месяц назад

      Yep, totally agree here

    • @gilot19
      @gilot19 Месяц назад +1

      Yup, specially for other players

    • @Seoul_Soldier
      @Seoul_Soldier Месяц назад +2

      The funny thing is, playing on Public is unfun anyways. 90% of people you meet are running low-effort room clearing shit so why even nerf anything?

    • @MrOrdosan
      @MrOrdosan Месяц назад +1

      ya. its a thing that people dont seem to understand, at how Toxic this can be for the games health. (course for somereason people always correct me that toxin isnt a strong stat so it makes no since)
      like its the same reason they removed the ability to just afk play the game. and not having LOS on certain skills means either they ruin the flow of the game as everything in a quarter mile radius that you didnt even know WAS on the map dies...or the range/damage of said skill gets nutered so bad it just stops being fun to play.

  • @urulai
    @urulai Месяц назад +8

    Some abilities having Line of Sight makes sense, where as for others it doesn't so I'm frankly in the middle on the subject it depends on the power. LOS is a good way to keep certain, very powerful effects in check. For CC focused abilities I'd say LOS should be discarded. For abilities with a balance of damage and CC LOS should really be a thing much either. But for full damage I'd say LOS should DEFINITELY be a thing, as long as it makes sense.

  • @Cype9k
    @Cype9k Месяц назад +151

    Funny how none of these buffs would've ever happened if DE just had the foresight to make Overguard work with Rage/Hunter Adrenaline lmao

    • @avikde9631
      @avikde9631 Месяц назад +3

      well the only silver lining out of this fiasco

    • @NorthInium
      @NorthInium Месяц назад +19

      The problem they have is all the bloat that builds up over time.
      We have so much content, so many mods, so many interactions etc.

    • @Horvath_Gabor
      @Horvath_Gabor Месяц назад +10

      @@NorthInium And so many of them are either redundant, pointless, or only exists for a single grind before being cast aside and never re-visited. Damn, now that I think about, it's been easily at least two or three years since I've last done any open-world content (outside of the occassional Riven challenge requiring entering one), and I haven't touched Duviri since last summer...

    • @richardwhite3521
      @richardwhite3521 Месяц назад +7

      @@Horvath_GaborI’ve only been playing for a two months, already mastery 24. :-) and I’m still very much enjoying all of the open world content and miscellaneous bloat. That’s what it’s for. :-)

    • @RetroReaper151
      @RetroReaper151 Месяц назад

      @@Horvath_Gabor please shut the hell up and keep your dumbass opinions to yourself

  • @VOODOOREIGN1
    @VOODOOREIGN1 Месяц назад

    Thanks for keeping us updated!!!

  • @jamesrule1338
    @jamesrule1338 Месяц назад +19

    Overall happy with the fixes. Also happy with the speed of how fast they fixed things (especially considering how fast they nerfed things). Haven't noticed any issues with LoS with Dante thus far (did notice his abilities were killing blokes through walls on the Mars tile set. Don't tell DE).

    • @Hawk-Eye-bs2hr
      @Hawk-Eye-bs2hr Месяц назад +2

      Bungo would take FOREVER to fix their nerfs *ahem* nova warp.

    • @Seoul_Soldier
      @Seoul_Soldier Месяц назад

      Dante can LoS his own Tragedy. It still isn't fixed.

    • @jamesrule1338
      @jamesrule1338 Месяц назад

      @@Seoul_Soldier hasn't happened to me yet. I'll keep trying though.

  • @Ryansito_BA
    @Ryansito_BA Месяц назад +6

    Vivergate comes to mind with the backlash from last week. Shoutouts if you remember that ✌🏻

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Месяц назад +3

      Vivergate brings back memories... simpler times lol

  • @beseakos
    @beseakos Месяц назад +8

    Nezha is finally alive and well. I run a 95% base strength precision intensify max range build now with extra casting speed from natural talent currently and it feels almost as good as the old one without feeling the guilt of clearing the whole map. 6 metres lost in range is totally justifiable compared to the pathetic 25 metres total after mods.

    • @hollisharrington4061
      @hollisharrington4061 Месяц назад

      Agreed. It's fun clearing trash mobs while eximus units balance it out a bit. My kpm is still lower than Saryn but more in line with other nuke options.

    • @landonburkett5460
      @landonburkett5460 Месяц назад

      @@hollisharrington4061 can’t lie nezha is better than Dante nd Saryn more dmg dealt nd I average almost 700 kills in 5 mins

    • @alejandrorojano3606
      @alejandrorojano3606 Месяц назад

      Definably looking forward to making a second build to try this Aug. My first build I used safeguard was my eidalon/standard build for everything.
      Yes I use nezha and felarx for the three titans on the plains😅

  • @basedx.
    @basedx. Месяц назад +9

    3:37 💀

  • @Endymion0021
    @Endymion0021 Месяц назад +4

    If they can't get on a cohesive path for line of sight or not, maybe do a corrupt dragon key shieldgate fix approach, have a mod that gives Abilities "punch through".

    • @valyyk3627
      @valyyk3627 Месяц назад

      I honestly reeeally like the sound of this

  • @franciscofuentes8431
    @franciscofuentes8431 Месяц назад +30

    So, DE is not talking about Caliban? the forgotten frame I see....

    • @wyrowood3490
      @wyrowood3490 Месяц назад +6

      Joining revenant

    • @adrianfajardoperez8162
      @adrianfajardoperez8162 Месяц назад +12

      Nyx: XD

    • @thomaatoes2874
      @thomaatoes2874 Месяц назад +3

      we wait for tenno con. pablo may have some things to say as mentioned in devstream 178

    • @chungo2548
      @chungo2548 Месяц назад +2

      Caliban works pretty well but I think they're just using that as an excuse to ignore him for now, but there def are frames that need help before caliban does

    • @GrimViridian
      @GrimViridian Месяц назад +19

      ​@@wyrowood3490wym revenant is great especially compared to caliban

  • @fr0stw0lf97
    @fr0stw0lf97 Месяц назад +5

    Ow if Pablo would be the one to rework Chroma then OMG I can finally come back to him

  • @Ramxenoc
    @Ramxenoc Месяц назад

    god damn I love Warframe and thank you Tactical Potato for just being a content creator for it. You and the other consistent mainstays help to make this game what it is. Without you guys a lot of us would be clueless

  • @kaiowasdeath
    @kaiowasdeath Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for taking your time and putting the effort to keep us updated, Tater! You are the true hero we got but not deserve.

  • @rushobinnabi3684
    @rushobinnabi3684 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the informative video, Tater. I always love the funny moments in the beginning of your videos. 😊

  • @DizzyGorgon
    @DizzyGorgon Месяц назад +1

    Aight....while i was heavy against the dante nerf...i am for heavy duty balance, so hearing that line of sight is getting a look over may change warframes gameplay loop...waiting to see if other abilities get the line of sight treatment where there were none..

  • @DamienValentineKoguntetzu
    @DamienValentineKoguntetzu Месяц назад

    Just noticed that the thumbnail had a black and red Chroma. Bad Dragon indeed.

  • @RobertNave-id2xp
    @RobertNave-id2xp Месяц назад

    Has anyone else found strange transmissions in the codex under the "Grineer" fragment?

  • @Kuldirongaze1
    @Kuldirongaze1 Месяц назад

    What about Styanax? The line of sign issue on his #1 feels bad as it doesn't group enemies if they are hiding behind a pebble on the ground.

  • @alucard4860
    @alucard4860 Месяц назад +1

    Los really needed this upgrade.

  • @dragonriderabens9761
    @dragonriderabens9761 Месяц назад +28

    I actually DO remember the last time that much anger was directed at DE
    the Wukong/AoE reworks
    remember how all the Chinese gold farming bots review bombed the game into mostly negative for recent reviews?
    yeah...there was A LOT of anger...but 90% of people didn't take it seriously, and for good reason.
    because anyone who actually PLAYED the game was not hardly effected

    • @21o36
      @21o36 Месяц назад

      Does it really matter if they were Chinese bots or not? Botting is botting regardless of who does it.

    • @EsperSpirit
      @EsperSpirit Месяц назад +6

      ​@@21o36 It matters because they have a different culture when it comes to botting and exploiting games and also their sheer number that goes largely unnoticed in the west until they start sabotaging the game (e. g. via review bombing).

    • @21o36
      @21o36 Месяц назад

      @@EsperSpirit it’s ignorant to assume there’s a reasonable cause to specify ethnicity when it’s no secret that a lot of people like to use that excuse to secretly feed racist undertones about Chinese people and culture.

    • @EsperSpirit
      @EsperSpirit Месяц назад

      @@21o36 It has nothing to do with racism when the review bombing was in fact mostly done by Chinese players/botters.
      Ironically, trying to forbid mentioning something bad happened is exactly what China loves to do, so you're not helping your cause at all here. Tiananmen Square ring any bells?

    • @John-Alighieri
      @John-Alighieri Месяц назад

      ​@@21o36Cry me a river ccp shill.

  • @ReeceRacc
    @ReeceRacc Месяц назад +1

    They need to fix the line of sight on Slash Dash. It doesn't chain if there's even a slight incline

  • @johndoe-qn2mm
    @johndoe-qn2mm Месяц назад

    Only time I used chroma was for PT. I'm annoyed to change out a years old standard. But, I might use him more now. Might

  • @SniperWolf0225
    @SniperWolf0225 Месяц назад +1

    Being a Chroma main - (Still hoping DE does a dinosaur frame) - I am very happy with these changes, I am scared of a rework but honestly what I would like is for the Spectral Scream, holding left trigger switches to a longer range instead of a cone, let it scale damage the longer it is out, maybe like Ember the more damage it is outputting the more energy it will consume. I dont wanna mod for this cause let's face it noone really uses the breath skill it needs a buff to make it useable.
    For Effigy - I now some love the turret and enjoy the ability to drop it off let it murder but how about we remove it as a turret and let it be a companion of sorts. It flies with you attacking enemies with its own melee and breath attacks (Kinda like wukong twin i know but i dont think the twin uses energy while its out) Make the mod card for moving it over to making it when you hold it for a "recast' it doesnt a scream explosion or something
    The only other thing i would do with effigy is also using a similar function is if we stray from the turret then let us go full dragon. No weapons just the claws and breath attacks, maybe it maxes out the Vex armor buff on cast as well. Full dragon mode just breath death and slash your enemies to bits (Basically Valkyr) let us fly a bit to - nothing like Titania but maybe a more controlling Zepher float

  • @darkumineru1681
    @darkumineru1681 Месяц назад

    4:50 aka it only works for 2 frames and not the frames like oberon or grendal khora or X or Y or Z like honestly when i play oberon with dante in the squad i feel i just cant cast anything save can quickly happen with khora if i use my 1 same with grendal and equinox

  • @magic_cfw
    @magic_cfw Месяц назад +1

    opinon on LoS is that it should be "thematic". Something like Fire Blast feels like a wave of fire, which makes sense to be blocked by things. in contrast with lavos probes which phase through walls.

    • @jacobhurst7275
      @jacobhurst7275 Месяц назад +1

      The same reasoning for why rhino should be able to slow eximi. Because he is affecting time not them.

    • @rift7609
      @rift7609 Месяц назад

      ​@jacobhurst7275 but the time slowing is still a void ability, which is why they can nullify that void ability. Just like how cataclysm stasis is a void ability, they can nullify it

    • @magic_cfw
      @magic_cfw Месяц назад

      @@jacobhurst7275 while I agree, that's more on the side of balancing as opposed to thematic sense. Hell, arguably the OG is what protects them from the "shock" of the stomp.

  • @Rahab369
    @Rahab369 Месяц назад +1

    There's two things I want from a Chroma rework; the ability to combo elements and a dragon form. That's it. If he gets those two things I don't really care much about the rest. Though a proper single cast AOE breath attack would be a nice way to spread status and maybe some other effects.

  • @thefaceofmercy9426
    @thefaceofmercy9426 Месяц назад

    line of sight should effect how strong or far an ability effects enemies instead of the binary hit/doesn't hit. think melee followthrough or aoe falloff

  • @azizjacko3222
    @azizjacko3222 Месяц назад +20

    I think frost needs a rework imo

    • @thomaatoes2874
      @thomaatoes2874 Месяц назад +20

      biting frost augment should have been his passive

    • @jerryglennii1406
      @jerryglennii1406 Месяц назад +7

      Frost 4 does everything....but his first 3 could definitely use some help that's NOT another augment

    • @KhristianM.
      @KhristianM. Месяц назад +5

      He’s fine💀 yall just play him wrong

    • @KhristianM.
      @KhristianM. Месяц назад

      @@jerryglennii1406his 3 can nuke, his 1st isn’t bad either only his 2nd is trash

    • @Glamador
      @Glamador Месяц назад +2

      ​@@KhristianM.Everyone needs a helminth slot. It's a good thing.

  • @VandashStumpedKnee
    @VandashStumpedKnee Месяц назад

    Thank you

  • @morganpriest7726
    @morganpriest7726 Месяц назад +2

    Chroma buffs? In this day and age? Praise be!

  • @EssigSaureEthylEster
    @EssigSaureEthylEster Месяц назад +1

    Regarding overguard problemns:
    What about a gear item that prevents your warframe from having overguard (and one that disables shields)
    Then any Rage user can just equip both and not be disrupted by allies Overguard or (over)shield generation

    • @thatonepenguinperson618
      @thatonepenguinperson618 Месяц назад

      They reworked ShieldGating to prevent builds that require gear items like the Decaying dragon key, so I find it highly unlikely they'll ever go down that route.
      I also kind of agree with DE's decision since having to build an obscure item that 99% of players won't know about just to make their Warframe consistently functional in a random public mission seems a bit obscure and confusing for new/mid players especially.

  • @cinderpsycho1985
    @cinderpsycho1985 Месяц назад

    Hope there will be a way to opt out of overguard from team mates

  • @TheQiuetOne
    @TheQiuetOne Месяц назад

    Hey TP. Try Lavos with his new augment and a soma prime built for max crit damage.... I think you'll like the results

  • @justinleffingwell8277
    @justinleffingwell8277 Месяц назад

    My chroma mr fodder frame might get used now

  • @MultiZakx
    @MultiZakx Месяц назад

    Damn this music takes me back

  • @jascha5303
    @jascha5303 Месяц назад +2

    0:16 "A tragedy of nerfs" - Ah yes, I see what you did there 😂

  • @mrsister032
    @mrsister032 Месяц назад +2

    The Chroma buff was the best news.

  • @vladd415
    @vladd415 Месяц назад +1

    Can you also cover the changes to crowd control? From what I've seen they keep giving crowd control less and less use in-game.

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Месяц назад +2

      I have a video planned on CC

    • @vladd415
      @vladd415 Месяц назад

      @@TacticalPotato Great! Excited to see it

  • @dragonhop5723
    @dragonhop5723 Месяц назад +1

    I don't get why Rage/Hunter Adrenaline doesn't work with warframes who give themselves overguard. I was really excited when I saw those mods would start working with overguard, only to be dissapointed when I tried it on my Kullervo. Why did they do this?

  • @machinech183
    @machinech183 Месяц назад +6

    Tater's a Bad Dragon fan who knew!? (I swear he's gonna laugh when he figures this out)

    • @jacobhurst7275
      @jacobhurst7275 Месяц назад +1

      Probably threw it in because he already knows. The timing seemed like an intentional pun.

  • @christophersharp2212
    @christophersharp2212 Месяц назад

    Oberon the forgotten King. Ooooo i just came up with a cool name for a oberon update quest for a rework for him.

  • @nightterror89
    @nightterror89 Месяц назад

    Line of sight its the to counter balamce nuking (and we still can nuke easily with other metods), I just thing one particular frame should be using the ssme line of sight mechanic, Ash... he just falls behind other frames and they nerfed him for nuking when others keep their mechanics, in my opiniom he should target enemies in a cone like (similar to petrify) giving a mark to every enemy in that line of sight, the speed of the clones killing should be a little big faster just to be on the same level as other frames

  • @rhyzers2289
    @rhyzers2289 Месяц назад

    Yes, you have no idea how was Nova b4 her rework, when her 4 was a nuke that blasted full maps

  • @Doburesu
    @Doburesu Месяц назад

    I see the line of sight changes don’t apply to Yareli. I appreciate this oversight. Wonderful.

  • @meisterdra
    @meisterdra Месяц назад +14

    I just wanna say, the biggest forgoton Warframe is Nyx. Non of her ability compare to other Warframe.

    • @savonmcleod7265
      @savonmcleod7265 Месяц назад +3

      Valkyr as well

    • @meisterdra
      @meisterdra Месяц назад +1

      @@savonmcleod7265 at least valkyr can go and make some melee Dmg and Buffing aliese. But Nyx. First ability is weak. Second ability could be better. Third Ability hast badlist CC in the Game and ther is a chance u get get killed by a Blindfire. Fourt ability drain to much Energie in higher lv that u can never use it. I tryd 1 months now to make Nyx some how Worth it to play in any mode. Even Loki is a better version of Nyx if you build him right.

    • @calvinmiller1448
      @calvinmiller1448 Месяц назад

      Nyx has mag's bubble, mind control that's available elsewhere and confusion that you get from Oberon. Nyx isn't that unique

    • @blackpaisley5156
      @blackpaisley5156 Месяц назад

      Loki is seething rn

  • @atraunam3223
    @atraunam3223 Месяц назад +2

    R.I.P embers fire blast still having issues hitting enemies

    • @Glamador
      @Glamador Месяц назад +3

      Don't worry they said that's coming in the next cert update.

  • @Dthamilaye
    @Dthamilaye Месяц назад

    Isn't shield lost only after overshield? So if someone has 50 shield, and 16k overshield from dante, then rage will still not work because overshield keeps that 50 shield up all the time? This doesn't bother Inaros or Nidus, but other users of Rage with basic small shield still have problems?

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Месяц назад +1

      Inaros and nidus have no shield so it's for them

  • @stefanorigato
    @stefanorigato Месяц назад

    The LoS check stuff, so it should even be a buff for high-fov player

  • @LegendaryFoundingTitan
    @LegendaryFoundingTitan Месяц назад

    These are amazing changes. I was just thinking about the fact that dante do more harm than good for Inaros,Nidus,chroma and any other tank really. It put me in a mindset that supports in the game as a whole need to have such precise limitations so they dont mess up other frames performance like. Trinity extra shielding and any frame that gave overguard in general. It made me kinda upset cause i love my tanks but support frames were also really fun to use aswell but again the more harm than good. But Now its being looked at and being fixed. im really glad that dante made them realize the flaws for some supports. Now we can not screw over other players by mistake. Such luxury of life changes!!!
    I still do want 1 warframe where everything they do is just for supporting. Cause there is no Pure support not even Trinity however close! Trinity still has her 3 which is only for herself and her 1 not super good considering her 4 exists. XD
    Would be nice to have a pretty Beefy support that is Purely a support though.

  • @samfemjr9898
    @samfemjr9898 Месяц назад +1

    Nerfs are a part of any live service game. The problem sometimes with DE is how sudden and heavy handed they can be. Nerfs should be for balancing, not for essentially eliminating viability. I'm glad with all this chaos, they are starting make that realization as well.

  • @Zamerus
    @Zamerus Месяц назад

    One thing I noticed about Dante after his nurf. When I used tragedy my damage was way lower, my 10-20k became 1.5k at best. I'm not sure what else was adjusted but it feels like his scaling was reduced too

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Месяц назад

      Weird, mine is still nuking

    • @Zamerus
      @Zamerus Месяц назад

      @@TacticalPotato Could def just be me but it did feel weaker without knowing any nerfs went out

  • @ValenderAndPo
    @ValenderAndPo Месяц назад

    Feel like line of sight should be on abilities that are sight based. Blinds like excal, mirage, even inaros.
    Stuff that isnt should just be range, like rhino, volt, maybe even hydroid plunder

  • @Rexcalibur142
    @Rexcalibur142 Месяц назад +1

    As the self proclaimed "most sane Chroma main" these buffs are great but a rework would be nice. I would love something that revolves around multiplying loot since dragons are known for being greedy. But realistically, if they buff the range of credits multiplied and the damage rate of his 1 and 4 he'll feel a lot better. But I still think vex armor needs a whole overhaul, where abilities like Roar, Eclipse, and hell Garuda's passive offer similar benefits with a much lower risk. If they wanna keep vex armor "feeling" like it does, it should be more like redline where it offers much more but still needs to build it up.

  • @kennkra
    @kennkra Месяц назад

    Got into warframe because of your chroma videos so this changes are awesome, hope they rework him soon

  • @rudycastillo4150
    @rudycastillo4150 Месяц назад

    Acra titron addative or multiplicative?

  • @GabrielHenrique-pq5bo
    @GabrielHenrique-pq5bo Месяц назад

    i think line of sight depends on waframes, it does make sense for a warframe to have line of sight check ? for example, saryn's 1 and 4, it wouldnt make sense imo for her not having line of sight checks when what she does is spread weird viruses through the air, while it does make sense for excalibur to have line of sight on his radial blind for example because he just makes his sword shine, it wouldnt make logical sense for an enemy get blinded behind a wall, ember needs to see where she is throwing the fireballs of her 4, frost doesnt need to see who he is freezing for his 4 and so on, so i do believe that line of sight is needed when in this game of space magical ninjas, it makes logical sense for it to need to exist

  • @jeffrbake
    @jeffrbake Месяц назад +3

    They still need to revisit marked for death. It's so inconsistent.

    • @Leviathis_Krade
      @Leviathis_Krade Месяц назад

      ash was able to nuke rooms with one backstab, too op...
      wait now he can do the same but has to manually ping targets for max death marks from his default 4th...
      sadge

    • @HatakeHyei
      @HatakeHyei Месяц назад

      Put Ash with Dante in a team, you mark enemies for Dante to kill. He needs a rework too.

    • @Leviathis_Krade
      @Leviathis_Krade Месяц назад

      @@HatakeHyei MFD literally deleted hydron waves on ash for a brief window b4 it was nerfed, it also only works for the first attack.
      also ash's passive only affects slash procs he's inflicted. ppl will say otherwise but it is what it is.
      Dante will have cut them to ribbons before ash has finished marking his 4th's assassinate's death marks.
      now paired with saryn's spores? Dante does great b/c his 3 breaks boxes and other objects like popping the spores.

    • @jeffrbake
      @jeffrbake Месяц назад +1

      @@Leviathis_Krade keep it LOS, but make it LOS from the enemy or from the casting frame.
      The damage cap based on current health is annoying, but if I have to keep that, so be it.

  • @gothiclala
    @gothiclala Месяц назад +2

    Thank God juciy buffs to mag boy chroma who's still my #1 frame when I don't know who to go with.

    • @thomaatoes2874
      @thomaatoes2874 Месяц назад

      one bombard is all it takes to one shot him

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Месяц назад

      100% no idea it was a thing until twitch chat educated me on stream today.

  • @Chanterla1kuyoma
    @Chanterla1kuyoma Месяц назад

    I'm all happy for the new changes to overguard, but does this affect frames with a tiny amount of shields like valkyr?

    • @khirek5335
      @khirek5335 Месяц назад

      Nope unfortunately not

  • @BaeBunni
    @BaeBunni Месяц назад

    I'm not a fan of LOS but at the same time if we had 0 LOS they would be reducing range to compensate which would just be nezha augment but for everyone.

  • @asplicoder7546
    @asplicoder7546 Месяц назад

    Playing with Dante yesterday, he is much better. He hit much more shots with tragedy when I could barely see enemies.

  • @mcsatans5120
    @mcsatans5120 Месяц назад

    Remember when Vauban was going to get LoS checks and that was a good thing? Still waiting on them.

  • @jarenhilger9816
    @jarenhilger9816 Месяц назад

    What is your reaper prime build?

  • @emerdude935
    @emerdude935 Месяц назад

    YAY Chroma is usable again!

  • @aidenstafford2985
    @aidenstafford2985 Месяц назад

    What warframe is in the thumbnail?

  • @agentmaine8352
    @agentmaine8352 Месяц назад

    Nooooooo I can't use rage in Kullevro now if it's only overgaurd gifted by allies I was hoping to drop nourish

  • @KryptidShadow
    @KryptidShadow Месяц назад

    Idk how i feel about LoS on nuking frames. CC would maybe be more appropriate? But eh

  • @hldm2850
    @hldm2850 Месяц назад

    I wish Nidus was able to generate overguard on his own

  • @DevonteChapman
    @DevonteChapman Месяц назад

    What glowing arm armor is he wearing on his Dante

  • @johndoe-qn2mm
    @johndoe-qn2mm Месяц назад

    6:56 the balls on the left are why I have issues taking Alchemy seriously.
    The angle just sneaks up on you

  • @vVvYOINK
    @vVvYOINK Месяц назад +1

    Wukong's zhitty exalted weapon buff when?

  • @leviosdraekion6993
    @leviosdraekion6993 Месяц назад

    So when is Saryn's Spore ability going to be LOS? I don't understand why they have yet to nerf that frame. All of these other frames tend to have to go through much more effort to nuke a room than Saryn.

  • @doug9579
    @doug9579 Месяц назад

    The rage and hunter adrenaline i get but needing to take damage to deal damage shouldnt really be a problem cause even without the buff you should be able to kill most stuff and when your not able to they should be dealing enough damage to bypass overgaurd anyway also team synergy should be considered dante lots of over gaurd is a great support for squishy elemental nukes like volt saryn not necessary on team of tanks

  • @karalyzel3177
    @karalyzel3177 Месяц назад

    When it comes to frame power my comparison is with Octavia. We already have a frame that has infinite invisibility that scales to 9999 effortlessly. Can a frame compete with that? No? Then there's no harm in making the frame stronger. It seems recently DE has embraced this and made frames that can do endless content. Dante can bring a whole squad endless so I'm surprised the nerfs got pulled back honestly, dudes already a top spot contender IMO.

  • @SpottedHares
    @SpottedHares Месяц назад

    Honestly I've been playing a lot of Chroma because of that double jump passive. yes its not a game changer in terms of power but its surprisingly fun to have a extra jump.

  • @Eldersh1eld
    @Eldersh1eld Месяц назад

    I'm so glad they changed nezha's nerf, i do agree a range nerf wasnt surprising but at least its not 50% anymore so it can be viable, i was so excited when i saw a build with this augment cuz it seemed really fucking fun and nezha would no longer be just a weapon platform for me

  • @wolfcrazed0174
    @wolfcrazed0174 Месяц назад

    Man, I subsumed parasitic armor to my Dante for nothing. Sadge.
    Also, I still wish they'd add an additional slot to Warframes, or at least their primes, specifically for an augment.
    Make a new quest or something with the reward being a new arsenal segment and a "Warframe Augmentation Adapter" or something like that.
    An additional slot for a single augment mod still using mod capacity, either for all warframes or exclusive to primes. Added QoL in my eyes, and further adds to the theme of power fantasy.

  • @lixingke5159
    @lixingke5159 Месяц назад

    Overguard + chromas vex armor still fucks with profit taker and eidolon hunts right?

    • @lixingke5159
      @lixingke5159 Месяц назад

      I was doing pt and thought I was helping keep everyone alive until someone playing told me off. So I left after and checked the patch notes, sure she could just go off and kill enemies but people wanna speed through them as fast as possible?

  • @securatyyy
    @securatyyy Месяц назад

    Putting more LOS checks is great and all but doesn't really address the abundance of geometry that blocks LOS. That box in the hallway blocking your view hasn't moved at all. Some abilities shouldn't have LOS like pillage and fire blast and the majority of them tbh.

  • @RBRSC
    @RBRSC Месяц назад

    Ya know, despite being my 3rd most played Warframe I'm scratching my head on what Vauban power is LoS.... Tether? Flechettes I suppose but they're generally small enough that you wouldn't notice

    • @michaeldougherty6036
      @michaeldougherty6036 Месяц назад +2

      Imagine a world where a max-range vortex doesn't stick enemies to the wall underneath the defense target.

    • @Glamador
      @Glamador Месяц назад

      Tesla Nervos' "Tesla Bank" that deals stored damage maybe? They mentioned nervos.

  • @MrJUSTchr1s
    @MrJUSTchr1s Месяц назад +1

    Thered be a lot less backlash around the LoS system IF it was applied consistently... Its not. They want to limit warframes from nuking uncontrollably but there are multiple frames that do EXACTLY that and they're not being touched. It comes across as playing favorites when you're not consistent with LoS applications. I think the reason DE is being so stubborn about LoS is because they want it implemented frame wide eventually.

  • @knight0739
    @knight0739 Месяц назад

    now to wait for the combat discipline to work with over guard and not stop some builds

  • @alex140i3
    @alex140i3 Месяц назад

    line of sight for cc i agree with (still hate enemy overguard affecting cc but not dmg abilitys) but los for damage abilitys i disagree with

  • @uwUmbra
    @uwUmbra Месяц назад

    I like ur video, but the text is too tiny
    Thanks for read the patch notes :)

  • @meatwax
    @meatwax Месяц назад

    Im impressed with how responsive DE is. I dont expect perfection, but it feels like they r listening. And that goes a long way

  • @sompret
    @sompret Месяц назад

    Now's definitely Chromer's chance to be a

  • @twindrags1
    @twindrags1 Месяц назад

    3:37 uuuh, reference intended, ooor.....? :p

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Месяц назад +1

      Not intended. Today I learned something

    • @twindrags1
      @twindrags1 Месяц назад

      "Spacemom, the internet is doing internet-things again!" :p

  • @Wooskii1
    @Wooskii1 Месяц назад

    I think line of sight is just fine, a fundamental game mechanic, the problem is that it's not consistent; Saryn spores seem to have zero regard for walls or anything else, Lavos can bypass terrain but misses enemies if they're standing one step down on the same staircase, and a chair or dead body could block others like Dante or Hildryn, yet somehow Dante can still hit through walls at the same time just not every time.

  • @Vlad-ts4qd
    @Vlad-ts4qd Месяц назад

    shame they did not allow the hunter adrenaline to work with self overguard, was really hoping to get back into kullervo 😔