I love the 3d printing community. It's great that there is such integrity in the most popular RUclips channels. Honest but fair reviews, doing their best to inform community and work with manufacturers. People like you and Angus do a great job and, frankly, just come across as nice people.
I thought you were going to say its $350, not $950! If you are putting it at the same price as a prusa, you have to make it really special. You cant just copy the ender 3 source files and swap out the extruder and hot end and triple the price.
Joel, I love that after all these years reviewing printers you can still have fun with it, and add little bits that show that you care. Some of the other people who do what you do seem burned out and bored, but you keep it up tempo and fun. Thanks so much for that!
I absolutely love the fact that you give an honest review, noting the good AND bad aspects of the printer, and you do it so nicely, with great constructive criticism. I highly respect you for that. Great review.
I’m so glad you came out and said this, it makes you even more real then 99 percent of content creators. I watched the live stream and did not think it would be worth it . I said my opinion on there Facebook and it was deleted when any positive opinions where kept,
I appreciate your honest reviews. I thought you were being very fair and didn’t bash them on a product that may turn out to be fantastic after some updates.
At this price point I don't expect to have an unfinished project on my hands, _after_ assembly and normal calibration. Certainly not one with what seems like print-lethal firmware or electrical faults.
Looks like a combination of an Ender 3 and a Prusa i3. The printquality ironically looks below that of an Ender 3. So the price is just too high for what you get
It came with Marlin 2.0-bugfix and it corrupted the sdcard. They sent me Marlin 2.0.6 and it corrupted sdcards still. My thinking is maybe it has to do with power loss recovery writes?
@@3DPrintingNerd Idk if that is the problem, but it is not too uncommon to corrupt the micro sd cards in a raspberry pi, if you use a powersupply that is barely good enough. So if their mainboard doesn't use components that give a reliable 5V at all times (especially when it writes power loss data), that could be the problem.
Nice review, Joel! It's great to see you diving into the ecosystem model that the Prusa machines uses, hopefully WUXN does something similar and builds up a community for these machines!
I have seen "Bootleg" PRUSA 3D Printers print better quality prints than the WX1 did. And those "bootleg" 3D Printers usually sell for half of what that WX1 is going for. And that's saying a lot I guess.
Thanks for clearly explaining and demonstrating the "context" of a 3D printer, the combination of the printer itself (what's in the box) with its surrounding ecosystem (or lack thereof), and how the purchase price can include far more than what arrives in the box. I now better understand why, when a vendor has not (yet) built a new ecosystem for a new line of printers, it is important for the design to leverage the best parts from the "public" ecosystem, and to execute on them flawlessly, even if it means limiting the printer design to do so. This yet another reason why I love my Sidewinder X1 v4. It's innovations are small and contained (such as the ribbon cabling system) while it takes full advantage of the best current and proven bits (from a performance/price perspective) including the silicone bed heater, V-groove rollers, enclosed electronics packaging, robust frame design, dual-Z drive, and most importantly the Volcano hotend. And it does so while avoiding "bling" such as frame-mounted LED lighting, though I enjoy the single carriage-mounted LED color being used to show the operational state of the print, such as bed heating. When it comes to the X1, a key aspect of this design approach is the intentional omission of automatic bed leveling (ABL). While researching the X1 (before buying it at a terrific Black Friday price a year ago) I was confused why such an otherwise great printer would not have the "common" feature of ABL. A few searches and some answered questions, showed me that ABL is really a hack, a way to get past the design and implementation limitations of some 3D printers. The X1 has an extremely flat tempered glass bed that is generally immune to warping across the entire bed temperature range. Manual leveling has a semi-automatic assist making it quick and easy. And the bed supports are designed so that re-leveling is seldom needed (I level my bed every 3 months, mainly so I always remember how to do it right). There's yet another intentional omission in the X1: A removable build plate (RBP), which is rapidly becoming another "common" printer feature. One would think this would be even more important for a large-format printer, where part adhesion forces can become truly formidable. As I understand it, adding an RBP would add some negative characteristics, including a less-flat build surface (increasing the need for ABL) and less even and less efficient bed heating. The print adhesion issue is partly addressed by the glass print bed, which is textured and has a matte surface finish. Together, the bed features of texture and matte surface finish provide good adhesion for nearly all materials, and when it doesn't, a small amount of glue stick is all that's ever needed. Of course the X1 v4 isn't perfect. No compromise design ever can be. In particular, the part cooling system is grossly inadequate, suitable only at slow speeds, a needless limitation for a printer that can melt filament at impressive flow rates. Fortunately, this is straightforward to upgrade, and the X1 design makes it easy, with the X1 community devising some impressive solutions. I also wasn't happy with the spool holder, another easy fix. The only fundamental X1 design item left open for debate is the use of V-groove rollers on every axis. I like linear rails, but "cheap" ones are seldom worth the cost, and "good" ones could easily have increased the X1 price by as much as 50%. So I check all rollers and belts every 3 months when I re-level the bed. Speaking of belts, they also can be improved by using lead screws or other linear actuators, but that again would put the X1 in an entirely different price bracket for relatively little performance gain. Rollers and belts pretty much define optimal performance for minimal cost. For me, the X1's design trade-offs and limitations highlight it's strengths, making itself a truly excellent member of the public 3D printing ecosystem.
I feel like this review should be brought up anytime someone calls you a shill and reviewer for hire. The Stream did not show this printer favorably and clearly neither did the post stream. I feel like you did a great job being positive about where the printer is at this point. I think the team can take this feedback and go back to the boards and fix the issues they clearly have as it sits. On paper, this printer is a beast so it's only missing some elbow grease to get it where it needs to go.
I don't think it would be of any use... If you were to be a shill, would you sell your integrity to a small, unknown brand, or a large rich brand? Plus, people who call others shills often don't care much about arguments, they just say their stuff and don't listen to the response, or hear it and ignore it, responding another lousy argument... Don't fight the trolls, ignore them. I don't think i've seen joel adress them in a video, and it seems to work quite well.
I'm sorry Joel. I put together an Anet A8 three years ago and it still prints beautiful today. With all of my mods and adjustments my old printer still runs at roughly four hundred dollars. I know this is pre-assembled but I don't think it is worth the asking price...unless I am missing something. Thanks for the honest review.
I love seeing peoples passion for 3D printing. One of my favorite quotes is" If the what your working on isn't working change the plan...but never the goal" I think they have a good start and just need some polishing. I kind of feel they may be relying to much on the brand name of a couple of key components on the product and it may not need to be that fancy but a better slicer software and high quality SD card
Amazing Review Joel, I came here knowing the printer hadn't see to many good reviews. Your experience has confirmed the fact that this printer has potential, but I do find that a commercially available printer (yes, it is pre order) with such heavily reproducible flaws (not to mention its cost) is unacceptable. For the length of time you've had the printer for the SD card to corrupt 3 TIMES is unbelievable and really if you think about it you can buy a assembled Prusa i3 MK3s for maybe 100 more including the shipping cost to USA with guaranteed of a tried and true machine. Again, alot of this can be fixed with better firmware and tuning but for its price point, i don't see how anyone can go out and buy it and take the risk.
Thanks Joel, nice review. A printer manufactured in the USA should come with a certain quality standard that this printer doesn't even come close to. The only thing decent on that whole printer is the Slice hotend and it only goes to 325.. Weird? And at that price point, you can almost buy two Ender 3's, upgrade them with Slice hotends, Duet boards, rollers, beds, sensors, etc. If you look at the MatterHacker's Pulse, you see a USA made semi-cloned Prusa printer, but MatterHacker's took the time to upgrade all of the parts, including the D-frame. The Pulse prints flawlessly right out of the box, no issues and that is what we expect from a USA made product.
it definitely has some potential , like the ender 3 tho many ppl are gonna figure out ways to 3d print upgrades for it but overall it seems pretty nice
Because of the 3d printed parts I'm fairly confident they can fairly quickly make improvements. And remember, Prusament is relatively new. Kind of weird about the SD card corrupting.
I have this printer and I like it. It is in desperate need of a firmware update coming soon, I've been told. What I've learned until the update comes, is that the SD card needs to be removed before you power up the machine or it will be corrupted. The filament runout sensor and the power resume features need to be disabled until the firmware is updated. All my prints stick fine to the build sheet with the included glue stick, which cleans off easy with alcohol spray and a rag. I've been using it for a month and I'm diggin' it....but looking forward to the firmware update. Customer service is top notch.
that price.. wow, ive been seeing a ton of ads and videos on the sunlu s8, would love to get your take on it, that seems to be much better bang for the buck at 175.00 , keep up the great vids!
You (the manufacturer) can be passionate about something but you can also blindly push a product that is just a polished turd. Glad you were honest about this printer. It's obvious it's an overpriced Ender 3 variant.
Well hmm I have 2 ender 3's one regular and one pro. The original is setup with 4 mods. BL touch, Direct drive kit, Filament sensor, And big tree tech SKR mini v1.2. All in all I think I've spent $300. bucks on it. It makes fully functional prints on the stock PEI sheet that it came with (Non-Magnetic BTW) with no additional friction modifiers. Prints in PETG, PLA, and TPU. While I believe it can't safely hit the temps of the WX1 it does more than it really should. The Pro is setup and makes great PLA prints at the moment as it is bone stock. List of upgrades for that printer are all the same as the non-pro with adding an internal raspberry pi for remote printing and an all metal hotend. Might build an enclosure for it not sure yet. Cost for that one is actually cheaper than that of the original at $280 total cost. As nice as this printer looks I could never justify the $950 price tag that they slapped on it. Great review otherwise keep it up.
Feels like this printer was made by Bethesda. Does not work on release, and they expect their customers and the community to fix all the things wrong with it......
Building a badass on paper 3d printer is the easy part. Dialing it in and making the results match the hardware is the hard part, and often what you pay for. The question of worth comes down to how much time you want to spend dialing a printer in, vs just hitting go and walking away on a printer someone else has dialed in.
If the aim is to deliver more intelligence, more speed and more reliability maybe they should wait with releasing a printer until at least one of those things is in place. I really like the look of this printer and the hardware seems awesome, but I wouldn't change my home made Hypercube that cost like one third for the WX1. Hopefully WUXN will come up with a WX2 that delivers on some of their goals.
Socially distant High Five Joel! Quick warning, LOOOONG COMMENT! Looks like the extruder could benefit from a reverse bowden adapter between the filament runout sensor and the extruder. My thoughts for WUXUN: First, dual Z-axis motors, linear rails on the z-axis (you already have them on X and Y why not Z). Next, lose the single lead screw on the z-axis, this price point is too high for leadscrews, make it precision ground ball screws. Like I said above, bowden adapter from the filament runout sensor to the extruder. Printed components, with the capabilities of the Slice Eng. Copperhead I think that the printed PETG components are a bit lacking. I noticed that they seem to look rushed and sloppy a bit (it might be the fuzzy texture). For the price they could easily do injection molded components. Last, I am curious about the name WUXUN. Joel you mentioned that this printer is made in Colorado, so why did they go with a Chinese sounding name? I personally would LOVE to support an American designed and built printer, I love supporting home-grown companies. But the name WUXUN sounds Chinese and does not tell me that it is made here. There should be something that makes it standout as an American company. This looks like a good start, but I have to agree with you that it seems incomplete as a finished product. While they want to compete with the likes of Prusa, the quality does not seem to be there yet. This printer has all the ingredients to be great, I hope this is just the beginning for them and that they take this criticism constructively. Getting the printer into your hands (and hopefully some other RUclipsrs) is probably the best way for them to do QA and testing. I'd love to see Angus and Thomas Sanladerer and see how it works for them as well.
Any printer made outside Asia costs much more due to labour costs, what we need is western companies designing printers to be manufactured and QC'd in Asia with the parent companies monitoring QC, Creality have adopted these ideas for themselves but seem to concentrate on the budget market, I believe at some point the market will become saturated with budget machines forcing development of better units
@@wildlifetails well i think that there is something else. Many actors just do "another printer". What is the added value? Ultimakers have their dual, interchangeable print cores, as well as the ecosytem with cura and all; prusa are IMO the golden standard that everything measures against (i don't say nothing is better than a prusa, they are very good, adequately priced, popular and thus make a good benchmark.), and also introduced a lot of features that became common later on in a mass produced machine; creality offers killer frames and good kinematics for killer prices, and have more uncommon projects such as naomi wu's infinite Z belt based printer, (and an argument could be made for the ender 3 or ender 5 to be the standard to compare against, and i would thus grant a higher score to prusa, if ender 3 is 100%, a MK3 is 130 to 140% for instance, and if prusa is 100%, ender 5 is 70-80%). Anyway, those brands are known for things. Back in the time, printrbot was known for their tank-like printers with a pretty good set of features, also built in the US with pretty decent prices for what you got. (although they did not manage to face the super cheap chinese competition). I think that there is definitely a place for 600-1000$ high quality printers (and the fact that prusa sells that much is proof), as well as more expensive ones (ultimaker proves it), but there must be an added value. Or being an established actor, known for something. But sure, it is not easy being in the US, since chinese manufacturers ramp up the quality (see the sec-kit printer that is not a plug and print machine, but is simply top notch as a printer platform; i don't know if there is much better now to be had. With a hemera, and a good 32 bits board this is a dream machine :) ) So as you say, occidental designs manufactured in china may be the way to go; also i think that manufacturers should not be afraid to use chinese ressources : in a printer from a random brand, i'd be happier to see a bigtreetech SKR 1.4 than a custom board, unless they prove right away with super good documentation, open design, etc, that their board has an added value. Another example is smoothieboard. It is awesome, for sure. But now for a fraction of the price, the SKR 1.4 can do a lot of what smoothie can do... however smoothie maintains the smoothie firmware, unlike the SKR, and a few other cool features. Still, the cheap boards are catching up. Unless smoothieboard 2.0 acually releases (a small joke as they take so much time to release it), and adds meaningful features for me, when i make my laser machine, i'm likely to use a SKR board, for it is clearly good enough with a lot of features for a much lower price...
@@jesusisalive3227 Why that? If it were not from asian manufacturing, 3D printers would cost 1000$ minimum... plus let's face it, almost everything is fabricated in asia. And for Europeans, it would make little sense to go for American manufacturing over Asia... Even for Americans, it does not make much sense. There are few things that can't be found waaay cheaper and at a good enough quality from asia...
I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but why wouldn't you put the filament sensor closer to the direct drive extruder? There is a lot of filament between the sensor and the extruder.
Hey Joel, which version of Cura were you using? The current public release version has a few bugs impacting print quality, esp. on the Ender 3 for example. I think it's been fixed in the Beta version. But I totally agree with you that this is very unpolished experience for the price. I think they needed at least another year of development, esp. on the software/firmware side (i.e. have tuned Cura and Prsusa Slicer profiles available Day 1). They have a long way to go to get to reach the Prusa out of the box print quality. Companies can't release a printer like this in a mature 3D printer market and hope to do well, especially when the print quality benchmark everything gets compared to is the $200 Ender 3. I unfortunately see this printer not doing well/having buyers especially with that branding which makes this sound like a cheap Chinese company you only find on Aliexpress/Banggood.
Holy cow, almost a thousand bucks??? Seems like it's no better than my $160 Anet A6! Granted, mine is heavily modified with aftermarket mobo, Marlin and many, MANY other hardware upgrades and mods, but still. (I'm probably at around $400 all in at this point. Love this hobby!) Factory Prusas cost less than this. I mean, I guess good luck WUXN?
Hey Joel here is a project idea for you to print the batman prop of the bust you to access the bat poles and make it work somehow like make the button in gauge a servo or something maybe make it a collaboration with punished props
Personally, at that price point, it has failed from the live stream. The last time I built a printer in that price range on my own it was 650x650x900 and worked well. So to pay that much and have that little of good product from it would be maddening to me. This is why I have a hard time recommending many printers to others is due to the price to build size value.
Your spot on. Unless you can literally beat a Prusa you dont price your machine to compete with one. I mean if its a huge build volume with something like duet main boards or tool changing abilities which is something Prusa doesnt have then sure but dont jump into their playground being the bully unless you can literally beat their butts!
Hopefully they conjure up at least one sustainable creature first, before attempting to build an ecosystem around it. Neither we nor its creators need a 3D Printing Juicero on our hands.
While I'm certain that WUXN was in full, damage-control mode after the release of this video... Has there been any follow-up to this disaster? I'm also curious as to how this machine got priced, considering that it appears to be a starter-type printer. Assuming the issues were dealt with... what makes this printer worth nearly a thousand dollars? I'd think the build area was rather small for that kind of money.
@@3DPrintingNerd As usual... another great video, JoeL! Really liked the X2 build. Watched it a couple of times. In a nutshell... why the high price tag for that thing? Did I miss something?
Great Review Joel... It just surprises me... WHY @WUXN ? Why would you send Joel a Printer without testing the ever loving piss out of it? If I was your marketing department, I would test every machine, send the filament with it, and the Slicer Setting's. The Benchy test print is ridiculous, had anyone tested that you would have seen the same thing Joel saw. Why don't you commission someone like TH3D or Tiny machines to compile a Marlin Version for your printer? At this price point, you can't make these mistakes. The American Market wants MADE IN THE USA, but not with MADE IN CHINA results. UGH.
The moment you said about ender 3, that's what I would have compared it to. Id have said maybe the $400 area due to the linear rails etc but 100% a modified ender 3 would print better than this does or even at the $949 id go prusa
Wow , I was interested ,,,,,, till I seen the 949$$ price tag. ROFLMBO, and American companies wonder why people buy from other countries. Great review as always 💪💪👍👍
This is kinda the problem with this type of US manufacturing. You don't make most of the parts that go in it, so there's a whole host of middlemen who wants their piece of the pie. So competing on price/value is almost impossible. But then you go and slap it together "eh, good enough'ish" when your only real competition option is providing a high end, polished premium user experience.
@@pr0xZen but you can make "high end premium" stuff in Asia too, everyone has the stigma that "China Is cheap" because they like to sell cheap stuff... but it's cause it sells! they make what you buy, and if you tell them to make the best thing possible, you god damn sure will have the best thing possible at a tenth the price of making it in the US, US manufacturing is just ridiculously overpriced, look at raise3d, ultimaker, MakerBot, stratasys, flashforge, etc. are their machines really worth that much? NO! I mean sub- $300 printers print better and WAY faster than their 5K piece of crap, you could beat a ultimaker S5 or a raise Pro2 for $1.5k AND print 5X as much volume per hour (or 10x in the case of the ultimaker, all with the same nozzle and layer height, just faster) big "premium" "made in the USA" companies are just trying to steal cause institutions are obligated to buy only locally produced stuff, so they overcharge them a TON
@@3DPrintingNerd That's insane. I don't think I've ever seen that happen since the early days of RepRap. My guess is their power failure protection uses the SD card for keeping track of the last position/layer data and their implementation of reading/writing to the card is broken. If they didn't catch this in their QA/QC, I have very little hope for this.
@@shadow7037932 if this turd is truly FOSS it should not be too hard to disable "resume on powerloss" features of Marlin Why they did not disable it out of the factory baffles me however!
Love the review but will definitely pass on this printer. I picked up a Ender 3 Pro yesterday it wasn't planned but I received an email from Micro Center and it was on sale IN STORE for $189+ tax and it prints well especially for the price I ordered some upgrades from Amazon fun stuff!
Ender 3 is a great printer. You can get very good quality prints out of the box, and even better with some upgrades. It's definitely the printer every thing else gets compared to.
950 bucks!!! I expected 300 for such a monstrousity of a MK3 clone. Look at that extruder, double the size of a MK3/S and still you cannot fit a filament sensor in there??? Yes double gears but hey still. If you want to compete with Prusa you better have some more imagination.
WUXN has the WX1, a familiar design with some decent upgrades. The says "More Intelligence. More Speed. More Reliability." But IS it smarter, faster, and more reliable? Let's go over what happened after the stream and what my experience with the machine was. Hehe, because you wrote something involving the use of more intelligence, and i'm not the brightest bulb on the information highway though way brighter than any bulb on a tree, it seemed like the title requires a quick edit. "The says "More Intelligence"? Humans are born comedians.
That's too bad. Putting themselves in the same ballpark as Prusa and bringing little league quality play to bat against a World Series quality team. . . to go with the whole baseball analogy thing. It's really inexcusable to supply a PEI sheet that PLA won't stick to. A required upgrade to a nearly $1,000 printer?
why until now you did not review Geeetech A30T its one extruder with 3 colors i have see a French girl " Heliox" reviews the print and was so awesome without any issues / cleaning it is an issue not as easy as one color extruder but the print / i am getting my self one this month the (Heliox video title was Imprimante 3D 2 couleurs qui fait aussi des dégradés !! Geeetech A20M ) ill be waiting your review on this one
@@3DPrintingNerd i will hold on buying any multiple color machine for few weeks if not ill get it and test it and let you know, i like the girl but i don't speak french so i have to translate what i think i understand, i would love to hear ur reviews on printers ... i dont know yet what i will do but something around these thoughts ill just decide after 3 weeks
They need a buyer. To change all the 3d print parts to metal. it's like a prusa upgraded not working. When you buy from china there is 1000 prices for the same thing. a good quality review matter and would help them to improve that. Slicer and ecosystem matter is not a problem on a cartesian machine.
These kind of reviews need a more careful and analytical approach. Comparing the WX1 price point to an entry trim Pulse 3D, a Prusa Mk3 kit, and a WYSIWYG Ender 3 is misleading. FWIW, the Pulse XE printer Joel reviewed in 2018 went for $1,500. A current Pulse XE that appears to be on paper similar to the WX1 has a $2,000 list price ($1,700 sale price). I don't understand the ecosystem part, either. Optimal filaments should work across many printers, extruders, and nozzle diameters. Hence and IMO, Hatchbox is bar-none the best filament in price, accessibility, and quality.
To me it doesn't look like it's worth it. I've gotten much better performance from my Ender 3 and it did not cost near that even with the upgrades I have put on it. Ender 3: $199 (+shipping) MicroSwiss hot end: $63.50 SKR mini E3 1.2: $29:98 TFT35: $35.98 BL Touch: $39.85 PEI coated magnetic removeable bed: $26.50 CR-10 dual gear extruder: $14.98 Total: $409.79 With the quality prints the WX1 seems to produce compared to my Ender 3 setup that is less than half of the price and the quality it produces, it's not worth it for me at all.
I kind of like the design tbh. If this was priced in a way to compete with an original Ender 3, it might have been an interesting printer. With a few mods it would become a great tinkerer's machine. But the price puts it in a position, where it has to be flawless out of the box without needing fine tuning and mods.
Honestly, seeing you didnt really leave a positive review on a product like this , even tho its a "local" item and such i would trust future reviews much more from you , simply because this proves you dont get a nice review just cause you send an unit
So, considering the high price, poor print quality, low reliability and various flaws you showed, why would you call it "good"? at most i'd say "with potential if the manufacturer updates", or passable, but that is not good in it's state... I like the linear rails, but what does it bring to the table here? why pay for linear rails for a bad print quality? same for the good quality hotend, and the dual gear; what is the point if the extrusion is so inconsistant? considering all what you said during the review, i expected the conclusion to be "it is a good printer for 300-350$ if you plan on tinkering with it, or use the parts to build your own printer" If i compare with a MK3: -the bed is smaller; -it is slower; -it prints considerably worse; -it is unreliable; -it is as expensive or more expensive; -obviously smaller community to help you; +it has linear rails although it does not improve print quality; +the copperhead is cool on paper; I really don't see why i'd want this machine? Unless they say that the early firmware was faulty or something; as mechanically i don't see obvious mistakes. I know that the single Z motor can cause problems with this type of design, but i hope they took it in consideration. So Wuxn, please tell us that this was not representative of the quality to expect...
I love the 3d printing community. It's great that there is such integrity in the most popular RUclips channels. Honest but fair reviews, doing their best to inform community and work with manufacturers. People like you and Angus do a great job and, frankly, just come across as nice people.
They both very much are!
I thought you were going to say its $350, not $950! If you are putting it at the same price as a prusa, you have to make it really special. You cant just copy the ender 3 source files and swap out the extruder and hot end and triple the price.
You can, but it should be fine tuned to hell for that price.
@@al-Zughal You most definitely aren't wrong
Wow :O after seeing this review, I thought he would say "in a spot and at a price point" like the ender 3 ^^
@@al-Zughal I have the ender 3 and the prints turn out great :D looking way better than the prints of this printer ^^
The hotend alone is around $240 how will you sell the printer for $350 ? ;-)
I've been looking forward to this one 😍
same here ! you have amazing content aswell! love watching your videos
@@Matas3DCreations Angus is an OG and his content is absolutely fantastic.
Wow, its actually you!
@@eddiemoser3150 yeah but he needs to spice up his only fans game .. ;p
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Tastefully honest, Joel. Nice work.
We're rooting for you, WUXN!
Joel, I love that after all these years reviewing printers you can still have fun with it, and add little bits that show that you care. Some of the other people who do what you do seem burned out and bored, but you keep it up tempo and fun. Thanks so much for that!
I absolutely love the fact that you give an honest review, noting the good AND bad aspects of the printer, and you do it so nicely, with great constructive criticism. I highly respect you for that. Great review.
I’m so glad you came out and said this, it makes you even more real then 99 percent of content creators. I watched the live stream and did not think it would be worth it . I said my opinion on there Facebook and it was deleted when any positive opinions where kept,
I appreciate your honest reviews. I thought you were being very fair and didn’t bash them on a product that may turn out to be fantastic after some updates.
At this price point I don't expect to have an unfinished project on my hands, _after_ assembly and normal calibration. Certainly not one with what seems like print-lethal firmware or electrical faults.
Yeah, there's no way anyone should ever pick one of these up over a Prusa.
Looks like a combination of an Ender 3 and a Prusa i3. The printquality ironically looks below that of an Ender 3. So the price is just too high for what you get
Absolutely
Pretty sure the firmware is bad, most those problems remind me of partial firmware.
It came with Marlin 2.0-bugfix and it corrupted the sdcard. They sent me Marlin 2.0.6 and it corrupted sdcards still. My thinking is maybe it has to do with power loss recovery writes?
@@3DPrintingNerd Idk if that is the problem, but it is not too uncommon to corrupt the micro sd cards in a raspberry pi, if you use a powersupply that is barely good enough. So if their mainboard doesn't use components that give a reliable 5V at all times (especially when it writes power loss data), that could be the problem.
@@3DPrintingNerd Sounds to me like they just included the sdcard that came with the BIQU BTT board which, without fail, corrupt.
Nice review, Joel! It's great to see you diving into the ecosystem model that the Prusa machines uses, hopefully WUXN does something similar and builds up a community for these machines!
Been checking every day for this. Thanks Joel! Was waiting on your evaluation before pulling the trigger on this one.
I have seen "Bootleg" PRUSA 3D Printers print better quality prints than the WX1 did. And those "bootleg" 3D Printers usually sell for half of what that WX1 is going for. And that's saying a lot I guess.
Thanks for clearly explaining and demonstrating the "context" of a 3D printer, the combination of the printer itself (what's in the box) with its surrounding ecosystem (or lack thereof), and how the purchase price can include far more than what arrives in the box. I now better understand why, when a vendor has not (yet) built a new ecosystem for a new line of printers, it is important for the design to leverage the best parts from the "public" ecosystem, and to execute on them flawlessly, even if it means limiting the printer design to do so.
This yet another reason why I love my Sidewinder X1 v4. It's innovations are small and contained (such as the ribbon cabling system) while it takes full advantage of the best current and proven bits (from a performance/price perspective) including the silicone bed heater, V-groove rollers, enclosed electronics packaging, robust frame design, dual-Z drive, and most importantly the Volcano hotend. And it does so while avoiding "bling" such as frame-mounted LED lighting, though I enjoy the single carriage-mounted LED color being used to show the operational state of the print, such as bed heating.
When it comes to the X1, a key aspect of this design approach is the intentional omission of automatic bed leveling (ABL). While researching the X1 (before buying it at a terrific Black Friday price a year ago) I was confused why such an otherwise great printer would not have the "common" feature of ABL. A few searches and some answered questions, showed me that ABL is really a hack, a way to get past the design and implementation limitations of some 3D printers. The X1 has an extremely flat tempered glass bed that is generally immune to warping across the entire bed temperature range. Manual leveling has a semi-automatic assist making it quick and easy. And the bed supports are designed so that re-leveling is seldom needed (I level my bed every 3 months, mainly so I always remember how to do it right).
There's yet another intentional omission in the X1: A removable build plate (RBP), which is rapidly becoming another "common" printer feature. One would think this would be even more important for a large-format printer, where part adhesion forces can become truly formidable. As I understand it, adding an RBP would add some negative characteristics, including a less-flat build surface (increasing the need for ABL) and less even and less efficient bed heating. The print adhesion issue is partly addressed by the glass print bed, which is textured and has a matte surface finish. Together, the bed features of texture and matte surface finish provide good adhesion for nearly all materials, and when it doesn't, a small amount of glue stick is all that's ever needed.
Of course the X1 v4 isn't perfect. No compromise design ever can be. In particular, the part cooling system is grossly inadequate, suitable only at slow speeds, a needless limitation for a printer that can melt filament at impressive flow rates. Fortunately, this is straightforward to upgrade, and the X1 design makes it easy, with the X1 community devising some impressive solutions. I also wasn't happy with the spool holder, another easy fix.
The only fundamental X1 design item left open for debate is the use of V-groove rollers on every axis. I like linear rails, but "cheap" ones are seldom worth the cost, and "good" ones could easily have increased the X1 price by as much as 50%. So I check all rollers and belts every 3 months when I re-level the bed. Speaking of belts, they also can be improved by using lead screws or other linear actuators, but that again would put the X1 in an entirely different price bracket for relatively little performance gain. Rollers and belts pretty much define optimal performance for minimal cost.
For me, the X1's design trade-offs and limitations highlight it's strengths, making itself a truly excellent member of the public 3D printing ecosystem.
Wow, Joel, nice and honest review, as always.
I feel like this review should be brought up anytime someone calls you a shill and reviewer for hire. The Stream did not show this printer favorably and clearly neither did the post stream. I feel like you did a great job being positive about where the printer is at this point. I think the team can take this feedback and go back to the boards and fix the issues they clearly have as it sits. On paper, this printer is a beast so it's only missing some elbow grease to get it where it needs to go.
I don't think it would be of any use... If you were to be a shill, would you sell your integrity to a small, unknown brand, or a large rich brand?
Plus, people who call others shills often don't care much about arguments, they just say their stuff and don't listen to the response, or hear it and ignore it, responding another lousy argument...
Don't fight the trolls, ignore them. I don't think i've seen joel adress them in a video, and it seems to work quite well.
Thanks for the review! I'll be steering well clear of this machine.
I'm sorry Joel. I put together an Anet A8 three years ago and it still prints beautiful today. With all of my mods and adjustments my old printer still runs at roughly four hundred dollars. I know this is pre-assembled but I don't think it is worth the asking price...unless I am missing something. Thanks for the honest review.
I love seeing peoples passion for 3D printing. One of my favorite quotes is" If the what your working on isn't working change the plan...but never the goal" I think they have a good start and just need some polishing. I kind of feel they may be relying to much on the brand name of a couple of key components on the product and it may not need to be that fancy but a better slicer software and high quality SD card
Amazing Review Joel, I came here knowing the printer hadn't see to many good reviews. Your experience has confirmed the fact that this printer has potential, but I do find that a commercially available printer (yes, it is pre order) with such heavily reproducible flaws (not to mention its cost) is unacceptable. For the length of time you've had the printer for the SD card to corrupt 3 TIMES is unbelievable and really if you think about it you can buy a assembled Prusa i3 MK3s for maybe 100 more including the shipping cost to USA with guaranteed of a tried and true machine. Again, alot of this can be fixed with better firmware and tuning but for its price point, i don't see how anyone can go out and buy it and take the risk.
Firm, but fair ! I hope they work with you or at least listen to improve some of the issues.
Thanks for an honest review, it's hard nowadays as reviewers are under pressure to be positive. I think you did that well with a lemon.
Thanks Joel, nice review. A printer manufactured in the USA should come with a certain quality standard that this printer doesn't even come close to. The only thing decent on that whole printer is the Slice hotend and it only goes to 325.. Weird? And at that price point, you can almost buy two Ender 3's, upgrade them with Slice hotends, Duet boards, rollers, beds, sensors, etc. If you look at the MatterHacker's Pulse, you see a USA made semi-cloned Prusa printer, but MatterHacker's took the time to upgrade all of the parts, including the D-frame. The Pulse prints flawlessly right out of the box, no issues and that is what we expect from a USA made product.
thanks keep posting regularly
it definitely has some potential , like the ender 3 tho many ppl are gonna figure out ways to 3d print upgrades for it but overall it seems pretty nice
Because of the 3d printed parts I'm fairly confident they can fairly quickly make improvements. And remember, Prusament is relatively new. Kind of weird about the SD card corrupting.
Except Black background LCD, Motors, Z leadscrews for production will come from LDO too.
I have this printer and I like it. It is in desperate need of a firmware update coming soon, I've been told. What I've learned until the update comes, is that the SD card needs to be removed before you power up the machine or it will be corrupted. The filament runout sensor and the power resume features need to be disabled until the firmware is updated. All my prints stick fine to the build sheet with the included glue stick, which cleans off easy with alcohol spray and a rag. I've been using it for a month and I'm diggin' it....but looking forward to the firmware update. Customer service is top notch.
Thanks Joel, good info
that price.. wow, ive been seeing a ton of ads and videos on the sunlu s8, would love to get your take on it, that seems to be much better bang for the buck at 175.00 , keep up the great vids!
You (the manufacturer) can be passionate about something but you can also blindly push a product that is just a polished turd. Glad you were honest about this printer. It's obvious it's an overpriced Ender 3 variant.
Well hmm I have 2 ender 3's one regular and one pro. The original is setup with 4 mods. BL touch, Direct drive kit, Filament sensor, And big tree tech SKR mini v1.2. All in all I think I've spent $300. bucks on it. It makes fully functional prints on the stock PEI sheet that it came with (Non-Magnetic BTW) with no additional friction modifiers. Prints in PETG, PLA, and TPU. While I believe it can't safely hit the temps of the WX1 it does more than it really should. The Pro is setup and makes great PLA prints at the moment as it is bone stock. List of upgrades for that printer are all the same as the non-pro with adding an internal raspberry pi for remote printing and an all metal hotend. Might build an enclosure for it not sure yet. Cost for that one is actually cheaper than that of the original at $280 total cost. As nice as this printer looks I could never justify the $950 price tag that they slapped on it. Great review otherwise keep it up.
Feels like this printer was made by Bethesda. Does not work on release, and they expect their customers and the community to fix all the things wrong with it......
Building a badass on paper 3d printer is the easy part. Dialing it in and making the results match the hardware is the hard part, and often what you pay for. The question of worth comes down to how much time you want to spend dialing a printer in, vs just hitting go and walking away on a printer someone else has dialed in.
An ender with all these upgrades would be a better printer. That purple though 😍
Please make the camera arm Alexandre designed.
I love the design and would love to see another make of it
If the aim is to deliver more intelligence, more speed and more reliability maybe they should wait with releasing a printer until at least one of those things is in place.
I really like the look of this printer and the hardware seems awesome, but I wouldn't change my home made Hypercube that cost like one third for the WX1.
Hopefully WUXN will come up with a WX2 that delivers on some of their goals.
Socially distant High Five Joel!
Quick warning, LOOOONG COMMENT!
Looks like the extruder could benefit from a reverse bowden adapter between the filament runout sensor and the extruder.
My thoughts for WUXUN:
First, dual Z-axis motors, linear rails on the z-axis (you already have them on X and Y why not Z).
Next, lose the single lead screw on the z-axis, this price point is too high for leadscrews, make it precision ground ball screws.
Like I said above, bowden adapter from the filament runout sensor to the extruder.
Printed components, with the capabilities of the Slice Eng. Copperhead I think that the printed PETG components are a bit lacking.
I noticed that they seem to look rushed and sloppy a bit (it might be the fuzzy texture).
For the price they could easily do injection molded components.
Last, I am curious about the name WUXUN.
Joel you mentioned that this printer is made in Colorado, so why did they go with a Chinese sounding name?
I personally would LOVE to support an American designed and built printer, I love supporting home-grown companies. But the name WUXUN sounds Chinese and does not tell me that it is made here.
There should be something that makes it standout as an American company.
This looks like a good start, but I have to agree with you that it seems incomplete as a finished product.
While they want to compete with the likes of Prusa, the quality does not seem to be there yet.
This printer has all the ingredients to be great, I hope this is just the beginning for them and that they take this criticism constructively.
Getting the printer into your hands (and hopefully some other RUclipsrs) is probably the best way for them to do QA and testing.
I'd love to see Angus and Thomas Sanladerer and see how it works for them as well.
Kudos for being open hardware and software, but I wouldn't touch this printer with a ten foot pole.
For almost $1000 I would touch a printer that can print a 10 foot pole, though...
@@pileofstuff Sounds like you're looking for a belt printer ;)
I mean, it's pricey but i wouldn't be surprised to see this one get some upgrades and improvements much like the original i3 did
I would look into a Caribou machine!!😁
Any printer made outside Asia costs much more due to labour costs, what we need is western companies designing printers to be manufactured and QC'd in Asia with the parent companies monitoring QC, Creality have adopted these ideas for themselves but seem to concentrate on the budget market, I believe at some point the market will become saturated with budget machines forcing development of better units
@@wildlifetails well i think that there is something else. Many actors just do "another printer". What is the added value? Ultimakers have their dual, interchangeable print cores, as well as the ecosytem with cura and all; prusa are IMO the golden standard that everything measures against (i don't say nothing is better than a prusa, they are very good, adequately priced, popular and thus make a good benchmark.), and also introduced a lot of features that became common later on in a mass produced machine; creality offers killer frames and good kinematics for killer prices, and have more uncommon projects such as naomi wu's infinite Z belt based printer, (and an argument could be made for the ender 3 or ender 5 to be the standard to compare against, and i would thus grant a higher score to prusa, if ender 3 is 100%, a MK3 is 130 to 140% for instance, and if prusa is 100%, ender 5 is 70-80%).
Anyway, those brands are known for things. Back in the time, printrbot was known for their tank-like printers with a pretty good set of features, also built in the US with pretty decent prices for what you got. (although they did not manage to face the super cheap chinese competition).
I think that there is definitely a place for 600-1000$ high quality printers (and the fact that prusa sells that much is proof), as well as more expensive ones (ultimaker proves it), but there must be an added value. Or being an established actor, known for something.
But sure, it is not easy being in the US, since chinese manufacturers ramp up the quality (see the sec-kit printer that is not a plug and print machine, but is simply top notch as a printer platform; i don't know if there is much better now to be had. With a hemera, and a good 32 bits board this is a dream machine :) )
So as you say, occidental designs manufactured in china may be the way to go; also i think that manufacturers should not be afraid to use chinese ressources : in a printer from a random brand, i'd be happier to see a bigtreetech SKR 1.4 than a custom board, unless they prove right away with super good documentation, open design, etc, that their board has an added value.
Another example is smoothieboard. It is awesome, for sure. But now for a fraction of the price, the SKR 1.4 can do a lot of what smoothie can do... however smoothie maintains the smoothie firmware, unlike the SKR, and a few other cool features. Still, the cheap boards are catching up. Unless smoothieboard 2.0 acually releases (a small joke as they take so much time to release it), and adds meaningful features for me, when i make my laser machine, i'm likely to use a SKR board, for it is clearly good enough with a lot of features for a much lower price...
We don't need anything else made in asia!
@@jesusisalive3227 Why that? If it were not from asian manufacturing, 3D printers would cost 1000$ minimum...
plus let's face it, almost everything is fabricated in asia.
And for Europeans, it would make little sense to go for American manufacturing over Asia...
Even for Americans, it does not make much sense. There are few things that can't be found waaay cheaper and at a good enough quality from asia...
I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but why wouldn't you put the filament sensor closer to the direct drive extruder? There is a lot of filament between the sensor and the extruder.
Hey Joel, which version of Cura were you using? The current public release version has a few bugs impacting print quality, esp. on the Ender 3 for example. I think it's been fixed in the Beta version. But I totally agree with you that this is very unpolished experience for the price. I think they needed at least another year of development, esp. on the software/firmware side (i.e. have tuned Cura and Prsusa Slicer profiles available Day 1). They have a long way to go to get to reach the Prusa out of the box print quality. Companies can't release a printer like this in a mature 3D printer market and hope to do well, especially when the print quality benchmark everything gets compared to is the $200 Ender 3. I unfortunately see this printer not doing well/having buyers especially with that branding which makes this sound like a cheap Chinese company you only find on Aliexpress/Banggood.
4.2.1 for this
Wish the build plate was bigger: at least a 250mm cube.. Why didn't you try printing in ASA or something meant for higher temps?
The quality here reminds me of what you'd get from a Chinese Ender 3 knock off. Feelsbadman.jpg.
Holy cow, almost a thousand bucks??? Seems like it's no better than my $160 Anet A6! Granted, mine is heavily modified with aftermarket mobo, Marlin and many, MANY other hardware upgrades and mods, but still. (I'm probably at around $400 all in at this point. Love this hobby!) Factory Prusas cost less than this. I mean, I guess good luck WUXN?
Printing in Halloween times , your asking for it !
Okay we've had some fun bashing the name. What would be a good name for this or any 3D printer?
most ancient dieties are already taken 🤣 time to get creative
Hey Joel here is a project idea for you to print the batman prop of the bust you to access the bat poles and make it work somehow like make the button in gauge a servo or something maybe make it a collaboration with punished props
Nice Shark!! 😜
Personally, at that price point, it has failed from the live stream. The last time I built a printer in that price range on my own it was 650x650x900 and worked well. So to pay that much and have that little of good product from it would be maddening to me. This is why I have a hard time recommending many printers to others is due to the price to build size value.
Your spot on. Unless you can literally beat a Prusa you dont price your machine to compete with one. I mean if its a huge build volume with something like duet main boards or tool changing abilities which is something Prusa doesnt have then sure but dont jump into their playground being the bully unless you can literally beat their butts!
Have you ever tried a FilaPrint surface?
I just got a creality ender 3 pro a week or 2 ago as my first printer. Been watching for years
Hopefully they conjure up at least one sustainable creature first, before attempting to build an ecosystem around it. Neither we nor its creators need a 3D Printing Juicero on our hands.
While I'm certain that WUXN was in full, damage-control mode after the release of this video...
Has there been any follow-up to this disaster? I'm also curious as to how this machine got priced, considering that it appears to be a starter-type printer.
Assuming the issues were dealt with... what makes this printer worth nearly a thousand dollars? I'd think the build area was rather small for that kind of money.
I haven’t heard from WUXN in a long time, so I don’t know what they have been up to.
@@3DPrintingNerd As usual... another great video, JoeL! Really liked the X2 build. Watched it a couple of times.
In a nutshell... why the high price tag for that thing? Did I miss something?
Could you do a review of ender 5 dual Z upgrade that is being sold on eBay??
Great Review Joel... It just surprises me... WHY @WUXN ? Why would you send Joel a Printer without testing the ever loving piss out of it? If I was your marketing department, I would test every machine, send the filament with it, and the Slicer Setting's. The Benchy test print is ridiculous, had anyone tested that you would have seen the same thing Joel saw. Why don't you commission someone like TH3D or Tiny machines to compile a Marlin Version for your printer? At this price point, you can't make these mistakes. The American Market wants MADE IN THE USA, but not with MADE IN CHINA results. UGH.
Hey- flashforge said anything about creator pro 2? It would be cool if you gave a look on it.
They responded. I’m trying :)
@@3DPrintingNerd Holy crap that was quick. Good luck tho!
Joel can you link those prints here or add then to the info on this review.
A grand!? No chance bud! Anycubic MEga X all day!!
I wonder if degreasing and scuffing the PEI with sandpaper might have made a difference?
I did that :(
The moment you said about ender 3, that's what I would have compared it to. Id have said maybe the $400 area due to the linear rails etc but 100% a modified ender 3 would print better than this does or even at the $949 id go prusa
Wow , I was interested ,,,,,, till I seen the 949$$ price tag. ROFLMBO, and American companies wonder why people buy from other countries. Great review as always 💪💪👍👍
This is kinda the problem with this type of US manufacturing. You don't make most of the parts that go in it, so there's a whole host of middlemen who wants their piece of the pie. So competing on price/value is almost impossible. But then you go and slap it together "eh, good enough'ish" when your only real competition option is providing a high end, polished premium user experience.
@@pr0xZen but you can make "high end premium" stuff in Asia too, everyone has the stigma that "China Is cheap" because they like to sell cheap stuff... but it's cause it sells! they make what you buy, and if you tell them to make the best thing possible, you god damn sure will have the best thing possible at a tenth the price of making it in the US, US manufacturing is just ridiculously overpriced, look at raise3d, ultimaker, MakerBot, stratasys, flashforge, etc. are their machines really worth that much? NO! I mean sub- $300 printers print better and WAY faster than their 5K piece of crap, you could beat a ultimaker S5 or a raise Pro2 for $1.5k AND print 5X as much volume per hour (or 10x in the case of the ultimaker, all with the same nozzle and layer height, just faster)
big "premium" "made in the USA" companies are just trying to steal cause institutions are obligated to buy only locally produced stuff, so they overcharge them a TON
So is the printer causing the SD cards to become corrupted ?
Yes.
@@3DPrintingNerd That's insane. I don't think I've ever seen that happen since the early days of RepRap. My guess is their power failure protection uses the SD card for keeping track of the last position/layer data and their implementation of reading/writing to the card is broken. If they didn't catch this in their QA/QC, I have very little hope for this.
@@shadow7037932 if this turd is truly FOSS it should not be too hard to disable "resume on powerloss" features of Marlin
Why they did not disable it out of the factory baffles me however!
When we can expect review of Biqu BX? :)
Love the review but will definitely pass on this printer. I picked up a Ender 3 Pro yesterday it wasn't planned but I received an email from Micro Center and it was on sale IN STORE for $189+ tax and it prints well especially for the price I ordered some upgrades from Amazon fun stuff!
Ender 3 is a great printer. You can get very good quality prints out of the box, and even better with some upgrades. It's definitely the printer every thing else gets compared to.
I printed a spool holder to move the PLA to the side of instead of on top so far made 3 prints no issues
So why did you not email them and request the source?
900 bucks?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I would rather get another 2 of my Ender 3 and a ton of filament instead ^^
Back to the drawing board
No silly, that printer is for you.
Our Ender 3 Pro’s at $200 usd each for two is a better deal and now modded we’re in total printers and hop ups $500 usd.
950 bucks!!! I expected 300 for such a monstrousity of a MK3 clone. Look at that extruder, double the size of a MK3/S and still you cannot fit a filament sensor in there??? Yes double gears but hey still. If you want to compete with Prusa you better have some more imagination.
Agreed. Prusa is going to eat this thing for lunch lol. Heck, I've seen better print quality from a (well assembled) $200 Ender 3.
Wuxn, Fixumdude, it's all connected
Victor Frankenstein finally produces a 3dprinter. I really can't get over the comedy value of this abomination.
WUXN has the WX1, a familiar design with some decent upgrades. The says "More Intelligence. More Speed. More Reliability." But IS it smarter, faster, and more reliable? Let's go over what happened after the stream and what my experience with the machine was.
Hehe, because you wrote something involving the use of more intelligence, and i'm not the brightest bulb on the information highway though way brighter than any bulb on a tree, it seemed like the title requires a quick edit. "The says "More Intelligence"?
Humans are born comedians.
CRC is not enabled when they wrote benchy on SD card. damaged file.
That's too bad. Putting themselves in the same ballpark as Prusa and bringing little league quality play to bat against a World Series quality team. . . to go with the whole baseball analogy thing. It's really inexcusable to supply a PEI sheet that PLA won't stick to. A required upgrade to a nearly $1,000 printer?
How is that good? It messed up multiple prints, over and over
At that price point it needs to perform like a Prusa. Get the bugs worked out and it will be a consideration, but not now...
prusa is still 2X the price it should LOL but you are paying for the brand and the support team, this printer should be sub $200 for how bad it is
LOL. I expected it to be less than half that price for those features and that performance. No need to remember its name.
why until now you did not review Geeetech A30T its one extruder with 3 colors i have see a French girl "
Heliox" reviews the print and was so awesome without any issues / cleaning it is an issue not as easy as one color extruder but the print / i am getting my self one this month the (Heliox video title was Imprimante 3D 2 couleurs qui fait aussi des dégradés !! Geeetech A20M
) ill be waiting your review on this one
Axelle is wonderful and her channel Heliox is great. Geeetech hasn’t reached out to me for that machine.
@@3DPrintingNerd i will hold on buying any multiple color machine for few weeks if not ill get it and test it and let you know, i like the girl but i don't speak french so i have to translate what i think i understand, i would love to hear ur reviews on printers ... i dont know yet what i will do but something around these thoughts ill just decide after 3 weeks
They need a buyer. To change all the 3d print parts to metal. it's like a prusa upgraded not working. When you buy from china there is 1000 prices for the same thing. a good quality review matter and would help them to improve that. Slicer and ecosystem matter is not a problem on a cartesian machine.
These kind of reviews need a more careful and analytical approach. Comparing the WX1 price point to an entry trim Pulse 3D, a Prusa Mk3 kit, and a WYSIWYG Ender 3 is misleading. FWIW, the Pulse XE printer Joel reviewed in 2018 went for $1,500. A current Pulse XE that appears to be on paper similar to the WX1 has a $2,000 list price ($1,700 sale price). I don't understand the ecosystem part, either. Optimal filaments should work across many printers, extruders, and nozzle diameters. Hence and IMO, Hatchbox is bar-none the best filament in price, accessibility, and quality.
The WX1 gets lonely when you leave the room and throws a hissy fit. In essence, your printer is a husky
To me it doesn't look like it's worth it. I've gotten much better performance from my Ender 3 and it did not cost near that even with the upgrades I have put on it.
Ender 3: $199 (+shipping)
MicroSwiss hot end: $63.50
SKR mini E3 1.2: $29:98
TFT35: $35.98
BL Touch: $39.85
PEI coated magnetic removeable bed: $26.50
CR-10 dual gear extruder: $14.98
Total: $409.79
With the quality prints the WX1 seems to produce compared to my Ender 3 setup that is less than half of the price and the quality it produces, it's not worth it for me at all.
And here is proof price =/= quality
for the price they ask, these machines have to function 100 %.
As soon as I saw that I thought, man that looks like a really ugly ender 3 lol.
I kind of like the design tbh. If this was priced in a way to compete with an original Ender 3, it might have been an interesting printer. With a few mods it would become a great tinkerer's machine. But the price puts it in a position, where it has to be flawless out of the box without needing fine tuning and mods.
Honestly, seeing you didnt really leave a positive review on a product like this , even tho its a "local" item and such i would trust future reviews much more from you , simply because this proves you dont get a nice review just cause you send an unit
So, considering the high price, poor print quality, low reliability and various flaws you showed, why would you call it "good"? at most i'd say "with potential if the manufacturer updates", or passable, but that is not good in it's state...
I like the linear rails, but what does it bring to the table here? why pay for linear rails for a bad print quality?
same for the good quality hotend, and the dual gear; what is the point if the extrusion is so inconsistant?
considering all what you said during the review, i expected the conclusion to be "it is a good printer for 300-350$ if you plan on tinkering with it, or use the parts to build your own printer"
If i compare with a MK3:
-the bed is smaller;
-it is slower;
-it prints considerably worse;
-it is unreliable;
-it is as expensive or more expensive;
-obviously smaller community to help you;
+it has linear rails although it does not improve print quality;
+the copperhead is cool on paper;
I really don't see why i'd want this machine?
Unless they say that the early firmware was faulty or something; as mechanically i don't see obvious mistakes.
I know that the single Z motor can cause problems with this type of design, but i hope they took it in consideration.
So Wuxn, please tell us that this was not representative of the quality to expect...
Joel didn't call the printer "good".
"I'll call it good for now" is a phrase often used to indicate that you've done enough on a particular topic.
@@pileofstuff ok, then i agree more. I felt like he was trying not to say too bad things about the machine ^^
@@AudreyRobinel he was saying that like he had beaten it to death enough.
Shouldn't the pool be turned by 90 degrees ? That would be more logical.
Germans are laughing about the product name :D
Sex sells, i guess, even if the name suggests to do it alone, to yourself...
Bought a second hand ender 3 for $150. It blows this thing out of the water in terms of print quality.
Not sure why they would send it out for review in that condition, it's not done their reputation any good at all.
Why ïs thërë a vowël mütätion (Umlaut) abovë thë w?
Dots are cool?
That’s their selling points.
I could not believe the price, give 3x Ender3's please
Ender 3 is still the one to get to me. It’s simple to work on and easy to upgrade and of course a big support community
Boulder or Fort Collins?
Is there a difference?
@@AdamMann3D totes
This WUXN or an Ender 3 pro?
Including some upgrades on that Ender 3 pro
Umm, why they charging a grand for an upgraded ender 3 with more bugs
Upgraded?