THE FINALS IS HERE... But Will It Last? - First Impressions
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Since this video is randomly blowing up (lol YT moment) I'll clarify some things I see in the comments.
1. I obviously don't want the game to fail. I stated up front that I'm actively having fun with it.
2. My concerns about the longevity of this game could easily be put to rest, but with how recent FPS games have been going I prefer to not get invested too heavily lol.
3. My comments about the meta / annoying strategies like continually blowing the floor up stand. There are clear balance issues (heavy OP), but that can be patched and likely will be. The destruction, cheesy gadget spam, and explosive 1 shots are pretty solidified in the game and could be changed, but probably won't be. It isn't like they are going to remove the RPG or something lol. We'll see how the game progresses, but I can already kinda tell it'll get spammy.
4. I'm aware glitch grenades exist.
Me and my team are running 2x Mediums (with heal & defibs) + 1x Heavy (flamethrower and both shields etc.). This seems really strong because u have a juggernaut heavy and a lot of utility and can clear all that gas spam with one flamethrower tick.
We were clapping in a lot of tournaments until one light player destroyed this whole strat with constant godly placed glitch grenades. Making our whole setup useless for 5 seconds.
So I hope there will always be a great counter against any team comp in this game like this one.
Don't really get your comments about blowing out the floor under cashouts?
It is just a good strategy to avoid clearing a stacked room of turrets, gas mines and all that nasty stuff. And guess what u still give the enemy team the highground with this, which is a huge advantage.
This game is finally something new in the fps market, it's polished, it has great destruction and I love the longer TTK. Really hope this game keeps succeeding!
Good grief man not you lot starting with the balance issues OP blablabla bullshit on yet another new game. If you don't like the chaos and insanity and vertical play of The Finals play something else. Please don't start demanding change and ruining the game for the rest of us to make it like every other game. Thats how they destroyed R6 Siege.
@@buzzbuzzard3809 "play something else" isn't always the argument you think it is. look how that worked out for that famous bit from BFV exec. BFV had many other issues but "don't like it, don't buy it" certainly didn't help its player count, reception and longevity.
This ain't it chief... the destruction is the whole gimmick and the "gadget spam" thing is just the gameplay loop. Just go play Fortnite or BF5 if you want less gadgets.
"ruining the game" to you is actually making the game better in reality lol@@buzzbuzzard3809
I have been playing solo and it has been a lot of fun. Can't remember the last time I actually had fun with an FPS and played multiple hours straight. It feels fresh, and one of the main things I have noticed is just how well made and polished every area is. It is so rare these days. I do share the concerns of what the meta will become, but it is too early to tell. And the devs seem to be willing to listen to feedback.
saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
Same. I've also been playing Apex and Bf2042 as solo and Finals probably replaced my need to play Apex ever again. Finals' gameplay loop is just a lot less frustrating, even as a solo you play the game and maybe win, probably not, then grind some more. Having braindead teammates and losing doesn't matter that much in Finals, you can still have fun.
It’s only fun when your teammates aren’t terrible
What u say is just stupid. No offence. But you are not thinking when u say such things as : having braindewd teamates and losing doesnt matter, yu can still have fun”. Allright, do u think you will think the same in 6 monthhs with a 33% win ratio and having to play with stupid teamates most of your games? The game is fun right now because it s NEW. Thta s all. But solo queue players are gona leave after some times because it wont be fun any more. At all. @@tf2mrblonde
Its so chaotic that its bad. 0/10
I hope it succeeds. It’s just so much fun.
Same
I wish this would have a TDM or Conq Mode. Looks like a better framework for BF than BF itself :D
And that is so sad comin from true bf fans 🤦🏾♂️
@@goooat8260Uh, Im sure it was made by some of the OG battlefield devs so do with that info as you please.
Conq Mode sounds really fun.
A conquest mode would be cool but a TDM would get boring very fast
Ehhh, not sure. Feels very different mechanically but I know what you mean
The Finals suprised me even after launch, great performance until now and really fun to play!
Where is your Pfp from?
@@technopancake85 i think it was from a hardware Contest on youtube. cant remember the name :/
Yeah the performance is good
not too sure about the performance, needs better optimization. running a 2080ti and a 10700k and i can barely hit 144 fps with all low and everything in the bg turned off@@EndersFPS
I think a lot of the issues stem from the game mode actually. The passive campy play style would not exist in something like domination or “push the cash”
there’s bank it aswell which is the complete opposite
the campy playstyle do not exist when u can shoot with rpg and destroy half of "campy" stuff
@@gruchenstein9163have fun camping in a building that is collapsing on your head lol
ME : Camping ? That building going down lmao
Yeah I don't like the game mode, but the game is fun.
If it doesn't stick with the competitive crowd and streamers, I see that as a massive W for the game.
I get that lol it will just be less populated but it should be ok
The game is literally built for competitive and streaming / YT is important for games nowadays lol
@@EndersFPSthey need to understand that not everybody wants to be a sweaty little shithead if they want to the game to last they need to prioritize their non competitve market
Being built for competitive is literally what made RB6 Siege less fun. Took everything fun out of the game
@@EndersFPS not everyone is a sweaty nerd…we just wanna have fun and this game is fun, understand?
What has something like CoD that The Finals hasn't have? Warzone is the most repeatable game I ever played and its still being played by thousands of people everyday
Warzone is purpose built for casuals
Loving the finals so far. Tons of opportunity for this game to break out if they fully support it. I think some new game modes would be great, otherwise yeah it could get stale.
I see what you’re saying for sure. It’s too bad that gaming has become synonymous with grinding. If you look at this game and appreciate it at its core, it’s a blast. However, people seem to forget how to have fun and instead want to win, and only win, at all costs. Even if it means blocking objectives to pad their stats. Exploiting mechanics has become the norm. With that being said, I hope this game can continue to evolve and improve. If they can add death match or a revolving objective, it should be okay.
That’s what I’ve been having though for me and a lot of people I’ve played with so far. It’s fun playing whether win or lose.
@@Vortex_ICEcoldthat’s been my experience with The Finals. Whenever I lose, I’m still having fun and I get that “just one more game” itch
Exploiting mechanics for personal gain has always been the norm. If you're playing a game that is competitive by nature and you're not playing to win, you're a loser.
It is fun. Actually I’ve been winning by having fun tbh. Heavy with sledgehammer is great. It’s annoying for others but cmon, just go take down a skyscraper and maybe ur team can make it work on obj. All these cod players think it’s the same game when it’s not. Let it be unique. They do need to add more tho
@@Vortex_ICEcold Ima keep enjoying this game as long as they keep adding more to it. Idc about sweats or OT because like I said I’m having fun regardless
I think the gameplay is fine and I don't think the Devs will sit by and let a meta like that occur. They seem to be listening very well to feedback and seem to be willing to make changes that are suggested.
In my opinion I don't think the Devs are going to be stupid enough to let the game fade. They know they are onto a winner and I don't think they will just let that go.
I do think there are a lot of changes needed to make the game sustainable. Workshop/Custom maps and Game modes would be a great way to keep the community alive. With the mechanics in the game there is potential for some really great custom game modes and really an infinite amount of possibilities to use the games engine to create some really amazing things.
I think there needs to be an earnable in game currency for skins and the overall cost of skins and accessories needs to come WAY down in price. They will quadruple their sales if they make the skins cheaper. I think more in depth character customization and being able to make your own team names obviously with a profanity filter. I think There also needs to be a short form ranked mode much like CS2 did. I think the tournament mode is far to large of an investment of time for a lot of players and a short form would keep those people engaged in the game.
I also think they have an amazing opportunity to create a truly amazing esports scene if they invest the money and time into it. There are great opportunities for casting and even the arena set up for the stage. They could quite honestly make a whole thing out of the world they have created and expand it into other games and merch.
I just hope they realize that.
@@Vortex_ICEcold I don't think so. The Devs of this game left Battlefield for a reason. Time will tell I guess.
@@ItsKrispyKev They left Battlefield because it was a sinking ship devoid of any quality or creativity.
@@Albus_Rex exactly?
Do you think they will make the same mistake?
@@ItsKrispyKev I'm just pointing out that they left dice because it's on death's door. One more bad release and who knows what EA will do to them. That doesn't make them (embark) saints out to save the industry. They are simply looking out for themselves.
@@Vortex_ICEcold lol "the fps genre is dead" which planet are you living dude?
its no longer fun for solos, your teammate either leaves early or just dont play objectives. had an experience with a duo where they will throw sht at me or poison me to death lol.
Even beta version acts the same
Yeah, this is a full team game. I played with one friend yesterday, and the random was always holding us back. They'd run off on their own and die, or leave.
And it s gona be worse and worse. Thing is on top of that is that in normal games, you have two teams competing and mathematically u have more chances to win games. In theses conditions, it s very hard to win a game when there are 3 or 4 teams competing. And more teams competing also means u have more chances to compete against a duo or trio team which will anihilate solo teams.
@@dgeciI mean there are other games like call of duty in battlefield that has two teams. You can go play those. Every game doesn't have to be the same. There are markets for different people. This market just may not be for you.
Honestly, meh.
I respect the features and all, but the ttk of 4 years and the childish fortnite lore is a bit trashy.
I see why they wanted to pivot, but imagine a proper bf like franchise. COD is dead, BF players are forced to play a barely tolerable bf2042. Would have been a gold mine.
BF needs a good competitor to light a fire under their arse. WW3 wasn't it and who's even talking about battlebit anymore?
I wouldn't play the finals if it wasn't for my friends busting my b@lls to play it with them. The whole vibe is insufferable.
“… the solo experience is not that enjoyable …” exactly my point since the beta. That s why I asked for a solo queue on reddit. This game experience is awfull when u play against team for a solo player. And will become even more awfull once the meta solidifies.
The ability to destroy buildings with a dug-in team with a cashout station is the whole point of the game. This strategy is advertised in nearly all of their gameplay trailers. if you don't like that play a different game
no literally. if your team is skilled enough to start blowing floors out while defending themselves then good on them. i have been able to win in games where the floors have been blown out by other teams, it's all just part of the game. seem's like he just doesnt like desctruction being used as a tool to win.
Imagine getting upset because the opposing team is playing the objective and not going for kills exclusively 🤷♂️
imagine enjoying a stalling simulator
I disagree with most of what was said. This is by far the funnest game I’ve played in a long time and I don’t see it going down. I only see it going up. I also like the fact that Heavy are powerful, I think they should be. You should learn counter a heavy. You can’t just walk on in as a light against a heavy and not expect to obliterated
Yeah I agree with you.
I only play light and I never have any problems with heavy players because I don't just run in and expect to kill everyone. I wait until everyone is busy and then I engage and kill everyone.
@@ItsKrispyKev exactly, and plus I’ve never 1 shot kill a light with full health, unless it’s a direct hit with an rpg. That should make sense. I don’t think a heavy needs a nerf, people just need to learn how to deal with them.
@@BZ_Kai Yeah I think the issue is that people are going into this game with the mind frame of other FPS games and expect to own everyone. This is a new game. Most people I have come across don't use any of the map and usable items to aid them in a fight they just run in and expect to gun someone down.
I think people who play Rainbow 6 Seige will dominate this game straight off the bat but everyone else has a pretty big learning curve before they can truly have an opinion.
The only time I die as light is if I've fucked up and am out of position. It's not a balance problem. It's a player problem.
You like that heavy is strong because you probably abuse it lol
@@EndersFPSI’m a light & medium build and don’t have a issue with heavy
My main issue with the game has to be the weapons. Everything is customizable but the weapons. Sure they have skins but I would like to see attachments in the future.
Bro it is much more enjoyable and less repetitive than Warzone. Had lots of fun playing solo, something that doesn't happen for me in CoD at all.
its a really good game but it wont be king till they add more gamemodes and other stuff to do other than that it is such a good game
Csgo is the biggest fps game of all time and it has like 1 gamemode
@@SnaggyDemon not anymore it is
@@lordthomas7147 i dont even play it but it def is😂 biggest esport too and the biggest fps, unless u name one bigger
@@lordthomas7147 atm its 2nd top selling GAME on steam , not fps game , GAME
@@SnaggyDemon I was doing some research and ur right maybe fortnite is bigger but csgo is still Poppin
I liked this game but after a few games I'm exhausted. And after a few days of playing I need to take a break. Maybe its just me personally but games like valorant, cs, bf, cod have moments where you can relax and breathe. But in the finals every moment is so stressful, add that to having to land 30 shots straight or you die, idk the health of this game is a big turn off for me.
I have a stack and would be considered really sweaty 😂
Most of what your saying about wasting the opponents time is the entire point of the game. And lights perfectly counter heavy’s with the emp nades and also have better guns.
I don’t know how this will shift too the casual community. But the opportunity is there and if r6 can be as complicated and popular is it is, the finals has a shot!
I'm on the same team as one of the highest ranked players right now. We've won tournaments in other games together. He's telling me that I'm right with what I said about the meta, and I think as the game progresses it'll become more clear
If solo you'll play with randoms and probably have a bad time, that was my concern. I played with a friend yesterday and we abused the heavy build. We and the one random on the team all picked heavy, then sat on top of the floating platform cashout and destroyed the ziplines up. Ez W. I do believe it will die out though. It's just new, trendy... and free.
Seeing the actual cash shop was disheartening though. There was basically nothing to buy in there with the earnable ingame currency. Plus everything in the battlepass, should you buy it, looked stupid in my opinion. I'll probably be running the base track suit forever, the cosmetics are so overpriced. Could workout in my favour though. No one expects the generic Boris player in 2042 to pull some clutch play either.
alg boost +1
I like a lot of about the game, the gunplay feels great and the graphics are really impressive. The game has big balance issues though, the over presence of explosives being a big dampener on the fun of the game for me.
The gameplay and movement feels good to me but the level of hyper focus you need to be on at all times with reviving enemies and no dedicated respawn locations unless you aren’t revived and getting obliterated by grinders while it takes you 3 magazines to take out a single enemy keeps me playing in small doses like a match or two and I can’t deal with it anymore but that could just be me. Similar reason why I gave up on C.O.D games. The fun is there it’s just difficult to really enjoy when you’re getting slapped all over the place over and over again. The UI is also a little clunky with the item wheel etc. with how fast paced the game is a lot of actions don’t feel very intuitive more so frustrating and time consuming.
I think it’ll last but they need to keep on adding new game modes
Your arguments contradicts themselves.
It's repetitive, people gonna use same thing OR they gonna abuse spots or map
Tell me in which game it doesn't happen?
Whole battlefield and call of duty is built on same thing.
Best selling games only do same things
Eg - Cod, halo, witcher(swing and dodge), apex(same map, weapons), GTA(go to point a to b and shoot). People like doing repetitive things. Hell your content is still same, people view your videos
You sound salty over a Man words besides unlike this game Battlefield cod and other games you mentioned add events to make things interesting well this is just release let's see it has to offer
While I respect your opinion, I feel like all the gripes you’re talking about makes me think that the game is not for you. I personally am REALLY enjoying the game and having a lot of fun with it and rooting it for it to succeed.
About your point of playing solo and destruction:
- This is a TEAM based game, you obviously need/want a team in order to succeed so I don’t get the argument that playing solo is not a good experience. It isn’t, you’re supposed to team up.
- Destruction is one of the main features of the game, advertised everywhere. If you don’t like that then the game is not for you.
Obviously the game is not perfect and some things need some rebalancing but as a whole it’s a breath of fresh air in a crowded, boring FPS/BR dominated genre.
So no offence to you, but ya just don’t get it. You’re talking about and treating this like a traditional shooter. This is not a traditional shooter.
“If the meta is area denial, I’m not for it.” That’s the whole point though. This game isn’t about running around, finding kills, and being obnoxious. It’s about manipulating the map to your advantage to play the objective.
Blowing the floor out is a legitimate strategy to win the game. Create confusion amongst the enemy, and exploit it. Like this game is just dumb fun, and if they ever dared acknowledge this complaint, it would just be another shooter.
Tbh this game has gained attention like 2018 Fortnite and as long as they can take advantage of its glory now make the right moves I see this game going for 10 + years with how people are about they’re fps games and shiz
Releasing when it did wasnt a surprise to those of us following the games progress, we widely predicted it actually.
I mean at around 6:53 it just sounds like u got outplayed lol if u think theyll blow the floor below you then you need to take that into account and position your team as such
I think my biggest issue with the game rn is that it really feels like you could have a sort of sub class system ex a sword class or knife class for the light where you can get a quick kill and leave with either your cloak or their other ability's, but in practice you often get 1 kill and die, don't get a kill and die or spend so long waiting for a opportunity your pretty much useless and with how getting up close to even another light as a light pretty much gets you obliterated instantly I don't know why they gave the light two melee weapons that even a high skilled player would have trouble getting worth out of. even in a casual lobby you just die. and the other gadgets for the medium are also pretty boring and kind of useless. like why would you use a tracking dart when you could use the sonar nade, why would I want to use the gas nade when the gas mine can be manually activated by shooting it, doesn't move around unpredictably when thrown, and you can have two of them up whilst also being able pick them up if they aren't in a good position, why would you use recon senses ever when mediums other specializations are far better for team fights. why would you not have the defibrillators equipped when and why wouldn't you have at least on movement utility for your team equip. the only class where most of their gadgets both are fun and have some value is the heavy, which as your video has already said is kind of busted atm. (side thing they pretty much already released a recolor for the max tier battlepass skin in the shop which on top of them already using ai voice actors makes their team look sorta lazy)
I think it will have success but will suffer from very singular metas if they don’t diversify the game play regarding terrain and terrain destruction. Heavy should just have hp lowered a bit and remove rpg entirely or tune the damage down/travel speed slowed. Also remove the ability to shoot through shields, that shits boring asf.
fun to watch for 10 minutes but not my jam. Too much vertical game play. It's like a cartoon.
its a great game that is hampered by the "people" in the FPS community
Im loving it personally! I feel like it will become an underrated shooter tho because it doesn't have the generic fps gamemodes everyone knows. But i like how unique and different it is. Its definitely a team orientated game because its quite hard to play solo
I played during the beta and I didn't like it. I played on release and I still don't like it. I'm glad people are enjoying it but it just doesn't work for me.
regarding the obj hold camping strat you mentioned... when we ran into the team like that with friends there is a good counter setup for this.. 1 sonar nade to reveal people bellow the obj and then simply 2 well timed glitch grenades will disable all of the enemies abilities, C4s for 10 seconds straight tahts an easy steal actually teams like that were always easy to counter but obvoiusly you have to run that setup
Does the glitch grenade have to be thrown at c4 owner to prevent him from accessing the gadget or I can throw it on c4 itself ? :)
@@egorsencha2428 From my understanding, it will disable anything it touches. Throw at player, he cant use his abilities and cant activate C4. Throw at C4, it disables the C4 from exploding even if the player is not hit. Both work!
@@Dysanii exactly as said here
I don't really like the gameshow / money theme, but that's subjective. I'm a solo player and not very good, so it will get very hard to have fun with randoms. But I have only played the beta, not played since release. Hopefully I will today.
It s harder than the beta for now.
skill issue
@apexiw
enjoy your inflation
Im not a fan of the game mode so unfortunately i may not play this, i played the beta and yes it looks and plays really good but id like a bf conquest mode or something like that. And also the TTK is super high and i dont like having to drop an entire mag into someone juat to kilm them.
The fact that they have already fixed all the issues you brought up shows how much the devs really listen to its fanbase. That’s a huge breath of fresh air.
This dude complaining about the building destruction was cringe.
I've played it since Beta and now have 37.6 hours on the game since release, playing solo and honestly had the most fun I've had in a long time, this game is amazing.
I got 160 hours in and already bored. I think this game will def die.
literally every single thing in the game has a counter... this game is just absolutely horrendous for solo players unless everyone is talking in game chat
I’m having a ton of fun with this game…. But they gotta adjust the heavy! I agree with everything you say about it
atleast for me the jumping is a no go i played it for 10 minutes and droppt it
I agree with the point that this game will probably not last for long. While the game seems to be innovative in many aspects I think it much to niche for lasting success.
It will not last, the vibe is like hyperscape that's made by Ubisoft.
Lmao L
Unfortunately it's pretty bad for solo players. There's no in game communication, unlike Apex, and even if you get good teammates it's hard to cooperate with so much chaos.
Let alone fight players with pocket healers as a solo with two bad rando teammates. So I don't think it will get as big as it could because of the treatment of solo players. That's a pretty big lost audience pool.
no voice chat ? I play on PS5 with random people and we have voice chat :)
@@PhrooberCZ voice chat isn't the solution. Especially in Europe where every country has a different language. Besides, you shouldn't have to use voice chat just to play a shooter.
@@Godmode_ON24 iam from europe and everyone use english in public matches
Edit: only exception is Poland , Slovakia and my beloved Czech Rep.
@@PhrooberCZ so you don't get the random Russians with horrible accents? At least on PC it's rare for people to have mics in Europe and speak understandable English.
@@Godmode_ON24 just like in other games , but our problem is players from middle east with bad connection
It needs more variety with game modes and team compisition. 5v5 / 12v12 / one-life game modes etc
The heavy cannot one shot Lights and Mediums with the shotgun….
I got hit for 256 damage with 1 shot as a medium yesterday lol
does it not remind anybody of hyperspace or am i the only one ???
Fucking Gasman at the beginning has me crying
Imagine complaint about what makes the game the game and different go stick with cod and buy the same game every year
I don't play or buy COD
The game is a lot of fun, but has way too few maps and the gameplay gets old fast, can't really explain. It's also not friendly to casual players. I wouldn't be surprised if after a few months this game barely has a few thousand or hundreds of very hardcore players still playing it.
I think it’s a great game but the meta will quickly ruin it, especially if heavy’s and destruction are left unchanged
Eh I think Embark will do what is needed to keep the game in shape.
Hopefully this game succeds. I was waiting for this to come out and i am glad people are liking it.
In my humble opinion, I miss in this game different modes, attachments and variety of maps.
Negativity sells
my only complaint is the respawn timer is too long, shorten it to 4.5 seconds so we can get back into the action.
No
The reason for it is so you get punished if you respawnrd after 5 seconds what would be the point of killing
the respawn timet is long because if you kill a team you have time to steal cashout
I played this with a friend yesterday (both fans of 'early DICE'), and we both came to the conclusion, after 5 minutes into a match, to uninstall it, remove it from library, and continue playing actual good games with actual pleasing designs and feeling.
It's a shame with what and who was behind this game, and it turning out below mid, at least to me and my friend.
Damn that's sad for you.. me and my Boys who we grew up playing battlefield 3 Loveddd it . We played 7 hours straight non stop I'm loving ittt
yeah that lgbtq character models, just awful
The BF community has taught me that great destruction is a very strong selling point, which is weird to me. Not saying The Finals is bad, but I feel destruction is a weak selling point for a game when other things are way more important. It feels like destruction is the only reason why this game is getting attention, and that's why I think it won't have longevity.
Destruction in BF creates lots of immersion and can alter the way you play the map slightly. In The Finals it just feels kinda gimmicky and might be very frustrating when it leads to some cheesy plays in a ranked match.
Why is your comment so wrong?
Because destruction isn't the only selling point. It's a cash extraction arena shooter, it has great gunplay and great movement that not a lot of other games have and it has destruction which one combined with everything else makes it completely unique from everything else.
And what BF2042 taught me was that a lack of destruction means the game sucks
@@ThePackman627 Your last comment proved my point about the BF community, lol. And at no point did I say destruction was their only selling point. I said it was their main one. You read what you wanted to read instead of what I actually said.
@@ThePackman627 being an arena shooter with great movement and gunplay doesn’t equate to being completely unique. You really don’t know what your talking about. Also u just misread his comment and concluded something else entirely…
I enjoy the game. Needs more than 2 modes for quick play.
They need to cut the respawn time, other than that the game feels good
The game would be way too clustered with reduced spawn times and no one would ever get a chance to cap the point.
@@ItsKrispyKev i disagree, cutting the respawn means more engagement, aka more fun to players
@@HellonearthlABB don't die and there is plenty of engagement. You don't have to stick by the point. Go hunt players
@@ItsKrispyKev "don't die" 🤓, I'm not a pro, i got those 4/5 deaths per game still bothers me waiting 18 secs to get back in
@@HellonearthlABB it's really not that hard not to die. Just learn when to take the right engagements and don't feel pressured by team mates just to all out brawl.
like i've seen more people say, they need a conquest gamemode with slightly larger teams, my biggest issue with it is that it feels balanced around being a sweatfest which plainly just isnt a fun thing for me, but the feel of the actual movement and gunplay is amazing
100% agree with you
Most fun I had in al long time playing a competitive FPS. I’m getting older and most new shooters just don’t impress me or don’t fit my playstyle. TTK , destruction, easy but deep mechanics and objective driven gameplay is just my jam. With friends this is gold at the moment as long as you don’t take it to serious. Some balance issues yes but has potential.
I've been saying the same exact thing, this game is a breath of fresh air. It feels like it was actually designed to be FUN (what a shocking and innovative approach lol) instead of just aping the same mechanics that have been around for a decade.
i think its _possible_ to patch out denial-of-point play, but idk if they will.
you can do things like increasing the health of the building so it takes more than one explosive, increasing the cooldown for abilities/weapons that deal damage to buildings, make it so that the cashbox slows down for a bit if the team cashing out deals damage to the cashbox, introduce game modes where not everyone one a team can have the ability to break buildings, or some combination thereof.
or they can do something punishing teams who babysit their cashbox by providing more opportunities for teams who range afield.
Ligh character needs some love, have no idea why they thought giving mid class the best shotgun in the game was a good idea. Theres no point of playing light class.
I only play light class and top frag every game. You can't play light like the other two classes. You need to wait until engagements have begun and wait until you have an opportune moment to strike otherwise you just die.
Everyone is talking about longevity and repetitiveness and not holding player counts. However, the worlds most repetitive game, Counter strike, routinely holds 700k+ players. As long as the devs support the game, don’t give in to BS dev tactics, and continue improving; I don’t see why this game couldn’t last. It’s some of the most fun I’ve had in a while.
is it bad I want a CTF mode on this? or king of the hill etc?
anything thats not super small teams with limited respawns that always turn into sweatfests, i want casual fun modes like TDM conquest and CTF
Will you quit being such a hater the games great
lets check back in a few months and see how your comment has aged
He sounds like he just wants another Cod.
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I feel like it's gonna take time to do well and it's gonna take some big updates with game modes and let's be real probably a br. It can totally be a big fps player. If they play their cards right this will stick but in it's current state I agree it's a hard sell long term.
the best recommendation of a gamemode i've seen is a battlefield style conquest mode. get some larger teams and throw that mode in and theres a great game
Not gonna lie, the first impression wasn't so great cause of all the chaos, and so much happening in the game.
After 5 hours in, it became fun (maybe cause it's a new game).
But I just don't think it's gonna be like the new next gen game that'll replace any of the other top tier FPS games.
You see, the game is a mix of bunch of other FPS games such as Battlefield, Overwatch, Valorant, and APEX. (We can see where that's going)
Game companies that try to mix a bunch of other famous games tend to lose track of their own uniqueness.
They focus more on trying to combine all the other game's mechanics into one, and forget about the game's identity. (Question: What identity does THE FINALS have?)
You can see from the main lobby, it has similar yet the same UI as that of APEX, and Valorant.
Not to mention you can hear some of the SFX that has a correlation to Valorant's ult orb SFX.
The Fonts are taken from Overwatch, including the elimination.
The class pool is just terrible, especially Heavy.
Utility (gas, fire) spam is terrible.
Visual recoil has to be gone. There's no way you can remove it from the crosshair settings.
The developers want players to run around freely so it's designed to become a fast paced game, but the game doesn't feel that way as you gradually play the game.
Visual Recoil should be kept in the game since it's probably supposed to be on the casual side anyway. In this case it makes teh gunplay mroe fun.
Your destruction complaints are literally the point of the game. Oh you want to deny access just blow the floor out from under. I notice a lot of people aren’t playing this game very vertically. The best teams are, most aren’t in my experience. Also Bank It is the superior game mode.
I had a lot of fun with the finals and I hope its going to stay. But I think its gonna be like apex where its just way more fun to play with friends.
People have been complaining about heavy since the betas. I wouldn’t expect the class to change to much tbh they seem to be pretty happy where it’s at but who knows, I wouldn’t count on it though.
Bank it is a much more competitive mode than quick cash, you should try it.
Gas is strong and fire is better BUT the fire extinguishers on the map actually put it out.
The Finals is a lot of fun but once the glamour of something new runs out we shall see where it lands.
It’s a fun sandbox game. You analyze everything too much. it’s less about getting kills but using your brain to get objectives. They are supposed to destroy the building to drop the cashouts it’s the point of destruction in he game 🤣
I like the game but it's too competitive. You can tell it was designed to be as competitive as possible. I don't see casual players staying on this game for long. Especially once people figure out the meta and certain tricks on how to play the objective. Im sure this game will keep a certain audience entertained like rainbow six does and overwatch, but mainly cuz it is free to play.
it won't
I think this game is great. Gas has too much aoe tho. Ppl need to know the counters before judging as well. Remember, fire takes out gas, smoke takes out fire. Also consider a trophy system. Also know that glitch grenades disable EVERYTHING. Got a heavy with a shield and dome shield? Glitch grenade them and wipe them off the planet. There’s more to the game than we realize. I think more game modes would make it grow. Add Odd ball from halo. Imagine zipping through the air passing the ball. Add TDM for the cod fanboys. Maybe even add ultimate destruction? (Heavy only with sledgehammers) I think we def need more maps and those moving objectives need to be deleted from that game. Also PLEASE LET ME ACCEPT REVIVE FROM DEFIBRILLATOR. HOW MANY NORE TIMES WILL I BE REVIVED INTO 2 teams SHOOTING ME AGAIN. Legit could be on 5 sec till respond then get brought back to die again and wait longer
the thing is..
I also enjoy this game very much, I think gun play is fun hopefully they'll add more variety down the line like guns and abilities. Casual gaming on this game is non existent! if your lucky you'll find a good team and win but that's if your lucky because 60 maybe 70% of games you play no one actually plays the objective and or run off.
changes I would love to see.
ALL CHARECTERS IN EVERY GAME SHOULD HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF HEALTH OR ITS UNBALANCED!! implement armour into the game and make lights wear 50% medium 100% and heavy's 150%. health in general should be the same. armor should be an option to be found mid game. so everyone starts out at 100% health and armour if you get it should be a bonus. 3 amour pickups at one time so it can balance out in the squads or 1 squad could have all 3.
players don't bank either ive seen players try battle out and not run away with 10,000 on them and lose it all its annoying as hell.
solo gamemodes for solo players like tdm or deathmatch of some sort.
The game just needs some depth, some sort of perk system, wether that be spending earned cash to reload faster or have short cool downs, or like "builds" that you set up before the game starts. Paladins is a perfect example of what I'm talking about
I don't think it's going to break any crazy boundaries. But I do think it is here to stay. I don't see it getting old very fast, the gameplay loop for me is enough to feel satisfied and play every day probably.
Edit: you brought up some good points, I also worry about the outcome of what a Meta will do to the game. But I'm still having a great time for now
#fuckvisualrecoil
This game looks like a combination of: COD (guns and maps), Apex (a moving mechanism, some gadgets), Fortnite (some game mechanics and graphics, gadgets), and maybe even Battlefield (in-game missions/targets). I can't talk much about the gun mechanics, but it seems like it is trying to do something similar to what COD does - making it hard for PC players. It might be enjoyable at a local area network à ka LAN parties!
It reminds me a lot of Dirty Bomb. Cool premise, beautiful visuals, but CLUNKY ASF combat, way too long ttk, and too many 75% complete ideas mashed together to be an ALMOST awesome experience. It's just been frustrating for me to be following it for so long but when I get into game... its just mediocre bc it's not all there.
i was attracted by the stylish cover for this game, this game feels like call of duty mixed with overwatch. Is this game balanced, do character has game change abilities like ow?
FINALLY I found the Twitter account’s RUclips lmao
Nah the exploding cashout example sounds sick. I'm not trying hard, I'm just trying to have fun.
It will last if it gets steady content. It’s super fun but as of day one there isn’t much content
I love everything but the entire cash out system. I know ppl want fresh but it wouldn’t kill them to also include standard modes like a TDM, or KOTH etc. I don’t love getting 3rd and 4th partied.
It’s a team based objective game. Don’t hate on it for people for playing the objective 😂
It’s not about getting 30 kills. You can be a mvp for your team even with 2 kills
This game is literal copy of Overwatch, CoD and Battlefield 2042. Will it succeed? Who the hell knows.
Solo is awful cuz its RNG either you get a team of CDL sweats or 10 yr old fortnite players or a mix of both its a mix of frustrating and exhilarating scenarios..... the best enjoyment out of this game is playing with your friends and coordinating
also some will probably find the grind for unlocking guns.skills and gadgets for each class annoying
and a heavy with a shotgun, shield skill and dome grenade is fcking OP the heavy can shoot from inside but you can't you have to get inside the shield to dmg him but he's a fcking heavy with the most HP in the game and fcking 4burst shotgun that has 16 ammo that can cycle relatively quick so its a death sentence trying to kill him close range
very strange things tryed the game probably the worst in terms of feel how clunky both aim and movement feels i dont get it how this peace of garbage gets so much hype is it due to the sponsored streamers spread hype and never play this game untill they get sponsored agein ? plz this is not the game to spend your time or master just play any old titles and be happy ! as for Enders bro are u starting to notice that every game that have cross play is very clunky and full of wierd input lag yet ? please make a video do PC gamers Need cross play for games to survive or do we just need good game ?