Every Station Name Change on the Northern Line
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- From Merton to Watling, from East End to Oxford Street, a trip along an alternative version of the Northern Line.
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"I 'm not a historian, I only play one on RUclips"....priceless!
All you truly need to know to understand the Barnet branch, is that East Finchley is the Southern most station in Finchley, Finchley Central is the Western most station in Finchley, and West Finchley is geographically central to the preceding two and the most northern of all stations in Finchley.
Once you wrap your head around this logic, everything else on the Northern Line makes sense.
And the Northern Line is not the most northerly line, but it is the most southerly line. 💁🏻♀️
Not tube related but check out Canterbury East and West on a map
At Highgate, the entry barriers should be a little bit taller.
lol
I always notice how the automatic announcer on the train pronounces the name in a very posh way, with the "gate" part being pronounced more like "get" although with more of an "eh" sound.
@@ajs41 I lived in London for a summer in 1991. When I returned to Canada, I'd acquired the "dropped vowel" pronunciation of words like strawb'ry, raspb'ry, Highg'te...
@@ajs41 It's because British people don't know how to pronounce the language they stole.
7:40 In a parallel universe, the Rev Audrey stories were about stations, not trains. Badly behaved stations had their names changed and were bricked up in tunnels.
King William Street being the worst of stations
Tiler : "How Do You Like The Tiling, Guv? It's All Me Best Work" .... Guv : "Hmm, Yes, It's All Very Nice, But Sorry, We've Changed Our Minds And Now It's Called Something Else"
Something Else is certainly an unusual name for a station! 🤣
My new "Old git" card arrived yesterday - I foresee a Northern Line trip in my very near future.
Congrats 👏
@@SecretSquirrelFun I was impressed - it's not "due" for over a week, but it worked on the bus yesterday. :-)
I'm 5 years away from mine. I wonder whether they'll still exist by that time.
Mine arrived seven years ago - I've travelled more in those seven years than I did in all of the previous 60 put together
@@eddisstreet eight years from Clapham Common to Chancery Lane, then ten more from East Acton to Bank, then a final fifteen from Mudchute to Bank. I don't miss it.
'I'm not a........! I just play one on RUclips!' is the meme of the day!
Send to Tom Scott and Matt Parker .... (simon too ??)
Clapham? No, I didn't think they were worthy of applause.
Heyooooo!
So by not changing its name, you could describe High Barnet as being well Beehive'd.
Anyone else fascinated by Jago's voice? It's a voice that I could listen to all Day, regardless of the subject. And to add to that, he's funny😂
Ah, Finchley Central. Celebrated by The New Vaudeville Band
Glad I'm not the only one who was singing that under his breath.
Some snobby git wrote to the Railway Magazine when the name was changed to Finchley Central, saying "No-one could imagine anything but tube trains calling at such a station".
If High Barnet could be taken as representing hair on the top of one's head, I do wonder where Low Barnet might have been located
Is that kind of comment suitable for a pubic forum?
How could we NOT like your videos, Jago. Always, good, interesting, informative and fun.
It's been a long, long time since I heard the word "Swizz" used. That took me right back to third year secondary school circa 1982. Kudos to Jago for slipping that one in. Gratuitous use off the words "Suss" or "Itchy Chin" eagerly anticipated for future episodes.
Jimmy Hill! Jimmy rec-on! Etc, etc.
@@AtheistOrphan Yes! The classic "Jimmy Hill" accompanied by furious rubbing of the Chin.
@@fightersweep - 1970’s school days memories coming flooding back now, must clear mind and get to sleep!
Well itch my beard, that take's me back.
@@AtheistOrphan Was Jimmy Benny's lesser known brother? Asking for a friend.
These videos are so nostalgic for me as I lived in London for almost forty years before retiring back to my native Australia. For a change from the tube videos I often watch bus tours around London as well. These unpretentious videos make me feel as though I have never left, so I can happily enjoy being in both worlds!
That was a stonker! Well done Sir.
Ah, Finchley Central by the New Vaudeville Band... (1966)...
🎶 Finchley Central is two and sixpence
From Golders Green on the Northern Line
And on the platform, by the kiosk
That's where you said you'd be mine
There we made a date
For hours I waited
But I'm blowed, she never showed.
Finchley Central, ten long stations
From Golders Green, change at Camden Town
I thought I'd made you
But I'm afraid you really let me down
Two and sixpence
Mind the doors please...🎶
3d on the bus over the hill and about 10 bus stops much quicker
@@highpath4776 🤔...🤭😃
My dad sings that all the time. I wasn't completely convinced he hadn't made it up.
That was fascinating, particularly as I live on the Northern Line. Well, maybe not on the actual line, more like in an area served by the route.
You could live in the flats above Clapham South.
You could literally live on the Northern Line if you were a tube mouse!
I live directly in the points change that goes to Mill Hill East.
4:43 - Flats directly above a tube station? Very handy! I wonder how many other stations have flats incorporated into the station building.
My flat only overlooks a station, being about 50 metres from it.
I lived in a two-level flat above one of the shops next to Preston Road station for a year in the mid 90's. Our bathroom looked almost directly over the southbound fast Met platform, and boy was that noisy when one of those Fast Aldgate trains went through!
Totteridge and Whetstone had signs on the platforms just reading "Totteridge" for many years in the 80's, although it was never just shown as "Totteridge" on any maps.
Yes I remember those too ....good call
I was gonna comment on that, I was a guard on the Northern in 1990 and the signs were still there.
great stuff, thank you. it's like setting me homework, i'll have to go visit those signs now :o) cheers.
They should bring Kings Cross for St Pancras back. It’s so sensible and proper sounding. I love how many stations they nearly called something else but couldn’t be bothered to change the tiling and signs for.
0:53 You should keep a screwdriver in your pocket at all times, to see what it really says behind the overlayed signage!
Overlaid*
@@AtheistOrphan Thanks - that’s a relief!
Was that a Harrinngton Hump at Archway at 6'32''? Otherwise, how we would all have laughed had the flower power gen embarked en masse by tube to Woodstock, only to disembark and discover the grim reality of Brent X shopping centre!
Just FYI, if you put the timestamp as digits 06:32 then it becomes a link
As a Yank, I've been wondering why they have those elevation changes in the platforms. Seems like a good way for somebody to lose footing and end up on the track.
"London's Local Railways" by Alan A Jackson (2nd ed 1999) has a 1937 photo of the station on that little spur carrying the imposing legend "Mill Hill East for Mill Hill Barracks". This was of course before its incorporation into the Northern Line.
...but this seems to explain the reason for the spur.
... and then there was the Bull and Bush which was gonna be called North End Station - but we were saved from this as (AFAIK) the station never opened for passenger use?
Supposedly, had it opened, that would have been the deepest station, yet Golders Green, only a few hundred yards away, is surface level.
Not only never opened, but was only partially built.
Wasn't the station used for something at one time? Flood control? Nuclear attack control centre?
Something mysterious anyway....
@@jimtuite3451 It is still used as an Emergency Intervention Point for use by the emergency services. Thinking about it, there are also the disused Northern Line stations of City Road and South Kentish Town that are also used.
It's always dark in South Wimbledon because it is the Gateway to Mordor.
Interesting... I always thought it was Croydon!
Living near there, I have to agree! 😂
@@alanmoss3603 It is, but you have to go to Wimbledon to pick up the tram.
@@blameless_hyperborean8638 Ahh! I always wondered why those trams smelled of dwarfs!
Listening to Kinky Afro in a pub in High Barnet. Happy days. Mondays. Happy Mon...oh nevermind it wasn't that bad. Bad Barnet indeed. A right Baden Baden.
Well that cleared everything up ! - My head hurts now.
Amazing facts Jago! Thanks for a great video. There's a quiz on Sporcle which features old names of the tube stations. I've resisted trying it, and after watching and listening to this video, I understand why 😉 👏🏾
There's a whole load of excellent UndergrounD-related quizes on Sporcle. Many are virtually un-doable, unless you're a very competent touch-typist; some have annoying mistakes but many are just brilliant - entertaining and educational.
I've sometimes wondered if guys like Jago and Geoff Marshall are Sporcle masters.
What did St Pancras do for me? - It was the departure point to, and arrival point from, visiting my aunts in Dumfries.
The late-lamented Thames-Clyde (not very) Express, with its peculiar reversal at Leeds City.
I'd love a large coffee table book from you with your curated underground knowledge and photos of all old and former Roundels 😍 ...hint hint 🤣
I might have a Logo For London on sale at the next Theydon Bois sale in Dec (If I can find it - the book that is )
Ah! that explaines the now defunkt pub 'The Grove' at South Wimbledon., now a Tesco's Exprees.
The Grove Hotel has been rebuilt at least once. Oddly sited at the Turnpike's Double Gates ( Colliers Wood being at the Single Gate)
South Wimbledon (as a Technicality) Was On The North Side Of Merton High Street , being in Wimbledon UDC and so referred to from roughly Merton Road To Wandle Bank south of Quicks Road, The Area north of Kingston Road to Wimbledon Rail Station had been called New Wimbledon on many maps, but the name of Wimbledon station just expanded Wibbas'Dun (The hill top settlement of Wibba, down the hill ). Merton Grove was also a house owned by Sir Richard Hotham (whom founded Bognor Regis), and was north of Kingston Road, The C&SLR Acquired Land (and demolished the buildings thereon) to the West of Morden Road for a second or alternate entrance to South Wimbledon Station, but this was never used, and for many years was the Car Park for The Grove Hotel, that car park has recently been developed with expensive mini-tower block of residential properties. (a small amount had been developed adjoining the Grove Hotel (Pub) in the similar style to one of the buildings the C&SLR had demolished. Merton was the businesses along Merton High Street (both sides), including the works of William Morris - Which Might have been closed by the time of arrival of the tube, replaced by the Plaza Cinema (a rather small establishment), and the Board Mills on the site of the Copper Mills ( becoming I think New Merton Board Mills (1924) Ltd as the previous went bust, all later going into a mix of Reed Paper Packaging and Dickinson Robinson Group. Back to Merton as a sub of the tube station, The Settlement (Tun) by the Water ( Mere ). Founded roughly around farmsteads at The Rush and out as far as West Barnes, the name moved eastwards when Queen Mathilda declared the Merton Priory being established near the Parish Church of St Mary as being in an unsuitable location, and it was moved to the west side of the Wandle south of Merton Bridge where the turnpike came later crossing the Wandle. The Two Roundels with South Wimbledon (Merton) on are one on each platform located at the eastern ends of the platforms
2:09 Possibly the most apt way to refer to Bank station I've ever heard lol
Morden (on Some Maps) before opening was going to be called Morden North (being North Of Morden Village centred around St Lawrence's Church a good bus ride away (and the 93 had not gone south of Putney Bridge Stations I think at the time of opening ). My mum had/has a 1925 Merton and Morden UDC Guide with such map drawn on it. See also the Many Changes of name of Morden (Road) Tram stop, which is shown as Morden for the station name at that time ( of course being North of the Morden North Tube Station - I think it was shortly renamed Morden Road (Halt) after the coming of the tube to Morden.
The easterly circuit between Kennington and Camden Town seems to have had its name changed from City Branch to Bank Branch, or at least "via Bank" on the annoucements.
Hmm, when did that change - Jago must go to morden to see the repros of old adverts of the tube extensions south, and South Wimbledon for the old adverts
The number of cats that respond to RUclips post is astounding !!
A quick unscientific survey seems to indicate that TfL started using "Bank Branch" rather than "City Branch" at some point in 2015. However, I've not been able to find an official announcement of the name change.
It's funny, I grew up in Finchley and within 10 minutes walk of Finchley Central and both the bus and taxis always called it Church End. There was indeed a church there at end of Hendon Lane.
Thank you again for another great tube tale, Jago
I very much enjoy your videos. I especially like learning the trivia about the various places as I have been to many of them. Cheers, mate!
That will be two and six, please. ruclips.net/video/V8Fsl_axMMw/видео.html
It is perhaps worth mentioning that 'West Finchley' came about as the result of a competition to choose the name and that the area became known as that rather than the other way round. It is hard to imagine what else could have won the vote other than maybe 'Nether Street'. However, since this runs from Church End to Tally Ho it might not have been precise enough.
Another cracking video Mr H. I felt quite breathless by the end and I was only listening to it!
Will you be periodically renaming your channel to such as "Jago Hazzard (for Yerkes)" then changing it back shortly afterwards? Will there still be tiling in the dropped name?
"People are busy, you can't expect them to waste their time saying 'the' all the time"
Yorkshire moment
A wonderful sequel to your great video, Four Station Switcheroo!
What did St Pancras ever do to me; nothing except have some people call it St Pancreas. I guess it's a piece of human anatomy !!! LOL. Aarre Peltomaa
Another great video.
You are my favourite person to do with trains Jago!!!!
They probally renamed Archway (Highgate) to Highgate (Archway) in 1941 to confuse German Spies.
Great stuff!
I’ve been waiting for this one
"Finchley Central, two and sixpence, Golders Green on the Northern line"... We had an argument back then when this song came out. Who on earth would take the tube when Golders Green was just 10 minute away by bus along Regents Park Road? But there again I went to school just opposite Finchley Central.
After watching this I remembered being told that Clapham South was once called Nightingale Lane, so looked it up on Wikipedia, which says that both Nightingale Lane and Balham North were proposed as names. But from opening it was always called CS so OK not to include here.
I seem to recall a Platonic idea about form and function, that out there somewhere (as it were ) Is an ideal form of everything. For example a table in essence has multiple forms but is still a table. Same with stations I suppose, call it what you will it's still a station. Still thanks again. Off to pick up my cup of tea from the top of my fish tank/ table
Who the hell thought of the name Tooting Bec? I had a young neighbor named Rebecca and when I returned to Australia from the UK, I nicknamed her Tooting Bec.
Very interesting & always enjoyable
'for no particular reason i;ll start with the Edgware branch' love that REASON.
Can't wait for you to do the district line!!!
good evening even though its 12pm 😭😭
I think I need to watch this a few times to take it all in, but so fascinating, shame TFL doesn't put as much pride and interest into it's own history. Maybe Mr Khan doesn't want us to know about that?
Next offering in this series should come with a "get your popcorn ready" warning. :)
Very nice video you put together. Hope there more to come soon.
Thanks very much for replying to my comment. Have a Great Christmas and Happy New year. Take Care & Stay Safe.
Not sure it's casting shade (as the young people say) on St Pancras --- surely the opposite: 'We'd love to take you to St Pancras, but sadly we can only manage this GNR hole. It's the best we can do; you know where you really want to go.'
I believe, m'lud, the expression is "throwing shade". :)
@@Tevildo Counsel is of the opinion that 'casting' is a dashed sight classier, though, as you correctly observe, less likely to be used by GenZ.
I was born in East Finchley in the 1940s and spent my early years there. It was often called East End, while Finchely Central was known universally as Church End (not to be confused with Crouch End which was in Hornsey). Thank you, Jago, for the historical background to that.
The 1923 proposal map shows Morden as North Morden and Clapham South as Nightingale Lane
Great lesson.😀
Hi Jago,
I really enjoy your videos. Real fun to learn the history of railways with you.
Just a little bit of something: Clapham North station was not part of the original, 1890 route of the City & South London Railway. It was opened in 1900, not in 1890.
High Barnet (since we've mentioned it) is on the highest land between London and York. Yes, the Midlands are really that flat.
Excellent factoid. It sounds pretty unlikely but then, when you think about it ................ 😁
great video
Finchley Central is ten long stations from Golders Green. But you must change at Camden Town. Unless you are very old this will mean nothing.
That will be two and six, please. ruclips.net/video/V8Fsl_axMMw/видео.html
I think you under-estimate the geekery of Mr.H's audience; and less of the "very old" if you don't mind. Our hero must have been pretty desperate for female company too, waiting for hours for some bint he met on a station platform. She probably only agreed to stop him pestering her.😁
👍 Thanks Jago.
1:26 You should've said, "People are busy; you can't expect them to waste their time saying 'the' all time."
1:35 I always thought it was Bank branch
Finally some stations I'm familiar with
Clapham South was going to be called Nightingale Lane, but before opening this was changed to Clapham South, so not a name change. This was my local station during my childhood and teenage years, as I lived off Nightingale Lane.
And Jago was renamed Hazzard in 2017.
Not heard the word 'swizz' for a while. Well done there Jago. I'm going to start using it again.
Finchley Central had its own song [ ruclips.net/video/p6mgBZmoqoU/видео.html ] - a hit for The New Vaudeville Band in 1967.
"Finchley Central is two and sixpence
From Golders Green on the Northern Line..."
"At Finchley Central, ten long stations
From Golders Green, change at Camden Town"
Can you do a video about the Charing Cross station building? It's really big and posh-looking, and I want to know what's in it.
Why they changed it Jago can't say, people just liked it better that way
Got in before me!
old song, Finchley Central is two and sixpence from Golders Green on the Northern Line
My brain’s melting 😖
Hi jago another great video but what happened to Trafalgar Square? In my alternate reality (I did a what if map in 1995) by 2030 the Charing cross bit of the northern line is called the Trafalgar line and went from kennington to Battersea and Clapham junction. The north London overground joined with the south London bits and became the meridian line, think that sounds better than the overground but that's just me
My station is tooting bec I can see it directly from my front window... beautiful station.. used it daily for the last 20y..
Good video (as always). As you gave honourable mentions to changes from planned names what about Battersea Power Station Station. In the original plans/ consultation wasn’t it just known as Battersea? Or Battersea Station maybe.
On the topic of names, belsize park is the only tube station with the letter Z in its name
On the 8th day God created Jago, thanks for that
An eleventh hour name brought that about
I assume Kentish Town and Tufnell Park have always had the same names.
Woodstock?
It is said of Woodstock that legions claimed to have been there, many more than than actually did go there.
Not casting aspersions on Brent Cross, or indeed Isle of Wight 1970.
Excellent research - why they can’t find a name an stick to it, I’ve no idea!
Who wanted things to end with a mention of Mornington Crescent?
At Kennington. Since the extension to Battersea Power Station is now completed and officially opened. Will Kennington station get the upgrade and to allow more extra passengers and with the Kennington loop to probably close.
And the the Charing Cross branch to be renamed as the Battersea branch that would pass through Charing Cross from Camden Town. And it’s strange not having a “Southern Line”. But there is a “Northern Line” in Merseyside.
Head spinning.
3:05 Did that British Rail sign used to rotate?
About time 'Old Street' became 'Old', saving so much breath, digits and print.
Very interesting. I've not got a picture of the Euston Road sign at Warren St, I don't think. Oddly, my girlfriend and I ticked off all stations on the Edgware branch yesterday, so I now have shots of Heath St and Burnt Oak for Watling signage as well as all the labyrinths for that line.
Tomorrow my plan is to do the district line from Richmond to Upminster, ticking all the stops I haven't yet done (which will leave just the Edgware Road branch of the district for me to do), then finish off the GOBLIN (Barking to Leytonstone High Road) then swap from South Tottenham to Seven Sisters to tick off the stations after Bruce Grove towards Enfield Town and Cheshunt. Assuming I don't use up all my time on the district line, but I do have a couple more weeks down here before I have to go back north.
@1:44, I wonder if the area of Braganza Street is connected to Catherine of Braganza, Portuguese princess and Queen of England? @6:28, a bit like getting off at Bow Church expecting the find the Stratford church.
Never having heard of Catherine of Braganza, but knowing how streets were named, I find it hard to believe otherwise to be honest. Nice nugget of info there, thanks!
To say the least all the boys are confusing enough already , perhaps time for a few name changes .
I can imagine how confusing it is for anyone not from the East End of London to work out the difference between Bromley by bow , Bow Road , Bow church and Saint Mary LeBow , just chucking in Bow bells
@@steveosborne2297 or, indeed, Bow Locks.
For those in doubt, yes, it is real!
Wife of Charles the Second
Catherine is said to be the person who introduced tea drinking proper to Britain. Can you imagine a queen of Portuguese origin just arrive at Court saying “Ee I’d love a right good cuppa” and then nobody in the palace knowing what she was talking about?
I'm intrigued by the shot of Moorgate Station with a black phone box instead of red, by the entrance! Is this in any way tied up with the "WiFi here" notice on it? Help me out quickly, or I'll be having sleepness lights over it! After all, I'm old enough to remember Tooting Bec as Trinity Road!
It is - many phone boxes have been sold off and repurposed.
Confused you will be I hear that " Finchley central was Two and sixpence from Golders green on the northern line" interesting video as always thank you jago
In homage to the changeable nature of station names on the Underground , perhaps renaming your channel with periodic changes just to keep us on out toes.
Jago Hazzard (Wimbledon)
@@JackGladstoneHolroyde But only after dark, apparently.
Yea - Jago Dangerous !!
I want to get a "Heath Street" sign!
By the way the sign just around the corner from Totteridge & Whetstone tube stations single entrance & exit is mistakenly (unless its been rectified but I think not) named Totteridge and Whestone car park as the "t" has been left out by mistake.
Otteridge ?
@@highpath4776 Er I said Whestone which should be Whetstone.
@@licensedtaximan4271 Whetstone does sound very odd. Or is it pronounced as “Wetstone” or “Wheatstone” 🤔
@@AndrewG1989 It's actually pronounced Wetstone even though it's spelt with an "h" as Whetstone. The "h" effectively is silent, but either way the spelling at the car park entrance area has been spelt incorrectly as Whestone.