The Hype series is a "true" hybrid configuration whereas Oracle Mk1-3 belong to the Tribrid series. You refer to the similar price point Thieaudio to the driver configuration.
I got to try the pre-production unit at CANJAM LDN and I do like it but not sure what to make of it, the bass rumble is very real though. I would like to spend more time with it before I make a conclusion (for ref, I daily drive a HEXA and a Prestige LTD). They're the same size as the Prestige LTD if not a bit smaller but please do not quote me on it.
@@tanjacky5780 Bassier for sure, more textured to my ear with a better rumble (possibly contributed by the bone conductor driver). The treble is a little smoother up top, but the transient is weird (I don't know how to describe it - but when brassware or a snare sound hangs in the air). I find PLTD already coloured in the bass and Treble (to my preference); it is my 'fun' travel-to-work set. Origin is easier to drive, as it comes out louder than the PLTD from the test rig provided by ThieAudio. Within their product line I still prefer PLTD over MKiii, but I can't place where the Origin belongs in their product line just yet. Not sure if that answer your question, but I do want to listen to it (Origin) again that is for certain.
Man, I really like your references. They're not overreacting and annoying, and they're not boring. I just like this atmosphere, and I'd really like to see you experiment and review Monarch MKII sony ier-z1r mest mkii Thank you and I wish you a good time
sounds amazing to me as I got to demo it, only main issue was that the bass sometime might bleed into the mids and make the track sound a bit muddy. but other than that, its really nice iem
From the Y-split down it seems the same. Unlike the Titan S2 cable, this Lyre Mini is nylon above the Y-split, which does make it more prone to microphonics but I don't really mind.
@@SuperReview preferably same tuning, with improvements in various technical aspects (assuming driver technological improvements). I've always thought it's odd to keep the model name but not the tuning.
This seems like quite a strong set, I hope there's a sample that I can listen to at SoCal canjam this year. I'm a bit wary of Linsoul after my negative experience dealing with their CIEM service though.
@@Daniel-lq5qq second time I have seen this. The SM4 is quite the value. What about the Simgot EM10? I am likely going to pick up a SM4. Your recommendation is quite a draw.
It has a cleaner midrange than the Hype 4 with a bit more "weight" and contrast to the sound, bass is more isolated. vs. Dusk, the Dusk has sharper transients all around and much better vocal texturing IMO.
I have an Oracle mk 2......and it is excellent. Bonus was , I got it at a great price, because experts said it 'wasn't as good as the original'. So , did Thieaudio make a mistake? Or bow to pressure? The cable provided with the MK 2 has 2 pin connections for a recessed mount as you used in the video.....however, the connection on the MK 2 shell is flush.....with NO recess, making the connection more liable to damage in handling. Award for the money really. Poor show for the money.
Yes and no. It's less bass than Hype 4, so people looking for that won't find it to be an upgrade. I think the midrange is cleaner and more transparent on Oracle, so I like it.
Honest Audiophle claims that this was supposed to be his collab but that ThieAudio snubbed hima nd stole his tuning recommendation. Check out his review, he makes claim at the end.
@@SnobAudiophile I don't think he made a strong enough argument to demand a public response. I don't doubt that he had discussions about a collab and that the discussions dropped without explanation -- that's fairly unremarkable, though I understand why it'd be disappointing. If his feedback directly resulted in the resulting tuning of the mk3, he'll need to share more specifics to make that obvious.
Hype 6 Monarch mk2 Oracle mk3 All very close and good. Oracle 2 + Monarch mk3 are for me garbage. They sound so bad! This is it, 500uss is the top right now Oracle mj3 + 5 mega est + blessing 3/dusk. And you get everything what almost possible.
Oracle MkIII feels more like a Hype 6 to me. Better than MKII but I still take the OG Oracle anyday
Gonna be hard to convince mk1 faithfuls.
The Hype series is a "true" hybrid configuration whereas Oracle Mk1-3 belong to the Tribrid series. You refer to the similar price point Thieaudio to the driver configuration.
I dunno why they make it 2DD 2BA 2EST instead of 2DD 4BA 2EST
Welcome back 4-star Mark. I recently got the Oracle OG and I love it.
I think the og oracle is still pretty good I sold it a few weeks ago…I regret it.
The new Thieaudio Origin with EST and bone conductor makes me very intrigued
But will it be massive 🥵
I got to try the pre-production unit at CANJAM LDN and I do like it but not sure what to make of it, the bass rumble is very real though. I would like to spend more time with it before I make a conclusion (for ref, I daily drive a HEXA and a Prestige LTD). They're the same size as the Prestige LTD if not a bit smaller but please do not quote me on it.
@@SuperReview I got a Mext and I gotta say I might give that a whirl too, maybe, I want a Mest Mk 2 lol
@@GCKOgckoAny more comparisons between PLTD and Origin? I also own a PLTD, but I find it a bit lack of Bass.
@@tanjacky5780 Bassier for sure, more textured to my ear with a better rumble (possibly contributed by the bone conductor driver). The treble is a little smoother up top, but the transient is weird (I don't know how to describe it - but when brassware or a snare sound hangs in the air). I find PLTD already coloured in the bass and Treble (to my preference); it is my 'fun' travel-to-work set. Origin is easier to drive, as it comes out louder than the PLTD from the test rig provided by ThieAudio. Within their product line I still prefer PLTD over MKiii, but I can't place where the Origin belongs in their product line just yet. Not sure if that answer your question, but I do want to listen to it (Origin) again that is for certain.
Man, I really like your references. They're not overreacting and annoying, and they're not boring. I just like this atmosphere, and I'd really like to see you experiment and review
Monarch MKII
sony ier-z1r
mest mkii
Thank you and I wish you a good time
sounds amazing to me as I got to demo it, only main issue was that the bass sometime might bleed into the mids and make the track sound a bit muddy. but other than that, its really nice iem
Thanks Mr. Ryan. Probably I will stay with the Original Oracle but that Dunu cable looks interesting. Is it the same one that is on the Titan Mk2?
From the Y-split down it seems the same. Unlike the Titan S2 cable, this Lyre Mini is nylon above the Y-split, which does make it more prone to microphonics but I don't really mind.
Looking forward to hearing the MKIII. I played with the tuning on the MKII and it comes up nicely, but needs it for sure.
After getting the Truthear Hexa , I’m seriously starting to look sideways 🤔 at all these $500 plus IEMS.
Dangerous! TBH I was listening to Hexa last night and remarking at how good it is.
Like in all of hifi the value falls off a cliff after really low prices.
The Dunu Lyre cable is goated and I found out not too long ago that they have $10 USBC ends for it
I ordered one of the $10 USB connectors, curious to check it out in a few weeks.
@@SuperReview I ordered 2 lol
What a super-b review! Looks like Thieaudio have no intention for a direct update/upgrade of the mk1
What would you like to see from an actual mk1 upgrade?
@@SuperReview preferably same tuning, with improvements in various technical aspects (assuming driver technological improvements).
I've always thought it's odd to keep the model name but not the tuning.
Another banger just like the outro music
a great review. thanks.
I would love a review of thieaudio orgin.
I think the best value proposition for IEMs with cost, sound quality and cable quality as the major factors, nothing can beat the OG Elysian pilgrim.
Pilgrim or Pilgrim Noir bro?
Pilgrim or Pilgrim Noir bro?
It's the og pilgrim
Not the noir
i love the orange cap ❤
felt like coming back to the old days 😂
That's when you know I need a haircut.
@@SuperReview 😂
@@SuperReview what brand is your hat?
@@stevenpark4226 Yupoong manufactured, the logo is from a local goat farm
This seems like quite a strong set, I hope there's a sample that I can listen to at SoCal canjam this year. I'm a bit wary of Linsoul after my negative experience dealing with their CIEM service though.
I'll bring this unit with me. And fair concerns.
@@SuperReview Nice! It'll be great to see you again.
Great review. In your opinion is there an iem that does what dusk does but better?
Thanks
I'm curious about which iems are 5 star in Mark's book. I might consider checking those out for my next purchase.
I remember dusk being one. But I’m not sure I want to gamble with moondrop again
I still like the og Oracle, but this one certainly looks better than than the mk2.
What is your rating for Simgot Supermix 4?
Only heard it briefly, was kinda sibilant / intense for me.
@@SuperReviewwith hidition B Tuning and hiby fc6 its endgame
@@Daniel-lq5qq second time I have seen this. The SM4 is quite the value. What about the Simgot EM10? I am likely going to pick up a SM4. Your recommendation is quite a draw.
@@earlybird3668 never heard this one
@@Daniel-lq5qq what's the hidition b tuning?
What cable do you have on the mega5est?
Hola / Gate cable
Is that cable better for it than the original cable?
How does this compare to the em10 , dusk and the hype 4?
Alao thanks for the video mate
It has a cleaner midrange than the Hype 4 with a bit more "weight" and contrast to the sound, bass is more isolated. vs. Dusk, the Dusk has sharper transients all around and much better vocal texturing IMO.
@@SuperReview thanks Mark! Will you be reviewing the simgot em10?
No, no plans to.
@@SuperReview damn, would have loved to know your opinion about them
@@SuperReviewso Moondrop better vocals than Thieaudio For you?
Meteor is Meatier 😉 It got it where its packing.
It's the other way around, the Symphonium Meatier is meteor.
This looks much better than og Oracle
Whats the cable on the Meteor Mark❓😊 Thank you for the review..
Titan S2 cable
How does it compare with I/O Volare? Similar price and similar graph or so it seems.
IMO Oracle midrange is much cleaner and spacious, stereo image is wider, and bass is more isolated. Volare is a bit more traditionally warm-vee.
IE600 still competing in this price category?
Still among my favorites.
How does it compare to mk1 when eqing to that?
I will skip this for sure. Waiting for Thieaudio Origin with bone conduction.
I have an Oracle mk 2......and it is excellent. Bonus was , I got it at a great price, because experts said it 'wasn't as good as the original'. So , did Thieaudio make a mistake? Or bow to pressure? The cable provided with the MK 2 has 2 pin connections for a recessed mount as you used in the video.....however, the connection on the MK 2 shell is flush.....with NO recess, making the connection more liable to damage in handling. Award for the money really. Poor show for the money.
I have been eyeing this one, but AFUL Cantor is now being advertised. I can only make money for one of them.
The never ending dilemma.
Did they release the FR graph yet?
Would you consider this to be a worthwhile upgrade from the hype 4?
Yes and no. It's less bass than Hype 4, so people looking for that won't find it to be an upgrade. I think the midrange is cleaner and more transparent on Oracle, so I like it.
@@SuperReview Thanks, that's super helpful. I actually find the Hype 4 bass to be too much for my taste, so may consider these
Can you provide a like to that 2-pin Dunu cable, please?
This is it: www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806765829618.html
I was wonder how the fit is in comparison to the studio4s.
Studio4 is smaller and more comfy for me. This is more secure.
@@SuperReviewthank you for the response, guess the oracle will be too big for me :/
That's a beautiful cable
Honest Audiophle claims that this was supposed to be his collab but that ThieAudio snubbed hima nd stole his tuning recommendation. Check out his review, he makes claim at the end.
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh
@@SuperReview there hasn't been a response from Linsoul and TheiAudio disputing the claim so does that mean there is some truth to it?
@@SnobAudiophile I don't think he made a strong enough argument to demand a public response. I don't doubt that he had discussions about a collab and that the discussions dropped without explanation -- that's fairly unremarkable, though I understand why it'd be disappointing. If his feedback directly resulted in the resulting tuning of the mk3, he'll need to share more specifics to make that obvious.
@@SuperReview very true. Maybe one day he'll get a collab, I think he deserves one.
But does it blend
100% a Blendtec would destroy this thing.
Don't breath this @@SuperReview
I think this should be compared thoroughly with the dusk.
Hype 6
Monarch mk2
Oracle mk3
All very close and good.
Oracle 2 + Monarch mk3 are for me garbage. They sound so bad!
This is it, 500uss is the top right now
Oracle mj3 + 5 mega est + blessing 3/dusk. And you get everything what almost possible.
I have the hype 4 is it worth returning those and getting these?
Do you want something with more, less, or the same bass?
@@SuperReview the bass is enough I wouldn't want more bass because wouldn't that take away or wash more of the highs away?
nice cap
Am I the only one who liked the mk2? 😂