I vaguely remember him being a really good doctor when it comes to aliens (iirc, any humanoid race that we've seen in Futurama). Which would make humans one of the few species in the universe that he cannot treat. Which makes his career all the more ironic :D
As an American cashier, I just have to applaud Roberto's choice of weapon, because if you aren't robbing an independently owned gas station who's cashier is ready to defend his own money with a shotgun: a knife will accomplish everything a gun will during a robbery for a fraction of the cost, police interest, and potential jail time. Rob(erto) smarter not harder.
I'm assuming you aren't familiar with the phrase I used in my comment. Basically it means, if you're going to do something that matters to you, make sure you do it to the best of your abilities. In this case I'm saying that Roberto loves robbing people so he is doing it the best way possible which you just described. In short, I'm agreeing with you. @@tyrant-den884
Former grocery store cashier, was thankfully never robbed, but did have a customer pull a knife on another customer. Can confirm, was effective, though the Copa did get there fast enough to interview those involved. I forget the outcome but I dont actually think anyone was arrested somehow. . .
Our insanity threshold is both high and lower. The biggest difference that comes to mind in America is that a mental illness isn’t required. But I believe that it’s not just legally wrong, but ethically.
Recently read a book called The Three Christs of Ypsilanti which deals with someone who had three patients who all believed they were Jesus and got them to hang out together to see how they'd react. Probably horribly unethical but it was a long time ago.
@@kramerne86 Except that tropes are literary and the book the OP is referring to is an actual psychiatric case study about real people (who are named in the book because ethics were a lot squishier then).
Fun fact: you're more likely to win a slot machine that's closer to the casino door because it's programmed that way in order to lure in more potential gamblers.
"This here is Frankie. He's convinced he's a lunch room worker so they put him to work in the lunch room. HOW IS WORK AT THE LUNCH ROOM, FRANKIE?" Is aight "Poor Frankie..."
10:28 ooooooooh. So that's why therapists just gave me silent treatment when I was a "troubled teen". I just thought they were dismissive unprofessional quacks who didn't care. They sure succeeded in making me uncomfortable. And making me shut away even more. Oh well
I really liked how you brought up how being in the hospital can remove people from their protective factors and isn’t always therapeutic. I’ve been hospitalized many times and have seldom found it helpful, but look at it like as a necessary evil. It keeps you safe physically from yourself, but emotionally, it’s lonely and I feel worse in there. Sometimes there can be violence in there as well. I’ve been attacked twice in the hospital for no reason and it can be scary depending on what unit or hospital you are in. I suggest doing research on hospitals before you get to that point and have a plan with loved ones.
US Perspective : If you have to work 40-80 hours a week to put food on the table and you are barely getting by, you don't have time to see a psychiatrist or therapist & work with them to get on the right medication. If you make 60k in a large city even and you don't have a car and you rely on public transit, you may have to travel 1-2 hours with public transit. After Rent/food, you can't afford the luxury of a psychiatrist.
This is why general practitioners are writing psych meds. Because of limited availability and not enough care/resources. This also drives up cost. And the fact United healthcare is taking over the US healthcare system isn't good either.
I think another good futurama episode would either be “A Clone of My Own”, where Dr. Farnsworth has to face his own mortality and his clone has to decide if he’s ready follow in his footsteps; “Near-Death Wish” which deals with a lot of themes about aging and childhood trauma; or “Bendin’ in the Wind”, which deals with sudden disability and the idea of psychosomatic illness. I don’t think you have time to review “Bender’s Big Score” but the themes of isolation, depression, and such would be really interesting
He also robs the same bank three times. I suspect that that’s because of the saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results
@@matityaloran9157 But does he expect to not get caught because no one would expect him to rob the bank a third time? 🤔 Is there method in the madness? 😉
@@LordVolkov That’s a good question though he was canonically designed by a team of engineers who were trying to see if they could build an insane robot
I was under the impression that 'Stockholm Syndrome' came about after the captives saw their captors as the more reasonable people because the authorities put the captives in a dangerous situation, and that it is largely seen as something that doesn't happen that often in different circumstances.
I love the emergence of the wide variety of professionals of so many subjects coming to RUclips and using Pop-Culture from TV, Movies and Video-games to teach in a fun way, keep up the good work!
Having been through the mental health system in the USA, I always saw this episode as what the mental health system seems to demand of it's patients. For instance most of our councilors in my rural area come from other major cities. So we are told to totally change our dialect, how we speak when we speak. Though I can understand the reasoning behind it, I feel destroying a person's entire culture is a bit much to ask for in terms of care. Also in the USA if you are complicated with a drug addiction as well. (like just about everyone with a mental disorder) You will not be treated until you stop using. In my rural community this removes nearly all of our social safety nets at a time when we need them most. Trust me in a small town every church goer knows I'm a poor drug addict. AND if I remove myself from my friends and family, I ostracize myself from a flawed but ultimately helpful community. As they often put it "OH so you are better than us now?" further hurting an already ailing mind. I honestly felt not like a human but a robot by the end of it. With no one around me to relate to. I am still dealing with this aftermath. I see many nations don't follow the USA and UK system and thank God for it. But any suggestion in the USA of perhaps changing a few things is met with an honest to God religious rebuke. In the USA at least we are the best at everything, and every other nation is just Nazi's and Commies. Except the UK which we get most of our practices from. If you are severely depressed in the greatest nation to ever exist, then clearly you are the problem not the society we live in. Basically, everything is fine and it's only you. Many nations treat some mental disorders as a societal issue as a whole. This has been my Ted Talk. TY.
Mental health care is supposed to be culturally competent. Making someone change their dialect or accent would seem to go against that. Yeah, there’s lots of things about US health care that could improve.
The US is actual garbage, the only thing we're the best at is the propaganda that somehow convinced generations of our citizens that we are the best at everything. And yes, we have an abysmal relationship with mental health.
@catsmom129 Never once heard of anyone asked to change their dialect. That's not part of any process of evaluation, treatment, or participation in same.
I would love to see more futurama from you. Most of the episodes that would be interesting would be the Bender centric episodes, they gave him a lot of humanizing episodes.
Would like to know what you think of the ending, right after you cut off, where Fry sees his blood and realizes he’s a human. How likely is it that a vivid demonstration of a delusion’s falsity would “snap him out of it?”
I'd like to see Dr. E react to some of the episodes of M*A*S*H featuring Dr. Sidney Freedman. It might be interesting to get a modern take on psychiatric methods used on a show from the 70s that was set in the 50s.
Re: the ending - It's Futurama. Yeah, it really is that deep. They've made at least 2 of the top 10 saddest episodes in the history of television. Just because it's animated doesn't mean it can't be serious.
You should check out the show Community, there are plenty of psychology scenes in it. There is an entire episode about an experiment seeing how long it takes people to crack while being asked to wait. Then there is another episode where they deal with an autistic character going through a mental breakdown and experiencing delusions.
Found you channel by a suggestion from the suggestions list on the right of another channel. Glad I clicked on it. I look forward to checking out your other videos.
Dr. Zoidberg is actually a BRILLIANT doctor and surgeon... with every species other than humans. XD The inspiration was Dr. McCoy from the original Star Trek, as he was a human that was constantly dealing with the anatomy and physiology of countless non-human species. So he'd be naturally strong with human A&P, but might struggle or know nothing of non-humans. Dr. Zoidberg was created to be the exact opposite of McCoy, being great with everyone EXCEPT humans. ^_^
I've been in the psych ward over 30 times... Sometimes it was helpful, sometimes it was not and I was just faking getting better so I could leave. My last 2 times, this year, they were doing construction on the depressive side so everyone was all together, depressive, manic, and psychotic patients. It was really upsetting for someone who was just depressed. People were yelling, and had to be tackled and restrained a lot. They were muttering to themselves and yelling at you. It wasn't my first time on this side, but when I had been over there in the past I was also manic or psychotic so it didnt bother me. The nice thing is that they can change my meds faster than on the outside. Otherwise it's super boring.
10 times for me and ngl a lot of those time those admissions made a BIG impact because that's just what i need when i'm having an episode but yeah. There's definitely a lot of chaos for such boring places. But yeah, one time i remember being next door to a guy who couldn't speak English, was having a delusion, and just did not understand where he was or what was going on :/ i think every now and then about how terrifying that must've been.
Zoidberg is a doctor, he's just not a human doctor, he's an alien doctor both literally and as his occupation, its just that Planet Express hired him cause he and Farnsworth are good friends as much as the show doesn't wanna show it
In The Tip of the Zoidberg it's shown that Zoidberg actually is a competent doctor for pretty much every species except for humans(this is also shown in How the West was 1010001) and in the episode War is the H-Word the nurse said Zoidberg had twice the experience as the robot doctor (which was made into a joke, but the nurse was clearly serious). My best guess is that human anatomy is just different enough that he's bad at it kinda like how medical doctors shouldn't work on animals and Veterinarians can't work on people.
Have you reacted to Arsenic and Old Lace? Covers inherited metnal conditions, antisocial personality disorders, murderous delusions, and a guy who just thinks he's Teddy Roosevelt.
3:30 my favorite part of the show!! Because "Well, my memory is a little bit fuzzy" works in at least two levels… because memory type is "fuzzy logic"… but being my own memory issues I had a thought but I can't remember where I was going with half of it 😂😂
I do agree that IED requires more examination of triggers, but since I know a couple people who have been diagnosed with IED, I know that the focus isn't always on sedating the responses, but on finding an understanding of oneself and using the wisdom of the underlying triggers to regulate emotions contextually. Like "I may have a reason for blowing up, but after years of practice, I'm going to take a breath, think about if I'm actually angry at the people around me, and wait to release my stress elsewhere." And as someone with ASD, ADHD, and probably other shit, muttering isn't necessarily crazy. I often criticize myself under my breath or practice writing and re-writing scenes that I'll never put to paper because simply having a creative outlet that I don't have to permanilize and can be discarded after the moment helps relieve frustration I've heard that Stockholm Syndrome is better understood as part of the threat defense web of Fight, Flee, Freeze, Flop, Friend. Like, we try to appeal to people's better nature and develop a sincere care for them because we want to believe that we can snap them out of whatever is driving them to violence, simply because we believe that there must be something under our control, similar to how we believe we can control a threat by confronting it, control our autonomy by fleeing, control the aggression by going limp or failing to move. It's like, this specific thing isn't about falling in love, but something AKIN to it exists as self-preservation
Not sure if you react to video games, but I think it'd be interesting to see what you think of psychonauts. The games touch in mental health issues and the second game has helped me in my life to deal with my own panic attacks. Just a thought, literally just found your video today and you got me interested. Keep up the good work!
Loved your take on this! One thing I'm curious about your opinion on, because it's always been one of my favourite jokes in this episode: "This is Frankie. He's convinced he's a lunchroom worker, so they put him to work in the lunchroom. HOW'S WORK IN THE LUNCHROOM FRANKIE?" "It's alright." "Poor Frankie." In real world application, what's your take on this kind of... treatment? Management? Basically if someone's delusions (being a lunchroom worker) aren't harmful, and they can essentially be 'made true' so that the individual's delusional beliefs become reality, or at least can be treated as reality without any real conflict, is that the best course of action? Or would this be another way of brushing off the origins/causes of the original delusion? In other words, is Frankie the not-lunchroom worker being helped or harmed by being put to work in the lunchroom?
The specific example in the Futurama episode is silly of course, but it's pretty common for doctors to find ways to manage symptoms and improve the lives of their patients that aren't necessarily "curing" them. The main goal of many patients and doctors, after all, is not necessarily to make their diagnosis disappear, but to make their lives easier. There is one story I read years ago, that I think about all the time. A woman with intense anxiety hyper-fixated on her hair dryer. Every time she left the house she would be obsessively anxious about leaving her hair dryer on. Her psych's advice? Carry her hair dryer in her purse. Sure, some people thought she was odd for carrying a hair dryer everywhere, but it eliminated the thing that was causing her anxiety.
That reminds of body dysmorphia. If a man is not a woman, how does he know he is a woman? If women did not exist as a sex at all, would there even be men wanting to be women?
This joke always made me think of the many, many artists with some form of mental health issue, and the not at all clear border between "artist who also has mental health issues" and "cuckoo-pants mental patient who think they're an artist". And the fact that which one applies to any given person is 100% predicated on which label they got first. I guess poor Frankie got unlucky
The gibberish comment reminded me of the episode "The Pinky POV" from Pinky and the Brain. Seemingly disjointed concepts are connected through internal dialog.
More Futurama please!!!! The honey bee episode, the worms episode.... it could be a stretch but I swear there are so many episodes you could do. I just love watching your bewilderment at cartoon antics ❤
Oh, "Infinity Train" Chapter 1 might make for an interesting breakdown from a Psychology standpoint. Quite a bit of unpacking young Tulip does along the way.
As a neurodivergent person, i can see fry's experience as mirroring that of neurodivergent people who go through sometimes unnecessary forms of therapy like CBT
You should check out the show young royals. I am curious to see what you would think about the different illnesses in it. I would also be curious to see what you think about the movie whiplash and his drive to be perfect. I would also love to see your take on perks of being a wallflower.
Also would like you to look at the West Wing episode “Noel,” which deals with a gunshot victim’s PTSD and the issue of how people in government jobs get treatment.
That insanity threshold for law is designed to provide that avenue while preventing it from bein abused. Since mens rea is as important legally as actus reus, I'd say it's a pretty good standard. Ultimately it comes down to knowing, or more specifically being capable of knowing , it was a criminal act.
I recently knew an NHS nurse who developed cancer in one of her kidneys. During the operation to remove it, while under sedation she muttered something that worried doctors. She woke up from the operation in a mental ward and didn't escape for 3 months. During that time they forced her to take drugs that kept her in a perpetual state of suppression. We had to hire a lawyer to prove she was wrongly emitted, since she had no right to legal representation by herself.
"Stockholm syndrome" is something I've always seen described as a psychological defense where people form an attachment to their captors in order to make it easier to appease or create a rapport with them, thus increasing their chances of survival. Although there's now doubt about whether it exists at all because apparently in the incident for which the term was coined, the hostages seemed defensive of their captors and worked with them because they felt the police & other officials weren't doing all they could to ensure the captives' safety & in some cases actively put them in danger (unnecessarily escalating the situation, shooting at the captors while hostages were in the line of fire, telling the hostages it was their duty to die at their post), so the captives felt they had no option but to work with their captors to resolve the situation.
I've heard Stockholm Syndrome described as a Fight/Flight/Freeze/Friend response to danger, a sort of complex interaction with different parts of our social nature. Part empathy in response to perceived sympathy from one previously regarded as other and dangerous. I'll have to look into it more, see what the consensus is.
Similar to Polyamory, there is often a financial barrier to entry. A certain amount of security, money and free time is required to make it work successfully.
I understand it's necessary to restore the status quo for an episodic show, but I was kinda hoping you'd talk about how, when Fry sees he's bleeding, he realizes he is actually human, since that seems (from my layman's perspective) to run counter to the idea that one of the defining characteristics of a delusion is that evidence doesn't work to dispel it.
13:33 actually this isn’t a case of delusions- this is a specific medical example- there was an old medical and dental case that made international attention when a Woman began hearing voices - turned out her fillings in her teeth were picking up radio frequencies and vibrating - she was hearing sounds in her mouth and still hearing the sound in her ears (kind of like one of those bite and sing lollipops where you bite the stick and hear a song- or a singing toothbrush - your mouth acts as a sound chamber making vibrations sound louder even if it’s muffled or indistinguishable to others ears. But in her case it’s 24/7 public radio.) It was due to the specific kind of metal they had installed and the way they use to broadcast radio frequencies anyone with an antenna could tune it but she just had the right amount of metal. Her name was Lucille Ball!! The famous actress!! It was a case from the 1970’s and it was believed she heard spy radio frequencies along with regular programs. However there’s other cases of this happening around the same time frame of 1940-1970s (when ya dental work and history began to change a bit but there’s multiple recorded cases of regular people with this issue ) I believe it was also tested on mythbusters as plausible so the more ya know
You missed the part where fry is freed from his robo delusional stat but if you watch closely fry subconscious moves the oil can into his jacket it's a blink and you miss it moment wean puts it in there
I always wondered what sort of practicioner Dr. Smith from the original Lost in Space was supposed to be. Maybe they actually said at some point. I wasn’t a big fan of the show. I also did think of Dr.Nick but I think they make it pretty clear he’s *not* really a doctor so I figured it didn’t count.
A large part of my depression comes from not earning enough money to afford medicine or proper housing. What does the hospital do about that? They take me away from my source of income.
I'm physically disabled, legally blind, and have beenvdiagnos d with anxiety and depression a since 2012. I've never worked gainfully band have been on Disability since 2983 when I was 18. I'm not allowed a job, and if I get one, I will lose my SSI. THAT is insanity to me.
there is an episode of becker called Papa Does Preach where multiple personality disorder is portrayed, i would love to see you react to that specific episode(just a suggestion though) because obviously you reacting to tv shows where mental health is portrayed is very interesting, plus that becker episode isnt very new so it will be interesting if its good by the time zoidburg is the best doctor, he is so amusing, love futurama and this episode, Roberto is such an amusing character
He's also good at every kind of medicine except humans _at first;_ with ten years of study he can cure yeti-ism, reassemble humans, and perform nose transplants.
Your comment about challenging delusions makes me wonder if you've seen Instinct (late 90's movie with Anthony Hopkins and Cuba Gooding Jr). The main character is a psychiatrist, though I do think most of the movie isn't really about that, but the opening sequence shows a patient with a delusion that gets probed in an interesting way and I'd love your take. Also on some of the other side characters. Also would love your take on the character Amos in The Expanse.
My favorite tv doctor who isn't much of a doctor is doctor spaceman from 30 rock. You should definitely react to some episodes from that some time. I think you'd enjoy it
I was gonna say Krieger ! 1:47 tho if he count I'll also add M.Ludwig, The Medic from TF2 (it's a video game but they made an animated short, does it count ?)
Yes, Zoidberg IS a doctor, just not of =human= medicine. As to Variable Reinforcement Schedule: these days the kids call it 'RNG/praying to RNGesus', since loot rewards from bosses in many online games are decided based on a Random Number Generator. XD
My favorite counterfactual would be for incontrovertible evidence to arise for the definition of delusion being anything else, making it a fixed, false belief
No. The god Pan was associated with wilderness and, subsequently, the panic of being alone in a hostile environment. He was also associated with madness.
Ive been watching Legion recently so when you defining delusion I was thinking of John Hamm naration and eggs tbh (this makes sense if you’ve seen the show
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Dr. Zoidberg has a doctorate in art history. So technically, he is a doctor
I vaguely remember him being a really good doctor when it comes to aliens (iirc, any humanoid race that we've seen in Futurama). Which would make humans one of the few species in the universe that he cannot treat. Which makes his career all the more ironic :D
13:40 Bender’s “what, are you crazy?” in response to Fry wanting out of the asylum is brilliantly ironic
As an American cashier, I just have to applaud Roberto's choice of weapon, because if you aren't robbing an independently owned gas station who's cashier is ready to defend his own money with a shotgun: a knife will accomplish everything a gun will during a robbery for a fraction of the cost, police interest, and potential jail time.
Rob(erto) smarter not harder.
Anything worth doing is worth doing right. lol
@@supersizesenpaiwhat do you mean by that?
I'm assuming you aren't familiar with the phrase I used in my comment.
Basically it means, if you're going to do something that matters to you, make sure you do it to the best of your abilities. In this case I'm saying that Roberto loves robbing people so he is doing it the best way possible which you just described. In short, I'm agreeing with you. @@tyrant-den884
Former grocery store cashier, was thankfully never robbed, but did have a customer pull a knife on another customer. Can confirm, was effective, though the Copa did get there fast enough to interview those involved. I forget the outcome but I dont actually think anyone was arrested somehow. . .
Legally there’s not really much of a distinction unless you’re a person who can’t legally own guns, like a felon. A knife is still a deadly weapon.
Our insanity threshold is both high and lower.
The biggest difference that comes to mind in America is that a mental illness isn’t required. But I believe that it’s not just legally wrong, but ethically.
"chAAANGE PLACES!" is one of my favorite one-off Futurama bits.
Ooh, I forgot we changed places...
CHAAANGE PLACES!!
*crunching noises*
Same, lol
Recently read a book called The Three Christs of Ypsilanti which deals with someone who had three patients who all believed they were Jesus and got them to hang out together to see how they'd react. Probably horribly unethical but it was a long time ago.
Bird lawyer, Charlie, Unfrozen Caveman, Matlock, Atticus Finch, etc. a very old trope.
I'm sure there's a trinity joke in there somewhere.
@@kramerne86 Except that tropes are literary and the book the OP is referring to is an actual psychiatric case study about real people (who are named in the book because ethics were a lot squishier then).
Monty Python: "What in God's name possessed you to paint this with THREE Christs in it?!"
@@kramerne86- To clarify: The Three Christs of Ypsilanti is non-fiction.
Fun fact: you're more likely to win a slot machine that's closer to the casino door because it's programmed that way in order to lure in more potential gamblers.
"This here is Frankie. He's convinced he's a lunch room worker so they put him to work in the lunch room.
HOW IS WORK AT THE LUNCH ROOM, FRANKIE?"
Is aight
"Poor Frankie..."
I have to praise your commitment for taking an episode of Futurama completely seriously.
10:28 ooooooooh. So that's why therapists just gave me silent treatment when I was a "troubled teen". I just thought they were dismissive unprofessional quacks who didn't care.
They sure succeeded in making me uncomfortable. And making me shut away even more.
Oh well
Why not both?
I’ve been through the same thing. I’m not impressed with that particular technique.
And then when you do discuss what's wrong with you, you dismiss it and try to 'figure it out themselves'. Quacks, all of them. Every last one.
It has been stated in other episodes that Zoidberg is an excellent doctor.... As long as the patient isnt human
On the show “Squidbillies” their lottery scratch off tickets were called “Snowball’s Chance in Hell”
And “Piss it Away” 😂
I really liked how you brought up how being in the hospital can remove people from their protective factors and isn’t always therapeutic. I’ve been hospitalized many times and have seldom found it helpful, but look at it like as a necessary evil. It keeps you safe physically from yourself, but emotionally, it’s lonely and I feel worse in there. Sometimes there can be violence in there as well. I’ve been attacked twice in the hospital for no reason and it can be scary depending on what unit or hospital you are in. I suggest doing research on hospitals before you get to that point and have a plan with loved ones.
The Lawyer is supposed to be, at least in part, a reference to Atticus Finch from the book "To Kill a Mocking Bird."
"I thought you was corn" was one of my favorite pieces of dialog from TKAM 😊
"The arousal of uncertainty
The irresistible pull of variable schedule reward"
US Perspective : If you have to work 40-80 hours a week to put food on the table and you are barely getting by, you don't have time to see a psychiatrist or therapist & work with them to get on the right medication. If you make 60k in a large city even and you don't have a car and you rely on public transit, you may have to travel 1-2 hours with public transit. After Rent/food, you can't afford the luxury of a psychiatrist.
Let's not forget you need a doctor to even write you a referral. Which requires money, transportation, time, etc.
This is why general practitioners are writing psych meds. Because of limited availability and not enough care/resources. This also drives up cost. And the fact United healthcare is taking over the US healthcare system isn't good either.
Move out of the city
@@TraditionalHippie if I did it would cause me to spend more money and time getting help.
That's not a U.S. perspective, that's your perspective.
I think another good futurama episode would either be “A Clone of My Own”, where Dr. Farnsworth has to face his own mortality and his clone has to decide if he’s ready follow in his footsteps; “Near-Death Wish” which deals with a lot of themes about aging and childhood trauma; or “Bendin’ in the Wind”, which deals with sudden disability and the idea of psychosomatic illness.
I don’t think you have time to review “Bender’s Big Score” but the themes of isolation, depression, and such would be really interesting
"Hold still Red...I gotta practice my stabbin! Ha hiiah!"
Roberto is such a great character. Always love when he pops up to cause chaos.
He also robs the same bank three times. I suspect that that’s because of the saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results
@@matityaloran9157 But does he expect to not get caught because no one would expect him to rob the bank a third time? 🤔 Is there method in the madness? 😉
@@LordVolkov That’s a good question though he was canonically designed by a team of engineers who were trying to see if they could build an insane robot
I was under the impression that 'Stockholm Syndrome' came about after the captives saw their captors as the more reasonable people because the authorities put the captives in a dangerous situation, and that it is largely seen as something that doesn't happen that often in different circumstances.
Yes, but it's used more generally now to describe a hostage/abused bond with the hostage taker/abuser.
I love the emergence of the wide variety of professionals of so many subjects coming to RUclips and using Pop-Culture from TV, Movies and Video-games to teach in a fun way, keep up the good work!
Having been through the mental health system in the USA, I always saw this episode as what the mental health system seems to demand of it's patients. For instance most of our councilors in my rural area come from other major cities. So we are told to totally change our dialect, how we speak when we speak. Though I can understand the reasoning behind it, I feel destroying a person's entire culture is a bit much to ask for in terms of care. Also in the USA if you are complicated with a drug addiction as well. (like just about everyone with a mental disorder) You will not be treated until you stop using. In my rural community this removes nearly all of our social safety nets at a time when we need them most. Trust me in a small town every church goer knows I'm a poor drug addict. AND if I remove myself from my friends and family, I ostracize myself from a flawed but ultimately helpful community. As they often put it "OH so you are better than us now?" further hurting an already ailing mind. I honestly felt not like a human but a robot by the end of it. With no one around me to relate to. I am still dealing with this aftermath. I see many nations don't follow the USA and UK system and thank God for it. But any suggestion in the USA of perhaps changing a few things is met with an honest to God religious rebuke. In the USA at least we are the best at everything, and every other nation is just Nazi's and Commies. Except the UK which we get most of our practices from. If you are severely depressed in the greatest nation to ever exist, then clearly you are the problem not the society we live in. Basically, everything is fine and it's only you. Many nations treat some mental disorders as a societal issue as a whole. This has been my Ted Talk. TY.
Mental health care is supposed to be culturally competent. Making someone change their dialect or accent would seem to go against that. Yeah, there’s lots of things about US health care that could improve.
The US is actual garbage, the only thing we're the best at is the propaganda that somehow convinced generations of our citizens that we are the best at everything. And yes, we have an abysmal relationship with mental health.
@catsmom129 Never once heard of anyone asked to change their dialect. That's not part of any process of evaluation, treatment, or participation in same.
A great episode. "That's why that dog had to die. He's a dirty, dirty dog."
I would love to see more futurama from you. Most of the episodes that would be interesting would be the Bender centric episodes, they gave him a lot of humanizing episodes.
Would like to know what you think of the ending, right after you cut off, where Fry sees his blood and realizes he’s a human. How likely is it that a vivid demonstration of a delusion’s falsity would “snap him out of it?”
Yeah...
I was a bit peeved that he didn't see it through to the conclusion. I see no reason why this should have been omitted from the video.
I'd like to see Dr. E react to some of the episodes of M*A*S*H featuring Dr. Sidney Freedman.
It might be interesting to get a modern take on psychiatric methods used on a show from the 70s that was set in the 50s.
I would also LOVE to see this!
Re: the ending - It's Futurama. Yeah, it really is that deep. They've made at least 2 of the top 10 saddest episodes in the history of television.
Just because it's animated doesn't mean it can't be serious.
At least 4! Jurassic Bark, Luck of the Fryrish, The Sting, and the one whose name escapes me where he talks to his mom.
You should check out the show Community, there are plenty of psychology scenes in it. There is an entire episode about an experiment seeing how long it takes people to crack while being asked to wait. Then there is another episode where they deal with an autistic character going through a mental breakdown and experiencing delusions.
That one claymation Christmas special comes to mind
@@matthewgallaway3675 that was the second one I mentioned, Abed’s Uncontrollable Christmas.
Dr Krieger does, when someone says "He's not THAT kind of doctor" reply with "Not the other kind of doctor either"
Found you channel by a suggestion from the suggestions list on the right of another channel. Glad I clicked on it. I look forward to checking out your other videos.
Dr. Zoidberg is actually a BRILLIANT doctor and surgeon... with every species other than humans. XD The inspiration was Dr. McCoy from the original Star Trek, as he was a human that was constantly dealing with the anatomy and physiology of countless non-human species. So he'd be naturally strong with human A&P, but might struggle or know nothing of non-humans. Dr. Zoidberg was created to be the exact opposite of McCoy, being great with everyone EXCEPT humans. ^_^
I've been in the psych ward over 30 times... Sometimes it was helpful, sometimes it was not and I was just faking getting better so I could leave.
My last 2 times, this year, they were doing construction on the depressive side so everyone was all together, depressive, manic, and psychotic patients.
It was really upsetting for someone who was just depressed. People were yelling, and had to be tackled and restrained a lot. They were muttering to themselves and yelling at you.
It wasn't my first time on this side, but when I had been over there in the past I was also manic or psychotic so it didnt bother me.
The nice thing is that they can change my meds faster than on the outside. Otherwise it's super boring.
10 times for me and ngl a lot of those time those admissions made a BIG impact because that's just what i need when i'm having an episode but yeah. There's definitely a lot of chaos for such boring places. But yeah, one time i remember being next door to a guy who couldn't speak English, was having a delusion, and just did not understand where he was or what was going on :/ i think every now and then about how terrifying that must've been.
I genuinely appreciate you sharing your experiences.
We later learn Zoodberg is a doctor... in art history. 😂
Zoidberg is a doctor, he's just not a human doctor, he's an alien doctor both literally and as his occupation, its just that Planet Express hired him cause he and Farnsworth are good friends as much as the show doesn't wanna show it
Also, because of his lack of knowledge of human anatomy, Farnsworth can get away with paying him peanuts.
Pretty sure there is an episode where they show he has a doctorate in art history. So yes he is a doctor, just not a medical doctor.
Yep doctorate in art history.
In The Tip of the Zoidberg it's shown that Zoidberg actually is a competent doctor for pretty much every species except for humans(this is also shown in How the West was 1010001) and in the episode War is the H-Word the nurse said Zoidberg had twice the experience as the robot doctor (which was made into a joke, but the nurse was clearly serious). My best guess is that human anatomy is just different enough that he's bad at it kinda like how medical doctors shouldn't work on animals and Veterinarians can't work on people.
But also yeah the doctorate in art history is very true
Have you reacted to Arsenic and Old Lace?
Covers inherited metnal conditions, antisocial personality disorders, murderous delusions, and a guy who just thinks he's Teddy Roosevelt.
3:30 my favorite part of the show!! Because "Well, my memory is a little bit fuzzy" works in at least two levels… because memory type is "fuzzy logic"… but being my own memory issues I had a thought but I can't remember where I was going with half of it 😂😂
I do agree that IED requires more examination of triggers, but since I know a couple people who have been diagnosed with IED, I know that the focus isn't always on sedating the responses, but on finding an understanding of oneself and using the wisdom of the underlying triggers to regulate emotions contextually. Like "I may have a reason for blowing up, but after years of practice, I'm going to take a breath, think about if I'm actually angry at the people around me, and wait to release my stress elsewhere."
And as someone with ASD, ADHD, and probably other shit, muttering isn't necessarily crazy. I often criticize myself under my breath or practice writing and re-writing scenes that I'll never put to paper because simply having a creative outlet that I don't have to permanilize and can be discarded after the moment helps relieve frustration
I've heard that Stockholm Syndrome is better understood as part of the threat defense web of Fight, Flee, Freeze, Flop, Friend. Like, we try to appeal to people's better nature and develop a sincere care for them because we want to believe that we can snap them out of whatever is driving them to violence, simply because we believe that there must be something under our control, similar to how we believe we can control a threat by confronting it, control our autonomy by fleeing, control the aggression by going limp or failing to move. It's like, this specific thing isn't about falling in love, but something AKIN to it exists as self-preservation
Not sure if you react to video games, but I think it'd be interesting to see what you think of psychonauts. The games touch in mental health issues and the second game has helped me in my life to deal with my own panic attacks. Just a thought, literally just found your video today and you got me interested. Keep up the good work!
BEST GAME EVER! No contest.
It was made with help from psychiatrists
Loved your take on this! One thing I'm curious about your opinion on, because it's always been one of my favourite jokes in this episode:
"This is Frankie. He's convinced he's a lunchroom worker, so they put him to work in the lunchroom. HOW'S WORK IN THE LUNCHROOM FRANKIE?"
"It's alright."
"Poor Frankie."
In real world application, what's your take on this kind of... treatment? Management? Basically if someone's delusions (being a lunchroom worker) aren't harmful, and they can essentially be 'made true' so that the individual's delusional beliefs become reality, or at least can be treated as reality without any real conflict, is that the best course of action? Or would this be another way of brushing off the origins/causes of the original delusion?
In other words, is Frankie the not-lunchroom worker being helped or harmed by being put to work in the lunchroom?
The specific example in the Futurama episode is silly of course, but it's pretty common for doctors to find ways to manage symptoms and improve the lives of their patients that aren't necessarily "curing" them. The main goal of many patients and doctors, after all, is not necessarily to make their diagnosis disappear, but to make their lives easier.
There is one story I read years ago, that I think about all the time. A woman with intense anxiety hyper-fixated on her hair dryer. Every time she left the house she would be obsessively anxious about leaving her hair dryer on. Her psych's advice? Carry her hair dryer in her purse. Sure, some people thought she was odd for carrying a hair dryer everywhere, but it eliminated the thing that was causing her anxiety.
That reminds of body dysmorphia. If a man is not a woman, how does he know he is a woman? If women did not exist as a sex at all, would there even be men wanting to be women?
This joke always made me think of the many, many artists with some form of mental health issue, and the not at all clear border between "artist who also has mental health issues" and "cuckoo-pants mental patient who think they're an artist". And the fact that which one applies to any given person is 100% predicated on which label they got first. I guess poor Frankie got unlucky
Thing is, Frankie is a robot. Robots are made with a purpose in mind. He wasn't constructed to be a kitchen worker. That's very differentfrom humans.
I think my favorite “Is he really a doctor” character is Dr. Spacemen from 30 Rock.
“I’ll just remember that it’s the opposite of what the form says.”
Favorite TV “doctor”: Dr Spaceman from 30 Rock
"Young lady I'm an expert on humans"
My favourite TV quack Dr is Daniel Radcliffe/John Hamm's character in A Young Doctor's Notebook
The gibberish comment reminded me of the episode "The Pinky POV" from Pinky and the Brain. Seemingly disjointed concepts are connected through internal dialog.
More Futurama please!!!! The honey bee episode, the worms episode.... it could be a stretch but I swear there are so many episodes you could do. I just love watching your bewilderment at cartoon antics ❤
Oh no, not The Sting 😢 so sad
The Sting made me cry. Parasites Lost is freaking hilarious.
Oh, "Infinity Train" Chapter 1 might make for an interesting breakdown from a Psychology standpoint. Quite a bit of unpacking young Tulip does along the way.
Zoidberg is a real doctor, but at one point he mentions: "My doctorate is in artistry."
is the yellow lego person missing?
Dude, you should look up Tuca & Bertie season 2, has a lot of sort of mental health topics that could be a good fit for you to view.
you should see "the amazing digital circus" see how you analyze each of the characters in it
I loved this video! If you react to Futurama again, "The Sting" may be a great starting point!
As a neurodivergent person, i can see fry's experience as mirroring that of neurodivergent people who go through sometimes unnecessary forms of therapy like CBT
Zoidberg is a doctor just not for humans
And specializes in, not humans.
Always learning and laughing at your videos Doc! 😂
"The Sting" would be another good Futurama episode to analyze.
Dr Spaceman from 30 Rock is probably my favorite...umm...questionable fictional doctor 😂
You should check out the show young royals. I am curious to see what you would think about the different illnesses in it. I would also be curious to see what you think about the movie whiplash and his drive to be perfect. I would also love to see your take on perks of being a wallflower.
I recommend to analyze Fry and Laurie, psychiatrist. It's funny, but also accurate, I think.
What was the technical term for what Fry was experiencing at the end? He wasn't delusional at first, they convinced him he was.
Also would like you to look at the West Wing episode “Noel,” which deals with a gunshot victim’s PTSD and the issue of how people in government jobs get treatment.
That insanity threshold for law is designed to provide that avenue while preventing it from bein abused. Since mens rea is as important legally as actus reus, I'd say it's a pretty good standard. Ultimately it comes down to knowing, or more specifically being capable of knowing , it was a criminal act.
1:24 His doctorate is in Art History
I recently knew an NHS nurse who developed cancer in one of her kidneys. During the operation to remove it, while under sedation she muttered something that worried doctors. She woke up from the operation in a mental ward and didn't escape for 3 months. During that time they forced her to take drugs that kept her in a perpetual state of suppression. We had to hire a lawyer to prove she was wrongly emitted, since she had no right to legal representation by herself.
to be fair, zoidbergs doctorate is in art history
This was very good analysis. I liked the video. It's interesting how you see topics from a single joke.
I think as a therapist, he would have a field day analyzing and reacting to Doom Patrol.
Very good point at the end :) The video as a whole was good.
"Stockholm syndrome" is something I've always seen described as a psychological defense where people form an attachment to their captors in order to make it easier to appease or create a rapport with them, thus increasing their chances of survival. Although there's now doubt about whether it exists at all because apparently in the incident for which the term was coined, the hostages seemed defensive of their captors and worked with them because they felt the police & other officials weren't doing all they could to ensure the captives' safety & in some cases actively put them in danger (unnecessarily escalating the situation, shooting at the captors while hostages were in the line of fire, telling the hostages it was their duty to die at their post), so the captives felt they had no option but to work with their captors to resolve the situation.
I've heard Stockholm Syndrome described as a Fight/Flight/Freeze/Friend response to danger, a sort of complex interaction with different parts of our social nature. Part empathy in response to perceived sympathy from one previously regarded as other and dangerous. I'll have to look into it more, see what the consensus is.
Excellent review of the episode. :)
That van was called the Lobotomobile btw lol
Similar to Polyamory, there is often a financial barrier to entry. A certain amount of security, money and free time is required to make it work successfully.
The first-person trans-orbital lobotomy in Bioshock Infinite: Burial At Sea is one of the most hardcore things I've ever seen in a video game
I used to clench my teeth tight when I slept. It even took me 15 minutes after waking up to realize I was still clenching my teeth really tight.
Futurama is one of my favorite shows. I watched the entire series like a dosen times.
I understand it's necessary to restore the status quo for an episodic show, but I was kinda hoping you'd talk about how, when Fry sees he's bleeding, he realizes he is actually human, since that seems (from my layman's perspective) to run counter to the idea that one of the defining characteristics of a delusion is that evidence doesn't work to dispel it.
I didn't know I'd be learning so much today. Thx doc
13:33 actually this isn’t a case of delusions- this is a specific medical example-
there was an old medical and dental case that made international attention when a Woman began hearing voices -
turned out her fillings in her teeth were picking up radio frequencies and vibrating - she was hearing sounds in her mouth and still hearing the sound in her ears (kind of like one of those bite and sing lollipops where you bite the stick and hear a song- or a singing toothbrush - your mouth acts as a sound chamber making vibrations sound louder even if it’s muffled or indistinguishable to others ears. But in her case it’s 24/7 public radio.)
It was due to the specific kind of metal they had installed and the way they use to broadcast radio frequencies anyone with an antenna could tune it but she just had the right amount of metal.
Her name was Lucille Ball!! The famous actress!! It was a case from the 1970’s and it was believed she heard spy radio frequencies along with regular programs. However there’s other cases of this happening around the same time frame of 1940-1970s (when ya dental work and history began to change a bit but there’s multiple recorded cases of regular people with this issue )
I believe it was also tested on mythbusters as plausible so the more ya know
You missed the part where fry is freed from his robo delusional stat but if you watch closely fry subconscious moves the oil can into his jacket it's a blink and you miss it moment wean puts it in there
14:55 gibberish translator ... I wonder how he will react on AESOP Rock - shrunk
I always wondered what sort of practicioner Dr. Smith from the original Lost in Space was supposed to be.
Maybe they actually said at some point. I wasn’t a big fan of the show. I also did think of Dr.Nick but I think they make it pretty clear he’s *not* really a doctor so I figured it didn’t count.
In one of the episodes Zoidberg said he has a doctorate in Art History so he is a real doctor just not a medical one
A large part of my depression comes from not earning enough money to afford medicine or proper housing. What does the hospital do about that? They take me away from my source of income.
I'm physically disabled, legally blind, and have beenvdiagnos d with anxiety and depression a since 2012. I've never worked gainfully band have been on Disability since 2983 when I was 18. I'm not allowed a job, and if I get one, I will lose my SSI. THAT is insanity to me.
I have trouble holding a job due to my high functioning autism. Currently scraping by as a FedEx Ground package handler.
Zodberd is a damn good alien doctor not a human one
there is an episode of becker called Papa Does Preach where multiple personality disorder is portrayed, i would love to see you react to that specific episode(just a suggestion though) because obviously you reacting to tv shows where mental health is portrayed is very interesting, plus that becker episode isnt very new so it will be interesting if its good by the time
zoidburg is the best doctor, he is so amusing, love futurama and this episode, Roberto is such an amusing character
He's also good at every kind of medicine except humans _at first;_ with ten years of study he can cure yeti-ism, reassemble humans, and perform nose transplants.
that is a good point i completely forgot about tbh@@tyrant-den884
Your comment about challenging delusions makes me wonder if you've seen Instinct (late 90's movie with Anthony Hopkins and Cuba Gooding Jr). The main character is a psychiatrist, though I do think most of the movie isn't really about that, but the opening sequence shows a patient with a delusion that gets probed in an interesting way and I'd love your take. Also on some of the other side characters.
Also would love your take on the character Amos in The Expanse.
My favorite tv doctor who isn't much of a doctor is doctor spaceman from 30 rock. You should definitely react to some episodes from that some time. I think you'd enjoy it
Would love a reaction to the Family Ties two part My Name is Alex. I know it's older but it's one of my favorite TV psychiatrist episodes of anything.
I was gonna say Krieger ! 1:47
tho if he count I'll also add M.Ludwig, The Medic from TF2 (it's a video game but they made an animated short, does it count ?)
Dr. Hartman’s pretty good
Yes, Zoidberg IS a doctor, just not of =human= medicine. As to Variable Reinforcement Schedule: these days the kids call it 'RNG/praying to RNGesus', since loot rewards from bosses in many online games are decided based on a Random Number Generator. XD
My favorite counterfactual would be for incontrovertible evidence to arise for the definition of delusion being anything else, making it a fixed, false belief
3:00 - I read in the novel American Psycho that the word Panic comes from the emperor Pan causing terror to the inhabitants. Is it true?
No. The god Pan was associated with wilderness and, subsequently, the panic of being alone in a hostile environment. He was also associated with madness.
In a mental hospital at CAMH in Toronto, Canada, the only therapy was medication and challenging delusions
I love how you could even tell us something about the teeth joke
Well I googled that, teeth are not even in the top ten.
Remember, just because you're right doesn't mean you're not crazy.
What is that picture behind Dr. Elliott of the 3 women?
"Pleased to meet you"..."The pleasure is all mine"..."WHAT?!"
Ive been watching Legion recently so when you defining delusion I was thinking of John Hamm naration and eggs tbh (this makes sense if you’ve seen the show
We demand an answer, where's the yellow man?