Italy v All Blacks Reaction | Autumn Nations Series Rugby | 2024

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Комментарии • 123

  • @claudioristagno6460
    @claudioristagno6460 3 дня назад +43

    Italiaaaaa. Everyone said that we would lose by at least 30 points. Good game for Italy

    • @emmamannion8118
      @emmamannion8118 3 дня назад

      Italy are starting tournament, new Zealand r finishing there's so italy did really well especially considering last game against NZ

    • @kaizen2095
      @kaizen2095 3 дня назад +2

      @@emmamannion8118 excuses detected, opinion rejected

    • @ngabushallday6642
      @ngabushallday6642 3 дня назад

      Mate, to be celebrating a loss by 18 points as opposed to a loss by 30 for a team that's been in the 6 nations for 24yrs & that has players playing all over the world, well its actually quite sad to be honest.

    • @Will.Flavell
      @Will.Flavell 3 дня назад +2

      Yeah Wales is the team to beat by 30 points not Italy

    • @gcinamadonsela6193
      @gcinamadonsela6193 3 дня назад

      I personally never doubted y'all for a second 😅 I actually secretly thought you guys would win 😂

  • @gezzarandom
    @gezzarandom 3 дня назад +19

    Credit to Italy for stepping up from last year's massacre, but as you said, New Zealand were comfortable enough in the end.

  • @benrobinson375
    @benrobinson375 3 дня назад +13

    Gotta give full credit to Italy, for their defensive efforts and ability to put the AB's under pressure; I have never seen this from them to that extent. I think most people would have expected the AB's to pile 40 - 50 points on Italy at least. Aside from that, it certainly wasn't the AB's best game though, but hey they still did a fairly decent job overall.

  • @robertalderton6267
    @robertalderton6267 3 дня назад +4

    Thanks Mark. Rob from SA here. Love watching your show. You a AB , me a SAFFA, in the end we all people loving rugby. Thanks for your great channel

  • @therugbynoise2116
    @therugbynoise2116 3 дня назад +15

    Scrappy and credit to Italy fronting up and playing out of their skin but a lot stop start but yea got the W to farewell TJ n Good ole Sam Cane 💯🖤🖤 Legends

    • @Mo-yd8xc
      @Mo-yd8xc 3 дня назад +1

      My lasting memory of Sam is a red card in cup final

    • @Camcolito
      @Camcolito 3 дня назад +1

      @@Mo-yd8xc You wouldn't have been in the final except for Sam Cane playing out of his skin earlier though.

    • @Mo-yd8xc
      @Mo-yd8xc 3 дня назад

      @Camcolito I wasn't in the final. I'm not on the ABs.

  • @Canvashed
    @Canvashed 3 дня назад +17

    When the ABS are cheering and celebrating tackles ( like their fans pointed out at other teams doing it during past weeks) it was a close game more than score suggests.

    • @kurupt7154
      @kurupt7154 3 дня назад +5

      They literally only cheered the one solid shot from asafo aumua! Acting like that’s anything near turning to the crowd and screaming because you made a decent kick or because the team knocked it on withOUT your intervention is just dumb

    • @DavidSmith-yi8ou
      @DavidSmith-yi8ou 3 дня назад

      The score was the score and reflects the game. Everything else is irrelevant.

  • @Alex-mj5dv
    @Alex-mj5dv 3 дня назад +4

    Menoncello - what a player

  • @ragnarlodbrok9186
    @ragnarlodbrok9186 3 дня назад +11

    Overall a far better northern tour than I'd have expected going into it.

    • @ss2gora0
      @ss2gora0 3 дня назад

      @@portorportor8247 England on the other hand...

    • @Camcolito
      @Camcolito 3 дня назад +2

      ABs looking pretty good.

    • @Crimsonfate
      @Crimsonfate 3 дня назад +3

      Not bad considering the ab's will have pretty much a whole new backline by 2026

    • @taraishot100
      @taraishot100 3 дня назад

      @@portorportor8247well the All Blacks did have 12 debutants in their team this year and a new coach next year we will hopefully end that drought against France

    • @benrobinson375
      @benrobinson375 День назад

      Yeah given who our opponents were we did fairly well overall given the circumstances.

  • @dimetilldeath
    @dimetilldeath 3 дня назад +8

    this a record-breaking season in terms of games played for the ABS. Italy drew France, beat Scotland and Wales this year and this game was played in freezing temperatures. Turin is in the fricking mountains which isn't exactly a running rugby climate and don't forget every side turns up for All Blacks

    • @simonmaney3438
      @simonmaney3438 3 дня назад +1

      Yep, when you put it like that, not a bad effort from the AB's.
      The Ab's lose by a point, or even win by a couple, and there are still questions (I get that), but lose by 18 and people talk up the effort!? We'll never know that feeling.

    • @clementbatut4053
      @clementbatut4053 3 дня назад +3

      Italy drew against a depleted french team + an ealry red card, they can do better but it reminds me of the Argentinians saying they defeated France this summmer. Yes they won against à développement team ridden with injuries and 2 players actually in jail at the time of the game, so not exactly much to gloat about. No offense, those 2 teams have great players and may cause major upsets in the near future, especially Italy with all their youngsters but maybe they just shouldn't celebrate things that aren't actually that great. I know à lot of people thought Italy was going to take a hiding against the AB's but it's not à reason to celebrate à loss

    • @solinvictus1234
      @solinvictus1234 3 дня назад

      Actually Italy won against that France...but then colluded refrees didn't get to italians the kick repetition as it should have been done according to rules.

    • @clementbatut4053
      @clementbatut4053 3 дня назад

      @@solinvictus1234 Precisely Italy should have won but didn't and celebrating this by pretending you did win is preposterous. Noone is saying France won the last world cup, they should have, they were the better team but didn't. Italy was better than 14 french second rate players that day, i agree with this still they didn't win. As for the french cheating and buying off refs, just look how many WC France won and how they were reffed and see how preposterous your claim is. Agreed on that day Garbisi could have been given à second chance on a technicality, because the truth is he wasn't charged, there was just a french player slowly jogging offside ( Romain Taofifenua is far from our fastet player). Garbisi missed and the ref didn't give him a second chance. Get over it and stop twisting the facts

    • @solinvictus1234
      @solinvictus1234 3 дня назад

      @clementbatut4053 Sorry but s*itty example coming for you, cause you see. Italy should have won that match not cause they deserved it, but cause rugby rules said it, the Kick should have been retaken not cause the ball dropped from the tie, but cause French players charged the kicker, and that's not allowed. So refree mistake, incompetence or psycological fear trough France.
      Instead saying that France should have won the WC cause "they was the best on the paper" it's a nonsense, it's mere speculation and not factual.

  • @coreyv8150
    @coreyv8150 3 дня назад +2

    I think the Euro U20 final between Holland and Portugal will be a better watch 🙂. 18.30 CET free to watch on youtube.
    Lots of work to do for next year for the ABs.

  • @stevebinning977
    @stevebinning977 3 дня назад +5

    A lot better for Italy than the World Cup game.

  • @kaimaiiti
    @kaimaiiti 3 дня назад +11

    Have the AB's actually devolved this season? Credit to Italy, but yeah, scrappy game. I really think WR needs to sort out their dangerous play laws big time. All viewers and players want is a consistent and clear application of law. If the bunker is going to interject for "Croc-rolls" etc, they HAVE to do so when *anyone* from *either* team does it. When the Italians did the same thing that Barrett did they did not even get penalised at all. If what Barrett did was yellow-card worthy (and I agree that it was potentially dangerous), what was the mitigation that meant it *wasn't* red-card worthy? He clearly did it deliberately with intent... Sometimes we have penalties, sometimes yellow cards, sometimes red and sometimes no penalty at all for exactly the same offence. It makes the modern game a hard watch.

    • @kurupt7154
      @kurupt7154 3 дня назад +1

      Scooter didn’t actually neck roll him or land on his leg so degree of danger is low! So in theory there shouldn’t have been a card in the first place!

    • @DavidSmith-yi8ou
      @DavidSmith-yi8ou 3 дня назад +2

      No they haven’t. Pack is fine, halves and outside backs mostly fine. Midfield definitely needs looking at.

    • @mahasamatman12
      @mahasamatman12 3 дня назад

      One-eyed NZ fan, what a surprise!

    • @DavidSmith-yi8ou
      @DavidSmith-yi8ou 3 дня назад +4

      @@mahasamatman12 what’s that’s based on, other than you just hating the ABs?

  • @Will.Flavell
    @Will.Flavell 3 дня назад +11

    TJ Perenara and Sam Cane have been great for the All Blacks sad to see them go 🇳🇿

  • @blakesmith9844
    @blakesmith9844 3 дня назад +6

    Open question, what are we going to do about the centres? Both ours are garbage right now.

    • @sanjivat
      @sanjivat 3 дня назад +1

      Reiko needs to go back to wing with Proctor at 13 with Jordie at 12. May work better next year. ALB off the bench.
      Unless Super Rugby brings out the best of Riley Higgins or another centre.

  • @thephantomstranger4073
    @thephantomstranger4073 3 дня назад +2

    Italy could have been competitive and in the game but their performance can be summed up in passage of play:
    NZ maul get stopped by Italy.
    Ruzza goes through the middle and rips the ball
    Page-Relo kicks a sweet 50-22
    Italy mess up the line out :(
    The 3 hardest things the do well and mess up the easiest of the 4

    • @solinvictus1234
      @solinvictus1234 3 дня назад

      Italy have a chrinicle issue with line outs, they don't have many alternatives as the other have. And is seen it in how easily their line outs are always almost intercepted.

  • @khairilhafizi
    @khairilhafizi 3 дня назад

    Definitely need a major revamp in centers for ABs.
    Time to give the chance to Proctor full time, Higgins, AJ Lam and Tupaea.

  • @charlottescott7150
    @charlottescott7150 3 дня назад +2

    Sorry you're still not feeling great. Sounds a difficult watch at times. Did Italy have Storm Bert too? Bloody windy and rainy here!

  • @Daywalker685
    @Daywalker685 3 дня назад +1

    Ill be honest, the fact Italy lost to Samoa who couldnt even afford to go on tour and got pumped by the argies shows the ABs underperformed. But credit to Italia for putting up a great fight.

  • @rabbitss11
    @rabbitss11 3 дня назад

    So many of these games end up in the same place, over-officiated, scrappy, stop-start affairs where precious little rugby is ever played but it was a win, the AB's march on and Italy can be proud of certain aspects of their game.

  • @duncanwcraig9668
    @duncanwcraig9668 3 дня назад +1

    lets face it, we were gassed in the third quarter vs france. and we looked lethargic tonight. However, credit to Italia.
    as steve hansen would say: lets' flush the dunny and move on.
    Razor at 72% win rate. He needs to be in the 80's next year.

  • @tdubs9726tw
    @tdubs9726tw 2 дня назад

    While it is true that it was comfortable enough for the All Blacks, I still think a light should be shone on the standard of refereeing. Pierre Brousset and particularly Tual Trainini had a really bad night. The croc roll fair enough, but you just need some coherence as you've also seen red given for that in the Autumn Nations. Similarly the second ABs try came off what should have been an Italian lineout - guess the touch judge also has some responsibility there, but it was evident even from the 2nd tier of the stadium that it bounced in-field and then came off the knee of Tele’a. Similarly in the 2nd half, there was that Tuipulotu head on head tackle on Negri which in other games could have seen yellow, and how that no arm tackle/shoulder charge on Brex by Aumua wasn't even looked at is beyond me, especially when the TMO was called straight into action later on when Brex headed that ball into touch. Similarly, Fischetti complained that Lomax was engaging early, although couldn't really tell from the stands 😂. That said, Italy still have a lot to work on and ABs deserved winners

  • @Crimsonfate
    @Crimsonfate 3 дня назад +5

    Lienert brown, Ioane, telea, sevu, havili all need to be replaced

    • @taraishot100
      @taraishot100 3 дня назад +3

      The worse mid fielders in All Black history Ioane needs to go back to winger he was better there but the rest need to go imo

  • @Owensguitarstudio
    @Owensguitarstudio 3 дня назад +1

    You'd think the ball was made of soap given the inability to hold onto it. 18 knock ons by the ABs. How did Italy manage to knock on 15 times having spent the entire game either defending or kicking?
    Jeez, what a frustrating game to watch. The only impressive aspect of that game was Italy's defence, for which the ABs made no adjustments for.

  • @christiancatley4120
    @christiancatley4120 2 дня назад

    Far from the All Blacks best performance
    But credit has to go out to Italy for making it very
    difficult game!! Thanks for the review

  • @JoshuaBallinger
    @JoshuaBallinger 3 дня назад +2

    You could tell the ABS just want to go home. It’s been a long season.

  • @stevegates2228
    @stevegates2228 3 дня назад +3

    Scott Barrett is not a worthy captain and the fact Razor put him as captain over Ardie is enough for me to know Razor is not really the right coach for the A.B's. And the sad part is we have let Australia get the coach we should have had and its going to cost us in the long run.

    • @rosscooper7778
      @rosscooper7778 3 дня назад +1

      100% agree, the fact that Razor didn’t want to keep Joe and let NZR release him from his contract should have been enough of a red flag for them to know he wasn’t ready for the job

    • @craighall5551
      @craighall5551 3 дня назад

      Yawn like the last captain …? Get over it there a crusader in charge

  • @geoffreysmith49
    @geoffreysmith49 3 дня назад

    Disappointed with the selections. Rassie has blooded 12 new Bokke this year and 50 people have put on the green jersey for him. They are the best right now and a willingness to take some risks is one of the reasons for their success. We put a lot of value on experience, we need to share that experience among the younger members of our squad. Italy can hold their heads up, they left it all out there and have a good picture of their deficiencies prior to the 6N. If they can fix their set piece they can be truly competitive.

  • @christinecaspersen1229
    @christinecaspersen1229 3 дня назад +3

    Oh Mark, it was really boring😮. I just couldn't watch where there was so many mistakes on ABs. Cheers to Azzurri for giving all their best.

    • @thereader6667
      @thereader6667 3 дня назад

      Italians actually made far more mistakes on paper

  • @antonioventarola7748
    @antonioventarola7748 3 дня назад

    Italy's defense was the best thing to watch during this game.

  • @nic-ci_66-77
    @nic-ci_66-77 3 дня назад

    A real shame the ingenuity from Menoncello that arrives at the end of a really great game and costs the final 5 pts. Then, considering the six [threextwo] easy pts instead of ø arriving after the choice to go in touche in the first half, and Italy could take the defensive point 😮

  • @ΝΖΚ
    @ΝΖΚ 3 дня назад +2

    Lets gooooooooooooo

  • @chrismouton1985
    @chrismouton1985 3 дня назад

    Mark, are you running for president? Some crazy diplomacy going there...😜

  • @davidwalker2402
    @davidwalker2402 3 дня назад

    Conditions were tough for both teams. Best the ABs played was the game they lost. It’s very strange that they are not trying to introduce new players are they not there.

  • @sandorclegane3658
    @sandorclegane3658 3 дня назад +4

    A wins a win.

  • @danielsimmons7440
    @danielsimmons7440 3 дня назад

    Italy was immense on rush defence in the first 20. They couldn't keep it up.

  • @puppysoda7062
    @puppysoda7062 3 дня назад

    Remember when Reiko would catch the ball…..me neither.
    In fact he doesn’t break the line much….certainly not as much as Caleb Clark.
    Mark Talea wants to forget this game too, along with DeGroot.
    Beudon played decent, however a few players tend to run across as apposed to running straight in broken play.
    For a win I give 6/10….

  • @Chronicheartbeat
    @Chronicheartbeat 3 дня назад

    I don't think the ABs could be arsed with this one

  • @Severino_Radic
    @Severino_Radic 3 дня назад

    New rules sucks. In the pumas-france match when the referee sanctioned Montoya with a yellow card for a croc-roll he said to him "i dont like the rule but it´s what it says"

  • @michaelodonnell824
    @michaelodonnell824 3 дня назад +1

    Imagine that Scott Barrett was Australian or Irish or English?
    Do you really think his violent indiscipline would be hand-waved by the NZ Press and fans?

  • @JJaeser
    @JJaeser 3 дня назад

    We were rubbish. Why did we kick for 3 points at the start of the game?!?! We are the All Blacks for gods sake!!

  • @TPRugbyfan
    @TPRugbyfan 3 дня назад

    Typical end of season game where NZ players look tired and longing for a beach break. Can’t really blame them for that!

  • @zealanCA
    @zealanCA 3 дня назад

    Run meters? I think it’s more accurate to say “walk meters”

  • @rhysduncan8676
    @rhysduncan8676 3 дня назад

    The ABs looked dominant but couldn't finish anything imo

  • @michaelsteel4566
    @michaelsteel4566 3 дня назад

    Thought the referee let the ABs off with a lot. Dunno how it wasn't an Italian line out in the build up to the second try. Scrappy but entertaining game.

    • @kurupt7154
      @kurupt7154 3 дня назад

      What about what Italy got away with? Laying all over the ball! Entering rucks from the side! Impeding the ball in the ruck! Multiple offsides not called! Croc rolls missed off the ball contact missed?

    • @taraishot100
      @taraishot100 3 дня назад

      lol the ref penalised the AB’s a lot what the hell were you watching couch potato

    • @nicholaslead6016
      @nicholaslead6016 3 дня назад

      Yes I thought the ball came of Telea’s shin into touch, and so did the NZ commentators. 22-11 should be

    • @rhysduncan8676
      @rhysduncan8676 3 дня назад

      In regards to the lineout - it bounced in the field of play, then crossed the plane of touch, then touched Tele'a - the correct decision is an NZ lineout

    • @michaelsteel4566
      @michaelsteel4566 3 дня назад

      @@taraishot100lol. Are you having a dig at me for not being at the game? 😂 1,000 miles from where I live involving 2 teams I've no affiliation with? Weird comment that. My neutral point of view is the ABs could have been pinged more.

  • @Terminox234
    @Terminox234 3 дня назад +1

    All Blacks need to drop rieko alb and jordie. AJ Lam, Leicester Faingaanuku and Tupaea in

  • @anro1075
    @anro1075 3 дня назад

    Well well well… let’s talk about that second try and how it came…

  • @mixmastermootree
    @mixmastermootree 3 дня назад

    RAYGUN ROBERTSON

  • @ziyaadhjulius2645
    @ziyaadhjulius2645 3 дня назад

    Tough being a NZ coach. Has to balance legacy and this all important 80% plus win rate. The rotation of players and blooding of players has been so bad for NZ . The fear of losing games which they should normally win is too much to try new players.

  • @ethancoster1324
    @ethancoster1324 3 дня назад +1

    Man that I was hard to watch.

  • @user-RONcq6zv8r
    @user-RONcq6zv8r 3 дня назад +4

    This was a very scrappy game for us All Blacks but we got the win 👊🙌🙌🙌

  • @Jase1000-p2f
    @Jase1000-p2f 3 дня назад

    Meh its the last game of the tour against a team giving it their all ,good tour without being great .The france loss was a missed opportunity but theres been development so razor will be happy .The south wins again but france are a great team to watch the other teams dont hold a candle to them in the north they look very dangerous

  • @GeorgeJordan-s2y
    @GeorgeJordan-s2y 3 дня назад

    NZ got lucky For a few off those scores, terrible defending from Italy .

  • @murraysmith595
    @murraysmith595 3 дня назад

    Poor performance. Far to flat for conditions and Italy's line speed. Constantly players getting ball and defender at the same time.. We have been poor in the Air all year. With the new clear Runway law on kicks, would being able to win contestables be the most important skill when Selecting a back 3 players going forward.

  • @Tuatara587
    @Tuatara587 3 дня назад

    The worst coached AB team I have seen in the 55 years I have been following the ABs. Fair credit to Italy, but tis team is not cohesive and lacks the dynamism and ruthlessness that we have come to expect.

  • @thinking4902
    @thinking4902 3 дня назад +1

    The aBs were terrible , it is a win but a shocking display of professional rugby, AB have not a convincing win all year

  • @runforrestrun1965
    @runforrestrun1965 3 дня назад +2

    Shite game, another team with tactic against the ABs to not really play rugby but to take every opportunity to slow it down or stall the game. Terrible game. All about not letting the score blow out by Italy. Sorry but flush this shite game and come home job done

    • @solinvictus1234
      @solinvictus1234 3 дня назад

      Sure buddy. According to what i've seen was the Ab's to playing anti-rugby, slowing the ball down sistematically for 25 minutes in the first half and for 15 minutes in the second one, when the Italians keep then inside the Ab's half field...costantly.

  • @lukeheywood7334
    @lukeheywood7334 2 дня назад

    Awful end of tour all blacks cards errors moral vitory for italy razor needs cange selection policy next practi e catch pass i mean really its a worry repect to tj and sammy

  • @2msystems740
    @2msystems740 3 дня назад +2

    AB's allow a 2nd tier team to front up to them, how pathetic.

    • @kurupt7154
      @kurupt7154 3 дня назад

      Ah yes let’s not credit the Italians with turning up on defence all night let’s just pretend they aren’t a good team! They literally got cheated out of victories in the 6-nations this year! They are a 6 nations team!

    • @2msystems740
      @2msystems740 3 дня назад

      @kurupt7154
      A good team?
      Made to look like school boys a week ago.

  • @My1notyours0409
    @My1notyours0409 3 дня назад +1

    Terrible game. Quite embarrassing if you ask me.

    • @thereader6667
      @thereader6667 3 дня назад

      Italy were terrible to watch, if they had played how they had in the past 6N, they might have actually won.

  • @hansdedipper2912
    @hansdedipper2912 3 дня назад

    😂😂
    And you reckon NZ deserves a 2nd ranking.
    ▪️Good to see Lomax hasn't lost any speed when reversing in the scrum
    ▪️Drop the Haka. It's BORING and waste of time. Rather do the YMCA, which will give crowd a chance to join😂😂😂😂

    • @rileyfreeman9726
      @rileyfreeman9726 3 дня назад +1

      The all blacks should drop the Haka because a clown on the internet said so?

    • @nvwcj22
      @nvwcj22 3 дня назад

      ​@@rileyfreeman9726an idiot clown!!! 😂🤣🤡

  • @KIWINZ2024
    @KIWINZ2024 3 дня назад

    The allblacks are a big skip bin absolutely trash big disappointment this year, they look like they don’t know what they’re doing on the field, pick and go left then right, work to one side then rip them up with set piece

    • @kurupt7154
      @kurupt7154 3 дня назад

      All of your comments are moronic! Are you actually this useless with your rugby knowledge or just a troll?

    • @lauriecarter8931
      @lauriecarter8931 3 дня назад

      Yeah their trash they just won 4 outa 5 !!!

    • @KIWINZ2024
      @KIWINZ2024 3 дня назад

      @ they won 10 games out of 14 and gained new record loses and also brought the total win percentage down. Not a good year for Allblacks standards

    • @KIWINZ2024
      @KIWINZ2024 2 дня назад

      @@lauriecarter8931 fozzies team was 78% win record last year. This year it’s dropped to 71%. Do your homework before trying to be sarcastic