Prodigy has a lot of murals throughout NYC and even more around the world. The cats that defaced the QB mural are nobody's. Their scope is short sighted. P was bigger than a housing project and even NYC. You could tell that whoever defaced the mural is weak. They struck when no one was around to stop them.
Tone Riggz, so glad that you shared with us that OTHER Prodigy murals have gone up and stay up. That made my day! I can’t speak much to those who either did or supported the mural defacing. Just that there was not a lot of thought and massive amounts of anger. It will set you up; cast you down into a negative existence every time, if your not careful. Even Prodigy spoke wisdom on that. Some ears should be more open to that message. True-“two wrongs don’t make a right”
If im not mistaken i read some article about biggie wanting 2pac to be his manager 2pac said no and biggie would make him a star and then give him some advice about writing a song and it was about women write a song about women because women loves to be serenade. I think thats why big poppa came.
Biggie said he was influenced by King T. He used to bump The Chronic and Doggystyle as well. You can definitely hear influence on Ready to Die from the hooks and samples. Mobb Deep definitely kept it gully and NY. From the sound, style, and lingo...DUNN.
HipHopR&BLover Jon the song juicy is not a cali beat. It has nothing to do with a west coast sound. The song juicy cones from 80's new york r&b group mtumes - juicy fruit song
HipHopR&BLover Jon Big was influenced more by Kane, Kool G Rap and Rakim. Chubb Rock as well. Obviously Dre and some west coast as well. We all bumped the Chronic and Doggystyle but Big, Dre/Snoop and King T are all completely different artists with completely different sounds.
el trio Nobody said that was a Cali beat because the group was from NY but the West Coast Rap scene was heavily sampling R&B and Funk like that. Along with mixing it with whines, synths, and harmony. They called it ''G-Funk''.
People are misunderstanding what he means. The West Coast sound is not just G-funk. The West Coast sound was known for using old school funk and soul samples with heavy basslines. Whereas the East Coast sound relied heavily on jazz samples and breakbeats.
Ready to die was a westcoast album beat wise, people have been saying this since it dropped. No east coast album sounded like that back then. Jamar was 120% correct.
shamicheal lewis You're correct. The boom bap sound was played out and the West sound was light years ahead of anything the East was doing at that time. They needed to bite what the West was doing to gain a foothold in the market. Even the content changed. Dudes were hating on the west coast content being nothing but ignorance until a east coast rapper did it, then it was ground breaking.
No east coast album sounded like that back then. I guess u never heard a lot of cuts off the Masta Ace & I.N.C album. He had a lot of what is considered of west coast sound on that album. Especially his hit record off that album Born to Roll. But even Born to Roll beat was a sample from Original Concept - Knowledge Me (1986).
young city Chornic was a hot album but BIG didn't need that sound to be a success,Puff forced that on him while BIG had songs like Party and BS,warning,everyday struggle,unbelievable and can I live to my last day,which NYC niggas loved more so niggas really need to know the facts
biggie's SINGLES had that smooth west coast sound but the rest of the album was very much NYC street sounding songs. so i partially agree with lord jamar. whereas mobb deep kept it nyc street.
B.I.G. flow was HEAVILY reminiscent of King Tee and the way that Ready to Die album was crafted was very much west coast gangsta rap/g-funk inspired. Everybody like to make it like B.I.G. saved NY but only from a commercial standpoint. Mobb Deep, Nas and Wu-Tang did more in that department then B.I.G. to be honest. Nothing to do with skill which of course he had but people felt like they could start shitting on the west again BECAUSE Biggie dropped with an OBVIOUS west coast influence.
dawb86 💯 exactly! I think because of Puff he was biting that whole Chronic/Death Row sound and also having some ny type beats but West Coast was so popping back then that they chose to go the commercial route with the sound. Unlike bad boy, Nas, Mobb Deep and several others had a 100% NY sound early on. Many rappers from NY low keyed hated on Big for not truly sounding authentic but anyway, people tend to re write history
You can't just say biggie didn't do shit for ny, even though he used west coast influenced beats, he was ny and still to this day the greatest rapper of all time..
"Now it's all about Versace, you copied my style"...literally speaking on his fashion wear. And And the whole life after death talk, Pac was the only one spitting on that topic..u can hear it in biggy flow
@@thefuture5469 I think from hearing pac and biggie talk about it ,it was more like biggie was influenced by pac but was also been persuaded by his record label to be a bit more than just spitting dope lyrics
The entire Ready to Die album used The Chronic and others as a blueprint. A lot of the beats, skits, etc., straight jacked from a West Coast formula. First time I heard it I said this shit sound like King Tee or something.
did anyone else notice how excited and enthusiastic vlad sounded at the very beginning of the video when he asked - (did you hear about prodigy of mobb deep passing ?!!) dial it back a little kid. .,act accordingly. ..
Mac Dre mural is respected, the jacks mural is respected, king Dream mural is respected... memorial murals need to be respected. When I go out to NY I'm going to have to check out the big L mural
Prodigy is in my top 5 and he is a hero of mine . They desecrated his painting because of the book, the beefs, and he prolly slept with of people's girlfriends or crushes .
Who the fuck would deface a Prodigy mural in Queens???? Whoever did it should step up and admit it. Don't disrespect him after he's dead and then not even take credit.
Real spit what he said about Biggie hits sounded like west coast shit...like PAC said... Biggie was following PACs moves ... Make music for the females... PAC double CD and biggie double CD.. Ijs 😎
I was thinking recently all bigs hit singles were really samples. One more chance big poppa juicy. I guess that's diddys idea. But his album is way more gritty boom bap type shit like unbelievable. I never made the connection to the west coast sound tho
Ready to die had a little bit of everything the album was diverse asf in terms of sound it had G Funk, Reggae and alot of NY classical boom bap influences hell Suicidal thoughts is literally a Dark NY type rap song also the shit Cali was sampling was literally NY and midwest songs so nah Biggie didnt sound like Cali, Cali sounded like NY
Robert Williams nah fam, not even. I got Nas, Big pun, hov, Mobb deep, CNN Etc. as rap gods. I can't really listen to an entire em album like that foreal, his bars elite, but his music eh, but idk if you was gettin at me or just asking a question , but 🤷🏾♂️.
Make The Lakers great again It's hot with beautiful women and great weed so what nigga wouldn't like that,but when we said La was wack we were talking about the Mcs and that lifestyle y'all live out there and the fact it could never compare to NYC..
Sincere Marks but Ny took that lifestyle that La originated lol, bloods and crips came from La and now y'all got bloods and crips in NY kuz y'all love this lifestyle
Make The Lakers great again I'm from Queens and have a house in LA, LA is not wack it's the people that are wack. For the most part LA people are show offs and fake. In NY people are much more real and upfront. That's why NYC is the capital of the world.
Only 1 of Biggie`s songs had a west coast sound and that was "Big Poppa". That song "Warning" had a very authentic east coast sound and he drop that as a single in addition to it being on his first album. What he should have said was that most of the singles Biggie dropped was commercialized.
Jamar kinda right. Juicy, One More Chance, Big Poppa, B-Side w/Da Brat, Goin Back to Cali, all had a soultry funk/oldies sound and at the time the West was the only ones doin that. East coast was on some boom bap & New Jack swing type sound. Put it like this, if Biggie hadnt used those samples, somebody from the West woulda probably jumped on them eventually. But at the same time, it still had a NY feel. Biggie - King of East Coast G-Funk.
One More Chance, Juicy, Hypnotized, Mo Money Mo Problems are not west coast sounding songs. They are commercial friendly radio songs with a NY twist. "Still tote gats strapped with infrared beams." Dudes like Cube, Snoop etc aren't gonna use wordplay like that on over a Isley brothers sample for the radio. On those songs it wasn't any west coast slang and no one from out west used those samples. What's next? He's gonna say Warning, Last Days and Kick In The Door the album cuts were west coast sounding too? Big and Nas are the ones who truly re-energized NY at the time. Mobb added on and did their thing as well but Big and Nas get the credit first. Jamar is bugging and he loses cool points on this one.
Bret Maverick every song you just named were like b side songs G. They weren't HITS man. I used to fast forward dem shits anyway... something wrong with a man saying he'll suck another man off. I don't give a fucc how clever you think the wordplay is.
As an L.A dude those songs have no g funk or L.A. sound whatsoever. I love b.i.g more than pac as i rock a biggie shirt in the middle of L.A. the major biggie songs were pop songs sad to say. Puffy wanted commercial hits. Tell me warning sounds like juicy or snoops whats my name or let me ride by dre
Finally someone speaks facts..ready to die sound like Dre produced it every song has west coast flavor with snoop n Dre in background..R.I.P. big my west coast brother lol we got Pac and big this Westside
2Pac's first rap name was MC New York LMAO come on. On top of that, Pac didn't have a West Coast sound til Death Row. He used the same producers Biggie used when he was recording Me Against the World
Can y'all stop. Mobb 1st album and biggie first came around the same time. Ready to die was later and it was more commercial not LA gfunk sounding. Puff went for a broader commercial sound they were in no way trying to sound like LA except for the song " going back to cali"
I would agree that "Juicy" & "Big Poppa" were West Coast. Not the album cuts. They were Tri-State area to the core. You don't hear one Bay-buh, Bay-Bay in "Unbelievable"
To make a long story short, The Chronic and Doggstyle set the Blueprint for most hardcore/gangster rap albums that came after them from Ready to Die to Life After Death to All Eyes On Me to Get Rich or Die Trying. Biggie was just an East Coast version of Snoop and NO Ready to Die was not as good as Doggystyle.
George clinton and the Parliament funkadelics are from new Jersey not the west coast!!! Californias g funk sound is originally from the east coast. Roger troutman and the group Zapp are from OHIO. The funk sound is an east coast sound! !!!
peace; I always thought Biggie was into LL Cool J as well but westcoast I never thought he had that type sound. LL did that Going Back to Cali and I believe Biggie lile that song and made a Cali joint
I feel Lord J. on that, but what about Wu-Tang? They came out in '93 and blew up in '94. RZA had a lot of biters. Havoc's dark production sound was greatly influenced by Wu-Tang and Black Moon.
They was tough but mobb deep was rough and rugged with it , & its not to take away from wu tang clan cause they are great but mobb deep the way they was coming was something differnet.
The song juicy by biggie sampled the song "juicy fruit" that was sung by new york city r&b group by the name of mtumes back in the 80's. The g funk sound is not a california sound it is an OHIO sound. Roger troutman is from ohio not California. DR DRE and them west coast producers were doing an Ohio sound. Ohio is on the east coast!!!!
Marak Lia if you look on a map ohio is on the east coast. It is not on the west or mid west. Another thing new york rappers were the first ones to use the funk sound in rap. Look up. ( EPMD -you got to chill) that record came out in 1987. That was before dr dre, snoop dogg or any west coast rapper used that sound I'm their production. Also look up( stezo- it's my turn) that's also a funk sound and that song came out in 1988. California producers saw this and started copying it.
el trio ohio is not on the east coast all all states on the east touch the atlantic ocean. ohio does not. its near one of the great lakes its still inland quite a ways from the ocean.
Pac gave him a.new style to run with and he did, he wanted pac to be his manager btw, puffy is really the one who got in the way and same with sugar vice versa
His mural in QB was fucked up because the street dudes out there felt he said to much in his personal authorized book he made when he was still alive so it wasn’t random and def was some street shit involved
Ready to die didn't have any west coast feel to it at all smh His second album did because it got watered down and was commercialized. Still had some classics on it tho.
Not Biggie First hits Juciy was west coast ? Notorious B.I.G whole album was hits before that the one with super cat ,Warning like what are you talking about I didn't even get to the Going back to cali yet you got The Funk you got Oh biggie give me one more chance like it's tons of newyork hits
Because they was using the Dre formula with the samples look at Illmatic was traditional New York Hip Hop beats what Nas didn't different was he used the best producers
all these salty as New Yorkers/east coasters are super offended and don't want to admit that bigs shit was west coast influenced lol its okay to give props damn... big is still a legend and it don't take anything away from him
It's the CONSTRUCTION of the record that's west coast, not just the sample. The R&B diva chick singing the hook, taking the familiar funk sample (lol, and people used to HAAAAATTTEEEE on the west for that), telling the story moreso than just flexing technique which they often said was the main difference between east/west MC's of the time. These are the elements people are talking about when they say B.I.G.'s albums were made with that west coast mold. I mean come on, All Eyez on Me first double album in hip hop history '96. Life After Death, second double album, 1997??? LMAO!!!
dawb86 Biggie's first album was straight up east coast ( beats that were typically used in New York hip hop) . In his second album he used beats that were used in west coast hip hop. I remembered when radio stations first played west coast hip hop . I think it was eazy e's song with the misdemeanor sample, we did not like it at all!! But the radio stations kept pushing that west coast stuff on us until we gave in.
arinic7 You just glossed over everything I explained in my comment to make a point about the SOUND of the record. What Jamar meant was that the way the Ready to Die album was CRAFTED was done like Cube/Dre/Eazy/Snoop was doing their albums, which Puff can be QUOTED as having said was inspirational for the way they executed that album. 36 Chambers, Enta da Stage, Illmatic, The Infamous, etc. were more East coast in execution than the RTD album. It is not 1992, I don't know why cats from the East coast are STILL out here going out of their way to prove there was no influence from out West when the artists THEMSELVES have stated otherwise. SMH.
dawb86 If I were u I wouldn't listen to what Puff and other artists says. They say shit to be diplomatic and to make money!!! And yes I'm still stuck in the 90's!!
Believe me, I know Puff is a snake and a fake lol. There's no reason to lie about that though. What would u gain calling someone an influence? And not listen to other artists? NOW you just sound like another salty east coast kid probably pissed the South been hogging the ball all these years. I'm more 80s/90s hip hop myself but I grew out of that era of just hating on the new cats and rappers from other regions. You end up missing out on a bunch of dope shit being like that. There was a time when I NEVER listened to east coast shit, all I ever played was Snoop, Pac, Dogg Pound, E-40, stuff like that. So imagine how I felt when I actually started fucking with Nas, AZ, Pun, all the way up to now with Logic and Los. Hip hop is alot doper when u don't hear it with prejudiced ears to certain styles.
Easy Moe Beats was from Brooklyn he did a lot of Biggie's tracks and was G Funk influenced. Who shot ya was a East Coast sound and machine gun funk. People should just enjoy the music tho and stop with the trying to segregate sounds of hip hop.
Rick Harding The chronic was all Roger troutman and funkadelic and Big didn't have that sound and to keep it a buck the X clan used that funkadelic sound before anybody out west smh niggas don't be knowing they Hip Hop history...
Sincere Marks: Exactly. That's why to this day, I don't understand Pac's claim that Biggie stole his sound/style. It sounded different over 20 years ago and it sounds different now.
Ok how you know u count all the sales,hip hop ain't based on money,it's based on creativity,2 turntables and a mic,so the reall hip hop headz know who they are!!!💯
New york never had one rap sound! G funk sound is not from the west coast it's an east coast sound that the west coast adopted. check out the song by (EPMD - YOU GOTS TO CHILL) then check out (STEZO - IT'S MY TURN) that funk sound was first implemented in to rap music by new yorkers. New york never had one rap sound we had multiple but we favored the boom bap sound more because it went better with our gritty streets. Cali rappers were studying new york rappers back in the 80's. Ice t copied schooly d's song (PSK) to create his version called 6 in the morning. schooly d is from Philly but back in the 80's he was always in new york. And ice t is originally from new jersey. My point is that alot of the sounds in rap were first done in new york city but other regions adopted them as their own. If you look at afrika bambataa - (planet rock) song that's electro hiphop and California rappers started copying that sound as well.
el trio thank you bro, Cali niggas love talkin sh!t but don't realize we fathered this sh!t, if it wasn't for NY niggaz, non of this wouldnt even exist foreal smh 🤦♂️
Prodigy has a lot of murals throughout NYC and even more around the world. The cats that defaced the QB mural are nobody's. Their scope is short sighted. P was bigger than a housing project and even NYC. You could tell that whoever defaced the mural is weak. They struck when no one was around to stop them.
Tone Riggz well said
That defacing was a personal street matter.
Tone Riggz, so glad that you shared with us that OTHER Prodigy murals have gone up and stay up. That made my day!
I can’t speak much to those who either did or supported the mural defacing. Just that there was not a lot of thought and massive amounts of anger. It will set you up; cast you down into a negative existence every time, if your not careful. Even Prodigy spoke wisdom on that. Some ears should be more open to that message.
True-“two wrongs don’t make a right”
he's right about that part, Biggies song "Big Poppa" did have a west coast sounding instrumental
If im not mistaken i read some article about biggie wanting 2pac to be his manager 2pac said no and biggie would make him a star and then give him some advice about writing a song and it was about women write a song about women because women loves to be serenade. I think thats why big poppa came.
I mean puffy would make biggie a star
@@eugenepaul4061 I think it was March 96 source magazine I read it yesterday
"Big Poppa" was a sample from the Isley Brothers, who were from Ohio, which is the Midwest.
@@eugenepaul4061pac told biggie not to rock with puff and he still was
Biggie was supposed to be in Thug Life
Biggie said he was influenced by King T. He used to bump The Chronic and Doggystyle as well. You can definitely hear influence on Ready to Die from the hooks and samples. Mobb Deep definitely kept it gully and NY. From the sound, style, and lingo...DUNN.
Right
HipHopR&BLover Jon the song juicy is not a cali beat. It has nothing to do with a west coast sound. The song juicy cones from 80's new york r&b group mtumes - juicy fruit song
HipHopR&BLover Jon Big was influenced more by Kane, Kool G Rap and Rakim. Chubb Rock as well. Obviously Dre and some west coast as well. We all bumped the Chronic and Doggystyle but Big, Dre/Snoop and King T are all completely different artists with completely different sounds.
el trio Nobody said that was a Cali beat because the group was from NY but the West Coast Rap scene was heavily sampling R&B and Funk like that. Along with mixing it with whines, synths, and harmony. They called it ''G-Funk''.
Two Cents J Biggie said it himself. Their vocals are nearly identical too.
Cradle to the Grave is one of Mobb Deeps greatest songs. It sounds like a NY housing project. I feel like I'm in 1995 Queens every time I hear it.
We know you was there at the homicide scene/& if it wasn't you it was somebody from ya team
Cradle to the is there top track, & i do like start of your ending,
@@breaks3085eye for an eye for life...
INFAMOUS GREATEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME. That’s NYC at that time point blank period. That’s the sound track to NYC forever.
R.I.P Prodigy
People are misunderstanding what he means. The West Coast sound is not just G-funk. The West Coast sound was known for using old school funk and soul samples with heavy basslines. Whereas the East Coast sound relied heavily on jazz samples and breakbeats.
Yeah havoc used jazz a lot.
Ready to die was a westcoast album beat wise, people have been saying this since it dropped. No east coast album sounded like that back then. Jamar was 120% correct.
nah bruh!
MrThekidisback Yes bruh. Those are westcoast beats. Not That boom bap shit New York was on.
east coast early 90s was lyics not many great productions nas illmatic didnt have great beats... it was lyricism then
shamicheal lewis You're correct. The boom bap sound was played out and the West sound was light years ahead of anything the East was doing at that time. They needed to bite what the West was doing to gain a foothold in the market. Even the content changed. Dudes were hating on the west coast content being nothing but ignorance until a east coast rapper did it, then it was ground breaking.
No east coast album sounded like that back then. I guess u never heard a lot of cuts off the Masta Ace & I.N.C album. He had a lot of what is considered of west coast sound on that album. Especially his hit record off that album Born to Roll. But even Born to Roll beat was a sample from Original Concept - Knowledge Me (1986).
Tupac and Sway said the same shit biggie used west coast sound for his success !
young city Chornic was a hot album but BIG didn't need that sound to be a success,Puff forced that on him while BIG had songs like Party and BS,warning,everyday struggle,unbelievable and can I live to my last day,which NYC niggas loved more so niggas really need to know the facts
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
Sincere Marks nigga I'm not just talking about New York I'm talking blowing up on a national level his hit records
Ready to die was influenced by the chronic
Tupac was a fraud, and Swayy ain't got the answers. That's factual
Finally someone from East coast telling the truth even his flow
biggie's SINGLES had that smooth west coast sound but the rest of the album was very much NYC street sounding songs. so i partially agree with lord jamar. whereas mobb deep kept it nyc street.
B.I.G. flow was HEAVILY reminiscent of King Tee and the way that Ready to Die album was crafted was very much west coast gangsta rap/g-funk inspired. Everybody like to make it like B.I.G. saved NY but only from a commercial standpoint. Mobb Deep, Nas and Wu-Tang did more in that department then B.I.G. to be honest. Nothing to do with skill which of course he had but people felt like they could start shitting on the west again BECAUSE Biggie dropped with an OBVIOUS west coast influence.
dawb86 💯 exactly! I think because of Puff he was biting that whole Chronic/Death Row sound and also having some ny type beats but West Coast was so popping back then that they chose to go the commercial route with the sound. Unlike bad boy, Nas, Mobb Deep and several others had a 100% NY sound early on. Many rappers from NY low keyed hated on Big for not truly sounding authentic but anyway, people tend to re write history
dawb86 - I couldn’t have said it better
You can't just say biggie didn't do shit for ny, even though he used west coast influenced beats, he was ny and still to this day the greatest rapper of all time..
And thats why Pac claimed that Biggie copied his style!
Even though he sounded nothing like Pac smh......
Skullsplitter Biggie was the illest but Pac was the realest....
"Now it's all about Versace, you copied my style"...literally speaking on his fashion wear. And
And the whole life after death talk, Pac was the only one spitting on that topic..u can hear it in biggy flow
@@thefuture5469 I think from hearing pac and biggie talk about it ,it was more like biggie was influenced by pac but was also been persuaded by his record label to be a bit more than just spitting dope lyrics
Skullsplitter no he wasn’t
THE BEST LORD JAMAR INTERVIEW HANDS DOWN .B.! HAHAH . RIP PRODIGY . THATS REAL NY SHIT THE WHOLE COUNTRY FELL IN LUV WITH.
Biggie was more universal sounding than Mobb Deep. This is why he was multi-platinum and Mobb was gold. This was Puffy work.
Biggie's best songs are underground ny hiphop sound, gimme the loot, warning, unbelievable, suicidal thoughts
PicturesJester Word the first thing I was thinking when I heard that was 'gimme the loot', and Party & Bullshit
Yea unbelievable is dope!
lord jamar is a great interview, him n tray Dee are definitely my no 1 and no 2 on VladTV..
The entire Ready to Die album used The Chronic and others as a blueprint. A lot of the beats, skits, etc., straight jacked from a West Coast formula. First time I heard it I said this shit sound like King Tee or something.
did anyone else notice how excited and enthusiastic vlad sounded at the very beginning of the video when he asked - (did you hear about prodigy of mobb deep passing ?!!) dial it back a little kid. .,act accordingly. ..
Mac Dre mural is respected, the jacks mural is respected, king Dream mural is respected... memorial murals need to be respected. When I go out to NY I'm going to have to check out the big L mural
Prodigy is in my top 5 and he is a hero of mine . They desecrated his painting because of the book, the beefs, and he prolly slept with of people's girlfriends or crushes .
Who the fuck would deface a Prodigy mural in Queens???? Whoever did it should step up and admit it. Don't disrespect him after he's dead and then not even take credit.
another great interview with jamar
‘The Infamous’ is woven in my teenage years, I was 16 years old when I bought The Infamous. I’m 43 now!!!!! Classic hip hop..
Real spit what he said about Biggie hits sounded like west coast shit...like PAC said... Biggie was following PACs moves ... Make music for the females... PAC double CD and biggie double CD.. Ijs 😎
Its was just mainly Puffys production, which was overblown as hell and never really hardcore like East Coast was.
Only Eastcoast song biggie did on ready to die was machine gun funk and ready to die
I was thinking recently all bigs hit singles were really samples. One more chance big poppa juicy. I guess that's diddys idea. But his album is way more gritty boom bap type shit like unbelievable. I never made the connection to the west coast sound tho
Ready to die had a little bit of everything the album was diverse asf in terms of sound it had G Funk, Reggae and alot of NY classical boom bap influences
hell Suicidal thoughts is literally a Dark NY type rap song also the shit Cali was sampling was literally NY and midwest songs so nah Biggie didnt sound like Cali, Cali sounded like NY
2pac the GOAT
Patrick Jeanty Eminem must be your rap god lmao
Robert Williams nah fam, not even. I got Nas, Big pun, hov, Mobb deep, CNN Etc. as rap gods. I can't really listen to an entire em album like that foreal, his bars elite, but his music eh, but idk if you was gettin at me or just asking a question , but 🤷🏾♂️.
DrumMajorSCSU .DrumMajorSCSU. Eminem is the goat
AMEN!
1D 1R A C U 1L A 209 !! Mac Dre, Cellski, and X Raided better than Pac, plus pac was a New Yorker.
Biggie was the future of Hip Hop and alot more than that universal type gangsta
Biggie was In love with LA. Mostly every NY rapper moved to LA but NY niggas will still say LA is wack lol smh
Make The Lakers great again It's hot with beautiful women and great weed so what nigga wouldn't like that,but when we said La was wack we were talking about the Mcs and that lifestyle y'all live out there and the fact it could never compare to NYC..
Sincere Marks but Ny took that lifestyle that La originated lol, bloods and crips came from La and now y'all got bloods and crips in NY kuz y'all love this lifestyle
DonMega DonMega if I about all that but my bloods came from prison and they bang the 5. West coast bloods bang what neighborhoods they came from
Make The Lakers great again
Man shut the fuck up... LA is cool.
The South is wack af tho
Make The Lakers great again I'm from Queens and have a house in LA, LA is not wack it's the people that are wack. For the most part LA people are show offs and fake. In NY people are much more real and upfront. That's why NYC is the capital of the world.
At 4 minutes did jamar pass wind? Someone plz tell me what that sound was
Ha ha yep!!
Biggie was so great
Brand Nubian's third album was "Cali sounding" af. I initially was taken aback by it, but eventually grew to like it.
Biggies song called " Big poppa" definitely has a west coast california sound
Only 1 of Biggie`s songs had a west coast sound and that was "Big Poppa". That song "Warning" had a very authentic east coast sound and he drop that as a single in addition to it being on his first album. What he should have said was that most of the singles Biggie dropped was commercialized.
🧢 whole ready to die sounded west coast straight facts
Jamar kinda right. Juicy, One More Chance, Big Poppa, B-Side w/Da Brat, Goin Back to Cali, all had a soultry funk/oldies sound and at the time the West was the only ones doin that. East coast was on some boom bap & New Jack swing type sound.
Put it like this, if Biggie hadnt used those samples, somebody from the West woulda probably jumped on them eventually.
But at the same time, it still had a NY feel.
Biggie - King of East Coast G-Funk.
I’m from the Bay and definitely Bay and west coast biased but love the real NY sound like Mobb and Wu.
One More Chance, Juicy, Hypnotized, Mo Money Mo Problems are not west coast sounding songs. They are commercial friendly radio songs with a NY twist. "Still tote gats strapped with infrared beams." Dudes like Cube, Snoop etc aren't gonna use wordplay like that on over a Isley brothers sample for the radio. On those songs it wasn't any west coast slang and no one from out west used those samples. What's next? He's gonna say Warning, Last Days and Kick In The Door the album cuts were west coast sounding too? Big and Nas are the ones who truly re-energized NY at the time. Mobb added on and did their thing as well but Big and Nas get the credit first. Jamar is bugging and he loses cool points on this one.
everyone want that LA sound, Biggie and Pac were both influenced by the G-Funk era
Mr October but I don't think Tht biggie hits have a west coast sound
Gabriel Morales Big Poppa, Hypnotise
Nobody gives a fuck about LA stop dickeating yall selves. Everyday Struggle, Warning, The What, Gimme the Loot were all pure NY hiphop.
Bret Maverick every song you just named were like b side songs G. They weren't HITS man. I used to fast forward dem shits anyway... something wrong with a man saying he'll suck another man off. I don't give a fucc how clever you think the wordplay is.
As an L.A dude those songs have no g funk or L.A. sound whatsoever. I love b.i.g more than pac as i rock a biggie shirt in the middle of L.A. the major biggie songs were pop songs sad to say. Puffy wanted commercial hits. Tell me warning sounds like juicy or snoops whats my name or let me ride by dre
Lord Jamar very wise man
I thought I was the only one that thought biggies hits were West coast inspired....
Finally someone speaks facts..ready to die sound like Dre produced it every song has west coast flavor with snoop n Dre in background..R.I.P. big my west coast brother lol we got Pac and big this Westside
Biggie had the cali sound. Another proof that he was inspired by pac.
Kenny Wu not his music style
2Pac's first rap name was MC New York LMAO come on. On top of that, Pac didn't have a West Coast sound til Death Row. He used the same producers Biggie used when he was recording Me Against the World
Nigga big sounded like a New Yorker
Danny Florio his first 2 albums plus thug life was pure west coast! Especially the thug life album
POETRY, POWER & PISTOLS PAC is a east coast mc rhyming over a east coast sound stupid
Look up Andre Nickatina - The Ave (1992)
Andre Nickatina - Lips (1992)
Then check out Biggie's BIGGEST HITS (Juicy and Big Poppa 1994)
Prodigy was talking real greasy about some already grimy QB dudes
I have 2 disagree with him biggies
Hits don't sound west coast sky the limit doesn't have a west vibe juicy dosnt have a west coast vibe
Gabriel Morales juicy does have a Westcoast sound, the beat is Laid Back with synthesizers which is known as the Westcoast sound
"Jose Luise gotcha, golden guns in tons
Emmanu-al, gene-ral, rock eme-ralds....."
Mike Delorean did not say the children of some people from QB did that.
C'mon Jamal Juicy wasn't a Cali joint. Your 3rd album was Cali. Remember?
Lord jamar kids if he have some should be Happy and proud they have a father this smart.
Can y'all stop. Mobb 1st album and biggie first came around the same time. Ready to die was later and it was more commercial not LA gfunk sounding. Puff went for a broader commercial sound they were in no way trying to sound like LA except for the song " going back to cali"
Why am I rewinding the part when hes saying "👈👈😮 Ya man ROB!! ..."? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I would agree that "Juicy" & "Big Poppa" were West Coast. Not the album cuts. They were Tri-State area to the core. You don't hear one Bay-buh, Bay-Bay in "Unbelievable"
To make a long story short, The Chronic and Doggstyle set the Blueprint for most hardcore/gangster rap albums that came after them from Ready to Die to Life After Death to All Eyes On Me to Get Rich or Die Trying. Biggie was just an East Coast version of Snoop and NO Ready to Die was not as good as Doggystyle.
Lord Jammar just Trumps this interview
George clinton and the Parliament funkadelics are from new Jersey not the west coast!!! Californias g funk sound is originally from the east coast. Roger troutman and the group Zapp are from OHIO. The funk sound is an east coast sound! !!!
One of my favorite groups Mobb Deep was the shit RIP P !
"At the time cali was winning hella crazy" lol
Biggie bit tupac lines wen he said girls use to diss me now they wanna kiss me, like pac said on i get around! lol
peace; I always thought Biggie was into LL Cool J as well but westcoast I never thought he had that type sound. LL did that Going Back to Cali and I believe Biggie lile that song and made a Cali joint
Warning, Hypnotize and Nasty Girl were not West Cost hits what is Lord Jamar talking about?
Hypnotize, Big Poppa and Juicy was
I feel Lord J. on that, but what about Wu-Tang? They came out in '93 and blew up in '94. RZA had a lot of biters. Havoc's dark production sound was greatly influenced by Wu-Tang and Black Moon.
They was tough but mobb deep was rough and rugged with it , & its not to take away from wu tang clan cause they are great but mobb deep the way they was coming was something differnet.
1:36 However Lord J, killer Ben's mural gets Defaced regularly...last time I past it the eyes were like painted OVER.. Blurred!!
The song juicy by biggie sampled the song "juicy fruit" that was sung by new york city r&b group by the name of mtumes back in the 80's. The g funk sound is not a california sound it is an OHIO sound. Roger troutman is from ohio not California. DR DRE and them west coast producers were doing an Ohio sound. Ohio is on the east coast!!!!
el trio
Ohio is Midwest.. but east coast is true hip hop to me.
Marak Lia if you look on a map ohio is on the east coast. It is not on the west or mid west. Another thing new york rappers were the first ones to use the funk sound in rap. Look up. ( EPMD -you got to chill) that record came out in 1987. That was before dr dre, snoop dogg or any west coast rapper used that sound I'm their production. Also look up( stezo- it's my turn) that's also a funk sound and that song came out in 1988. California producers saw this and started copying it.
el trio you got cali fucked up please I hope you happy saying bullshit
el trio ohio is not on the east coast all all states on the east touch the atlantic ocean. ohio does not. its near one of the great lakes its still inland quite a ways from the ocean.
el trio+ word!!
that's like saying Jayz had a Virginia sound to him because he stayed using timberland beats the fuck outta here
Pac gave him a.new style to run with and he did, he wanted pac to be his manager btw, puffy is really the one who got in the way and same with sugar vice versa
biggie i know used to hang out with snoop and did that going back to cali song but he was the best rapper from the eastcoast
Diddy did say they took inspiration Dre and his album when it came to sampling for Big's album
His mural in QB was fucked up because the street dudes out there felt he said to much in his personal authorized book he made when he was still alive so it wasn’t random and def was some street shit involved
The only thing that comes to my mind when he says disrespectful motherfuckers is his rant about Eminem
Prodigy wasn't from the bridge there was some people from there that wasn't feeling the mural. It be like that sometimes
Ready to die didn't have any west coast feel to it at all smh His second album did because it got watered down and was commercialized. Still had some classics on it tho.
Big Poppa and Juicy were West Coast inspired on RTD, those were the hits on that album.
but biggie rhymes didnt always sound like west coast
man like i remember in the prodigy mural people like were trying to destroy it like cmon prodigy was a dope mc from here ny
Not Biggie First hits Juciy was west coast ? Notorious B.I.G whole album was hits before that the one with super cat ,Warning like what are you talking about I didn't even get to the Going back to cali yet you got The Funk you got Oh biggie give me one more chance like it's tons of newyork hits
Vlad with the squelchy fart at 4.00min
biggie actually didn't like the juicy beat. puff made him use it for a radio friendly track
Prodigy tribute out now, would mean a lot if you could check it out!
R.I.P. Prodigy
Because they was using the Dre formula with the samples look at Illmatic was traditional New York Hip Hop beats what Nas didn't different was he used the best producers
Why do u keep interviewing this man!???? Lord Jamar stay on Vladtv 💯😂😂😂😂 #gethimouttahere
all these salty as New Yorkers/east coasters are super offended and don't want to admit that bigs shit was west coast influenced lol its okay to give props damn... big is still a legend and it don't take anything away from him
I always thought that RTD felt like The Chronic.
RIP Prodigy
Juicy didn't have a west coast sound . The songs on his last album had the west coast sound
It's the CONSTRUCTION of the record that's west coast, not just the sample. The R&B diva chick singing the hook, taking the familiar funk sample (lol, and people used to HAAAAATTTEEEE on the west for that), telling the story moreso than just flexing technique which they often said was the main difference between east/west MC's of the time. These are the elements people are talking about when they say B.I.G.'s albums were made with that west coast mold. I mean come on, All Eyez on Me first double album in hip hop history '96. Life After Death, second double album, 1997??? LMAO!!!
dawb86 Biggie's first album was straight up east coast ( beats that were typically used in New York hip hop) . In his second album he used beats that were used in west coast hip hop. I remembered when radio stations first played west coast hip hop . I think it was eazy e's song with the misdemeanor sample, we did not like it at all!! But the radio stations kept pushing that west coast stuff on us until we gave in.
arinic7 You just glossed over everything I explained in my comment to make a point about the SOUND of the record. What Jamar meant was that the way the Ready to Die album was CRAFTED was done like Cube/Dre/Eazy/Snoop was doing their albums, which Puff can be QUOTED as having said was inspirational for the way they executed that album. 36 Chambers, Enta da Stage, Illmatic, The Infamous, etc. were more East coast in execution than the RTD album. It is not 1992, I don't know why cats from the East coast are STILL out here going out of their way to prove there was no influence from out West when the artists THEMSELVES have stated otherwise. SMH.
dawb86 If I were u I wouldn't listen to what Puff and other artists says. They say shit to be diplomatic and to make money!!! And yes I'm still stuck in the 90's!!
Believe me, I know Puff is a snake and a fake lol. There's no reason to lie about that though. What would u gain calling someone an influence? And not listen to other artists? NOW you just sound like another salty east coast kid probably pissed the South been hogging the ball all these years. I'm more 80s/90s hip hop myself but I grew out of that era of just hating on the new cats and rappers from other regions. You end up missing out on a bunch of dope shit being like that. There was a time when I NEVER listened to east coast shit, all I ever played was Snoop, Pac, Dogg Pound, E-40, stuff like that. So imagine how I felt when I actually started fucking with Nas, AZ, Pun, all the way up to now with Logic and Los. Hip hop is alot doper when u don't hear it with prejudiced ears to certain styles.
My name runs each state .. so you dont have to go all the way to L.A to get your MC Eight
No doubt he had the Tupac blue print.
Ohhh shit! He didn't bring up PAC
Biggie jacked the west coast lingual
I fucks with mobb deep but b.i.g was the greatest. .stop playing! He brought NY back!
Biggie did tour with Mobb Deep and praised them though
Pretty sad that Prodigy died choking on an egg.
Vlad can you speak on Lord Jamar's Book Phone Challenge?
Easy Moe Beats was from Brooklyn he did a lot of Biggie's tracks and was G Funk influenced. Who shot ya was a East Coast sound and machine gun funk. People should just enjoy the music tho and stop with the trying to segregate sounds of hip hop.
Its not about approching or not. P bin approched, its about him being a hood legend on qb n immortalized,n real qb niggaz aint standing for it
Juicy was west coast?!?! The hell?! I'm sorry but I can't ride with Lord Jamar on that
You don't see how influential The Chronic was are you
Rick Harding: Do I see how influential the Chronic was? Yes. Do I think the Chronic influenced Biggie's debut? No.
Rick Harding The chronic was all Roger troutman and funkadelic and Big didn't have that sound and to keep it a buck the X clan used that funkadelic sound before anybody out west smh niggas don't be knowing they Hip Hop history...
Sincere Marks: Exactly. That's why to this day, I don't understand Pac's claim that Biggie stole his sound/style. It sounded different over 20 years ago and it sounds different now.
Sincere Marks false, there is no Roger Troutman sound on the chronic
The people that gave him those eggs are the ones who defaced the mural
I always thought the same how they diss deathrow but theybwere trynna sound like Dr Dre style with the beats
He was 41 going 4w when he (prodigy) died
New York wishes they were west coast. It’s not even close. West out sells the east by a lot. Ny don’t even have a sound no more.
Ok how you know u count all the sales,hip hop ain't based on money,it's based on creativity,2 turntables and a mic,so the reall hip hop headz know who they are!!!💯
New york never had one rap sound! G funk sound is not from the west coast it's an east coast sound that the west coast adopted. check out the song by (EPMD - YOU GOTS TO CHILL) then check out (STEZO - IT'S MY TURN) that funk sound was first implemented in to rap music by new yorkers. New york never had one rap sound we had multiple but we favored the boom bap sound more because it went better with our gritty streets. Cali rappers were studying new york rappers back in the 80's. Ice t copied schooly d's song (PSK) to create his version called 6 in the morning. schooly d is from Philly but back in the 80's he was always in new york. And ice t is originally from new jersey. My point is that alot of the sounds in rap were first done in new york city but other regions adopted them as their own. If you look at afrika bambataa - (planet rock) song that's electro hiphop and California rappers started copying that sound as well.
# boom bap is not from the west
Yeah, when they say New york sound I'm like that's stupid. Rap is from NY.
Moor Nation facts, we invented this
sh!t lmaooo 😂😂😂
el trio thank you bro, Cali niggas love talkin sh!t but don't realize we fathered this sh!t, if it wasn't for NY niggaz, non of this wouldnt even exist foreal smh 🤦♂️
el trio y'all NYC niggaz can't handle the truth !! fuck your bum ass city