Bioenno 20AH Portable Ham Radio endurance test.
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- I attempt to find out how long I can operate the 20AH battery for.
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Great stuff wondered how these are as i lug around a marine deep cycle battery!! Thanks for this really appreciate it.
You must be trying to kill yourself with that battery. This thing only weighs 5 pounds! When you buy one, let em know who sent ya! 73
I have five of them, all gifts. When I get the money, I will definitely be getting one.
Been to Maybury MANY times. Still live down the road. I'm seeing that you are enjoying TX. Jealous. KM8RTY
Hey Mike can I confirm if this is a LIFEPO4 battery? Thanks for a great vid buddy 73
He introduced it in a previous video. Yes it is a LIFEPO4
Got my tech I’ll be on 10m enjoying the sun in Florida Ocala. Hope to hear you on maybe this weekend KQ4EXM
Thanks for the "stress test" review of this battery. My Bioenno 12V 12AH will be my main POTA battery as well. Hope to work you park to park soon, 73 AC4FS
Hi friend, how long can you stream at 100wtt with that battery?
Best video ever for batteries. That’s all i wanted to know. Thank you
Would a 12A Bioenno battery work for my IC-7300?
Thanks for testing this....tough job but someone had to do it. Lol
I'm putting in the hard work so you guys don't have to haha!
Why do the batteries have two output/input leads?
Another great review ! I'm planning my first pota outing still a month or 2 out but was getting close to acquiring a marine deep cycle those always do well for repeater backup but not easily "portable". I've never heard of this battery until now its definitely one to look into. Thanks bro
Good test. Glad I'll be able to operate awhile with my ft891. Found out there are 2 parks near me that have never been activated. Cant wait to activate them.
Oh yeah you will be plenty fine for sure. Now get out there, those parks ain't gonna activate themselves!!
I would say that battery held up well! I need to get one of them still. haha Great video Mike! 73
I am very impressed with the overall quality and performance for sure.
Very Nice! (In my best Borat voice). Those 7300s are very good radios. I used one on VHF field day. Being able to loop your CQ call makes it very easy. The battery performed very well as did your antenna. I have my full/extra exam next week so hopefully will have access to full power from then onwards. 73s
They are incredible batteries. I can use my 30ah battery over a weekend trip without worrying about running out. On CW at 90 watts (low sunspots mean more power) it will draw the battery down. I was operating yesterday starting with a battery that I used for about 4 hours a few days before, as well as running my VHF radio for a few nets and was able to operate for 3 hours. It dipped to 11.7 volts a few times (that is the level that I have for my battery warning) but it did not stop putting out full power. I need to get one of those meters you have so I can be more quantitative, but I agree with you these batteries are nothing short of amazing.
Surprising .. One great battery. antenna works great to. Good to work you again.
Really helpful in making a battery decision. 73 K2MR Ron
Glad to help
Thanks for another video .. as always GREAT info !
Thanks for another contact Mike. Until our next one safe travels.
Thanks!
Wow, thank you so much! I really appreciate that!
Hey Mike! Thanks so much for that review... I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on one... it will serve 2 purposes... 1, my car makes SO much noise in my radio it's rediculous... Talked to Kevin at Bionno... what a great guy... emailed me back on a Sunday evening... did not expect that.,.. he gave me great advice... get the bioenno battery, 20 amp and a West Mountain Power Gate and I'd be completely isolated from my car's noise... anyway..... lol ... my 2nd use is doing what you do... I've been doing the POTA activation thing a little lately...think i've activated 7 parks so far.... I've done all my stuff so far from my mobile setup (7100, Diamond multiband HF/vHF/UHF mobile antenna (works good) and have a Diamond Screwdriver that I'm going to get going after i get the battery. but... sorry... blah blah.. I want to get my butt out of the car during nice weather and put up a good antenna... Thanks so much for doing this vid... I was going to 'be a man' and go for the 30 amp battery... after watching this.. why would I? BTW... we worked FT8 back in sept of 18 on 40... glad to see you making vids... been doing this craziness for over 25 years now.. anyway... thanks again... keep up the good work...
Yeah Kevin is pretty good people. Service second to none for sure. Its way better in my opinion to actually be outside operating POTA. I do a lot of car activations on my lunch breaks, (before the apocalypse) and its fun, but I just love being outside. Looks like you will be too soon. 73
Do you think the ic7300 would have similar success with a Miady 20ah battery?
It should.
Marlboro Ultra lights 100's on your backpack?
Nope
Great video. I am curious, what do you have connected between the voltmeter and the radio? Never really get a good look at it in the video, and I am guessing it is some kind of voltage regulator, but not sure why you would need one? You don't have a link to it on the list of equipment in the description. Perhaps it's a fused power distribution box?
Thanks.
Pedro, VA7PAC
You guessed it. A fused power distribution box. It’s the HamRadioWorkbench one. I did a video about it you can get all the info from.
I agree, for me the most important, crucial part of the review is the actual set up. Everything after 0:40 sec is obvious, but the dc power distribution and connections specific to your test and your transceiver and other peripherals are skipped. These details wouldve added a great deal more utility to your review, even if you think they’re “obvious”. Video and audio of you operating are frankly, superfluous. It’s the setup, power connections, and data collection that matter most, then skip the actual operating, then cut to the chase to analyze the data.
Great video! I have the 30ah in a Pelican 1510 go kit and based on Bioenno specs at 100w, I should get 15 hours of runtime, 20ah 10 hours, amazing and worth the extra money for sure 73 de N1AD
Yeah they really are amazing batteries. I don't think at the rate I was going I would get 10 hours out of it but it definitely outlasted me for sure.
K8MRD RADIO STUFF yeah these ratings are based on the draw of a mobile rig not a base station
Thanks for doing another great video, i'm considering getting a 10AH battery for portable operations. I use an ft857D. I'll be running about 20 watts for about 3 or 4 hours. Will a 10 AH be sufficient?
That should be fine. I don't know what the 857 draws on RX and it would really depend on your duty cycle/mode of operating. I don't think you would have any issues especially running 20 watts. Kick that up to 100 watts with a full on pileup and you will go through that 10 ah in prob 2-3 hours.
@@hamradiotube Excellent, thank you kindly for sharing your day at the park. Very informative! The 857 draws about 1 amp on receive and it uses about 21 amps on tx at 100 watts. Good dx to you.73 de VE3QJ
Always fun to watch! Great real world eval on the battery. 73!
Very impressive performance, thanks! What's the unit you had hooked up downstream from the Powerwerx meter? I couldn't tell what it was.
That is the HamRadioWorkbench 12v power supply. Its really just a power pole distribution box. I did a video on it.
@@hamradiotube Awesome, thanks, I'll check it out!
Great Video Mike. 'Thanks
I watching all your video's . Great job and I waiting for next 👌😀 All the best for you from Poland 73 de SP3AJ 😉
Nice to have someone from Poland watching! Would love to go there some day.
Thanks Adi. It's cool to hear from people all over the world that are watching. 73
Thanks for NOT editing me out at 5:51 I was getting blasted with QRM that day... 73 N3QAM
Haha your welcome. Yeah I think there was some kind of contest that day.
I was inspired by a video from K7IJF a while back. He built a battery supply into a Pelican 1430 Hard Case. I stepped it up a bit, and installed a Bioenno 40 Amp Battery, along with a 20 Amp MPPT Solar Charge Controller, MC-4 to Powerpole Adaptor, TWO Powerpole Dual Plugs, Two Powerpole Cig Sockets and TWO 2 Port 3 AMP usb outs on the control Panel, along with a Samlex 350 Watt Pure Sine Inverter. The thing is AWESOME!
Looks like its working pretty good - I need to order one soon! Looking forward to working you park-park and RUclips Channel to RUclips channel at some point. 73 and thanks!
Its fantastic! I sometimes go out on Saturday, but mostly Mondays. Less people staring at you during the week.
Will a set of standard 12 VDC "cigarette lighter" connector work to connect the IC-7300 to an Li-ion battery or do I need to go with Anderson Powerpole connectors? The reason I ask is that the external 12 VDC outlets on my RV are female "cigarette lighter" type and it would be great if I could use the same cable setup to connect to the Bioenno battery as I use to connect to the RV.
It should. I use my cigarette port in my car to power my 50 watt vhf/uhf radio as I cannot get through the fire wall. I just put a bigger fuse on it. A lot of people will tell you not to do it but I don’t have a choice. You could also make a cigarette to powerpole adapter so you could just have power poles on your radio and use the cig adapter when you need it. I’m a huge power pole fan so everything I get 12v DC immediately gets them. That way everything is standardized and if you need adapters you can do that too.
@@hamradiotube Thank you. Cig adapater to power pole great idea for standardization.
@@TheArecf Power pole the world buddy. Power pole the world.
Great Test Mike thanks.
I'd like to be able to power more than one device off one Bioenno battery, like a transceiver, wattmeter and computer, provided the battery can safely supply that much current. How would I be able to do that? Would I need one of those RIGRunner panels?
73 VE7NDE
Thats certainly possible. You'd prob want a bit bigger battery than the 20AH though if you want to charge your computer.. For your radio and watt meter you can just get an inline watt meter like the PowerWerx one I use and that would take care of that. For your computer, unless you have a 12V input on it, you would need an inverter to go from 12V to 120V and then plug in your computers power cord. This is really inefficient but it works. I've done it with my computer, inverter, and 10AH battery. Pretty sure I used most of the battery just charging the computer. You also have to consider the current draw of your radio and your computer while they are both in use. The only reason you would need a rig runner or some type of distribution block would be if you want to plug multiple power pole devices into it, which with this configuration you probably wouldn't. Also, another thing to consider, as I was going to do this same setup for Field Day last summer, is the quality of inverter you get. We picked up a couple from amazon for about $30 each, and they put out an incredible amount of RFI, rendering them totally useless while we were operating.
@@hamradiotube No, not that variety of wattmeter. I'm referring to the one on the other side of the transceiver, like an MFJ-849.
And you would really need a "pure sine wave" inverter if you want to avoid RF hash from it.
@@denelson83 Oh that kind of watt meter. That's no problem, they draw very little power. But yes you would need a power pole distribution block for that, the radio and the pure sine wave inverter.
I just drop-tested my 20AH....it didn't go well. Tore the shrink wrap, and the PVC case separated on the back end. Totally my fault, but won't take a charge now. Hats off to Bioenno though. Sent them an email, and they said to ship it in, and they would take a look at it.
W6BKM
Oof, that sucks. I'm sure its prob something that can be fixed. Most likely a wire came disconnected on one of the cells or the BMS.
You have a Bioenno 20ah...I have a Bioenno 20 ah...what are the chances!? Last winter field day, I worked VHF simplex all day long at 50 watts and the battery held steady at 13.25 V.
Thats crazy, haha! These batteries are fantastic for sure.
After watching this video has convinced me on the battery I'm now going to purchase for my rig. Thanks keep up the great videos...73....
Glad I could help
Mike, what is the make/model of your little laptop? Is it also capable of software updates for your transceiver and programing? I'm a Mac OS guy, new to HAM, so I'm looking to get a small Windows laptop as I too normally operate remotely from the field throughout CONUS. Regards~ JD
I cannot condone the use of any windows computer, even though I had to use one for field day. That's an iPad mini with a bluetooth keyboard. Logging software is called HamLog.
Nicely done Mike...Thanks for including my contact with you on the video..que @ 11:20...Look for ya again soon.. de W7TY Idaho K-2249 Three island Crossing SP
Hey thanks for being part of the activation. It was great working all the other POTA stations that day.
hello, i need help on this question; I am running a ft-450d ham radio that pulls 13.8 volts at 22 amps my question is, i want to run 8 Pack Headway 38120HP LifePO4 Battery Cells to operate the radio but have the battery pack connected to a bus bar that is fed by a 220 amp alternator that will be shared by 2 deep cycle batteries that will power other devices. when pulling power from the lithium battery pack the lithium battery pack might pull the charging juice from the deep cycle batteries because they are sharing the same bus bar and alternator is there a resistor that i can put in place to minimize this from happening and to draw more power from the lithium battery pack than its charging source without killing the lithium battery pack? it will almost be the same concept as my car battery mod with the lithium battery and supercapacitors.
Yeah I would have no idea about that one, sorry.
cool
thanks
Is that a voltmeter/wattmeter between your battery and radio? I am looking for something that I can continuously monitor the voltage of my new Bioenno 20A battery while I am operating. I see that Powerwerx carries one, but I don’t know if it the best out there. Ok now I see you are using the Powerwerx meter. I see it for $49.99 on their site. Is that the same one you are using? Do I just buy the meter with the Anderson Powerpole Connectors and I am good to go? What powers the meter?
Yes I am using the Powerworx meter. It’s the most accurate one I have. It goes between the battery and the radio and is powered my the battery.
Wonderful to see a stress test with the 7300 as that is what I am currently building into my go box. I’ve been eyeing a Bioenno for the battery box and looks like this just sealed the deal. Thank you!
It's definitely a good one to have in the arsenal.
What is the voltage as you transmit? Does that battery drop to 12(ish) like a deep cycle lead acid?
It drops down to the upper 12V range. Prob 12.7-12.9 depending on what mode you're using.
Hi Mike , where do you find the State Park locator number your using ?
John Martin go to parksontheair.com and search the park you are interested in. They all have their own number.
Another great video Mike. Hope to work you on the air again one day DE N9LUC 73s
Thanks. Good things come to those who wait. Keep watching the cluster.
Hey, what logging software are you using on the iPad? Keep up the great videos!!
It’s called HamLog. Thanks for watching.
Great video❗️what software App are you using with your iPad mini❓I am going to set up my old iPad Pro for my log in contacts.
Thanks Mike. I’m using a no longer available app called HamLog. You should be able to download an App called HAMRS by Jarrett Green. I use it on every device I have except my iPad because it’s too old. It is by far the absolute best app for potable logging. It’s designed for POTA and won’t really replace a full blown logging program, but it’s perfect for what we need out in the field. When I’m done I upload my logs to the POTA website and transfer the contacts to my main logging software on my Mac called Aether.
@@hamradiotube THANKS MIKE I am just getting back into Ham Radio after being out for the last 12 years so I am having to re-learn a lot that I have forgot, my CW especially. I didn’t know you lived in this part of Texas until the other day and I looked your call sign up and we are only about 35 miles apart, really enjoy your videos❗️73 KV5P
Oh cool! Hit me up if you want to do a POTA together. I’m always down.
@@hamradiotube Oh❗️ thanks so much for the invitation but I am not young and agile anymore, I have to be content with the recliner and my desk. I hope you find a new great job very soon, you will find Huntsvill a nice place to live. KV5P. Mike
@@hamradiotube Mike I was on your Friday Night Live with Jason and herd you planning an even on Lake Livingston. We have several good repeaters in our area but the best is the Cold Springs 442.150 the antenna is at 400ft and has great coverage, the Livingston repeater is pretty good 147.040, we have several more that on the Lake but not too high so coverage is not great. I will keep up whit when you have your PODTA Dow here and try to get over to the park and meet all you great GUYS ❗️73. KV5P
That antenna is it fishing Pole?
I looking on the description is it right sir 73
The antenna is the PackTenna linked dipole. The mast is a a fishing pole.
Very good. Would love one of those. Maybe someday.
I remember military handles
My 20aH just arrived today. Using the Bioenno charging brick. How long should first charge take, and how long can the battery be on the charger? Concerned about damage from overcharge. I have a 7300, too, and will be operating portable using a homebrew buddipole dipole anntenna I recently built.
Congrats. I think the charger puts out 2-4 amps so if your battery is totally depleted maybe 5 hours or so. I honestly don't use Bioennos charger a lot so you may have to experiment.
@@hamradiotube Thanks! So far, so good. Glad I spent the cash on the battery.
Next year We should have a five year NPOTA event!
Yeah but every day is a POTA day. You just have to get out there, put out some RF, and they will come.
Thanks a lot Mike!¿ $946 later I purchased a Bioenno BLF-1230A, BPC-1506DC & an FT-891 like I really needed more radios.. Everyone Does!! Including ME!! Great videos, hope you don’t upgrade your portable which means I spend more 🥵 73 from N1YLO Central CT
Sounds like you should be set for a couple more months before you get the itch to buy something else. I do have the 7300 as well so you might need to get one of those soon too ;p
I have a used 7300 still sitting in the box need to get my radio room put together. Mostly bought the 891 and Bioenno for portable use only with the Wolf River. Really enjoyed the video!
Can you make a Video how to set up this Antenna on this video please🤗.
Check out the video I did on the PackTenna linked dipole.
Love my bioenno. Great too see some one test it at full power.
Thanks for the video. I was going to do the same test but now I don’t feel the need to. Thanks again 73s
No prob, thanks for watching. You still should try it. Its good to know first hand what your equipment can do.
Mike , Really needing some input from you been away from the hobby for way too long like a decade and I never did do much portable or field work, and with the holiday weekend coming up soon I need to figure out what battery is going to work best for me I want to take my 100 W radio with me and use it from inside my camping trailer most of the radio work will be confined to the evening hours , i’m guessing between five and nine or 10 PM so roughly about four hours .
I need something that’s going to work for me for about four or five days using it like that so during the day I could try to figure out how to recharge it back up I will be dry camping but will have my generator with me can you help point me in the right direction as to what would be the best for me
Depends on how much you’re going to tx and what mode. If you’re doing light casual ssb operation this battery should last you a couple days without charging. If you’re planning on calling CQ POTA and running a pileup you will need to recharge it most likely every day. If you have a generator just get the charger from Bioenno. It’s like $20 and charge it off that. Or get a solar panel and charge controller and pray that it’s sunny while you’re out.
@@hamradiotube Probably 60/40 60% listening 40% talking and would be side band
Just rag chewing
Well your 100 watt radio is prob going to draw about 1ah on rx. So 5ah's will be used just being on during that time. You'd prob use at least another 5ah but prob closer to 7-10 if you're going to be talking that much. To put it into perspective, I used ~14.5 amp hours of battery in about 3 hours running an almost non stop pileup doing a POTA one day. Got about 300 contacts. I usually only run 90 watts though and was using the 891.
Remember that one time you used your Tarheel and memory controller, I ordered the memory controller today from HRO and it will be here in time.. my Tarheel on my truck is working fantastic. So for now I will will be running longer coax and a longer control cable into the travel trailer with me and operating that way
What box do you use to transport your 7300?
It's the Apache 4800 I think is the number. From Harbor Freight.
What app are u using on ur iPad mini to log ur contacts.
It's called HamLog.
Posted about a week before I passed Extra!
I just re-watched this and realized I gave you a TD by mistake. That has been rectified.
Can't wait to get back home (in S. Africa visiting family until they lift the quarantines) and get back in the parks again. 73 Mike!
Well thanks for the views and the new thumbs up! I trust you didn't bring a radio to S. Africa? That would be terrible for me.
@@hamradiotube Yer quite welcome Mike and not to worry. The Prez of the local club (klub) lives 1/2 mile down the road and he loaned me his old IC 726 and a KW AT-130 tuner so I be on da air here. Unfortunately we're surrounded by low mountains 1500-1600 meters (or is that feet?) that seem to be keeping me from DXing the USA. Got 4 summits within sight of the farm that have never been activated tho so next trip i'm packing my POTA gear (and the new 891) with me for some SOTA.
@@buckeye5704 Oh good, at least you have something to play with while you're there. I guess you're not doing much more than NVIS from that location but its better than nothing. It's a nice thing to be able to be the first one to activate pota/sota. I would be all over those peaks!
Dakota Lithium is another good one to check out... I run their 10Ah on my 891 :)
What kind of run time do you get out of it?
Andy Robinson I’ve never run it flat yet. I have not really tested it. I have gone for 2-3 hours at a time.
That was pretty sick! Great video.
It's always a blast playing portable radio for hours on end. Thanks for watching. 73
great test, thanks. 73 va3krt
I still have yet to even come close to draining this battery while portable. Thanks for watching. 73
Super, cheers
Great work man.
If I may ask what is park to park?
One Parks on the Air station working another Parks on the Air station.
Power my 991A with the Bioenno 1220...fantastic battery...
Hi Mark, how long does the battery typically last. I just bought a 991A and am looking at portable solutions.
@@rantingraven4428 I've gotten 8 hrs...now I use voice modes mostly...so that's part of it...and listen far more than I talk...but I've gotten 8 hours out...
@@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 Are you using any sort of solar for charging while operating. I am going to use mostly voice. Are you using the 20 amp or 30amp? KI5ODV here.
@@rantingraven4428 no solar...20 amp is sufficient
@@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 Thank you very much.
"Real tomato ketchup Eddie?" "Nothing but the best Clark"
Oh hell yeah!! One of the best lines of the movie. Up there with 50 yards! It's hard to pin down just on though. "How do you like it?" "Oh, medium, medium rare. A little pink in the middle." "I meant your bun". Haha! I could do the whole movie.
@ham radio cb dude What did you have in mind?
@ham radio cb dude Yeah we can do an activation together sometime. I haven't activated Proud Lake. Doesn't look like there are too many places to set up though. It's mostly wooded.
@ham radio cb dude Yep I am mike. All you need for POTA is a radio that can get you on the ham bands. You also need to sign up on the parksontheair.com website. Thats pretty much it.
and you can do any band you want, just no repeaters.
This gives me hope. I just bought and received a 30ah Bioenno because my fully charged deep cycle RV battery on its own will not power the 7300 after 3 digital mode transmissions at 25 watts. The draw from my 7300 is too much for it.
Thats odd your deep cycle wouldn't supply enough current. The Bioenno surely will. You should be able to go for quite a while with that 30AH too. Good choice.
@@hamradiotube Just an update...I got a 50ah bioenno because the 30 amp hour will not keep the 7300 going on digital modes. My guess is that it being a digital mode is the problem. The 50 won't keep it powered either, radio shuts down even at 10 watts of digi mode. I haven't tried on voice but maybe that's the difference...
@@chadlpnemt Hmmm, that doesn't sound right. I'll have to try that when I get home. Does it not work at all? How long is it lasting?
@@hamradiotube On JS8 Call I get probably 3 transmissions before the radio cuts out. I just put my 30ah on it and did voice and sure enough it doesn't kill the radio. Had a 10 min. QSO to Florida. Higher duty cycle on digital mode maybe? But on dig modes, yeah, it's not good on a battery. I've tried so many batteries with pretty much the same result. On my 857 though, I can run the dig mode a little longer. Ok on both radios for receive, but transmitting, the 7300 just takes too much power.
@@chadlpnemt I just text Mr JS8 call KM4ACK to see if he's had any issues. I'm out of ideas. I'm honestly shocked you're having problems.