Final Fantasy IX | Loose Ends | How to Unlock the Secret of the Eidolon Wall and Dagger's Real Name
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2014
- You cannot have Dagger or Amarant in your party for this.
This is our last trip ever to both Dagger and Eiko's home. Madain Sari is home to a ton of secrets of the lost summoner's tribe.
One of which is the real name of Dagger/Garnet, and her mothers name! It seems her father survived the storm, but died soon after.
Lani is also back, but she has very clearly changed her ways, thanks to the moogles.
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To blow your mind some more: this easter egg is also a throwback to the original game. The very first quest in Final Fantasy I is to rescue Princess Sarah, and Jane happens to be the name of her mother.
Yup! That's why it's in here! There are a ton of throwbacks to earlier Final Fantasy games.
Speaking of - I'm streaming every game over on Twitch from 1-15. Currently on 4!
"nine is the last number. It is also the first"
The quote said it all
Didn't the back of the game's case say something like "everything old is new again" or something like that?
Good thing I’ve play the first Final Fantasy game, I can feel the emotional connection.
That might explain what there’s an ‘evil space wizard’ named “Garland”.
In the first Final Fantasy, Garland kidnapped Princess Sarah. FF9 Garland destroyed Garnet/Dagger(/Sarah)’s home.
By the way, did anyone notice the first part of FF9 battle theme sound like the FF1 battle theme. Like this Final Fantasy 9 trying to go back to the first Final Fantasy game.
Holy... argh man i thought i couldnt like this game more than i already did._.
This blew my mind...
The very first time I played through this game (when it was new and I was a lot younger) I actually named Garnet "Sarah" because she reminded me of my aunt Sarah ( and because I wasn't very creative with names)
To find out all these years later that I actually named her after her actual original birthname is amazing!
: )
Khelevandros Kudos
Khelevandros boring
Son of Fire why? because nothing bad happened? Take your negative thoughts and shove it up your ass.
Bajie Frost too many magic
If you say "Muegles" one more time...
Gabriel MEWGLES
Kupo!
Mügles?
myoog-elz?
Moo*
This video is from 2014! Apologies if you don't dig the quality - it was one of the first big things I did on RUclips. These videos are getting the most attention they've ever gotten, so enjoy the cringe!
Missildine Online! The video and its info are very nice. I didn't know if this from back when I played the game. "Mew-gle" and "Shiv-a" are funny. Probably going to be a running joke moving forward.
thegamingtrader haha thank you! Hopefully my awfulness makes ya laugh
this is inteersting. Since it was suggested to me by the related videos (which has a lot of the youtube algorithm working for it) I guess the algorith finds it watchworthy for a lot of people all of a sudden :O
Mooo not mue lol
corey merrill thanks
Sarah is also the name of the princess you rescue in Final Fantasy 1. Squaresoft wasn't kidding when they said FFIX is a throwback to the earliest days of the series.
There was an artistic touch with the backgrounds of these areas in old FF.. i feel it cannot be made in new 3d environments
I COMPLETELY agree. They are canvas with paintings. Not walls with textures.
Mohannad Al-Shareef i agree 300%
You guys saw some ff7remake stuff ^_^???
@@juliuscasar7202 very good indeed, but for some reason it's far more memorable in static form
I legit cannot decide which I love more, 7 or 9.. they are both just absolutely mind blowing.
Not into 6?
Never hear anyone championing 8.
KN North from what I recall the games had a bizarre order of release so whilst I had 7&9 I never remember hearing about 6 at the time.
8 I simply couldn’t stand, it tried to take it self far too seriously but the mix of gun blades and radical characters totally opposed that concept.. my opinion of course.
@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg 6 was 3 in America. I understand where you're coming from. It dies stand out as overly serious compared to 7, certainly compared to 9.
KN North yeah I’m in England so who even knows, I recall a popular 2D FF game but yeah 7&9 held the real “fanstasy” vibe, more so 9.. may have to reinstall them to my Xbox 😅
@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg go for it. I just finished that hd version of 9 on Xbox. Looks way better than PS1.
FF9 will always have a special place in my heart. My first and most beloved FF series to this date! Played it multiple times just for the sake of happy memories ❤
Yes!! I used to try to play it every year. Im due for another jaunt 🤞
This game blew my mind and puts the FF's on PS2, PS3, and PS4 to shame.
billyblackburn87 happy to hear that! It's my favorite game of all time
Missildine Online! Its my joint fave game of all time. Strangely this game is a bit of a lost forgotten gem, it is the most critically acclaimed FF game of all time but it is never mention ed much nowadays
Its on ps4 tho.
Gage Hamilton That's not the point: he meant FF games *developed* for those systems.
As in FFX for the PS2 -> FFXV for the PS4. FFIX is now on the PS4, but that doesn't make it a PS4 title.
i plat ffxv in on ps4... ffix is far better than that crap.
Also, if anyone has trouble achieving this side quest when walking back and forth, once you reach the door before starting to walk the opposite direction, you won't hear the click noise until after the exclamation point is no longer over your head when reaching the door again, that is when you know you've walked far enough one direction before turning around to walk the opposite way.
Hope this helps!
You don’t have to have Vivi, Steiner, and Quina. You just can’t have Amarant or Garnet.
Neat!
I wish there would be a IX-2 with individual tales for each character, but later combining them all into one major story. Much like how they did Final Fantasy IV After Years, but including a tale for the very much deserved Beatrix! :) An finally have Lani as playable, but of course not with her own tale.
That would be amazing! It'll never happen, but we can dream!
i wish too
I want to see FF IX-2 too !!!
Well, Square was considering a remake (same game but much more story) since one year after it's release, because they had to cut so much content due to time limitations. Hironobu Sakaguchi once said FF9 is his favorite and if he would be doing a sequel to a FF game it would be 9 .
For all the supposed "information" you state here, he doesnt seem very interested, ff7 has prequels and sequels in games, movies, etc.,FF4 has sequels, even FF13 has 3 games, and the one game that actually has a -2 is FFX-2. Now ff7 gets a remake and FFXV has expanded stories as well. So I don´t see that favorite love for 9.
I love how the comments are either about, someones mind being blown.. or moogles
Also i love galaxy quest.
One of my all time fave movie to watch
Wow I played this game to death years ago and never realised this! Great revelation regarding Garnet. Good work!
You keep saying Eeko and Meugles and it's driving me up the wall
You'll get over it. I have faith in you, child!
Missildine Online! You’re such a condescending prick about everyone pointing out your mistakes.
@@MiuXiu Imagine having 50 people pointing out the exact same mistake. If he took them seriously it'd actually drive him insane.
Penguinox it seems like he does take them seriously because he goes out of his way to reply to every single person and be an ass to them.
@@MiuXiu "A condescending prick" really?I've looked at alot of these comments and he seems really nice. Whenever someone mentions him pronouncing something wrong he makes a cheeky joking response but that's about it. "You'll get over it my child" thats so obviously a joke jesus. Also there is literally hundreds of of comments ridiculing his pronunciation its gotta be at least a bit frustrating on his end despite all that he's just having fun about it. No offence is meant by my comment I just think your being too harsh to the guy.
If they ever remake this game it would be cool if they add a cut-scene for Garnet
"Mew"gles? They're spelt MOO like a cow! MOO-GLES!
They're not a Pokemon!
Lol
Sarah is also a word that means Princess. Very poetic choice i think
I really hope they remake this game.... I would love to know who Garnet's father was, that chiseled all these things into the Eidolon Wall, and a playable backstory to what led up to the destruction of Madain Sari. Was Garnet's father the leader of the summoner tribe or was it Eiko's grandfather? Just how powerful were they all, and what foes did they fight before Garland destroyed their village? A prequel perhaps...
Wanted to do the quest for so long. Got lazy. You gave me that name I was wondering about for years in a fresh manner. Thank you pal, earned your blue thimb and sub :)
I just beat this and was looking for stuff I might miss, no one mentioned this anywhere wish I had known about it! So much hidden stuff in this game.
The feeling I got when I watched the last air bender movie , hearing them pronounce every name wrong is the same feeling I got listening to you
I love it
Oh my lord I just went to pandemonium and forgot to do this sidequest >.
Wow, my mind is blown away!1 I play this game in 2002 on ps1 when I was 12. Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure!! Glad you got to experience it!
finished this today (no walkthroughs) & i only saw lani thrice, her appearance, dali & at the conclusion of the game.
40 hrs to complete.
ps1.
lovely game
Nice grats!
@@MissildineOnline cheers!
wow amazing. This game had so many magical moments. I love it!
It's just so great 😍
HOLY CRAP!
When I first played FFIX, I named Garnet as "Sarah".
I only found out about this just now.
I gave Garnet her real name!
Man, I just watched your videos. You are awesome. Thanks for your good videos and your good explanations.
Like for discovering dagger's real name. I thought I'd never find the real name. Not that I cared too much about it but it's interesting to know that.
Near end game in most FFs I have played always encouraged revisiting old places like going back Doma Castle with Cyan, in FFVI.
Well that's ironic, I also named Garnet Sarah after my cat that passed away at the time. 😂
Thats so cool!
I did this side quest and knew Garnet's real name decades ago. Surprised to see alot of folks werent able to know this, until now.
Yeah, same. But I only knew to look because the strategy guide said there was something here
lmao, when ya discovered the text lines revolving a girl called sara i instantly thought about lili. funny thing though, in the english version she is called dagger. the german translatior put a lot of thoughts into the name of princess garnet. during the scene where she gives herself a new name, she is holding zidanes dagger which is called a Liliendolch in german (dolch meaning dagger). lilie => lili smart move eh? ^^
Jane is the Coneria's Queen and Sarah is the Corneria's princess from Final Fantasy 1.
It is! I love all of the references in this game
@@MissildineOnline princess sara also appears in final fantasy iii. Greetings from Mexico.
The moment that mural says something about the a storm, and a wife and daughter, it reminded me of the first cutscene in the game. Thanks man. Wow, who would've thought, after all these years. Anyway, is removing Eiko and Garnet from the party a compulsory? Would've loved to hear Garnet's reaction (if it exists).
Sadly there isn't an extra dialog if you re add her to the party
this is the first FF that i played when i was 18.. im turning 40 this year. time flies
My first FF ever when I was in elementary school, turning 32 this year. I feeeel this comment 😂😂
Nice. After 22 of wondering I finally know… thank you.
Your pronunciation is all kinds of messed up.
Thank you!
He means Thank Yuh
Well-cum!
Wow !!! Never knew this! Thanks
Yalcin Kaya yeah
This is crazy!!!
I need to play this again and will try this!
Very nice find!!!
Honestly, this video is so helpful. Thank you 😀
Basically those who pursued for Garnet Dagger real name, the next stop will straight to Daguerreo with Namingway Card... a like for agreement?
I'll agree with ya on that one!
Awesome Secret, I will name my daughter Sarah... or Dagger, IDK!
thanks for the info
i already did that but when i was young better i never thought that part was important.
so i skipped reading the script
I like your pronunciation if Eidolon. I have always said it as eye-dohl-ON
Finally got my platinum trophy on Final Fantasy IX 😍
Good job but i wanna know 1 thing, did your hand ache after the 1k in skipping? From what i've heard it takes 13 MINUTES XD
@@chrispalmer6804 lol, I always just walk right by that fucking jump rope.
I remember that when I saw this I was like sarah smile
Rly in the english version her name is dagger? Dfck... in the german version Garnet's "name" was Lilly :'D.
Spanish version is "Daga" lol
In the english version theres actually a little scene where she is holding one of Zidanes daggers and asks him what it is called. When he tells her it is a dagger she decides to name herself after it lol
garnet was experiencing identity crisis
her childhood name was sarah became garnet and now dagger
@@Stevo-jp7on yeah in the german version the dagger is called "Liliendolch". "Lilie" is a flower and "Dolch" means dagger.
I never did go back and finish figuring that out come to think of it
Thank you for this! Never knew this
hot dayum your pronunciation is all over the place XD
;)
Awesome clip but i did know her real name after my first playthrough and have named her Sarah on every replay since.
You did the wall on your first playthrough?! That's awesome!
@@MissildineOnline Yeah =) sadly i lost my first save file due to some friend who had a beer too many and thought it would be funny to see how i reacted but yes. Her initial name for me was Shannon and changed it to Sarah once i found out. I have to admit for me FFIX is what turned me into a gamer in full and i was quite obsessed with the game.
I remember that Ozma used to appear on that wall, why isn't in on the wall anymore? :o
Also information online says that Ozma used to be an eidolon that loose its form "AS SEEN IN THE EIDOLON WALL"
The thing is... WHERE?
Lani leaves even with these party members (for me). I am still on the Hilda Guard 3 (don't have Invincible). Do you have to enter with Dagger first and then change party members? Or is it after Pandemonium?
I keep going there and she keeps jumping away but I don’t have garnet or Eiko in my party so confused I just got the boat do I need to complete more missions before this is my first time playing the game as an adult lol smashed it when I was young without 100% completion
It's been a LONG time since I made this video, but it SHOULD give you access if you follow the steps! (I hope)
Think its Disc 4 can do when mist is back
To me for FF favorites FF III, FF VII (Of Course) FF IX, FF XII...But how Strange is it that RED XIII (FF VII) Lived in a Canyone similar to this one and then it looks like a red wolf with dark head on the Eidolon Wall, I Think FF games were meant for that Order i just listed my favorites, i know that's in accurate, but to me it seems like it, i still wish for a HD remake of FF III Cecil and Cain - Goblez, Tellah (Mastering Meteor) Definitely my top FF Favorite though by far..
After speaking with Lamie, there is no way to find the exclamation point in the lil ' room.. :( #PS4
So who is the eidolon near Esto Gaza they reported? Maybe it's ark because that's nearby the entrance to terra?
I'm actually not sure - I've always kind of thought of it as the Madeen eidolon or whatever it's name is. Even though Mog transformed, I think they only did that because of the energy of Esto Gaza? Idk!
@@MissildineOnline Oh yea, it's totally Madeen. The part of the wall that says they wish to create a new eidolon to protect Eiko is right before the report of the new eidolon in Esto Gaza.
So, I've spoken with Lani, but she won't mention the writing in the small room. Any ideas?
She didn't even mention the wall when I did it lol
You really made it last 10 minutes, gratz
My dude nugget - this video came out YEARS before that was ever a thing.
But good look trying to look witty 😂
Blew my mind!!! Just wanted to join in
Have somebody changed the dagger's name when it is possible? I mean, when we play legend of Zelda I for NES, if we start a game with Zelda, the map changes, so maybe this is a hint for a next game, maybe that legend eidolon...
The best final fantasy ever.
Bro you got an amazing voice..also what mic and game/voice recording software are you using?
Don Man thanks man! I have no idea what I was using when i did this video - it was a long time ago! I believe I was using a blue yeti
Missildine Online! What software do you use to edit your audio if any? Audacity? Also what do you use to record your games? Thanks...ff9 is my favorite
Nowadays I use the Elgato Capture Software or XSplit to record footage, audacity to record audio. And I edit everything in Premiere. During these videos - crap. haha
Missildine Online! Thanks bro
Amazed at these weirdos below not sussing Garnet was the girl in the boat and being blown her name was Sarah it's revealed well before this Lani line
i wonder if lani would be in opera omnia with garland
Opera Omnia??
Iv talked to Lani and gone in into the room but no mark for that clue!!...HELP PLEASE
Mewgulls makes me think of mucus gargling
I'm wondering if anyone still looks at this video. I'm also wondering if, after you do this successfully, does the story line reflect it later on?
Nothing really changes for doing this. You just learn more about her origins!
This is a spoiler to me but worth it. I wouldn’t able solve this side quest, even if I did, I wouldn’t realize “Sarah” is Garnet/Dagger’s true name.
never knew this. if u had dagger aka garnet aka Sarah^^ would she react to it? or nothing
So that's the secret, I've try that too but I fail don't know what to do that time, good bro cause of you I know now thank you very much hehehe 😁👍
Sarah ? Damn that's so cool we know her real name
I'm a new guy to ur vids, and I like em cept one thing, Its not MUUgles its MOOgles. Trust me
lol thanks. This video is REALLY old though man
ironically sarah means princess. funny how that worked out.
I do exactly the same however, the 3rd dialogue box NEVER appears when I talk to her, she keeps repeating the 1st and 2nd one.
same here - did you find an answer to this?
@@VanDerSaph I kept playing and came back later and it worked
@@igno4ta i just came back after progressing for the 10k kills *D:* and it worked. Thank you sir
Trophy unlocked (PS4 version)
Aram Tapacian that's awesome!
Lani doesn't tell me anything about any writhing.Why???
Lani doesn't talk to me about the small room. All other replicas are there, but this one is not. What am I doing wrong?
Not sure without seeing tbh
For the love of god learn how to pronounce the names of the moogles/summoms
As soon as I discovered Garnet's real name, off I went to Daguerro to change it.
Every time I play I always name her Sarah right away 😂
@@MissildineOnline I have done the same since too 😅
I don't get it. How are you supposed to know that the Jane and Sarah in that letter are referring to Brahne and Garnet? What is the clue that makes you think that? Please explain it to me cause I just don't get it.
Not Brahne. Watch the opening cinematic to the game!
Sorry it's been a looooong time since i've played FFIX so I forgot that Brahne isn't Garnet's real mother and I forgot about that opening cutscene.
Now i'm curious as to who her father is! He's clearly the one that wrote that letter on the wall but no clue as to his identity. I guess if you want to get really meta you could say he's the king of Cornelia from the first Final Fantasy because his wife's name was Jane and his daughter's name was Sarah. You even rescue Sarah from Garland in that game and coincidentally there actually is a Garland in FFIX. I know it's most probably just the developers using names from past FFs to invoke nostalgia since FFIX was meant to be a love letter to all the previous FFs but I just like to imagine in my head that maybe this could be an alternate reality to FF1 where Garland doesn't kidnap Sarah in this timeline :P
That would be amazing - and honestly not even something I thought about! Square used to be so good with this type of stuff. I think her dad was just a summoner? I don't know though!
that is amazing thank you very much my friend
posted 2014. I knew this scene from 2005 i guess. and what the heck is a "mugle"?
Mewgle.
i thought it was moogle
I pronounce it Mewgle
I did this and it doesn't do anything.. she keeps jumping away!!? Why????
Check your party!
This sidequest is just utter bullshit... i don't hear no sound, no matter how much i walk around in circles. I talked to lani, found the clue. What the hell am i doing wrong? or did they change how the quest plays out in android version? Hell if i know.
It's very, VERY specific. Don't forget about the party members and everything else.
The reward for doing this is just that - doing it. I wouldn't stress too hard!
So dope bro thanks
Is this only on disc 4?
How are we 100% that Jane is Garnet's mother and not someone else?
Arcanua the Red Mage because it said she survived the storm and in the very beginning it opens with the storm.
Moogle - moo-gul not mew-gul
Shiva - Shee-vah not shiv-ah
Ramuh - ra-muh, not ram-oo
Sylverwing hey man thanks for the pronunciation lesson on a video from 2014!
Actually FFXIV has Ramuh in it too and is voiced, and every one of the characters that mentions Ramuh pronounces it Ramoo. So that's how it's supposed to be pronounced according to SE.
Jay Emm JAY TO THE RESCUE
You : An-no-ying :v shesh
Don't forget Eiko is A-ko not EE-ko
what eidolon is located in Esto Gaza as stated from the wall painting
A liberal
It's probably Ark. Ark is an eidolon from Terra not from their planet.
Madeen is eidolon from Esto Gaza (Terra Homing)
Hi can you help me I don't have any summon even when I am almost to the end of the game I don't know why i didn't get them?
ghaleb albalawi you have to equip them with the accessory
You need to equip Garnet and Eiko with stones (ruby, sapphire etc.) and learn the summons like you would do with an ability
ghaleb albalawi you should get them after a few hours in the game
good info but i gotta say i love the side drama of everyone going aggro about the pronunciation. it doesn't matter all that much but its interesting how people come up with different ways to say all these foreign words we never hear. what can make it confusing is that there is a western way and the native way to say these things so the way they say it in japan isn't the one and only correct way to say some of these things. also things can be said with different emphasis on certain syllables and while it may sound wrong its really not.
too bad you cant add lani as a party member
Blake Ambergaze or Beatrice or beatrix
Blake Ambergaze blank and Marco is the only character u need
Tomato, tomahto, the pronounciations dont really matter cuz they're not real words lol. I personally say "AY-dull-on," but I've also heard "Eye-DOLE-an." They're made up words, say it however u want lol. But moogles should definitely be pronounced "MOO-gull!" lmao. Btw does anyone know if theres a way to see Dagger's reaction to this?
Boo this guy
I pernounce it as "E-Dole-Ian"
I change my party to zidand vivi and quina and shes still jumping
Pretty sure that's the wrong party! Idk - been awhile since I watched this video
time to startup my ps1
It must be different on the switch. I can't get Lani to tell me about the message. Ugh
Oh no! She's VERY touchy about when she comes in and when she doesnt. It's annoying
Its pronounced Shee-Va like the hindu god. These eidolons get their names from real words so they have concrete pronunciations. Also - not Ra Moo. Its Rah Muh. Never mind the Mewgules lol jesus man are you doing this just so people comment??
Hehehehe 🤣🤣 mispronouncing things gets people SO mad and I live for it haha
It’s like saying Lifa tree instead of its real name Iifa tree with a capital i... I was saying it wrong all these years haha