THE AEROPRESS - No Press Brew Method
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- Опубликовано: 18 мар 2021
- After years working in coffee I'm ashamed to admit that my barista brain had never thought of doing this until I did it by accident. The Aeropress actually makes a pretty solid pour over dripper, and in this video I'll not only tell you, but I'll show you why.
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The Aeropress is like that one friend who is good everything so you hate them and love them simultaneously
Haha, well everything but espresso...
@@Sprometheus haha! Too real Spro! ....but but but my uncles neighbors former roommate says that is can!!!
Imagine, after all this time. This is James Hoffman’s ‘Ultimate Aeropress’ video 😂
‘Great. My Ultimate Aeropress can be more thoroughly researched for another time.’
OMG I WAS THINKING THE SAME!
I imagine James seeing this video just before he was about to upload his, then sighing and deleting it 😂
@@MisterDibitybopty 😂😂 “Well.. that’s that ruined”
There goes my ultimate aeropress video..
I've added a mesh between the cap and paper. I find it helps with increased flow as the paper is lifted off the flat areas of the cap.
Man I'm so happy this is gaining a lot attraction. I've been brewing this way for a year now without ever researching anything about it, I thought I was just lazy lol
Me too because it's pretty much fire and forget
It's the aer-over! I will try this for sure
For sure! Let me know your thoughts after you give it a go.
@@Sprometheus not op but: I forgot I had 2 filters in use my aerodrip needed over 12 minutes. I didn't mind since I was eating lunch anyway.
The coffee was delicious. It was the best cup I made of one of the first batches I roasted myself. Thanks a lot!
I tried this for my morning coffee today and I'm pleasantly surprised. It was easy to brew, easy to clean, and, most importantly, made a great cup. Thanks for posting.
It would have been interesting to see a side by side with a V60 and a standard aeropress, in terms of extraction and relative grind size
This is a game changer for me. The aero press pour over makes a super clean coffee. I was surprised and really delighted by the results. Thanks for the video.
I've been doing this for a while to make the "japanese iced coffee" a lot. I don't have a pour over so decided to try the aeropress and it works wonders. I grind quite a bit finer (think hoffman v60) and use 65ml/100l ratio; and in the water use 30% ice: 70% hot water. I normally make half a liter (so 33g(coffee)/350(water)+150(ice)) and 100g bloom, swirl then pulse 50grams water every 30 seconds, swirl again for even bed and allow drawdown. The brew takes around 7-9 minutes total and IS FANTASTIC!
I could definitely see using this method as kind of a makeshift slow drip would make a solid cup of flash brew.
@@Sprometheus I wonder if I could just take your advice from this video, not pulse the water IN and maybe brew faster and not notice a difference
This is brilliant. I'm really excited to give this a try. Thanks buddy!
Great Video!! I’m definitely going to try it soon. Some time ago, I saw a video in which somoene simply but a V60 filterpaper into a bottomless portafilter without having the normal basket inserted. He then used it like a pour over. I never tried it but think of it as an interesting idea.
So good to see you! Cheers!
I have been reluctant to buy an AeroPress because I thought it was too 'plasticky' for my taste.
James Hoffmann's AeroPress mini-series made me reconsider and buy one after all.
After trying out a couple of different things (James' recipe, messing with grind size a little bit, trying inverted, nothing too crazy) I tried this.
This could become my new favourite non-espresso brewing method.
Easier to use and to get good extraction out of than other pour-over methods, a lot less paper waste and wonderful clarity in the cup.
Will try to finetune my recipe to get just a bit more body and balance, but I really like this method!
Great video! Update: Hoffman has debunked rinsing paper filters for Aeropress!
Interesting 🤓 i love aeropress but am always struggling with the small amount of coffee it can make each time. What works for me is around 30g coarse coffee, 3 min of dripping without the plunger while constantly topping off the water. Then at 3min i press. Gives me two cups for a long drive or to share with someone else.
Tomorrow morning, around 10am, this method will be under examination in Perthshire, Scotland, undertaken by yours truly, with some light roast Colombian beans I received in the post this very day. Now THAT'S timing...you sir, are a jeenyuss...Ithangu... 👏👏👏
Finally! A use for my worn-out Aeropress. [The insides of the cylinders crazed, making it impossible to form a piston seal.] I'm definitely trying this tomorrow morning.
Super cool first spin for me on the Aero without the press ☕️😊 great tips, superbly done
ps: looking forward to your review on the new Espro Bloom Pour Over Brewer.
Just had a go. I liked the simplicity of this method. I was able to potter about and come back to it once done. Not sure how the taste compares as I haven’t used my Aeropress for so long. But I don’t mind it...
Ha - love the sort-of-subtle flex with the La Marzocco logo and steam knob!
Def gonna try this. Cool idea!
I often wondered if this was a rational brewing approach..... I will try this - Thanks!
That’s the beauty of coffee. It’s all irrational until you try it, haha.
Tried it for the first time today. Got a very light bodied and layered cup (11gr/200ml). Extremely interesting how it simplifies the overall pour-over process and how the extended brewing time gives you a drinking-ready temperature.
I enjoy this method of brewing coffee with the Aeropress, it always gave me good results and I find the brew to be similar in taste to what I get with a Vietnamese phin.
it was sweet man, a flavor i have missed for a long time my man. thanks for the recipe btw
I’ll definitely be trying this one over the weekend! I’m super interested in how the shape will effect the brew.
I think this could be a potentially easier introduction for beginners getting into pour over.
I think you’re right. It’s just so simple. Would love to hear your thoughts on it after you give it a try.
Nice! When looking at simple and tasty pour-over methods you should also really look into the Walküre Bayreuther/ Karlsbader/ Tassenfilter (all the same principle). This one has really blown me away!
Great video thanks
Michael fabian covered a prismo aeropress brewing method that imitates a clover. Amazing how aeropress has managed to imitate almost all the manual brewing methods now.
As a beginner in coffee I found this method really interesting since it removes almost all acidity. It's as if this method is like a neutral speaker, sounding the music with neutral equalization... while a V60 is more like one of those bass-heavy headphones that can really exaggerate the bass (say the acidity in this analogy). In other words, I guess this method provides a more neutral extraction while other methods allow to amplify or mute certain things from the beans.
I'll try it ASAP, it's great that you can get so many uses out of of a giant plastic syringe
That’s a fact! Let me know how it turns out
A little trick you can do: use the inverted method to allow steeping, and then once inverted, you can either press any excess coffee (cant do that with a pour over) and for clean up, just press out the puck.
Nice idea !
Thanks for watching!
Love that this is basically just the new hotness tricolate except you didn't put a melodrip over the top or anything
Having finally gotten a grip on how to brew well with the Tricolate, I'm really thankful for your "swirl at the end" idea. I think the last bit of water normally overextracts, so I'll have to borrow that tactic.
Right on! Happy to help, what are your thoughts on the Tricolate?
@@Sprometheus it's been a little bit of a whirlwind. It's the first brewer that I've had to be very particular with, regarding technique. Between that and little available guidance, it took about a month to figure out while trying their fine-grind recipes. But I've only brewed with any seriousness for a year or so.
I've gotten some great brews out of it, with pretty expected flavors. Depending on the starting water temperature, the same bean's acidity changed from lemon to grapefruit, for example.
The filters are expensive, and getting a good seal with them is an annoying process, but they never clog, allowing for very fine grinds to be used. So there may be some justification to paying for them.
And, most importantly, it seems to accentuate nearly everything I do, good or bad. That includes grind distribution, bloom technique (with or without the showerhead, how aggressively I swirl while blooming, etc.). But, when it's done right, I've been delicious cups with quite strong acidity.
Personally, I'm glad I bought it, despite how involved I need to be in the process and, yes, the cost. They've clearly designed something that'll impact the industry.
I will have to try this with the metal filter to see how it comes out with no paper secondary filter.
Been using Aeropress for 6 year's now and had never done this, now that I have I don't think I will go back unless I am pressed for time. That is one of the better brews I have had using Aeropress.
I only brew enough filter for myself, 1 cup, and I find the V60 a bit unsuitable for this small amount so I'm going to try your aeropress method today to see if it makes much of a difference. Isn't experimenting part of the joy of coffee? I think so! EDIT: OK, I tried it using a Columbian Geisha I like but I think I prefer the V60. It tasted a bit muted, lacking the same clarity as the V60. Not bad but not the best. This will be something I will consider next time I travel. I can travel lighter with my V60 now and just my aeropress.
Hey Spro, thanks for sharing your knowledge ! Are you going to release more roasting video soon ? (behmor,etc..)
I always wondered about this, but was too lazy to actually try it
Trying this now!
Nice. I tried this before and didn't really think anything of it. Maybe I need to try again. If you haven't tried the Aesir filters, you need to try those. They are a game changer!
Don't two Aeropress filters together do the same job as a single Aesir filter? Theoretically thinking. I've heard about Aesir filters but never bought them.
I'll have to try with the Hario papers. The final draw down from the 1 mark was sooooooooo long that I gave up and plunged the last bits. Seriously, it just...stopped going through! There's a slight bitter after taste from the probably over extracted last bits. Going to try with different filter paper. Or grind coarser. Thanks for introducing new methods!
Update: cut out of Hario filter papers makes a huge difference in the drawdown! Now to grind finer as it tasted a bit under extracted!
Just tried this - as someone that's never had a pour over it tastes great!
crazy that an aeropress can do it all
So is the coffee better if unpressed? Besides cooler coffee, what do you get for the extra 5 minutes?
What temperature did you use on this method? Thanks for the video, it's a genius method. Looking forward to try it out!
He answered in another reply: "pretty much off boil".
I think one of the interesting things about the Aero is how far it's penetrated into normie/non-coffee enthusiast circles, which means lots of variation in brew methods. I definitely know a couple of people who do essentially this method, then add the plunger and press once the all the water has drained. I guess they think they're squeezing the last extra bit of coffee out of the bed. They're just doing this because they think that's how you're supposed to make an Aeropress
That's my mum. I think she likes the drip method because she's always so busy and doesn't have the time or patience to baby her coffee.
I once made a pot of cold brew coffee seeped in an Ikea Blueberry Juice/water mixture, and filtered it thru a Chemex. Not gonna lie, taste pretty darn fine over ice.
Yeah, been wondering about this. Pour over via aeropress.
2:41 ...
Alan Adler: "And I took that personally."
I don’t think so, the official Aeropress Instagram just shared this recipe the other day.
I tried this three times today with three different grind size (ground with Timemore C2) with varying results. Using medium coarse, 23 clicks on C2 (probably eq 29 clicks on Commandante C40) it brewed fast and finished under a minute. The result was a clear but hollow cup of joe.
The second brew ground with 18 clicks (medium) and it was surprisingly good. It brewed around two minutes.
The last brew ground with 15 clicks (medium fine) and brewed the slowest, around 4 minutes, and the result was quite bitter.
By the way, the coffee I selected for the experiment was the cheapest I had, dark-roasted arabica from Papua. Next time I probably try the lighter roast.
Thanks for the idea, I had thought for trying that before, but only dare after watching your video.
Btw, what's the water temperature if you don't mind sharing it? I'm curious.
I am trying on C3 - 16 clicks and still pretty slow even through a steel mesh filter
Tried on 18 - was around 6 minutes but not very nice. I think I liked finer grinds more even though it only managed to go through half the water in sub 8 min interval
@@fokcuk I think due to the smaller diameter, reaching uniform particle distribution is harder for non-pressed Aeropress. Better use tricolate for such purpose
Could you share the grind setting used on the Niche for this?
Re. Stalling at the end: did you consider “top and tailing” the brew? (as per your previous video)
Hi what's your opinion about eureka mignon specialita can I grind and for brewing with acceptable quality?
Okay, Spro! NOW: I need to buy an Aeropress. This tutorial convinced me.
It’s a super versatile brewer, always good to have on hand.
I'm not sure what other coffee gear you might already have, but Aeropress is worth it! So many recipes to try.
If I had a 3D-printer I'd create a cap for the aeropress that allows you to open and close it. Just wondering if blooming would be better before the drip beings.
Thanks for the video. waht temperature was the water?
I almost always brew straight off of boil since I use medium to light roasted coffees.
With the super long brew times this method feels a lot like the traditional south Indian coffee filter, but with the addition of a paper filter in there
Someone should let Cafec know there's a market for Aeropress sized abaca filters.
When I pour the water I get a big crusty layer form, how do I avoid this?
I'm getting some foam that's suspending a lot of grinds. When I'm not careful stirring, they just stick to the side.
Doing a 30-45 second bloom may help with that. The foam is from the gassing of the beans.
I have had good luck using 2 paper filers. Slows down the extraction drip and makes a smoother taste with more body.
How coarse do you grind that you find that you need 2 filters? I find that even a steel mesh filter creates too much restriction for it to finish under 8 mins
Just in time as I’m currently traveling with my aeropress go in my bag
how about the water temperature for this method?
Is this like the pour over from a Clever instead of the popular immersion from a Clever?
With a metal filter it is basically a phin
I had the same thought!
I should get a metal filter for the aeropress and pull out my phin and compare them.....
I hadn’t even thought of that until you mentioned it. But yeah, I can see that. Not sure if it’s as intense flavor wise though.
@@Sprometheus I think the intensity comes from finer grounds and darker roast, but the technique is basically the same
What water temperature are you using?
This is the type of video that makes me wish I used my aeropress more lolol
When I did this, the coffee naturally drained until about half way at which point it stopped flowing through the coffee bed completely.
The coffee which initially came out was fantastic but to get the rest through I used the plunger. Result wasn’t bad but not great either. Anyone have any advice?
the only problem i have with this method is the cleaning lol it was a mess inside the brew chamber unlike proper v60 which could just easily throw the filter paper away once finished.
I discovered your channel few weeks ago, and i really enjoy listening you thoughts about différents topics, i live in Thailand, there is pretty good speciality coffee shops around here and i realized that firstly pour overs are very common on those coffee shops, and above that cold v60 are very appreciate especially thinking that the hot season never ends ahah
I would love to hear your thoughts and see your methods for a cold drip coffee, do you use conical or flat dripper, What is the ration you use, Also the water/ice ratio, The grinde size, which kind of coffee avoid and how is your pouring method. I’m having hard time to dial in a good none bitter but not less flavorful cup, it seems that if i want lot of aroma my coffee needs to end up with a bit of bitterness..
Genius! I’m definitely giving this a try.
What you do is infusion, not percolation. Try to use the aeropress for real percolation with bloom and very gentle pouring (with melodrip or something like that). You can go up to 1:20 ratio and get fantastic results.
How about pour over on aeropress with kalia wave filter ?
It works well. You will have to enter it into the aeropress championship :)
Just gave my aeropress to a friend, didn't use it often... Now I need i guess to buy me a new one... Thanks @sprometheus 🤪🙄😁😅
This might be interesting to try with metal filters as well, unfortunately I only have the prismo and I don't think that will fit with the normal attachment
Try a cloth filter! (The big challenge is getting the fit right. I’ve been happy with cloth-plus-Fellow-Prizmo, but that wouldn’t work for this method.)
@@sdorn I always use the prismo with a paper filter, never tried cloth though. I will definitely give it a go!
Just tried this with my metal filter and with the same grind setting I use for a v60. Took too long to flow and clogged. Will try grinding courser and see if I can dial this in. The idea of being able to travel with an aeropress and make a good pourover is worth fighting for!
@@eugeneware3296 Having the option of drip and aeropress on the go would be awesome!I was hoping that a metal filter wouldn't get clogged that easily but I guess we have to find another solution.. I tried with a normal paper filter and my normal v60 grind and it took more than 9 minutes.
So the only different features to this method the tricolate brewer offers are a wider brewing cylinder and a melo drip on top of it as I see. Would you say they’d make any significant difference in brewing?
So I can’t say having not used the Tricolate. But the price tag was a big turn off to me. I felt like I could produce something similar with what I had on hand.
I do have a Melodrip, and considered using it for this video but felt like it made it less broadly appealing and useable. But I think using it could make a difference and would allow for some possible extra control and extraction.
Thanks for the reply. Yes I do agree that it is a bit overpriced considering what it offers could easily be replicated by the already popular aeropress. I’m still not sure if the direction of a higher extraction would be for me as of now still deciding to get one.
@@setemic my thoughts on extraction are a little bit mixed. Of course I like chasing the dragon, but I feel like weighing the cost benefit with some tools don’t hit me right. That said, I’ll eventually get a Tricolate because I have the backing of the folks on my Patreon so it doesn’t come out of pocket. I don’t want to say too much on either side between this method and the Tricolate and end up eating my words. Haha.
Whatever happens to be your conclusion, I’m waiting for that video already! It was just a ranty question from a random guy sitting on a fence whether to buy another brewer or not. I should rather experiment with what I have now first.
Anyways, thanks for your videos, I really enjoy them a lot.
How I do my aeropress, if anyone ever care to try:
- Two blank lungos and a blank espresso on a nespresso machine (as it's my only source of hot water in my job - about 260ml of water) and a full hopper of a JX worth of beans ground on the finer side of pour-over.
- Pour some water and stir to get all the grounds wet and make a coffee slurry.
- Add water 'till it's almost spilling and let some of it draw down as it won't all fit in an Aeropress Go.
- Keep adding the remaining water untill it's all in and you have enough room (3mm or so) to add the plunger.
- Add the plunger and let it steep for 3-4min.
- Press.
- Stir the resulting liquid.
- Enjoy.
It's worked for me. (Much!) better than the Nespresso option, and more plentiful. Plus it gives me just enough of a "coffee street cred" in the office that I'm the one people ask for coffee-related advice.
Any recommendation on what grind setting to try with a Baratza Virtuoso?
Update: tried on the #14 grind size. Definitely too fine and the brew took about 8.5 minutes, but I’m still enjoying it 😃
That looks like tea
Nice 👍👍👍
Ok, now I have to get myself an Aeropress.
This kinda reminds me of how the creator of the Aeropress recommends a soft, slow press. Does pressing harder increase extraction?
I haven’t looked much into how the press affects extraction. That could make an interesting video.
I've pressed hard for a while now back to pressing soft. I've noticed hard presses agitate the very fine fines and create bitterness. I think it's better to either grind finer or steep longer. Also pouring water abruptly I find also creates bitterness.
@@Sprometheus if you do make that video I'd recommend doing one hard press normal and then a hard press with coffee that has had the very fine fines sifted with the kruve sifter. I'm willing to bet that'd be the winner. 🥇🥇
Try the Aesir filter which is made from a different pulp and already cut for aeropress.
I’ve been meaning to pick them up for awhile.
I love aesir filters
The Real Sprometheus I'm sure you PROBABLY tried it but what about using 2 aeropress filters at once just like you did in the video ? And if you already did what is tasted like?tnx
tomorrow a no press aeropress osmotic flow will be made for sure! thank you for the idea i just don't like aeropresse coffee, so that method will dust off my press.
I am looking for a method to brew two cups at once with the aeropress, so when I visit my family I am not stuck making one cup at a time.
In other words, the James Hoffmann method for press-less French Press brewing applied to the Aeropress.
coffee drinkers go to the gym and bench without the press
thank you for tolerating this awful pun
Tried the Aeropress many different ways
As Borat would say 'NOT SO MUCH!' 😃☕
Sticking to my French press
i love coffee
Sucks for me I lost the brewing chamber and only have the piston left
Me, before I've made my afternoon coffee: hmmm, interesting
If this works, it will be great! There are some mornings I don't have time to babysit my Chemex between every pour.
Aero-pour?
I'm in!
Let me know how it comes out!
You should used Aeropress plunger as a kettle for pouring ;) All Aeropress's pieces becomes drippers :D Funnel is called AeroWave dripper, now Chamber... let's call it AeroNoPress.
I heard about this years ago but never tried it cause I didn’t see the point. This video got me interested so I gave it a go. The result was fine, but no better than anything else and I still don’t see the point. Unless of course you only have an Aeropress and your plunger stopper seal is broken.
We need the no-brewer method. Good ol cowboy coffee
You could check Mateusz Gaca's video on 5 ways to do Aeropress. It's in Polish. But you can get what it shows.
Maybe you could call it the 'aerover' instead of aeropress?
aeropress without press
aero
I'm intrigued if anyone has tried the method of dividing the brew into 5 blocks, like you would for a V60. I can't help thinking this is the true way to get coffee for two out of an aeropress. 30g coffee, 5x 100g water.