Speaking as a hiker The function of a jetboil does not justify its weight over a mini brs stove. Bringing an additional 13 ounces of weight to boil water 30-40 seconds faster isn't worth it. I wouldn't doubt in some conditions/environments the jetboil would reign supreme but for the vast majority a humble brs is king.
I used to use the Pocket Rocket, but I switched to the Jet Boil Flash because I found that the places we were backpacking didn't have a lot of flat spots and I had the pot fall off a time or two and with my kids, spilling hot water was a concern. But I got a Toaks 750 and BRS for times where I needed to save weight and space. While the BRS/Toaks combo work well for far less money, I still find the Jet Boil more convenient to use because its easier to handle while hot, the lid stays on, its more fuel efficient and more stable in uneven terrain. But now they have the Jet Boil Stash which is only 7.1oz, so while it doesn't compete with BRS/Toaks on price, I am thinking it might be the best of both worlds feature to weight-wise. Another thing I find intriguing about the Stash is that the pot and lighter can attach to the inside of the lid so those things are not contacting the pot. I have gotten rust in my pot before from the fuel can sitting in the pot.
I say the same thing about a little flat pack twig stove v gas. No fuel to carry and it’s totally under 150 grams. I don’t know about you folks in the states but it makes a lot of sense here in Australia as there’s so much fuel just laying around that mostly you don’t even have to get up off your sit pad to keep it going. No good for high summer due to total fire bans but that’s true of gas burners too.
Yeah the trouble here is that those are banned for most of the good months of backpacking here in the western US. But canister stoves are usually allowed year round.
Love my Mighty Mo. For years I have watched everyone debate this point. Here's my take and why the Jetboil is almost identical to any other cook kit. Ok, It has a pot, a bowl, a coozie, a lid, a stove, and gas. Even if you use the Brs stove, you buy a pot, a coozie, a lighter and a can of gas. Not going to be a bunch of size difference period. Weight... ok, maybe, but with Jetboil you get a superior system in the wind and a much more stable system. Yes, all I do is boil water. In my opinion... why would you want the added "weight that everyone is worried about" in a 3lb leg of lamb, on a backpacking trip? Just my thoughts. Thanks for sharing.👴
@DadCamps actually the honeymooners with Jackie Gleason had me on leg of lamb. But basically I was being a smart ass about all the fancy cooking and food that folks do or want to do on backpacking excursions. Me just being silly and enjoying your vid. Thanks again.
An unashamed plug for the Jetboil .. and why not, it is a good product. Any cooker used outdoors should have an accompanying separate windscreen. The obsession (especially in the USA) with 'boil time and weight' .. 🙄. Boil time is not necessarily linked directly to fuel efficiency. A lower heat setting will more often than not, result in better fuel efficiency .. albeit taking a bit longer. The BRS, by all accounts enjoys a good reputation. If it were me, I would settle for the BRS, a Pot, Canister Footpiece and a Collapsible Wind Screen. But then, I already have a 'Camping Gaz 206 Bluet' Stove w Integrated Wind Screen that I bought back in the '70's and still use regularly. The Gas Cylinders, I can get down the road at my local Food Store and just about anywhere in Europe. Cost / Gram of Fuel Content .. the cheapest I can find. It does the job .. very well at that .. and .. it's paid for. A good review .. thanks. Question if I may please? Why the reverse baseball cap indoors?
Agreed but I don't think the average backpacker typically brings a windscreen. That's one of the points I was trying to convey here, is just how valuable they really are. As for the hat - just lazily covering up my messy hair. Haha!
Well honestly Ive usually not carried one and just try to block it with my body or pack, but yeah mainly was trying to demonstrate where the jetboil really shines. However that performance gap can be quickly bridged with a simple sheet of aluminum foil.
😊 Great review! So many great thoughts… I just can’t give up my jet boil though! I have the minimo along with the frying pan and the 1.5 L pot so we can cook meals when we go backpacking. It’s never failed me and when I needed to upgrade parts that were getting worn (lid, cup etc) Jetboil has always sent me free parts. Amazing customer service that you can’t get from the Chinese companies.
Thank you! I know the feeling. You could buy 10 replacement BRSs for 1 jetboil though. Just saying. Do you like the frying pan though? It’s not too hard to cook on for you?
Hey, I love the frying pan. It’s a little on the small side for a family of four, but it did a great job and cleaned up just with a quick wipe. One of my girls’ favourite meals is sausages and dehydrated mashed potatoes so the frying pan is a must! It’s really sturdy and well built as well… I have other frying pans: MSR, cast-iron, GSI, Trangia… This is definitely one of my favourites though.
@@scetis Might have to give it a try! I'm curious - how do you pack the sausages? are the pre-cooked? or do you just bring them frozen and cook them on night 1 or what?
@@DadCamps yes… We just bring frozen sausages that I pre-cooked on the barbeque so there’s a bit of charm on it. I did it once and the girls loved it so it’s become a family tradition for first night on the trail! It’s of course a bit heavy but for the first night, we don’t have to carry it for that long!
Yeah that’s fair enough. Just had so many thoughts to share in this one. But I need to channel “The Bear” and Subtract! It took way to long to edit this. 😂
My wife and kids aren't going to carry their own stove and boil their own water, so the efficiency of the jet boil helps me boil water for them. We usually eat out of the bag so we only need one pot. They drink out of their Nalgene's.
Speaking as a hiker The function of a jetboil does not justify its weight over a mini brs stove. Bringing an additional 13 ounces of weight to boil water 30-40 seconds faster isn't worth it. I wouldn't doubt in some conditions/environments the jetboil would reign supreme but for the vast majority a humble brs is king.
Agreed, pretty succinctly said the main thing I was trying to convey in a very long and drawn out manner in this video. 😂
@@DadCamps Also relatable and Entertaining! ..Cheers!!
I used to use the Pocket Rocket, but I switched to the Jet Boil Flash because I found that the places we were backpacking didn't have a lot of flat spots and I had the pot fall off a time or two and with my kids, spilling hot water was a concern. But I got a Toaks 750 and BRS for times where I needed to save weight and space. While the BRS/Toaks combo work well for far less money, I still find the Jet Boil more convenient to use because its easier to handle while hot, the lid stays on, its more fuel efficient and more stable in uneven terrain. But now they have the Jet Boil Stash which is only 7.1oz, so while it doesn't compete with BRS/Toaks on price, I am thinking it might be the best of both worlds feature to weight-wise. Another thing I find intriguing about the Stash is that the pot and lighter can attach to the inside of the lid so those things are not contacting the pot. I have gotten rust in my pot before from the fuel can sitting in the pot.
Good Video Adam, thanks for the comparison and talking about scenarios for each stove.
Thanks David!
A lot of thru hikers use the BRS for months on end. It's not just for day trips or 2 night trips
Yep, its got a solid reputation for sure.
I say the same thing about a little flat pack twig stove v gas. No fuel to carry and it’s totally under 150 grams. I don’t know about you folks in the states but it makes a lot of sense here in Australia as there’s so much fuel just laying around that mostly you don’t even have to get up off your sit pad to keep it going. No good for high summer due to total fire bans but that’s true of gas burners too.
Yeah the trouble here is that those are banned for most of the good months of backpacking here in the western US. But canister stoves are usually allowed year round.
cleanup of sud might be an argument against using woodstoves.
But yeah, if they are legal, they are a fine option.
Love my Mighty Mo. For years I have watched everyone debate this point. Here's my take and why the Jetboil is almost identical to any other cook kit. Ok, It has a pot, a bowl, a coozie, a lid, a stove, and gas. Even if you use the Brs stove, you buy a pot, a coozie, a lighter and a can of gas. Not going to be a bunch of size difference period. Weight... ok, maybe, but with Jetboil you get a superior system in the wind and a much more stable system. Yes, all I do is boil water. In my opinion... why would you want the added "weight that everyone is worried about" in a 3lb leg of lamb, on a backpacking trip? Just my thoughts. Thanks for sharing.👴
Thanks for watching! Not sure I get the leg of lamb reference. What's that from?
@DadCamps actually the honeymooners with Jackie Gleason had me on leg of lamb. But basically I was being a smart ass about all the fancy cooking and food that folks do or want to do on backpacking excursions. Me just being silly and enjoying your vid. Thanks again.
I use the jet boil press with my toaks 750ml. Also works with the 650ml and 550ml.
Nice! Good to know it works on the larger sizes too.
An unashamed plug for the Jetboil .. and why not, it is a good product.
Any cooker used outdoors should have an accompanying separate windscreen.
The obsession (especially in the USA) with 'boil time and weight' .. 🙄.
Boil time is not necessarily linked directly to fuel efficiency. A lower heat setting will more often than not, result in better fuel efficiency .. albeit taking a bit longer.
The BRS, by all accounts enjoys a good reputation.
If it were me, I would settle for the BRS, a Pot, Canister Footpiece and a Collapsible Wind Screen.
But then, I already have a 'Camping Gaz 206 Bluet' Stove w Integrated Wind Screen that I bought back in the '70's and still use regularly. The Gas Cylinders, I can get down the road at my local Food Store and just about anywhere in Europe. Cost / Gram of Fuel Content .. the cheapest I can find. It does the job .. very well at that .. and .. it's paid for.
A good review .. thanks.
Question if I may please? Why the reverse baseball cap indoors?
Agreed but I don't think the average backpacker typically brings a windscreen. That's one of the points I was trying to convey here, is just how valuable they really are. As for the hat - just lazily covering up my messy hair. Haha!
I mean who boils in straight up wind with no screen or break, right?
Well honestly Ive usually not carried one and just try to block it with my body or pack, but yeah mainly was trying to demonstrate where the jetboil really shines. However that performance gap can be quickly bridged with a simple sheet of aluminum foil.
😊 Great review! So many great thoughts… I just can’t give up my jet boil though! I have the minimo along with the frying pan and the 1.5 L pot so we can cook meals when we go backpacking. It’s never failed me and when I needed to upgrade parts that were getting worn (lid, cup etc) Jetboil has always sent me free parts. Amazing customer service that you can’t get from the Chinese companies.
Thank you! I know the feeling. You could buy 10 replacement BRSs for 1 jetboil though. Just saying. Do you like the frying pan though? It’s not too hard to cook on for you?
Hey, I love the frying pan. It’s a little on the small side for a family of four, but it did a great job and cleaned up just with a quick wipe. One of my girls’ favourite meals is sausages and dehydrated mashed potatoes so the frying pan is a must! It’s really sturdy and well built as well… I have other frying pans: MSR, cast-iron, GSI, Trangia… This is definitely one of my favourites though.
@@scetis Might have to give it a try! I'm curious - how do you pack the sausages? are the pre-cooked? or do you just bring them frozen and cook them on night 1 or what?
@@DadCamps yes… We just bring frozen sausages that I pre-cooked on the barbeque so there’s a bit of charm on it. I did it once and the girls loved it so it’s become a family tradition for first night on the trail! It’s of course a bit heavy but for the first night, we don’t have to carry it for that long!
@@scetis love it!
Nice review! Too long but nothing a chapter selector could not solve.
Yeah that’s fair enough. Just had so many thoughts to share in this one. But I need to channel “The Bear” and Subtract! It took way to long to edit this. 😂
used the BRS on the AT (2200 miles) never had any issues. the jetboil just too bulky & expensive.
That's awesome to hear - kinda mind blowing how reliable it is.
Your multiple people scenario doesn't make sense. It's cheaper and lighter to buy 3 BRS stoves. Like you said, everyone has to carry a cup anyway.
But then you'd also need 3 cans of fuel. If you're all sharing one can of fuel it makes a small benefit of using the JB by improving the boil times.
My wife and kids aren't going to carry their own stove and boil their own water, so the efficiency of the jet boil helps me boil water for them. We usually eat out of the bag so we only need one pot. They drink out of their Nalgene's.
Fire Maple G3 Petrel Pot is a good pair for the BRS
An excellent pot, but the BRS doesnt fit without bending the pot stands
That’s what I understood too. Let me know if y’all are seeing anything different!