I've used this strategy almost exactly like you in the video. Works well, not huge pay days but almost always walk away up. I like finding a cold table or one with no one playing and play solo.
This strategy worked like a charm for me this last weekend! I surveyed the shooters prior to stepping into the game and did this for those shooters that threw like crap. I started putting odds up if the point was a 4 or 10 and really made some money. Hit up 3 casinos in STL and left up $3k for the weekend. Thanks for the great video! I never touched the DP and DC prior to this last weekend but realized I’m there to make money not friends.
You had to run into quite a few cold streaks. Did you manage to get more than 3 don'ts on the board more than say 605 of the time? I always stop at 3 plus I bet entirely then betting strickley flat bets. I always lay some sort of odds with my flats. Are you still succeeding 2 years later? THX and GREAT LUCK.
I've tested just about every strategy living here in LV for 37 years The one strategy that works the best is martingaling the dont. Take $600 bankroll $10 on the don't pass maybe hedge a dollar on the 7 and parlay it if u throw it.Look for depressed.old men rolling from awkward part of table . They come out on a 9 and 7 out do it again if the make there point go to 30 dp if they make that goto70 then 150 then 310 .Rarely do people make 5 or more passes and if they do u have the 7 as a slight hedge. I remember standing at table for 34 dp decisions.No one made more than 2 passes in a row.u can pick up between 10 and 50 real quick.
When your Don't & Dc bet is 4,6,8,& 10 put a few $$ on the hard way number. Give you a little protection and does not cost a lot. Now you have 6 ways for the 7 and one way for the hard way. ( From the Platinum craps book)
I play a 3 point don't pass strategy when a table goes cold which is a lot like this but doesn't cost as much on a $15 table. Instead of 3X the bet on the DC I place odds on it after the come out. Great video and great strategy.
Good Strategy, I play last night at Our local Casino but in the Machine, I made $200 for $5 bet . I watch your Video before I went to Casino to play . What’s is good your video no odds involve 100% winning strategies!! Thank you so much for sharing this video.
Nice video. Easy to follow along and learn. When starting bank roll is $400 and your profit is $675 you have made one and a half times your money plus cocktail and tip money. Great job, I will practice and then try it in a local Indian casino.
That strategy works short term, in the long term you will run into a hot shooter and they'll break you. I saw somebody laying the 4&10 a$100 each, then doing $15 don't come &$30 odds, when one gets knocked off goes $60, keeps progressing $30, increments when you knock them off. He ran into a hot shooter, lost about $3000, when shooter 7 Ed out.
I like to play the "Dont's". I do not put odds on the numbers and I usually only play a total of 2-3. Most of my bets a little larger. If the shooter rolls a lot of 7 or hits the point, then either I go with the shooter or sit out.
I would add to this "taking odds" on the dont come numbers. You have to do that,take advantage of the odds. Also on the first come out before a number is established,bet big red(any seven at 7-1)in case a 7 comes on come out and also bet $10 bucks on the field so you have the 11 covered. You dont have to bet both,but you need to at least one. If not,7 and 11 will kill you before the point. Last point,which I always do,is to lay the 10 before the point is established,that way if a 7 comes before the point,you golden,you win. Laying dosent pay as good as the dont come,but its still married and align to what you're trying to do,which is roll 7s and you need to fill up the back wall on no lays or dont come
Great strategy, I usually bet on the dont. Then if a 6 or 8 comes out I go big backing up my bet against the 6 or 8 because it pays the highest, then I’ll throw like a $15 or $25 10 out there.
Ace Deuce is my favorite horn number because it did not get a one word nickname from the designers of Craps....not like Hi, Lo or Yo. This means the designers or house are discouraging us from betting it. This is just my observation and theory, but I think it makes sense, especially when many different Pit Bosses have agreed with me. When betting a C check, I always combine it with an Ace Deuce.
I have a question please. Why place 3 bets on the don’t Pass. Why not 2 bets. That I understand. Once you place one bet on the don’t come you still win one unit. Plus the house has a 1.36 edge built into the game. So why are you risking 3 units on that don’t pass line. Thank You
Betting that yo too much will grind the ball bag outta ya, best thing is to just hop bet 2 of the 7's you think might show on occasion cause you're getting 15 to 1 for a buck, of course it depends how much your initial don't bet is. Betting too often on those will grind your bankroll as well. Forget the 'any 7' unless you're betting small money say over $8 in total. Remember , you can bet both ways with more on the don't side you know, just 'keep track' of your wagers on the table as it goes. Avoid alcohol at all costs when betting both ways.@@AnyElectric
I have a question if you could let me know the answer please. Why not bet 300 across the board on the lay numbers 4,5,6,8,9,10? If you roll a point number you are only losing the 300 on that point correct and the don't pass bet correct? I don't understand the point on placing a lay only on what the dice hits? Why not just lay them all upfront because you would get 1800 on a 7 hitting. The difference from the point line betting 300 across all numbers is you get wiped out on a 7 for the entire 1800. The DC allows just a hit 2 ways not all so have you tried this betting big across the board? After all the 7 is most likely to hit more and it might be a easier way to hit n run after a 1800 win on a 7
@4:00 ish, you pick up the don't come, and pay the 8, then pay out of your chipstack the 9, then ask why you're paying from your stack and put both payments into your chips, then pay them from the bank. That's $25 too much
I just want to point out that every table is made different...its important how the dye bounces.i give an edge to the players on a harder surface as to a softer cushion. This is a solid strategy on a cold table...be sure to switch sides as to a hot shooter. If a shooter hots more then two numbers, consider switching until the next shooter
The dice roll how the house allows them to roll....in Wynn last night dead empty Friday 8pm 4th of July weekend...because so dead/empty and because otterly 7 out cold I got around several times to all the various 6 tables in action (each having 1-2 players at most)...all the tables were strangely point 6...all the tables except the one with a player playing $300 each place bet ($1,500 in action plus pass and odds) were very quick 7 out. Time after time after time. I lost $800 in 30 minutes playing very conservative trying to get 2 hits and down on $50 tables....thats not coincidence....dice do not roll "true" in the casino like they do at home. I got back my $800 next door in Palazo immediately after. Couple nights ago in Aria the 2/1 (3) was coming so frequently it was equally rolling as much as the 6 or 8 individually. Not a single 2 rolled in 2 and half hours of playing , not a single (I play the all tall small boom or bust bonus every roll they mark #s rolled. Again not a coincidence! These games are highly controlled and if you start with that gaming commission bs they run the gaming commission. That's real talk FACTS
I would of went crazy seeing that many 3's, plus I would have parlayed a few of those don't bets(winners). Oh yea I would have made a killing.@@harolddodds5849
im gonna try this and the field / getting me all up top faster in case the 7 comes quick he hit so many horn numbers that are in the field also it seems like a good way to hedge or better
As a don’t player the only way imma not walk out positive is if that 7 rolls on the come out because all the point might get rolled the 7 is gonna roll more times than the point so like I said just praying for that 7 (or 11 if you don’t get insurance) not to come on the come out
I put a great comment replying to Apple C'd 8th one down from top you should read. And I'll add...I've played dice in Vegas 20 years+ at 44 and literally started at 21, grew up in Phoenix so this is my backyard 4.5 hour drive and 50 minute flights that used to be dirt cheap...I used to play relentlessly long sessions like you see poker players sit down to. I have been in Vegas this year more than any other location. I can not tell you how many times while rolling that when I turn the dice over in front of me before throwing they turn over 7...nobody throws those , and so turn over randomly again and 4/3 is now 6/1 and yet turn over or rotate again before finally throwing and sure enough 7 out....or throw and bounce one into the rail and you see it was 6 on table and 3 in the wood...it gets set back in play. Stick man pushes them back out and you throw again since that previous didn't count in the wood/rail and wow sure enough the dice roll 6 freaking 3 or whatever that combination you just got a glance at. I have a very good eye and that oddity gleams standing out to me. Average players never even pick up on that. These things are not recorded for the public, not spoken in any type of public forum ....(what here with 114 old comments not hardly) and thus frankly goes completely unobserved. It's straight up like they have a magnet 🧲 🤣. Gee you think. I've watched and made many MANY large bets over $1,000 be straight up targeted and whipped out. Both sides pass and don't or DC (don't come). I love the DC. But of I have a $90 DC with a $5 yo (11) for insurance....I should also LAY $150 on the 5 or 9 (which pays $100 3/2) to fully protect my $90 DC bet ....if it's 4 or 10 great but don't lay odds on 4 or 10 as the pay off is 1/2 and crap ..I usually won't Lay odds regardless if 5 or 9 and if it's a DC to 6 or 8 then I'll leave it up as I used to pull it down "no action" and now will just place the same # same amount $90 so if that 6 or 8 rolls you get back $105 losing the DC But making $15 in the wash...remember to have that number working on the come out since your DC is working.....so really I'm looking for 4,5,9,10 to play my DC from. I feel dice absolutely rigged and controlled after 20 years doing this when doing much more than 40 hours a week I've done this more than most have worked their job. I try to catch the waves and avoid the pits. To me dice have a DNA or pattern and you can see ok these two are pounding 4/10 and sure alot of 11 or dice are pounding 5,6,8 and your horn bets and outside 4,9,10 sitting without a sniff and so forth. Don't play like a robot...you have to adjust and have the ability to change what you're doing but most you want to be on a table that is rolling. The other night in Aria it went around the entire full table (10 players) without making a single point. Wow! WWE, UFC, here last night and it's Vegas weekend it's absolutely packed like pre covid huge event weekends and frankly...Wynn, Aria, Caesars has been dead cold Friday and Saturday. I'm up simply from a huge push yesterday I got lucky $2,650 one hand blackjack that hit picture Ace paid me $3,925 as was 2k down Saturday after managing to stay $450 up from Thursday and Friday. I love dice but it's a game you are better to get in and out of....you can read the tables rail walking up and see everyone has chips and it's rolling good obviously or everyone is thin and leaking and it's obviously 7 out alot. If you're going to bet $100 or more # you better be on the right table with considerable bigger action that the casino is entertaining and allowing the dice to roll that you can just ride that wave otherwise you become the target and they will just bleed you out. And quick. $50 a number is a good unit you can pick up $70 or with 4/10 $98 each hit and get ahead and get out with some of their money. $25 becomes a real grind in the ups and downs. If it's cold again today which I expect it to be....it just so many tourists one gets whipped out then the next walks up it's 🥶 🧊 and oddly not seeing the normal big fish I see like last week....I most certainly need to get on the DC steady diet. Good luck....well as they say Luck is the residue of design!
Then you would really hate me. I do back flip, 360 spin, flip off all who think they can control the dice and then throw back handed. All with my eyes closed. Just roll the damn dice already
Mr. AZ Craps GURU: Soooo...how did the strategy work in the long run? I tried this strategy once and, well...when you want a cold table, it turns hot..when you want a hot table, it turns cold...
Enjoyed it. Personally I like a $25 don’t and remove it when point is 6 or 8, and don’t travel the 6 or 8 on DC. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. 😂 Usually the 4 and 10 hit 3 or 4 times when I lay 6x on them. Stinkers don’t hit without odds. Thanks for posting!
Never, EVER remove your don't 6 or 8, EVER! Think about it this way: you survived (GOT PAST)that 7 or 11 that would take your money initially...now your gonna retry a don't again and put yourself in that same risk. Doing the removing over time(most likely the same night) you'll end up losing cause of doing that. You still are more likely to win more of those don't 6's or 8's, you're giving up the edge you had. For every 31 times a 6 or 8 is the point (in true random fashion of course) it will be repeated 13 times, MISSED 13 times and MISSED 5 times 100%. If you're really freaked out about those 6's and 8's just place it for $24 but always have it 'working'. Additionally if you would lay odds, you can hedge it even better than that. It's up to you to figure it out if you're so inclined. But overtime, hedging will cost you money cause of what I said in the beginning for the same reason. Good Luck. Generally hedging is a loser.
I would have loved to been there playing the field he's playing the don't come if I he put the same 75 on the field his don't or push would have been 150 price on the 12 twice on the two 275 would have won on the yo the 10 before multiple times
I saw that you mis-paid when you realized you were paying your bets with your own chips. You paid the 8 with the chip from the DC that the house had just won (which is a correct payout), but then you realized you started to pay yourself with your own chips (on the 9), but you took both chips back and paid from the house so that first payout was corrected improperly and you double paid yourself. The end result changes by just two greens, but still it's an easy system to play and that was a good run. I think Don't players get scoffed at, but end up walking with winnings more times than the Pass players. Just gotta find the tables where the crickets are chirping. 🤣
Avoid bubble craps like the plague, especially the single player version. It's rigged as F, Played it first time in my life a few weeks back, what I saw happen inside of 15 mins WAS NOT a coincidence. Trust me it's rigged.
So you start with 16 green chips and end with 43 green chips for a profit of 27 green chips. I would have just stuck with 3 Don't Come Bets up at a time for this video. I'd rather try 2 chips on the DP with 2 DC bets up at a time because there's so much downside available.
Any strategy will wipe you out on a bad streak. It's gambling. The only way to not get wiped out is to hedge against everything, in which case you aren't winning anything either and the hedges are bleeding you dry.
why 3 to 1? Why not just 1 don't pass then 1 on DC. They both have the same probability/house edge. Which by the way is the best/lowest house edge option on the table.
Agree. I play it 1 and 1 until I have all numbers covered or the shooter hits a number three times (2 losses on a single number ), whichever comes first then I stand back and wait for the 7
With $75 in the don't your better off making three $25 come bets..if a 7 rolls you win all around .Keep in my shooters tend to have specific points they hit a lot doesn't mean they will hit there point but a 4 or 10 is something they could hit a lot..I would go $75 DC then $25 in come each roll after that up to three times if I come a four then come another then come another four that's it no more come..Now your covering your Don't pass in the event the shooter hits his point
Shifting the risk back in forth, would drive me crazy trying to keep track of all that. Not to mention remembering/ seeing where your chips are on the table. Keeping it simple, slow and steady, wins the race in wrong betting. SINCE, one hot shooter will wipe out your winnings toot sweet...in short order if you're not careful. Simple is better in my book.
so when your point button gets hit you only are losing the don't 75 money the 25 dc and the money you had on the point button BUT you don't lose the other money on all the lay numbers is that correct? That's great compared to a Pass Line bet because if you have money on every number across the board on a buy or place and a 7 hit's you lose it all. Is this correct between the two because i like this strategy better. I would do 300 across the board on all lays
I bought in $160 at neighborhood Indian casino.. ( $5 table )... played 3&1/2 hours.... left with $100. I had more fun than the big shot next to me that lost 8k.
I really hate to be a ball buster but who in their right mind would go thru the hassle of building a very nice table ( although I think it's far from the type of bounce you'd get in most casinos) AND not have the proper FELT down with the DONT COME square? Who is the moron that sold this to you anyways? Having the GIANT COME area speaks volumes of how a casino with this set up would WANT one to bet, lol. I've seen plenty of websites with the proper thing. You need to rip that felt outta there, and put the 'correct' felt down any rainbow color you can think of. Plus if you are so inclined, put down 1/16th to 1/8" (I'd go with the 1/16") layer of foam under the entire surface and use glue sparingly to have it stay in place. then felt over that. Don't be offended, just my 2 cents. I was unable to get thru the entire strategy it's not as bad as others I have seen of what I viewed.
It was my beginner throwing station, I have a real table now, this video was from years ago. Thanks for watching, hope you enjoy my Vegas real craps game videos.
Ok sir, sorry then. I really think most Indian casino's are using flawed dice or what is known a Ace-Six flats. With a lot of time at casinos,(i.e. I used to take folks to an anonymous casino by Bus 5-6 days a week) I happen to be seeing an inordinate amount of 4-1, and 4-6 combinations(5/10) You notice this at all in your trips? 6-1 most common, 5-2 next, and 4-3 seems elusive.( when 7's are showing). Even in well know joints, not just Indian ones. Again I apologize, my strategies are similar to yours but not exact. I would expect you need a rather large bankroll to do that, $400 wouldn't be nearly enough for my skin, too small. I wouldn't ever try that with that little amount. As a dyed in the wool wrong bettor, if I don't see the 4-3 occurring around the same amount as the other 2 types, I will not win for the day or duration of the period say 2-4 hrs. Time to be looking for the exit, conversely if I am seeing TOO MANY 4-3 combo's, I need to be finding the exits, meaning that a shit ton of numbers(in bunches} 'seem to be' far more likely to happen. Something to think about. @@BigAZCrapsGURU
I usually don't like the Don't.. Watching this in consideration of you trying to do dice influence. Even throwing random, you have streaks.. I've been trying a blended strategy. Starting with the Don't. Betting the inside, and playing what the table gives me. Only play the Don't for one loss per shooter. Once a point is made, I play the pass. Although, not many shooters get more the 2 points..
have never been able to make strategies like this work. either the DP bet gets wiped out on the CO roll, or the DC bets are killed by the 11 and repeating box numbers.
This strategy will get destroyed by a good "come bet/point shooter", who hits multiple numbers and points, multiple times before 7 out. Maybe set a $75 loss max per shooter rule.
Jeffrey Kidwell then you just also like to see the Casino make money. Because pass is in the casino’s favor. Especially since they don’t let you remove the bet. I’d bet don’t pass even if I was the shooter.
to mechanical you're making the same bet as a mechanic. You're sure to lose on a choppy table which is about 80% of the time. You are better off playing the D/P with place betting.
A don't come bet. It is like a don't pass bet mid roll. Whichever number you roll that's where your dc travels to. Then you need a 7 rolled before that specific number.
I just progressively bet the dont come as I win with a regression in bet size after 4 hits to lock in profits for that hand. Works best on an empty table where you continue as shooter. Its a short game where I play 5 hands and use an outside or horn dice set for the comeout roll and an all sevens set after the point. Low volatility and high profits over a period of 6 months playing almost every day. You will not make any huge scores on a given session, but will make money in the long run with the proper dice sets. The reason for the 5 hands is an exit strategy if you are shooting poorly due to many factors,and if shooting well to lock profits and not let fatigue set in as there are many distractions in a casino. You should never spend more than an hour on a session. The strategy in this video looks like it could be winning by implementing the right dice sets. Need to find empty tables and definitely dont use it on random rollers or dice controllers who play on the right side.
Rarely do I ever win 4 times in a row on don't pass or win 4 don't come bets. but I have won 4- 6(?) times with 3 don'ts up, possibly 6 times since 1984! LOL.
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I've used this strategy almost exactly like you in the video. Works well, not huge pay days but almost always walk away up. I like finding a cold table or one with no one playing and play solo.
This strategy worked like a charm for me this last weekend! I surveyed the shooters prior to stepping into the game and did this for those shooters that threw like crap. I started putting odds up if the point was a 4 or 10 and really made some money. Hit up 3 casinos in STL and left up $3k for the weekend. Thanks for the great video! I never touched the DP and DC prior to this last weekend but realized I’m there to make money not friends.
Awesome stuff
Same here 💪🔥🔥🔥
I agree not there for friends there to win
Seems to help when I think they’re throwing bad despite what the scientists say 😂
You had to run into quite a few cold streaks. Did you manage to get more than 3 don'ts on the board more than say 605 of the time? I always stop at 3 plus I bet entirely then betting strickley flat bets. I always lay some sort of odds with my flats. Are you still succeeding 2 years later? THX and GREAT LUCK.
I play don’t pass exclusively. Good job.
I've tested just about every strategy living here in LV for 37 years The one strategy that works the best is martingaling the dont. Take $600 bankroll $10 on the don't pass maybe hedge a dollar on the 7 and parlay it if u throw it.Look for depressed.old men rolling from awkward part of table . They come out on a 9 and 7 out do it again if the make there point go to 30 dp if they make that goto70 then 150 then 310 .Rarely do people make 5 or more passes and if they do u have the 7 as a slight hedge. I remember standing at table for 34 dp decisions.No one made more than 2 passes in a row.u can pick up between 10 and 50 real quick.
Don't martingale over 5 times
i like your attitude...and how you dont curse or say omg..❤..after every roll
When your Don't & Dc bet is 4,6,8,& 10 put a few $$ on the hard way number. Give you a little protection and does not cost a lot. Now you have 6 ways for the 7 and one way for the hard way. ( From the Platinum craps book)
Got smoked in Vegas this weekend with this strat, but I still love it
I play a 3 point don't pass strategy when a table goes cold which is a lot like this but doesn't cost as much on a $15 table. Instead of 3X the bet on the DC I place odds on it after the come out. Great video and great strategy.
Good luck finding $15 tables in Vegas except shit hole casinos, daytime and downtown
Good Strategy, I play last night at Our local Casino but in the Machine, I made $200 for $5 bet . I watch your Video before I went to Casino to play . What’s is good your video no odds involve 100% winning strategies!! Thank you so much for sharing this video.
Nice video. Easy to follow along and learn. When starting bank roll is $400 and your profit is $675 you have made one and a half times your money plus cocktail and tip money. Great job, I will practice and then try it in a local Indian casino.
Best strategy is playing the dont straight up...put your money where the house has advantage. Look for that table that is cold
You are exactly right my friend
Do have any kind of updated version of this grinder. Maybe with aggressive odds on outside numbers. thx
That strategy works short term, in the long term you will run into a hot shooter and they'll break you. I saw somebody laying the 4&10 a$100 each, then doing $15 don't come &$30 odds, when one gets knocked off goes $60, keeps progressing $30, increments when you knock them off. He ran into a hot shooter, lost about $3000, when shooter 7 Ed out.
It's short term, avoiding the big roll.
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“Cold table”is a key word. If there is a lot of people around don’t go to that table!
I like to play the "Dont's". I do not put odds on the numbers and I usually only play a total of 2-3. Most of my bets a little larger. If the shooter rolls a lot of 7 or hits the point, then either I go with the shooter or sit out.
Dayummm. You were killing it. Just gave me a new strategy. In Vegas, more losers than winners. Using that next time I’m out.
Good luck my friend.
If I’m on the don’t pass and the point is 10 I’ll go light backing up my bet, and put money on 4,6,8
I would add to this "taking odds" on the dont come numbers. You have to do that,take advantage of the odds. Also on the first come out before a number is established,bet big red(any seven at 7-1)in case a 7 comes on come out and also bet $10 bucks on the field so you have the 11 covered. You dont have to bet both,but you need to at least one. If not,7 and 11 will kill you before the point. Last point,which I always do,is to lay the 10 before the point is established,that way if a 7 comes before the point,you golden,you win. Laying dosent pay as good as the dont come,but its still married and align to what you're trying to do,which is roll 7s and you need to fill up the back wall on no lays or dont come
Nice stragey. My opinion, 1) I'll would put odds on DC rolls that bacame points. 2) No Don't Pass bet if you have points with odds on Dark Side.
Great strategy, I usually bet on the dont. Then if a 6 or 8 comes out I go big backing up my bet against the 6 or 8 because it pays the highest, then I’ll throw like a $15 or $25 10 out there.
$15 or $25 lmfao clown
Ace Deuce is my favorite horn number because it did not get a one word nickname from the designers of Craps....not like Hi, Lo or Yo. This means the designers or house are discouraging us from betting it. This is just my observation and theory, but I think it makes sense, especially when many different Pit Bosses have agreed with me. When betting a C check, I always combine it with an Ace Deuce.
Even though Yo Elleven pays the same as Ace Duce?
I like it, simple strategy on the dark side and they are both good bets to win. Thanks!
I have a question please. Why place 3 bets on the don’t Pass. Why not 2 bets. That I understand. Once you place one bet on the don’t come you still win one unit. Plus the house has a 1.36 edge built into the game. So why are you risking 3 units on that don’t pass line. Thank You
don't passline pays even money that the 7 is rolled before the point. It's a great bet if you can get past the comeout roll.
I’ve always played the DP. It’s the best. All you have to do is fade the 7 on the come out and you can’t lose.
And also the yo (11) on come out
And if it's a hot shooter, and they roll a lot of #'s you can lose on the don't come
Betting that yo too much will grind the ball bag outta ya, best thing is to just hop bet 2 of the 7's you think might show on occasion cause you're getting 15 to 1 for a buck, of course it depends how much your initial don't bet is. Betting too often on those will grind your bankroll as well. Forget the 'any 7' unless you're betting small money say over $8 in total. Remember , you can bet both ways with more on the don't side you know, just 'keep track' of your wagers on the table as it goes. Avoid alcohol at all costs when betting both ways.@@AnyElectric
Cool video. Thanks for doing a live roll and testing the strategy the right way. New subscriber. Keep up the good work. Love the DP/DC plays. Thanks
Dice don't roll "true" in the casino like they do at home
I have a question if you could let me know the answer please. Why not bet 300 across the board on the lay numbers 4,5,6,8,9,10? If you roll a point number you are only losing the 300 on that point correct and the don't pass bet correct? I don't understand the point on placing a lay only on what the dice hits? Why not just lay them all upfront because you would get 1800 on a 7 hitting. The difference from the point line betting 300 across all numbers is you get wiped out on a 7 for the entire 1800. The DC allows just a hit 2 ways not all so have you tried this betting big across the board? After all the 7 is most likely to hit more and it might be a easier way to hit n run after a 1800 win on a 7
amazing. I was thinking are those dice right!!!???? Nice strategy, did you follow through with more test sessions?
@4:00 ish, you pick up the don't come, and pay the 8, then pay out of your chipstack the 9, then ask why you're paying from your stack and put both payments into your chips, then pay them from the bank. That's $25 too much
I just want to point out that every table is made different...its important how the dye bounces.i give an edge to the players on a harder surface as to a softer cushion. This is a solid strategy on a cold table...be sure to switch sides as to a hot shooter. If a shooter hots more then two numbers, consider switching until the next shooter
The dice roll how the house allows them to roll....in Wynn last night dead empty Friday 8pm 4th of July weekend...because so dead/empty and because otterly 7 out cold I got around several times to all the various 6 tables in action (each having 1-2 players at most)...all the tables were strangely point 6...all the tables except the one with a player playing $300 each place bet ($1,500 in action plus pass and odds) were very quick 7 out. Time after time after time. I lost $800 in 30 minutes playing very conservative trying to get 2 hits and down on $50 tables....thats not coincidence....dice do not roll "true" in the casino like they do at home. I got back my $800 next door in Palazo immediately after.
Couple nights ago in Aria the 2/1 (3) was coming so frequently it was equally rolling as much as the 6 or 8 individually. Not a single 2 rolled in 2 and half hours of playing , not a single (I play the all tall small boom or bust bonus every roll they mark #s rolled.
Again not a coincidence!
These games are highly controlled and if you start with that gaming commission bs they run the gaming commission.
That's real talk FACTS
I would of went crazy seeing that many 3's, plus I would have parlayed a few of those don't bets(winners). Oh yea I would have made a killing.@@harolddodds5849
im gonna try this and the field / getting me all up top faster in case the 7 comes quick he hit so many horn numbers that are in the field also it seems like a good way to hedge or better
As a don’t player the only way imma not walk out positive is if that 7 rolls on the come out because all the point might get rolled the 7 is gonna roll more times than the point so like I said just praying for that 7 (or 11 if you don’t get insurance) not to come on the come out
I put a great comment replying to Apple C'd 8th one down from top you should read. And I'll add...I've played dice in Vegas 20 years+ at 44 and literally started at 21, grew up in Phoenix so this is my backyard 4.5 hour drive and 50 minute flights that used to be dirt cheap...I used to play relentlessly long sessions like you see poker players sit down to. I have been in Vegas this year more than any other location.
I can not tell you how many times while rolling that when I turn the dice over in front of me before throwing they turn over 7...nobody throws those , and so turn over randomly again and 4/3 is now 6/1 and yet turn over or rotate again before finally throwing and sure enough 7 out....or throw and bounce one into the rail and you see it was 6 on table and 3 in the wood...it gets set back in play. Stick man pushes them back out and you throw again since that previous didn't count in the wood/rail and wow sure enough the dice roll 6 freaking 3 or whatever that combination you just got a glance at.
I have a very good eye and that oddity gleams standing out to me.
Average players never even pick up on that.
These things are not recorded for the public, not spoken in any type of public forum ....(what here with 114 old comments not hardly) and thus frankly goes completely unobserved.
It's straight up like they have a magnet 🧲 🤣. Gee you think.
I've watched and made many MANY large bets over $1,000 be straight up targeted and whipped out.
Both sides pass and don't or DC (don't come). I love the DC. But of I have a $90 DC with a $5 yo (11) for insurance....I should also LAY $150 on the 5 or 9 (which pays $100 3/2) to fully protect my $90 DC bet ....if it's 4 or 10 great but don't lay odds on 4 or 10 as the pay off is 1/2 and crap ..I usually won't Lay odds regardless if 5 or 9 and if it's a DC to 6 or 8 then I'll leave it up as I used to pull it down "no action" and now will just place the same # same amount $90 so if that 6 or 8 rolls you get back $105 losing the DC But making $15 in the wash...remember to have that number working on the come out since your DC is working.....so really I'm looking for 4,5,9,10 to play my DC from.
I feel dice absolutely rigged and controlled after 20 years doing this when doing much more than 40 hours a week I've done this more than most have worked their job.
I try to catch the waves and avoid the pits. To me dice have a DNA or pattern and you can see ok these two are pounding 4/10 and sure alot of 11 or dice are pounding 5,6,8 and your horn bets and outside 4,9,10 sitting without a sniff and so forth.
Don't play like a robot...you have to adjust and have the ability to change what you're doing but most you want to be on a table that is rolling. The other night in Aria it went around the entire full table (10 players) without making a single point. Wow!
WWE, UFC, here last night and it's Vegas weekend it's absolutely packed like pre covid huge event weekends and frankly...Wynn, Aria, Caesars has been dead cold Friday and Saturday. I'm up simply from a huge push yesterday I got lucky $2,650 one hand blackjack that hit picture Ace paid me $3,925 as was 2k down Saturday after managing to stay $450 up from Thursday and Friday. I love dice but it's a game you are better to get in and out of....you can read the tables rail walking up and see everyone has chips and it's rolling good obviously or everyone is thin and leaking and it's obviously 7 out alot.
If you're going to bet $100 or more # you better be on the right table with considerable bigger action that the casino is entertaining and allowing the dice to roll that you can just ride that wave otherwise you become the target and they will just bleed you out. And quick.
$50 a number is a good unit you can pick up $70 or with 4/10 $98 each hit and get ahead and get out with some of their money.
$25 becomes a real grind in the ups and downs.
If it's cold again today which I expect it to be....it just so many tourists one gets whipped out then the next walks up it's 🥶 🧊 and oddly not seeing the normal big fish I see like last week....I most certainly need to get on the DC steady diet.
Good luck....well as they say Luck is the residue of design!
Remind me to never bet while you're shooting (random) if I see you at the Plaza. 😭😭😭 If you ain't "trying", I ain't betting! 😅😅🤣
Then you would really hate me.
I do back flip, 360 spin, flip off all who think they can control the dice and then throw back handed. All with my eyes closed.
Just roll the damn dice already
Mr. AZ Craps GURU: Soooo...how did the strategy work in the long run?
I tried this strategy once and, well...when you want a cold table, it turns hot..when you want a hot table, it turns cold...
It turns out 50-50 overtime. You can do several versions off this strategy.
What dice set gave all those horns? This must be edited.
No editing. Random.
Enjoyed it. Personally I like a $25 don’t and remove it when point is 6 or 8, and don’t travel the 6 or 8 on DC. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. 😂
Usually the 4 and 10 hit 3 or 4 times when I lay 6x on them. Stinkers don’t hit without odds. Thanks for posting!
Instead of removing the bet, place the bet for the same money. with a seven you break even. Hit the number and you make a few dollars!
Never, EVER remove your don't 6 or 8, EVER! Think about it this way: you survived (GOT PAST)that 7 or 11 that would take your money initially...now your gonna retry a don't again and put yourself in that same risk. Doing the removing over time(most likely the same night) you'll end up losing cause of doing that. You still are more likely to win more of those don't 6's or 8's, you're giving up the edge you had. For every 31 times a 6 or 8 is the point (in true random fashion of course) it will be repeated 13 times, MISSED 13 times and MISSED 5 times 100%. If you're really freaked out about those 6's and 8's just place it for $24 but always have it 'working'. Additionally if you would lay odds, you can hedge it even better than that. It's up to you to figure it out if you're so inclined. But overtime, hedging will cost you money cause of what I said in the beginning for the same reason. Good Luck. Generally hedging is a loser.
if you were betting the horn you woulda killed it also/ but id like to ask can you lay odds or press your come out numbers ,
I would have loved to been there playing the field he's playing the don't come if I he put the same 75 on the field his don't or push would have been 150 price on the 12 twice on the two 275 would have won on the yo the 10 before multiple times
Happy New Year!
Great camera angle !!!! 🐍🐍
Quit when you get ahead.
You would have made a killing on the field bet.
I saw that you mis-paid when you realized you were paying your bets with your own chips. You paid the 8 with the chip from the DC that the house had just won (which is a correct payout), but then you realized you started to pay yourself with your own chips (on the 9), but you took both chips back and paid from the house so that first payout was corrected improperly and you double paid yourself. The end result changes by just two greens, but still it's an easy system to play and that was a good run. I think Don't players get scoffed at, but end up walking with winnings more times than the Pass players. Just gotta find the tables where the crickets are chirping. 🤣
Might try this on the bubble craps. Average roll is usually around 5.
Avoid bubble craps like the plague, especially the single player version. It's rigged as F, Played it first time in my life a few weeks back, what I saw happen inside of 15 mins WAS NOT a coincidence. Trust me it's rigged.
So you start with 16 green chips and end with 43 green chips for a profit of 27 green chips. I would have just stuck with 3 Don't Come Bets up at a time for this video. I'd rather try 2 chips on the DP with 2 DC bets up at a time because there's so much downside available.
Can you add to don't pass bar after point has been established?
I'm new at this.
No. You can only add to the Passline.
The best strategy would be a strategy that figures out how to bet the "trends" !!!!
Blind strategieslike this will wipe you out on bad streaks.
Any strategy will wipe you out on a bad streak. It's gambling. The only way to not get wiped out is to hedge against everything, in which case you aren't winning anything either and the hedges are bleeding you dry.
@@Josh-ex2qc I did a hedge strategy and did real good, I was making money on everything. The key is not to use a blind strategy.
Good system. Just need a cold table.
why 3 to 1? Why not just 1 don't pass then 1 on DC. They both have the same probability/house edge. Which by the way is the best/lowest house edge option on the table.
Agree. I play it 1 and 1 until I have all numbers covered or the shooter hits a number three times (2 losses on a single number ), whichever comes first then I stand back and wait for the 7
Taken it to the bank!
I don't like playing with the blueberries lol
With $75 in the don't your better off making three $25 come bets..if a 7 rolls you win all around .Keep in my shooters tend to have specific points they hit a lot doesn't mean they will hit there point but a 4 or 10 is something they could hit a lot..I would go $75 DC then $25 in come each roll after that up to three times if I come a four then come another then come another four that's it no more come..Now your covering your Don't pass in the event the shooter hits his point
Shifting the risk back in forth, would drive me crazy trying to keep track of all that. Not to mention remembering/ seeing where your chips are on the table. Keeping it simple, slow and steady, wins the race in wrong betting. SINCE, one hot shooter will wipe out your winnings toot sweet...in short order if you're not careful. Simple is better in my book.
Sweet. You were lucky this session. I would limit my bets to 6 units on the table at any one time.
1 chip on the DC for every 3 on don't pass ? what is the DC ?
Don't come bet. It's a don't pass bet that travels to whichever next number you roll.
I counted 18 units won rolling craps..that's most of your profit. Rolling that many nit going to happen very often.
would be roll in the money with c&e bets
A wise man once said........."You have to learn how to throw correctly!"
so when your point button gets hit you only are losing the don't 75 money the 25 dc and the money you had on the point button BUT you don't lose the other money on all the lay numbers is that correct? That's great compared to a Pass Line bet because if you have money on every number across the board on a buy or place and a 7 hit's you lose it all. Is this correct between the two because i like this strategy better. I would do 300 across the board on all lays
Nice advice!
I will be trying it tonight !!
I bought in $160 at neighborhood Indian casino.. ( $5 table )... played 3&1/2 hours.... left with $100. I had more fun than the big shot next to me that lost 8k.
Question: Once the CO roll is established how are you allowed to put another bet on the Don't Pass Bar?
You can't. You can do a DC bet. It travels to whichever number you roll.
he won alot from his own casino
When you have 3 bets up on the DC and a 3 on the DP why are you still putting more bets on the DC(you already have 3 on DC and 3 on the DP). Thanks
Nevermind, I see that you are betting 1 on the DC on every roll.
you dint explained how it works.. like what happns when you bet on this and tht..
I really hate to be a ball buster but who in their right mind would go thru the hassle of building a very nice table ( although I think it's far from the type of bounce you'd get in most casinos) AND not have the proper FELT down with the DONT COME square? Who is the moron that sold this to you anyways? Having the GIANT COME area speaks volumes of how a casino with this set up would WANT one to bet, lol. I've seen plenty of websites with the proper thing. You need to rip that felt outta there, and put the 'correct' felt down any rainbow color you can think of. Plus if you are so inclined, put down 1/16th to 1/8" (I'd go with the 1/16") layer of foam under the entire surface and use glue sparingly to have it stay in place. then felt over that. Don't be offended, just my 2 cents. I was unable to get thru the entire strategy it's not as bad as others I have seen of what I viewed.
It was my beginner throwing station, I have a real table now, this video was from years ago. Thanks for watching, hope you enjoy my Vegas real craps game videos.
Ok sir, sorry then. I really think most Indian casino's are using flawed dice or what is known a Ace-Six flats. With a lot of time at casinos,(i.e. I used to take folks to an anonymous casino by Bus 5-6 days a week) I happen to be seeing an inordinate amount of 4-1, and 4-6 combinations(5/10) You notice this at all in your trips? 6-1 most common, 5-2 next, and 4-3 seems elusive.( when 7's are showing). Even in well know joints, not just Indian ones. Again I apologize, my strategies are similar to yours but not exact. I would expect you need a rather large bankroll to do that, $400 wouldn't be nearly enough for my skin, too small. I wouldn't ever try that with that little amount. As a dyed in the wool wrong bettor, if I don't see the 4-3 occurring around the same amount as the other 2 types, I will not win for the day or duration of the period say 2-4 hrs. Time to be looking for the exit, conversely if I am seeing TOO MANY 4-3 combo's, I need to be finding the exits, meaning that a shit ton of numbers(in bunches} 'seem to be' far more likely to happen. Something to think about. @@BigAZCrapsGURU
If you were playing those $25 chips on the horn - you would’ve been sitting fat.
Happy New Year
LOL unless you manipulate/control the dice there is no such thing as a winning strategy over time --Math
$25 on Aces and 12
Is this working for you on the bubble craps?
All those snake eyes almost statistically impossible. Incredible
Pass line 1.41. Don’t Pass 1.36
If I was on a $15 table would I be able to play 15 on the don't and 5 on the DC? Or would I have to put 45 on the don't?
45. this is ideal for bubble craps if you are a low limit player. Good luck.
I usually don't like the Don't.. Watching this in consideration of you trying to do dice influence. Even throwing random, you have streaks.. I've been trying a blended strategy. Starting with the Don't. Betting the inside, and playing what the table gives me. Only play the Don't for one loss per shooter. Once a point is made, I play the pass. Although, not many shooters get more the 2 points..
I think if a shooter knocks you off 2 times wait for next shooter.
Why didn't you pay your Dont come bet on snale eyes and 3 ?
Thanks for Watching. I really don't remember. I am getting much better at dealing.
I wanna try this
have never been able to make strategies like this work. either the DP bet gets wiped out on the CO roll, or the DC bets are killed by the 11 and repeating box numbers.
Yeah, that is the negative to the darkside
As a dealer, it was painful watching you count out those chips at the end.
can u hedge the come out roll with two chip in the feild
You could.
This strategy will get destroyed by a good "come bet/point shooter", who hits multiple numbers and points, multiple times before 7 out. Maybe set a $75 loss max per shooter rule.
I agree. This is the type of strategy if the shooter hits his point, just wait till the next roller and repeat the process
love to see DC players while im shooting. I like everyone to make money but not particularly when they bet against me.
Jeffrey Kidwell then you just also like to see the Casino make money. Because pass is in the casino’s favor. Especially since they don’t let you remove the bet. I’d bet don’t pass even if I was the shooter.
@@jeffreykidwell3335 You own the casino ? Casino takes all bets - that's 'takes' .
Hot shooter we don’t want
Acey doucey !!!
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Would like to see this strategy live at a casino
THIS GUY'S MIC IS SO LOUD AND HE IS LIKE SLAMMING EVERYTHING AROUND AND IT'S CRACKING ME UP 😭😭😭
to mechanical you're making the same bet as a mechanic. You're sure to lose on a choppy table which is about 80% of the time. You are better off playing the D/P with place betting.
What is a Dc???
A don't come bet. It is like a don't pass bet mid roll. Whichever number you roll that's where your dc travels to. Then you need a 7 rolled before that specific number.
WAT'S IS D.C, MEANS ???????
Don't Come
I might try this at the casino
I just progressively bet the dont come as I win with a regression in bet size after 4 hits to lock in profits for that hand. Works best on an empty table where you continue as shooter. Its a short game where I play 5 hands and use an outside or horn dice set for the comeout roll and an all sevens set after the point. Low volatility and high profits over a period of 6 months playing almost every day. You will not make any huge scores on a given session, but will make money in the long run with the proper dice sets. The reason for the 5 hands is an exit strategy if you are shooting poorly due to many factors,and if shooting well to lock profits and not let fatigue set in as there are many distractions in a casino. You should never spend more than an hour on a session. The strategy in this video looks like it could be winning by implementing the right dice sets. Need to find empty tables and definitely dont use it on random rollers or dice controllers who play on the right side.
Rarely do I ever win 4 times in a row on don't pass or win 4 don't come bets. but I have won 4- 6(?) times with 3 don'ts up, possibly 6 times since 1984! LOL.
I can't play the don't when I throw the dice will beat myself up.
From my analysis... it's best to bet all you want on DC, rather than lay the odds afterwards .. or only lay the odds on a number without DC
4:01 mark, you rolled 7, took your losing DC bet and put it in your rack. 👎🏼
Why you lost in Vegas you must have run into a hit shooter
Like that
GET RID OF THAT DONT PASS THE BAR BECAUSE NOBODY IS BETTING LOL
No 'Don't Come'?
Every video it works on dp ...
When I play I get p line
Why not place the point?????