The hick from French lick will always be the greatest Small Forward for me. He had all the fundamentals in the bag. Duncan was looked at as Mr. Fundamental, but that’s a nickname more suited for Bird in my opinion.
I'd say it's more fitting for Timmy because he never broke away from the fundamentals. Bird would put on a show if he didn't feel challenged enough. He was incredibly fundamentally sound though.
Larry Bird was the first player we’ve ever seen that had everything that we love about basketball. Before Larry Legend, there were plenty of players that were unique for one or two specific skill(s). Scoring, Steals, Rebounding, Dynamic Foot Work, Handles, Blocks, etc. Sure, there were lots of GREATS before Larry Bird and many after - but in my humblest of opinions, #33 was pretty much the first guy that was this devastatingly versatile ANYWHERE on the court until Michael Jordan.
Larry Bird was greater than Jokic, Curry, Durant, Kawhi, and * *Klutches pearls* * Lebron James. Magic and Mama's driveway were the only things stopping him from top 3~5 all-time career.
Bird was a Top-3 complete offensive maestro. Jordan, Bird, Magic. Then I favor bigs Hakeem, Kareem, shooters Curry, KD, Jokic a lesser Bird. Shaq, Wilt, Lebronze = force of nature.
Scary thing was Larry in the year before he joined Celtics injured his shooting hand and said that after the injury his feel of the ball never fully recovered. So his entire NBA career it can be argued he was not at full strength and yet I cant help but think he might have potentially been even greater than MJ had he never gotten injured. I acknowledge that MJ is the goat, but Larry Legend will always be my favorite player of all time for that sheer tenacity and basketball IQ
@27:19 I beg to differ! Jordan did NOT start taking the torch in 84!!! He NEVER got past the Celtics while Larry was around, and He didn’t get his first ring until the END of the decade against Magic! The 90s were Jordan’s era!
larry easily top 5. dudes court IQ was off the charts. Look at the turns over in success as soon as he landed in boston. He made magic a better player, magic made him a better player, that era was just gold
Bro because of this video I changed my top 5 list 1 MJ 2 Kobe 3 Kareem 4 Magic/ Bird 5 Pippen Bro as always you have a great night 🍻🍻🍻 bless you brother
25:05 Ya know, I watch a lot of these Larry Bird videos as he's arguably my all time fav non-Knicks player, and I especially watch vids like this,,i.e. reaction videos. And I cannot fathom how many of these people that react to THIS spot DON'T instantly see his FRIGGIN HEAD BANG off the hardwood! Sure, they acknowledge the hustle and stuff, but as far as the reaction vids that I WATCH, I'd say way less than half the time they'll realize just what a hard shot that was----- and even worse, they don't understand the weight of his returning to the game after that as a result!
@TheRealMindCrime I was late to gym in high school once, had to play 3 on 3 on a side hoop that bordered a brick wall, with the kids who hated gym.. I went for a steal, hard loke that, hit that brick wall at like 85% of "full blast," had a 2 hump lump behind my left ear and sprained my left thumb (I'm a lefty) for the 1st and only time cuz I instinctively tried to brace myself, and I bent a dang THUMB thaaaaaat far back to need a soft cast for 7-10 days via that sprain... and I needed that left hand for the ultimate thing at 15 years old and I Def don't mean writing notes in class hahaha
I think he broke his orbital bone after his face smacked the floor in a game. He he had to go to the locker room to get it checked out to see it nasty. Then the other team started to come back late. Larry said hold my beer, put on his warm-up jacket and jogged back onto the court with a broken orbital Bone and won the game. I don't think it was even a playoff game. And yet he still gave that kind of effort. You can say MJ's the goat and I won't challenge it. You can say Larry Byrd is the goat and I won't challenge it. But if you think any player today is better than Larry Bird was in his prime, probably a "fake king" fan. My all-time basketball list is very fluid but I know my starting five are Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Tim Duncan.
He squeezed everything out of those 13 years. That’s actually a very full professional career. Barry Sanders is my favorite running back but I think of Terrel Davis as up there even though he only played for about 7 or 8 years.
"If you put Magic over Larry, it's because Magic did..." Nah. I'm man enough to admit that I put Magic over Larry because I'm a petty Laker fan who'll always find a dumb justification. How you think I demoted MJ to number 2?
Larry Bird was my guy. He's 2nd behind MJ. He's the best Forward ever to play the game. The one really important thing that was only briefly touched on in this video was Birds insane trash talk, psychological mind games and telling his opponents exactly what he was going to do, how he was going to do it, and then execute time and time again. Magic was right, there will never ever ever be, another Larry Bird.
Bird top 5 for life, Mount Rushmore Bird, Magic, Jordan.......Steph. yes Steph, game evolvers and chargers I had wilt before Steph because wilt "The Stilt" made the league move the rim from 8ft to 10ft they had to widen free throw line blocks etc all for wilt but Steph made the game so we all gotta a shot if we shoot. Great video Larry in today's game 🤦🤦🍿👀
This was a great video! I 100% thought that shot against the Lakers was going in. I have Jordan as the GOAT obviously, but after this video if people say Larry is the GOAT I won't argue. All this and he didn't even talk about Bird playing through excruciating back pain in the Olympics as someone who has had just a thrown out back at times and knowing how immobile you are so the fact that he was out there and not just playing but playing at a top level nothing but respect for him and the gaul of JJ Ledicklick to say "I think Larry Bird is super overrated"
I flip flop between Jordan and Bird. Jordan was just majestic in every way. The most impressive thing about Bird to me is he came into the league ready to win. In 81 he won the chip with no Michale, no parish. No dj, no ainge. He took a 29 win team and with just his addition, it went to 62 wins.
I have Bird in my top 3. I’ve watched ball since 1980 and I’ve seen countless of players and he’s up there. Yes that would make him the best SF ever. Over LeBron and KD.
This is like sittin' on the couch with a buddy and watching basketball videos. Clayton already has five or so clicks from me, but we're also discussing it through ;-) And today you even have my special dish (Larry is in my top1) on the BBQ. My favorite Larry Bird story: He didn't see color. You either could play, or you couldn't. Larry had a big six in '86, but before that he was the guy who made a 23(I'm guessing here) to a 60 win team. And I have to disagree on that one tiny thing: MJ didn't match Larry's clutch skills, he came close, but nobody ever did. Larry just did it too often to be remembered as special. The goat SF to this day. At least.
If you ever wanna accuse Larry Bird of being a little disrespectful, it's the move he did on 15:21 where he faked a pass over the defender's head. On the other hand, that move is just plain hilarious...🤣
I sadly think of Lamebeer when I think of the Bad Boy Pistons. He doesn't deserve it! I just disliked him so much it trumps the respect I have for IT and Joe D. Blasphemy!
I actually have bird at number 3 after MJ and kareem. He was just out of this world. The best forward passer, the best small forward rebounder with over 10 per game, a killer sniper, leader and clutch
Simply, Larry Legend was THAT GOOD- Highest basketball IQ by far, ever on the court- If his body would have held up, there'd be no argument... Toughest, smartest, clutchest MFR ever on the court- He's 1 or 2....Mike's 1 or 2... Love this channel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have bird only below mj, kareem, bill, magic respectively. he's arguably the greatest forward to ever play the sport, a true savant and a leader of men
Great point about Dumars, also Rodman needs his credit. That was like the Lakers and Celtics homegrown superteams, which is ok. OKC had that and fucked it up
12:40 Yeah I honestly think of Isiah Thomas and Bill first when I think of the Bad Boy Pistons too. XD Just personally I’m on that side of it. XD 14:25 Duuuuuuude that is my top 4 too. Literally exactly like you said.
I have Magic as my #2 PG of all time, Slightly behind Steve Nash !!! Hers my top 10. ( I use rings & mvps as tie breaker only) My Criteria= Rules played by Or Enforced , all around skill, makes others better, heart & competiveness. #10 Pete Maravich #9 Magic Johnson #8 Hakeem Olaujuan #7 Steve Nash #6Tim Duncan #5 Kobe #4 David Robinson #3 Kareem #1b MJ #1a Bird
My Blazersctook Clays Dad Mychel Thompson #1 before Bird . I gotta go Cry myself too sleep. A warm up to passinv up Jordan in 84. Glad we didnt take Durant in 07. The locker room would still Smell like Tuna.
Before , he didn't play long enough due to back injuries to be Goat , pretty sure Bird would say MJ is the goat but yeah it really does suck that he and Magic's career's got cut short. Bird is up there with players that seemed to play better when needed , sounds simple enough but it's what makes the greats great.
Bird is my 🐐 but Jordan is Goat all time for me .. Bird wasn't fast but if you watch his games he moves his feet like a PG and is always moving without the ball.
When i think of the bad boy pistons, i don't know how the prince of darkness bill laimbeer. He embodied being bad. He reveled in being hated. Joe wasn't dirty. Laimbeer was dirty af
I hate when folks enter the discussion with "my pick has more rings". Rings are a team stat and have zero relevance in the "best player" argument. No player has ever won a championship single-handedly. A shit player can sit on the bench all season and still get a ring. A phenomenal player can play every game for years, at an elite level, and still never get one.
He doesn't get enough credit period. He's the plumber they all talk about now not realizing Bird would school guys 6'10" now because he played every play. Never took one off. Flop was great but Bird would pick his pocket and grab boards in his face so much then talk mad shit right to his face. He couldn't handle prime Bird, let's be real
How do you watch this, even these few highlights compared to Bird’s career and say this current era is better? Bird is number 3-4 and swaps odd days with Magic. Kareem has a solid case for 5 but so do a few guys. The Ghost in Chicago remains alone at the top.
When I think of the Bad Boys I think of Bill Laimbeer. Dirtiest player I've ever seen, and apparently he's the only player Bird won't talk to, even to this day. And Bird is cool with everyone since he retired.
Starting 5 that beats all others. Hakeem at 5 Duncan at 4 Bird at 3 Jordan at 2 and Payton at 1. That level of defense gets rid of the they can't shoot 3's bs. Curry wouldn't get a good shot off on GP in their primes. Fight me, that's mine
@@TheRealMindCrime what boxes? as a players he basc checks all of them. he’s one of the best scorers n playmakers ever. he has the 2nd best peak ever. he has the greatest longevity. in his prime he was a very elite defender. i could keep going but overall at worst he’s 2nd, he even has a case to b the goat atp.
I'm not a fan of this looking up to someone who 'looks like me'. The first problem is, that it is sort of a collectivistic stance. Secondly, just because someone has a similar melanin density, doesn't really mean they must be the player that one associates with. Michael Jordan looks nothing like me, and I looked up to him. Tracy McGrady doesn't look anything like me, but I looked up to him. Secondly, what does it even mean to look like you? Larry Bird might be close in hue to me, but I'm not blond or blue eyed, not to mention he is a few inches taller than me. So, does he really look like me? I'm left-handed, so should I be looking up to other left-handers? I'm of Czech/Bulgarian origin, so should I be looking up to players who are of Czech/Bulgarian origin (Jan Havlicek being of Czech descent comes to mind)? It all gets convoluted and, in the end, it's a racially collectivistic outlook, and I am an individualist and judge people based on their individual characteristics. I like Larry Bird because he was an incredible basketball player and not because he was White.
I'm Sorry But Your 4 Ahead Of Bird, None Of Then Were Great Ay Everything Like Bird Was, Bird Is Still To This Day The Best All Around Player. Also NO One & Even To This Day Had An Higher IQ On The Floor , It's Not Even Close. And When You Bring Up Stef OR LeFlop, Thats Just Dumb. Really How Good Do You Think Those Two Would Have Been OR Lasted Playing In The 80's. In The 80's They Never Would Hardly Get By Defenders The Way They Do Now Running To The Rim. It's Like Each Of Team Take Turn's Running To The Rim And NO One Can Touch Or Stop Them. And The Ridiculous Spacing And Everyone Hitting A 3-Point. So In Other Words They Are Playing A 3-Point & Dunking Contest, And Everyone Gets A Turn & NO One On The Other Team Can't Try To Stop Them. And No Has To Use IQ-Mind & Try To Out Wit Anyone. I'll Be So Glad When The NBA Ends Because They Don't Have To Play Hard Grit BB Anymore. And Really Bird Had A Long Decent Career. Players Back Then Usually Only Had A 10 To 14 Year Career On Average. Players Back Then Played In More Games Then The Softy Ones Today. And They Played A Lot More Minutes In A Game Then They Do Today. I Don't How Anyone Can Stand To Watch These Games Into Today Standards It's BORING As H*ll. I Do Love When Young People Watch Full Games Of Yester Year & Then They See What A Puzzy Way The Game Has Become.
I don’t wanna sound like a hater but to me Larry doesn’t seem that great he had a bunch of hall of famers and only won two which is impressive, but I don’t think he is my top 5 I do think he is top ten, but idk I didn’t watch so I can’t say anything.
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I definitely have Larry Bird in my top 5 all-time list and his greatness speaks for itself
Same
100%
Larry Legend is in my top 5 too bro. I will never forget the commericals with Larry Bird and MJ just classics
Oh those McDonald's commercials were thr best!
Cedric Maxwell got lucky in 81 MVP
Agreed.
LARRY LEGEND IS A UNICORN AND THE TRUE GOAT!!! 🐐 ☘️
The hick from French lick will always be the greatest Small Forward for me.
He had all the fundamentals in the bag. Duncan was looked at as Mr. Fundamental, but that’s a nickname more suited for Bird in my opinion.
I'd say it's more fitting for Timmy because he never broke away from the fundamentals. Bird would put on a show if he didn't feel challenged enough. He was incredibly fundamentally sound though.
Bird was Mr. fundamental, mr. dirty work, floor general, and a stone cold killer. I think Larry Legend was the right choice.
Larry definitely had some flash in his playstyle, especially his passing
Larry Bird was the first player we’ve ever seen that had everything that we love about basketball. Before Larry Legend, there were plenty of players that were unique for one or two specific skill(s). Scoring, Steals, Rebounding, Dynamic Foot Work, Handles, Blocks, etc.
Sure, there were lots of GREATS before Larry Bird and many after - but in my humblest of opinions, #33 was pretty much the first guy that was this devastatingly versatile ANYWHERE on the court until Michael Jordan.
agreed!
Larry Bird was greater than Jokic, Curry, Durant, Kawhi, and * *Klutches pearls* * Lebron James. Magic and Mama's driveway were the only things stopping him from top 3~5 all-time career.
I like Joker a lot....like Magic Bird (not Larry Johnson) 😂
Bird was a Top-3 complete offensive maestro. Jordan, Bird, Magic. Then I favor bigs Hakeem, Kareem, shooters Curry, KD, Jokic a lesser Bird. Shaq, Wilt, Lebronze = force of nature.
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If Curry had 6 more inches 😮 he’d a Bird it!
12:40 The reason he mention Laimbeer was because Larry Bird hates Bill lmao. Secret Base did a good video on their beef
Laimbeer is also more iconic as a bad boy. He was genuinely hated. Joe was on the team, but was considered to be a respectable opponent
yeah he hates Bill lol
Scary thing was Larry in the year before he joined Celtics injured his shooting hand and said that after the injury his feel of the ball never fully recovered. So his entire NBA career it can be argued he was not at full strength and yet I cant help but think he might have potentially been even greater than MJ had he never gotten injured. I acknowledge that MJ is the goat, but Larry Legend will always be my favorite player of all time for that sheer tenacity and basketball IQ
Technically he is a Goat. Goat small forward. Shoots better than Lebron better post game. Better rebounder. Passing is even pretty close.
Bird definitely has passing over Lbum. The only thing Lbum has over Bird is athleticism. But that doesn't really amount to much
Goat small forward 100%
@27:19 I beg to differ! Jordan did NOT start taking the torch in 84!!! He NEVER got past the Celtics while Larry was around, and He didn’t get his first ring until the END of the decade against Magic!
The 90s were Jordan’s era!
Since 1979-80 when I began watching hoops it’s Magic, Jordan, Bird, Duncan and Dream with 6th man Kobe
Another video when needed the most my friend...play on player ..play on.
thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed this one too!
larry easily top 5. dudes court IQ was off the charts. Look at the turns over in success as soon as he landed in boston. He made magic a better player, magic made him a better player, that era was just gold
Yup. Larry is tied for 3 with magic for my list
Definitely Dumars and Rodman but Laimbeer was the catalyst along with Thomas for the dirty bad boys era
Larry Legend!
that's my dawwwwg!
Bro because of this video I changed my top 5 list
1 MJ
2 Kobe
3 Kareem
4 Magic/ Bird
5 Pippen
Bro as always you have a great night 🍻🍻🍻 bless you brother
@@mhf1979 with all due respect, get Pippen TF outta there for, IDK, Russell, Shaq, Hakeem, Curry, Wilt
@@ImportAl hmmm everyone top list will be different my top list won’t be the same as yours. Even those is not in my list I do respect their play. 😉
nice! Yeah Bird and Magic deserve it!
Larry legend
Legend!
25:05
Ya know, I watch a lot of these Larry Bird videos as he's arguably my all time fav non-Knicks player, and I especially watch vids like this,,i.e. reaction videos.
And I cannot fathom how many of these people that react to THIS spot DON'T instantly see his FRIGGIN HEAD BANG off the hardwood!
Sure, they acknowledge the hustle and stuff, but as far as the reaction vids that I WATCH, I'd say way less than half the time they'll realize just what a hard shot that was----- and even worse, they don't understand the weight of his returning to the game after that as a result!
yeah I think that's cuz most people haven't dove for a ball on the hardwood before lol. If you know.....you remember that feeling
@TheRealMindCrime I was late to gym in high school once, had to play 3 on 3 on a side hoop that bordered a brick wall, with the kids who hated gym.. I went for a steal, hard loke that, hit that brick wall at like 85% of "full blast," had a 2 hump lump behind my left ear and sprained my left thumb (I'm a lefty) for the 1st and only time cuz I instinctively tried to brace myself, and I bent a dang THUMB thaaaaaat far back to need a soft cast for 7-10 days via that sprain...
and I needed that left hand for the ultimate thing at 15 years old and I Def don't mean writing notes in class hahaha
I have been waiting for this one! My favorite one of the series, although he is my all time favorite.
Totally respect that. Bird doesn't get enough love anymore
17:09
THAT is also a phenomenal "stat"
I mean,,that's just a guy that FULLY KNOWS & UNDERSTANDS the sport, in all facets
for sure
everybody can be in the goat conversation, but there is only one Larry Legend
I think he broke his orbital bone after his face smacked the floor in a game. He he had to go to the locker room to get it checked out to see it nasty. Then the other team started to come back late. Larry said hold my beer, put on his warm-up jacket and jogged back onto the court with a broken orbital Bone and won the game. I don't think it was even a playoff game. And yet he still gave that kind of effort. You can say MJ's the goat and I won't challenge it. You can say Larry Byrd is the goat and I won't challenge it. But if you think any player today is better than Larry Bird was in his prime, probably a "fake king" fan. My all-time basketball list is very fluid but I know my starting five are Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Tim Duncan.
yeah he was that old school tough
When Bird left Bob Knight and the Hoosiers of Indiana and returned to school at Indiana State, he promised his mother he’d graduate. ❤
I grew up in New England so Bird is my all time favorite. Agree on Dumars as well, but Boston thinks of Lambeir first because of the dislike
oh for sure if I lived out there I'd have every Bird jersey ever lol
He squeezed everything out of those 13 years. That’s actually a very full professional career. Barry Sanders is my favorite running back but I think of Terrel Davis as up there even though he only played for about 7 or 8 years.
I agree. That's part of what makes Birds legacy so cool. He came in, crushed it, then left lol
"If you put Magic over Larry, it's because Magic did..." Nah. I'm man enough to admit that I put Magic over Larry because I'm a petty Laker fan who'll always find a dumb justification. How you think I demoted MJ to number 2?
Lol i can respect this
Btw: Larry has a 68% win record over MJ in their head to head games. Including 2 playoff sweeps.
I wish he spent more time as HC, he's legitimately the best player to also be a good coach or front office staff in general imo.
This is my favorite "making the case"
Nice!
1 Jordan
2 Bird
3 Wilt
4-??? Argue amongst yourselves
Hahaha i agree.
I like Bird at 2
21:58 Johnny Most was something else 😂😂😂
Lol he really was
Larry Bird was my guy. He's 2nd behind MJ. He's the best Forward ever to play the game.
The one really important thing that was only briefly touched on in this video was Birds insane trash talk, psychological mind games and telling his opponents exactly what he was going to do, how he was going to do it, and then execute time and time again.
Magic was right, there will never ever ever be, another Larry Bird.
Bird top 5 for life, Mount Rushmore Bird, Magic, Jordan.......Steph. yes Steph, game evolvers and chargers I had wilt before Steph because wilt "The Stilt" made the league move the rim from 8ft to 10ft they had to widen free throw line blocks etc all for wilt but Steph made the game so we all gotta a shot if we shoot. Great video Larry in today's game 🤦🤦🍿👀
thank you! yeah Bird top 5 for me always
Do magic next
Ok. I'll definitely do it soon!
This was a great video! I 100% thought that shot against the Lakers was going in. I have Jordan as the GOAT obviously, but after this video if people say Larry is the GOAT I won't argue. All this and he didn't even talk about Bird playing through excruciating back pain in the Olympics as someone who has had just a thrown out back at times and knowing how immobile you are so the fact that he was out there and not just playing but playing at a top level nothing but respect for him and the gaul of JJ Ledicklick to say "I think Larry Bird is super overrated"
For sure! Anytime someone says Larry is the goat I have nothing but respect for that viewpoint.
I flip flop between Jordan and Bird. Jordan was just majestic in every way. The most impressive thing about Bird to me is he came into the league ready to win. In 81 he won the chip with no Michale, no parish. No dj, no ainge. He took a 29 win team and with just his addition, it went to 62 wins.
Cedric Maxwell won the Finals MVP in Bird's first ring with the Celtics. 1981.
I don’t think he deserved it…at the very least, Larry deserved it just as much.
I have Bird in my top 3. I’ve watched ball since 1980 and I’ve seen countless of players and he’s up there. Yes that would make him the best SF ever. Over LeBron and KD.
@RealMindCrime Cedric took that MVP in 1981 from Bird lol
Larry Bird is the only player with a goat claim to beat every single player who also had an argument as greatest in his era
This is like sittin' on the couch with a buddy and watching basketball videos. Clayton already has five or so clicks from me, but we're also discussing it through ;-) And today you even have my special dish (Larry is in my top1) on the BBQ.
My favorite Larry Bird story: He didn't see color. You either could play, or you couldn't.
Larry had a big six in '86, but before that he was the guy who made a 23(I'm guessing here) to a 60 win team.
And I have to disagree on that one tiny thing: MJ didn't match Larry's clutch skills, he came close, but nobody ever did. Larry just did it too often to be remembered as special.
The goat SF to this day. At least.
If you ever wanna accuse Larry Bird of being a little disrespectful, it's the move he did on 15:21 where he faked a pass over the defender's head. On the other hand, that move is just plain hilarious...🤣
I sadly think of Lamebeer when I think of the Bad Boy Pistons. He doesn't deserve it! I just disliked him so much it trumps the respect I have for IT and Joe D. Blasphemy!
I actually have bird at number 3 after MJ and kareem. He was just out of this world. The best forward passer, the best small forward rebounder with over 10 per game, a killer sniper, leader and clutch
lambeer was the dude who larry had the biggest beef with
Agreed. Most of the league hated Bill lol
You’ve seen A COURTSHIP OF RIVALS?
Great doc on Bird and Magic. Great reaction in parts 😊
Oh I've heard of it! Definitely planning on checkin it out
@@TheRealMindCrime bring your Kleenex ❤️
Love Larry vids, I have MJ as the GOAT, but Legend may be my GOAT. The concussion game vs the rifleman is maybe my favorite moment in basketball.
I always respect it when someone says Larry is the goat. He was amazing!
Simply, Larry Legend was THAT GOOD- Highest basketball IQ by far, ever on the court- If his body would have held up, there'd be no argument... Toughest, smartest, clutchest MFR ever on the court- He's 1 or 2....Mike's 1 or 2... Love this channel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you!
I have bird only below mj, kareem, bill, magic respectively. he's arguably the greatest forward to ever play the sport, a true savant and a leader of men
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cheers!
Great point about Dumars, also Rodman needs his credit. That was like the Lakers and Celtics homegrown superteams, which is ok. OKC had that and fucked it up
Yeah OKC had it all figured out for a while. Til everyone left lol
@@TheRealMindCrime as a sonics fan it was satisfying. Only time I ever rooted for Flop after he left the Cavs was that finals
1 MJ
2 Bird
3 Magic
12:40 Yeah I honestly think of Isiah Thomas and Bill first when I think of the Bad Boy Pistons too. XD
Just personally I’m on that side of it. XD
14:25 Duuuuuuude that is my top 4 too. Literally exactly like you said.
Nice! Great minds think alike
I have Magic as my #2 PG of all time, Slightly behind Steve Nash !!! Hers my top 10. ( I use rings & mvps as tie breaker only) My Criteria= Rules played by Or Enforced , all around skill, makes others better, heart & competiveness.
#10 Pete Maravich
#9 Magic Johnson
#8 Hakeem Olaujuan
#7 Steve Nash
#6Tim Duncan
#5 Kobe
#4 David Robinson
#3 Kareem
#1b MJ
#1a Bird
Nice! If the conversation is my favorite pg of all time then its nash all the way.
My Blazersctook Clays Dad Mychel Thompson #1 before Bird . I gotta go Cry myself too sleep. A warm up to passinv up Jordan in 84. Glad we didnt take Durant in 07. The locker room would still Smell like Tuna.
Before , he didn't play long enough due to back injuries to be Goat , pretty sure Bird would say MJ is the goat but yeah it really does suck that he and Magic's career's got cut short. Bird is up there with players that seemed to play better when needed , sounds simple enough but it's what makes the greats great.
I posted on someone else's page, no true Jordan fan has anything negative to say about Larry Legend. Jordan had pure respect for him.
Definitely one of the top ten White players ever..Nowitzki Bird Havlicek West Maravich Barry Nash Jokic Doncic and Stockton, you pick the order.
My top 10 NBA players
1. Jordan
2. Pippen
3. Magic/Bird
4. Shaq
5. Shawn Kemp
6. Kobe
7. Curry
8. Robinson
9. Rodman
10. Hakeem
woah, Pip, Kemp, and Rodman are surprises but they are all great players
@@TheRealMindCrime 3 guesses as to who my favorite team is. 😆
People who say Lebron or KD over Bird never saw Bird play. He was So Much better than those 2.
Larry Bird is my Goat. Because he went from Trash Man to NBA legion. Who else did that? Jordan? LeBron who doesn't even throw out his own trash?
I definitely respect that man. Bird deserves more love
Cedric Maxwell somehow won the 81 MVP. Screw job for Larry's Icey demeanor towards the Press.
Bird is my 🐐 but Jordan is Goat all time for me .. Bird wasn't fast but if you watch his games he moves his feet like a PG and is always moving without the ball.
I would argue that pistol Pete was the 1st great marksman
Fair. Pistol was great at a lot of stuff
you know im waiting a kobe vid for the 24th he is my man
Lakers had 5 hall of famers too. And don't pretend anyone on the Celtics was on Kareem's level.
Cornbread Maxwell won MVP
I got Larry Lsgend at 2 right after Jordan
When i think of the bad boy pistons, i don't know how the prince of darkness bill laimbeer. He embodied being bad. He reveled in being hated. Joe wasn't dirty. Laimbeer was dirty af
Yeah Joe D was always a class act
I hate when folks enter the discussion with "my pick has more rings". Rings are a team stat and have zero relevance in the "best player" argument. No player has ever won a championship single-handedly. A shit player can sit on the bench all season and still get a ring. A phenomenal player can play every game for years, at an elite level, and still never get one.
He doesn't get enough credit period. He's the plumber they all talk about now not realizing Bird would school guys 6'10" now because he played every play. Never took one off. Flop was great but Bird would pick his pocket and grab boards in his face so much then talk mad shit right to his face. He couldn't handle prime Bird, let's be real
Yeah I'm tired of the Bird disrespect. He was beyond great.
My top 5
Mj
Kobe
Curry
Bron
A toss up between magic bird duncan and shaq
How do you watch this, even these few highlights compared to Bird’s career and say this current era is better?
Bird is number 3-4 and swaps odd days with Magic. Kareem has a solid case for 5 but so do a few guys.
The Ghost in Chicago remains alone at the top.
i dunno, the larry disrespect has gotten dumb at this point though
Larry Bird was Taken 6th in 78. Not 3rd.
I had Larry at #1 but Jordan in time passed him.
How many times didMJ beat LB?
Larry and Magic saved the NBA. Not Jordan and Stern as Today's Narrative
Yup. Those 2 saved it then Jordan and stern made it global. Without Bird and Magic who knows if there would be an NBA for Jordan to play in
When I think of the Bad Boys I think of Bill Laimbeer. Dirtiest player I've ever seen, and apparently he's the only player Bird won't talk to, even to this day. And Bird is cool with everyone since he retired.
Starting 5 that beats all others. Hakeem at 5 Duncan at 4 Bird at 3 Jordan at 2 and Payton at 1. That level of defense gets rid of the they can't shoot 3's bs. Curry wouldn't get a good shot off on GP in their primes. Fight me, that's mine
Interesting take with GP at the 1. That defense would crush
@@TheRealMindCrime I'm a forever sonics fan so I am biased, but yes that defense would crush
If you want to get really unfair you do hakeem, Duncan and bird 5-3 then kobe and Jordan trading off at 1 and 2.
Thats true lol. I've messed around with that but then i feel messed up for not having a point...but if we run the triangle then we don't need a pg.
Larry legend goat small forward. So lebron can't be in the "goat conversation" because he's not the best at his position.
bron not atleast 2nd is the funniest shi ever 😂
Nahh. He just doesn't check the boxes for me honestly.
@@TheRealMindCrime what boxes? as a players he basc checks all of them. he’s one of the best scorers n playmakers ever. he has the 2nd best peak ever. he has the greatest longevity. in his prime he was a very elite defender. i could keep going but overall at worst he’s 2nd, he even has a case to b the goat atp.
Kareems better than Parrish, but Id take McHale over Worthy. DJ over Byron Scott, Cooper over Ainge, Walton over AC Green.
No one comes close to Jordan but Larry. And Michael never beat Bird in the playoffs. No excuses. Clear!...
The Admiral did not play for 2 seasons after he was drafted because he served the navy.
Joe Dumars was not mentioned by Clayton as bad boy because Joe is a gentleman unlike Isiah and bill.
Larry set that clutch killer mentality before MJ and MJ lived up to the expectations. But Larry is still the most clutch dude I've ever seen lol
@@TheRealMindCrime In the clutch. You"re right. It's Larry all day.
I'm not a fan of this looking up to someone who 'looks like me'. The first problem is, that it is sort of a collectivistic stance. Secondly, just because someone has a similar melanin density, doesn't really mean they must be the player that one associates with. Michael Jordan looks nothing like me, and I looked up to him. Tracy McGrady doesn't look anything like me, but I looked up to him. Secondly, what does it even mean to look like you? Larry Bird might be close in hue to me, but I'm not blond or blue eyed, not to mention he is a few inches taller than me. So, does he really look like me? I'm left-handed, so should I be looking up to other left-handers? I'm of Czech/Bulgarian origin, so should I be looking up to players who are of Czech/Bulgarian origin (Jan Havlicek being of Czech descent comes to mind)? It all gets convoluted and, in the end, it's a racially collectivistic outlook, and I am an individualist and judge people based on their individual characteristics. I like Larry Bird because he was an incredible basketball player and not because he was White.
I'm Sorry But Your 4 Ahead Of Bird, None Of Then Were Great Ay Everything Like Bird Was, Bird Is Still To This Day The Best All Around Player. Also NO One & Even To This Day Had An Higher IQ On The Floor , It's Not Even Close. And When You Bring Up Stef OR LeFlop, Thats Just Dumb. Really How Good Do You Think Those Two Would Have Been OR Lasted Playing In The 80's. In The 80's They Never Would Hardly Get By Defenders The Way They Do Now Running To The Rim. It's Like Each Of Team Take Turn's Running To The Rim And NO One Can Touch Or Stop Them. And The Ridiculous Spacing And Everyone Hitting A 3-Point. So In Other Words They Are Playing A 3-Point & Dunking Contest, And Everyone Gets A Turn & NO One On The Other Team Can't Try To Stop Them. And No Has To Use IQ-Mind & Try To Out Wit Anyone. I'll Be So Glad When The NBA Ends Because They Don't Have To Play Hard Grit BB Anymore. And Really Bird Had A Long Decent Career. Players Back Then Usually Only Had A 10 To 14 Year Career On Average. Players Back Then Played In More Games Then The Softy Ones Today. And They Played A Lot More Minutes In A Game Then They Do Today. I Don't How Anyone Can Stand To Watch These Games Into Today Standards It's BORING As H*ll. I Do Love When Young People Watch Full Games Of Yester Year & Then They See What A Puzzy Way The Game Has Become.
I don’t wanna sound like a hater but to me Larry doesn’t seem that great he had a bunch of hall of famers and only won two which is impressive, but I don’t think he is my top 5 I do think he is top ten, but idk I didn’t watch so I can’t say anything.
According to that logic then Lebron shouldn't be top 10 either since he has and still is surrounded by hall of famers.