Stefani, can I just say you've done a really fabulous job of navigating your friends through this series, from their initial scepticism to full investment. You've struck the perfect balance between answering questions that it's possible to answer, encouraging their curiosity, but also holding back lots of information and not getting too frustrated when they (Lindsay!) occasionally wanders off the path. You are a perfect person to watch a new series with.
Si, Stefani es excepcional moderadora, van a disfrutar mucho mis dulces niñas de verano, Ashley es puro sentimiento a flor de piel, y Lindsay es muy perspicaz y analizadora, y lo mejor es que GRRM tiene el contenido perfecto para las dos
Well, they aren't wrong per se: drinking sea water will kill you pretty fast when your kidneys try pump out all that excess salt. Two liters (or half a gallon, if you go by freedom units) is enough to kill a grown man.
Having seen the Game of Thrones episodes, I have to give Stefani props... Your poker face is on point when listening to theories about what's happening. Cheers!
There's a lot of historical analogues. The breaking of the Arm of Dorne is the sinking of Doggerland. Which once connected Britain to the European continent by land. The Valyrian and Ghiscari Empires are Rome and Carthage. The Doom of Valyria and its collapse into the Smoking Sea is a lot like the story of Atlantis.
@@DystopiaWithoutNeonsI mean in terms of real history yes. But Pompeii is only famous for being destroyed by a volcano. Atlantis is famous for being an amazing land with lots of wonders suddenly destroyed. That's much more similar to Valyria than Pompeii.
And Aegon himself is pretty clear nod to "William the Conqueror" except without viking ancestry. Harren Hoare, on the other hand as "King of isles and rivers" is pretty clear nod to Cnut the great and his northern sea empire(And iron islanders are pretty clearly ASOIAF version of old norse, had they been bunch of idiots and only dedicated themselves to raiding), even more so as both of their dominion became undone after their death.
And the First Men bringing bronze weapons and horse riding with them and burying kings in barrows is reminiscent of the prehistoric Indo-European migrations.
The pro Lannister takes after watching the Sack of Kings’ Landing😂😂😂 literally had me dying - they slammed an infant’s head off a wall and stabbed a girl 100 times
Tywin waited until the war was practically won before attacking Kings Landing. Lyndsey seems to think this makes him the “victor” of the war, yet it was the Starks, Tullys, Arryns, and Baratheons that bled on the battlefields for months that permitted Tywin’s easy siege.
I can’t hate Viserys too much because I have too much empathy lmao, The absolute heartbreak in his voice when he speaks about his Brother being killed is, Oof
Lindsay (apologies if that isn't the correct spelling), Peter Vaughan is the amazing character actor who played the ageing butler in Remains of the Day (fantastic film btw). You are correct. He passed away 7/8 years ago. He is Maestor Aemon in GOT.
33:47 this is what Lord Umber meant back when the northern lords were debating if they should support Stannis or Renley; Lord Umber stood up and spit on both of their names and said "it was the dragons we bowed to" before pointing to Robb Stark and saying that he is the only king he would bend his knee to.
So glad you 3 went through the histories and lore. Stefani is doing a great job of helping Ashley and Lindsay navigate through GoT without giving anything away.
The Dothraki don't go near water that their horses can't drink. But that's just because the Dothraki are very attached to horses, their entire culture revolves around horses. The word "Dothraki" means knight; they believe that the first humans were born on horses and came out from a large lake in the middle of Essos, which they call the "womb of the world"; those who cannot ride, they do not even consider people; Dothraki warriors barely step on the ground, they are always on horses for as long as possible and when they walk, they walk with bowed legs.
@@bluewizzard8843 They are far from being primitive, they have a very rich culture, horrible in some aspects, such as violence and machismo, but all cultures in this universe are like that, so they are not that different. And they are also very rich, the Kharls have palaces in the Free Cities. They don't know how to build ships, not because they lack intelligence, but because ships are not part of their culture, but they have enough money to buy these ships.
@@DiegoFernandesLima Yes, they were portrayed in a very simplistic way in the show compared to their depiction in the novels, probably largely for budgetary reasons, and to simplify the plot. The Khals don’t all wear simple clothes made of grass and animal skins, they are rich beyond measure, and oftener magnificent outfits. Not only do hey have palaces ninth free cities, but in they have also transported enormous palaces, stone-by-stone, and brick-by-brick to Vaes Dothrak. Like you said, it isn’t that hey cat build ships that stops them. While it is true that they can’t build ships, why would they build them? If they wanted ships, they could simply pay others to build them, or extract them as tribute from any coastal cut;tures on Essos. they simply have no interest in anything to do with the sea, any significant knowledge or understanding of places beyond it, and also have superstitious fear of the ocean. Winterfell and the North in general was also simplified into something more primitive than it actually was.
56:35 This was actually quite a big curve ball that Aerys threw to Tywin. After his plan to have Cersei married to Rhaegar fell apart, Tywin went for the next best option and attempted to approach the northern power block (Stark-Baratheon-Tully) by negoating with Hoster Tully to have Jaime marry Hoster's other daughter Lysa Tully(Who became Jon Arryn's wife later). This went out of the window with Jaime's appointment to Kingsguard(arranged at least partly by Cersei) and while Tywin tried to salvage the situation by trying to have Lysa to marry Tyrion, Hoster Tully famously said that he wants his daugter to marry a whole man, not a half one. 1:20:50 Ned's problem was that Robert so casually accepted the "favor" that Tywin had done to him by killing Rhaegar's wife and children and while Robert had no part in it, Ned took his refusal to punish Tywin as good as being complicit. While it's pretty standard for new rulers to kill heirs that could threathen their own rule, Ned had thought his friend Robert was above that. It didn't help that Robert answered to Ned's protest by saying that "They weren't children, but Dragonspawn". But he also felt relieved that he didn't have to do it himself: Robert still thought of himself as a hero and heroes do not murder children.
Hey girls I've been watching your reactions for a bit and I usually don't comment because Stefani usually navigates through all the turmoil and misunderstandings.------- This time however I had to chime in because there was so much lore to cover. -------- As far as Lindsay goes, she is placing a lot of interpretations on things that are happening in the series based on her personal biases.-------- As the show progresses Stefani will be able to attest that the best way to enjoy Game of Thrones is to let things play out and unfold. ------- When you start presuming things that are supposed to happen in the show George R.R. Martin will take you for a left turn.
The knowing looks from the lady on the left while the others are theorizing are awesome😂 Also got is the greatest community for never really spoiling anything
Definitely! It's so easy for someone to slip up though so I'm trying to keep everything as secret as possible!! I even have to shut down conversations with some of our friends at parties haha
9:20 I think you can safely tell them that like 10 years before the show starts, there was a rebellion involving the Greyjoys, and the Greyjoys lost, and that's why Theon grew up with the Starks as a ward/hostage.
The lady on the right(I'm new to the channel, don't know her name) has all kinds of theories and questions swirling lol. It's cool and hilarious watching newcomers to the show figure out things for themselves!
Hey guys I've been watching the reactions for a bit and I love the energy and fun you guys bring, especially Stefani when she gets the giggles, it's priceless. -------- Your smile lights up the internet like no other. Thanks for the great reactions.
As a British person I always thought of the Andals as the Anglo Saxons who concurred a lot of Britain long ago and are basically the ancestors of the English. I’m Celtic because my family is Welsh and Irish as far back as records go. So like First Men basically. But that’s all thousands of years ago and although I’m Welsh and they are English we are still British (Westerosi). And like over the years bloodlines have mixed and the two have integrated but have some separate traditions history language etc. That’s how I think of the genetic make up of game of thrones. George also created Westoros based on a lot of British history so it would make sense that that inspired him.
Hey Linsay, another thing to consider is that Tywin Lannister doesn't want to be King, he wants to exert power through indirect rule. -------- Using wealth and fear to exert influence on all aspects of the kingdom. ------- When Robert's rebellion raged, Lord Tywin did choose a side until the victor was clear. -------- He only makes moves for political or economic advantage for the Lannister family. -------- As Tywin spoke of in episode 5, hen he stated family legacy is all that matters. ------- Now Linsay, bring on that Stag-Dragon power.
Yeah, Tywin did not expect to become King merely by taking King’s Landing. Robert and his allies had already secured most f the rest of the country, and King’s Landing was bound to fall eventually.
Lindsay is right to see symbolic meanings, patterns and parallels in things, people and events. There's a very definite sense of history repeating and people dancing the same old dances in the books. There are dozens of RUclips channels dedicated to unwrapping the layers of symbolism, hidden meanings and possible lost history that's hinted at in the books' backstory, and they show no sign of running out of material any time soon, in fact new theories _still_ come out regularly. Bear in mind however, that some mysteries haven't been officially answered in the books and may _never_ be answered. After all, real history is like that: there are some things we just don't know and will never know. It's also the case that some of the answers that are eventually provided in the TV show may not be the same as the ones that Martin comes up with when he finally finishes the last two books.
This show is a ride that I haven't been on for a few years now... I'm enjoying it, yet again, through you! I very much appreciate your dynamic and discussions! PS, you have a great guide of this ride/story. Props to you, guide, PHD of GOT, explaining enough but not too much!
They mention Orys Baratheon, but Robert also had a Targaryen grandmother, inheritance isn't matrilineal in this world but its still a strong claim if all the Targaryens are wiped out.
Just a suggestion to get all their questions out of the way before moving on to another section of the history & lore. Several times they missed info that would've answered questions or given insight, but everyone was talking over the video playing. I do enjoy the reactions and you're doing a good job of not spoiling anything for your friends.
Interesting to see the attempts to parallel events in the show to historical events. George R.R. Martin said he took from many historical events to forge thisworld.
Ive never actually watched these. Though, Ashley and Lindsay definitely missed the talks Robert and Ned had about Lyanna being kidnapped and that whole conflict. Finger pull fart 😂😂💀💀💀💀🤣🤣
There is definitely inspiration from real human history. Westeros specifically with the british history inspiration, so there's some inspiration there for the waves of immigration/conquest by other groups you mentioned. So the first men are there like maybe early celtic immigration? then Andals are maybe similar Saxons or other raider waves into britain? And then maybe Targaryens coming in are like the Normans with William the Conquer? It's very much the case, especially for the north but also for the south too, that you can't actually rule it all by direct force. That's why Targaryens let the starks be wardens, why Tywin says attacking Ned, and then especially beheading Ned, is stupid, even though he has no love for the Starks. To rule either the south or the north you need the support of at least some of the people, some of the houses. There are constraints on how much power even the king has, you still need to have the support of the houses and some people.
The Targaryens were actually slowly picking away at the foundations of Westeros feudal system. The order of Maesters and the order of Pyromancers, and other imitation orders, were weakening the feudal bonds by creating alternative systems with little loyalty to the feudal lord. Similarly the rise in the Andal religion of the Seven was also acting as another alternative powerbase. Finally the Targaryens had ushered in a period of relative peace that saw minor houses becoming much more powerful and reporting less to their feudal lords than directly to the crown. Ironically this would contribute to Robert's victory. The North was least affected by these changes with some houses distrusting Maesters and refusing to have one. The North remained strongly feudal. However the southern kingdoms were much more integrated into a single unified realm and the minor houses were less controllable by their overlords, some of whom had become overlords in name only. The Westerlands remained more strongly under the Lannister control due to Tywin. This is partly why at the beginning of Game of Thrones the Lannisters and the Starks are two of the most powerful houses.
The Children of the Forest are the Celts, the First Men are the Britons (Welsh), the Andals are the Anglo-Saxons (there is a misconception that the Saxons were the greater force, the Angles territory was far greater, hence England being the name we have now and not Saxonland or something Saxon related) and the Valyrians are the Romans
You should help them a little more , like when one wonder who are the wildings why not just say they are people north of the wall . Love the reaction anyway
By the way you guys might wanna keep the House Lannister history in mind especially when tywin mention about a song. It will come up later but I'm not gonna say when since its spoiler related
Hey Gals, I wanted to speak on the character of Viserys (Daenerys’ brother). --------- You have to understand he left Westeros at the age of 6. -------- His understanding of being a ruler comes from bad examples like Mad King Aryes. -------- He is male and is first born so he believes its his birth right to rule Westeros. -------- Viserys got what was coming to him, but he had bad teachers. Most villians in this series are gray in nature.
Dorthraki fear the open sea, for one reason horses and humans cant drink sea water so that = bad, They dont understand how big the world is either, i think jorah describes to Dany that if Drogo even considers westeros he only sees it as small islands in the water.
@34:30 - quite the opposite. Wholesale massacres of vanquished were seen as unnecessary atrocities by most of the contemporaries through all the history and weren't a common occurrence. When they happened, it was usually for same reason: to punish those who refused to submit - in order to entice future enemies to surrender more readily. They didn't do it because human life was priceless, it was for exactly opposite reason: there was a price tag on every human being - and killing your new subjects made you poorer by the sum of their worth. Before the advent of modern medicine 2-3 centuries ago and explosion of human population, there was always a shortage of workforce, whether we're talking slaves or just your own subjects. As Game of Thrones is set in medieval-like setting, same rules apply: you don't kill that which will pay tribute and/or taxes :)
Also, the Targaryen invasion was not like, say, the Norman one of England, which brought a large army of adventurers and allies who had been promised to reap the spoils of the conquest. Aegon invaded with a very small initial force, and as he defeated enemies, he turned them into allies, who in turn helped him defeat more enemies. He did not arrive with sufficient numbers to displace the entire ruling class, so he needed to preserve that ruling class, and simply place himself and his family at the top of that hierarchy. The royalty and nobility of the Seven Kingdoms had deep historical ties with the people of Westeros, ties that reached back (supposedly) thousands of years. He had no reason to rock the boat. He only needed to rock it enough for the officers of the ship(s) of state to allow him to become captain.
So there are parallels made by George to real history. The Children of the Forest are the Celts, the First Men are the Britons (Welsh), the Andals are the Anglo-Saxons and the Valyrians are the Romans
Ned thought the murder of Rhaegar's children as the 'shameful' way Robert won his throne. The throne is just a chair though, just because Jamie sat on it doesn't mean he's king, you need support from the other lords to acknowledge his right to rule. Robert was chosen to become king because he was closest related to the Targaryens and also lord of the Storm Lands.
Interesting that Lindsey pointed out that the history is pretty close to actual human history, the main story line for game of thrones is loosely based on the real war of the roses
"Colonialism" 😂😂😂 I think the first man got conquered and they kneel to the andals "You better defend your land with all your strenght" The first man had already a working civilization in westeros
Baratheon's started as a half brother of aegon. But that doesnt mean necesarily that the "half" is the part with dragon blood. For hypotetical example: Aegons parents arent siblings. One oarent is the targeryan tge other parent is a Jones. The Jones parent had a bastard ... aka the baratheon brother. In this example.. baratheons arent passing down the dragon blood, instead they pass down the "regular" half that he shares with Aegon. This explains why Renky Stanis Gendry etc arent blood of the dragon and dont have dragons. Theres was another blood line that shared blood with targeryans.. "the blackfires" ... and those did shared dragon targeryan genetics.
Your logic is sound but Aegon's mother was a Velaryon and half Targaryen herself. Also the lore has it that Orys was Aerion Targaryen's son. But there are certain other characters who are "known" to be someone's son who really aren't, that still doesn't mean Orys didn't have "dragon blood" or Valyrian heritage.
I think you are both over thinking it and going way too far back, Robert Baratheon’s grandmother was a Targaryen, Rhaelle Targaryen. It also more than likely that at other instances in his ancestry that he inherited Targaryen DNA but the further back you go, the less likely that is because you only inherit 50% of each parents DNA so the chance of that DNA being passed down to the next generation decreases each generation. That 50% you inherit from you parents isn’t 50% of every different bit of DNA so if a persons’ father has for example 80% Baratheon DNA and 20% Targaryen DNA it doesn’t mean they will inherit 40% of the Baratheon DNA and 10% of the Targaryen DNA, all 50% might be from the Baratheon DNA and 0% of the Targaryen DNA or 20% of the Targaryen DNA and 30% of the Baratheon DNA or any combination between those two. That’s the reason why historically speaking Royalty has kept it in the family or someone with certain status who will have strong ties to the royal bloodline, so it gives the best chance for passing down the certain DNA from a certain bloodline which is considered more important than anything. It’s not common knowledge because the establishment can’t acknowledge it because acknowledging it would also expose a lie and expose the fact that recent history of the monarchy has been illegitimate but the British monarch should be able to trace their bloodline to the Welsh royal bloodline and this was for a reason they can’t tell you because if they did that would expose one of the biggest lies in history, so there are two lies they are hiding. The general population aren’t allowed to know the truth but at the same time the truth is something they need to prove to be a legitimate monarch. The truth is a double edged sword for the monarchy, they desperately want to destroy and hide it but at the same time they need to preserve it to be legitimate and I don’t mean legitimate in the eyes of the general public but in the eyes of God. As is the case demonstrated well in these histories and lore, the story of the history changes based on who is telling it and it’s usually the victor whose version of history is written as they controlled those who wrote it down and taught it. I wasn’t a fan of history lessons at school but there was one lesson my primary school history teacher taught me that stuck with me and he was 100% right, there is always more than one side to a story and you should hear all sides before making an informed judgement on what is and what isn’t true because history is always written by the victor. The story of Ned Stark is a prime example of that and how he was portrayed as a result in the Izembaro theatre performance
@@Penddraig7 you are right.. there are some targeryans who married baratheons along the line. What i was ansering was about horus baratheon, the half brother of aegon and the fact the he didnt necesarily had targeryan blood if he came from the non targeryan side of aegon. But yes, its true that after that, baratheons have married targeryans.
@@alexmckee4683 Also, if she had been he bastard son of the woman who was Aegon’s mother, Aegon’s father would have never married her if it happened while she was still single. If she bore an illegitimate child while married to Aegon’s father, it would have been raised as a Targeryan, much like Joffrey was. Orys being a bastard half brother of Aegon implicitly means that they had the same father.
This definitely is a lot, but you all did a good job catching the important things. It is a lot like sitting in a lecture, they throw a lot at you, really fast.
By female bloodline. Tywin means through the bloodline of one of lanns daughters. And not from a son. Which usually makes up the main branch of a noble family.
Yes I really hope they come to understand this as they still seem to get Mormont and Thorne confused. Jon was made a steward not to spite him, but for his benefit. He is being groomed for command, he is one of the Lord Commander's most trusted aides, he will learn many things working directly with him, and he is being spared having to work for Thorne, who does spite him, if he was Ranger.
Hey ladies, A common theme in the GOT series is that the people who don't expect to lead often become the best leaders. --- Which is also a reflection of life. Such as her favorite characters Jon Snow and Daenerys. --- Dani rose to be a great leader because she wasn't expected to lead her family back to the throne. ------- She spent time with her servants and learn to serve them well after she walked into the fire. ---- Careful, careful, without the right compass many of these leaders can get lost. Have fun with the rest of the series.
Dude, as far as two of these ladies know, both Jon Snow and Daenerys could die in the next episode they watch. Why would you elude to them, especially Jon, as being the ruler of anything? That is a major spoiler.
Me parece que me lo voy a pasar muy bien con ustedes, Lindsay esta preparada para leer el primer libro y hasta puede igualar a D&D en sus pronósticos, jeje, con Ashley voy a empatizar mucho, y que decir de la Extraordinaria, paciente e inteligente moderadora.. Muchas Gracias a las Tres por este gran rato de Canción de Hielo Y Fuego
Ooo! I would love that!! So hard to say, so many amazing actors out there, and many who are not well known that could potentially rock this role! Do you have any ideas?
Interesting to hear how Robert brags about Lyanna being beautiful and spirited and how he loved her for that, because Cersei is also beautiful and spirited and look how he treats her when she shows how spirited and unsubmissive she is, even when she's right to do so. Robert hits Cersei and then puts the blame on her. I don't know if Lyanna would have had a better life with Robert.
Lyanna had inward beauty, Cersei had outward beauty, not the same thing lol nobody that ever described Cersei as beautiful was referring to anything but her body but people talked about Lyanna being wholly beautiful as a person. Also, Cersei is literally a sociopath in the books and I don’t think anyone ever described her as ‘spirited’ lol, maybe if they put the word ‘dark’ just before it
@@yomamma.ismydaddy216 No one ever described her like that, but she was until Robert turned her into this person who was so unhappy and resentful of life after suffering several abuses. She is also very proud, has a very strong personality and does not shut up in front of men and challenges their authority, just like Lyanna. Of course, Cersei is more on the "villains" side of the story, so these characteristics are not very appreciated in her.
@@DiegoFernandesLima no one ever described her like that? Have you read the books? Even in the show Tyrion reminds Cersei of the time when they were children and Cersei had her guards beat the servant girl who lost her eye, and that’s just one little line that actually made it into the show
@@DiegoFernandesLima not to mention what prince obryn told Tyrion about how Cersei treated Tyrion when he was born, and again that’s just another little something that actually made it into the show
How would Gendry end up a pauper in Kings Landing if he was Lyanna’s child? How come he remembers his mother having blonde hair yet Lyanna had dark hair? She should ask herself these questions after making these far-fetching theories.
Best question why did the targaryen accept and make others wardens . Like torrren . That is the central question of fire and ice . And we know the answer now .
The sack of kings landing was not a heroic feat and Robert pardoning them should taken away whatever perceived bitterness there might be. The sack of kings landing was the easiest feat of the war, Robert won the throne, not twin or Jamie 😂😂 of Robert and Ned wanted to take out the lannisters for what they had done they could have at once
RP pronunciation of "Ty" words generally matches the pronunciation in these videos. For example, tyrannical is usually pronounced like /tɪˈɹænɪkəl/ in RP, while in many North American accents it's pronounced /taɪˈɹænɪkəl/. The UK pronunciation is closer to the Latin pronunciation whereas pronouncing the "y" sound like /aɪˈ/ has its origin in a hypercorrection applied to words of (assumed) Greek origin. I myself actually pronounce it in the hypercorrected way common to North American accents despite generally having an RP accent usually, but I am aware that the pronunciation used by the various actors in these clips is more standard and usual.
@@alexmckee4683 yet, in the show it's pronounced differently which might throw off the ladies from what they learned the lore. I'd say the reason being is just like in Star Wars it can get you lost on which is more in use. Han Solo and Leia are huge examples of this.
Just watched your latest reaction video, and it was absolutely fantastic! 🌟 Your insights and enthusiasm really bring the content to life. By the way, I stumbled upon this amazing guide to the map of 'Game of Thrones' . Entire Game of Thrones Map/World Detailed by youtuber WhyCreate, I think you'll find intriguing: ruclips.net/video/cdC2b6IL9No/видео.html. It’s a great resource that adds even more depth to the lore. Can't wait to see more of your reactions! Keep up the great work! 👏
The girl in the middle kinda tells the lady with the hat to politely shut up. Its feels sad, but it seems like if they are a couple... so thats just couple's stuff. But its a little sad. Let the lady talk.. if its strays too far from topic you can always cut in the edit. But let her have her fun in her own way. She gives the same looks i give my S.O. sometimes.
Aegon married his sisters... but it is said that he was actually gay, so was one of the sisters. Only one of the sisters was actually in love with aegon.
Not technically colonialism. Mass migration. Much like what happened in North America. Native Americans cross the land bridge of the Bearing Sea and invaded the new world. Interesting theory about the children and the white walkers...
It is absolutely colonialism lol. "Mass migration" where you conquer the native people and subjugate their culture? It's ludicrous to compare it to migration to north america from siberia as there were no people in north america until then.
7HELLZ‼️ Your editor is unnecessarily annoying. Way too much unwanted skipping and blocking. PLZ learn frm established GOT reactors. Lore is not copyrighted ytf ru skipping ish 😑 😒
Stefani, can I just say you've done a really fabulous job of navigating your friends through this series, from their initial scepticism to full investment. You've struck the perfect balance between answering questions that it's possible to answer, encouraging their curiosity, but also holding back lots of information and not getting too frustrated when they (Lindsay!) occasionally wanders off the path. You are a perfect person to watch a new series with.
Thank you so much! 🥹
Si, Stefani es excepcional moderadora, van a disfrutar mucho mis dulces niñas de verano, Ashley es puro sentimiento a flor de piel, y Lindsay es muy perspicaz y analizadora, y lo mejor es que GRRM tiene el contenido perfecto para las dos
1:04:10 Dothraki fear water that their horses can't drink. They refer to it as "poison water"
Well, they aren't wrong per se: drinking sea water will kill you pretty fast when your kidneys try pump out all that excess salt. Two liters (or half a gallon, if you go by freedom units) is enough to kill a grown man.
Having seen the Game of Thrones episodes, I have to give Stefani props... Your poker face is on point when listening to theories about what's happening. Cheers!
To be fair, Tywin refers to the hill tribes as Tyrion's wildlings.
There's a lot of historical analogues.
The breaking of the Arm of Dorne is the sinking of Doggerland. Which once connected Britain to the European continent by land.
The Valyrian and Ghiscari Empires are Rome and Carthage.
The Doom of Valyria and its collapse into the Smoking Sea is a lot like the story of Atlantis.
I thought the doom of Valyria had more to do with Pompeii
@@DystopiaWithoutNeonsI mean in terms of real history yes. But Pompeii is only famous for being destroyed by a volcano. Atlantis is famous for being an amazing land with lots of wonders suddenly destroyed. That's much more similar to Valyria than Pompeii.
And Aegon himself is pretty clear nod to "William the Conqueror" except without viking ancestry. Harren Hoare, on the other hand as "King of isles and rivers" is pretty clear nod to Cnut the great and his northern sea empire(And iron islanders are pretty clearly ASOIAF version of old norse, had they been bunch of idiots and only dedicated themselves to raiding), even more so as both of their dominion became undone after their death.
And the First Men bringing bronze weapons and horse riding with them and burying kings in barrows is reminiscent of the prehistoric Indo-European migrations.
The pro Lannister takes after watching the Sack of Kings’ Landing😂😂😂 literally had me dying - they slammed an infant’s head off a wall and stabbed a girl 100 times
Lindsay, never stop remembering the question of why did Rhaegar take Lyanna. It will come in handy eventually 😂
Tywin waited until the war was practically won before attacking Kings Landing. Lyndsey seems to think this makes him the “victor” of the war, yet it was the Starks, Tullys, Arryns, and Baratheons that bled on the battlefields for months that permitted Tywin’s easy siege.
I can’t hate Viserys too much because I have too much empathy lmao, The absolute heartbreak in his voice when he speaks about his Brother being killed is, Oof
Probably should hate him even more when he's assaulting his sister
Lindsay (apologies if that isn't the correct spelling), Peter Vaughan is the amazing character actor who played the ageing butler in Remains of the Day (fantastic film btw). You are correct. He passed away 7/8 years ago. He is Maestor Aemon in GOT.
The "Sweet Summer Child" T-shirt was SO appropriate!!!!!!!😂😂😂
33:47 this is what Lord Umber meant back when the northern lords were debating if they should support Stannis or Renley; Lord Umber stood up and spit on both of their names and said "it was the dragons we bowed to" before pointing to Robb Stark and saying that he is the only king he would bend his knee to.
"...bend moi nay toe!"
So glad you 3 went through the histories and lore. Stefani is doing a great job of helping Ashley and Lindsay navigate through GoT without giving anything away.
The Dothraki don't go near water that their horses can't drink. But that's just because the Dothraki are very attached to horses, their entire culture revolves around horses. The word "Dothraki" means knight; they believe that the first humans were born on horses and came out from a large lake in the middle of Essos, which they call the "womb of the world"; those who cannot ride, they do not even consider people; Dothraki warriors barely step on the ground, they are always on horses for as long as possible and when they walk, they walk with bowed legs.
They are also primitive nomas who can't build ships.
@@bluewizzard8843 They are far from being primitive, they have a very rich culture, horrible in some aspects, such as violence and machismo, but all cultures in this universe are like that, so they are not that different. And they are also very rich, the Kharls have palaces in the Free Cities. They don't know how to build ships, not because they lack intelligence, but because ships are not part of their culture, but they have enough money to buy these ships.
@@DiegoFernandesLima Yes, they were portrayed in a very simplistic way in the show compared to their depiction in the novels, probably largely for budgetary reasons, and to simplify the plot. The Khals don’t all wear simple clothes made of grass and animal skins, they are rich beyond measure, and oftener magnificent outfits. Not only do hey have palaces ninth free cities, but in they have also transported enormous palaces, stone-by-stone, and brick-by-brick to Vaes Dothrak. Like you said, it isn’t that hey cat build ships that stops them. While it is true that they can’t build ships, why would they build them? If they wanted ships, they could simply pay others to build them, or extract them as tribute from any coastal cut;tures on Essos. they simply have no interest in anything to do with the sea, any significant knowledge or understanding of places beyond it, and also have superstitious fear of the ocean. Winterfell and the North in general was also simplified into something more primitive than it actually was.
56:35 This was actually quite a big curve ball that Aerys threw to Tywin. After his plan to have Cersei married to Rhaegar fell apart, Tywin went for the next best option and attempted to approach the northern power block (Stark-Baratheon-Tully) by negoating with Hoster Tully to have Jaime marry Hoster's other daughter Lysa Tully(Who became Jon Arryn's wife later).
This went out of the window with Jaime's appointment to Kingsguard(arranged at least partly by Cersei) and while Tywin tried to salvage the situation by trying to have Lysa to marry Tyrion, Hoster Tully famously said that he wants his daugter to marry a whole man, not a half one.
1:20:50 Ned's problem was that Robert so casually accepted the "favor" that Tywin had done to him by killing Rhaegar's wife and children and while Robert had no part in it, Ned took his refusal to punish Tywin as good as being complicit. While it's pretty standard for new rulers to kill heirs that could threathen their own rule, Ned had thought his friend Robert was above that. It didn't help that Robert answered to Ned's protest by saying that "They weren't children, but Dragonspawn". But he also felt relieved that he didn't have to do it himself: Robert still thought of himself as a hero and heroes do not murder children.
Hey girls I've been watching your reactions for a bit and I usually don't comment because Stefani usually navigates through all the turmoil and misunderstandings.------- This time however I had to chime in because there was so much lore to cover. -------- As far as Lindsay goes, she is placing a lot of interpretations on things that are happening in the series based on her personal biases.-------- As the show progresses Stefani will be able to attest that the best way to enjoy Game of Thrones is to let things play out and unfold. ------- When you start presuming things that are supposed to happen in the show George R.R. Martin will take you for a left turn.
The knowing looks from the lady on the left while the others are theorizing are awesome😂
Also got is the greatest community for never really spoiling anything
Definitely! It's so easy for someone to slip up though so I'm trying to keep everything as secret as possible!! I even have to shut down conversations with some of our friends at parties haha
@@MugShotzReacts you seem to be doing a great job of it
9:20 I think you can safely tell them that like 10 years before the show starts, there was a rebellion involving the Greyjoys, and the Greyjoys lost, and that's why Theon grew up with the Starks as a ward/hostage.
It does come up in season 2 so I thought I would let them find out the way the rest of us did ☺️
The lady on the right(I'm new to the channel, don't know her name) has all kinds of theories and questions swirling lol. It's cool and hilarious watching newcomers to the show figure out things for themselves!
"They don't trust any water their horses cannot drink"
Lindsay is so cute trying to say, "Rhaegar"😂
Hey guys I've been watching the reactions for a bit and I love the energy and fun you guys bring, especially Stefani when she gets the giggles, it's priceless. -------- Your smile lights up the internet like no other. Thanks for the great reactions.
Thank you so much!!
As a British person I always thought of the Andals as the Anglo Saxons who concurred a lot of Britain long ago and are basically the ancestors of the English. I’m Celtic because my family is Welsh and Irish as far back as records go. So like First Men basically. But that’s all thousands of years ago and although I’m Welsh and they are English we are still British (Westerosi). And like over the years bloodlines have mixed and the two have integrated but have some separate traditions history language etc. That’s how I think of the genetic make up of game of thrones. George also created Westoros based on a lot of British history so it would make sense that that inspired him.
...even the "shape of Westeros", is very alike the shape of Britain.
😉
Hey Linsay, another thing to consider is that Tywin Lannister doesn't want to be King, he wants to exert power through indirect rule. -------- Using wealth and fear to exert influence on all aspects of the kingdom. ------- When Robert's rebellion raged, Lord Tywin did choose a side until the victor was clear. -------- He only makes moves for political or economic advantage for the Lannister family. -------- As Tywin spoke of in episode 5, hen he stated family legacy is all that matters. ------- Now Linsay, bring on that Stag-Dragon power.
Yeah, Tywin did not expect to become King merely by taking King’s Landing. Robert and his allies had already secured most f the rest of the country, and King’s Landing was bound to fall eventually.
Nice to see you checking these out. They help fill in gaps in knowledge and act as a bit of a refresher before watching the next season.
Lindsay is right to see symbolic meanings, patterns and parallels in things, people and events. There's a very definite sense of history repeating and people dancing the same old dances in the books. There are dozens of RUclips channels dedicated to unwrapping the layers of symbolism, hidden meanings and possible lost history that's hinted at in the books' backstory, and they show no sign of running out of material any time soon, in fact new theories _still_ come out regularly. Bear in mind however, that some mysteries haven't been officially answered in the books and may _never_ be answered. After all, real history is like that: there are some things we just don't know and will never know. It's also the case that some of the answers that are eventually provided in the TV show may not be the same as the ones that Martin comes up with when he finally finishes the last two books.
You should tell them that Gendry is a bastard, so he can't hold titles unless he is legitimized.
This show is a ride that I haven't been on for a few years now... I'm enjoying it, yet again, through you! I very much appreciate your dynamic and discussions!
PS, you have a great guide of this ride/story. Props to you, guide, PHD of GOT, explaining enough but not too much!
Coincidentally, the Ruby Ford of he Red Fork is the same place where Arya threw Joffrey’s sword into the river.
They mention Orys Baratheon, but Robert also had a Targaryen grandmother, inheritance isn't matrilineal in this world but its still a strong claim if all the Targaryens are wiped out.
Just a suggestion to get all their questions out of the way before moving on to another section of the history & lore. Several times they missed info that would've answered questions or given insight, but everyone was talking over the video playing.
I do enjoy the reactions and you're doing a good job of not spoiling anything for your friends.
Interesting to see the attempts to parallel events in the show to historical events. George R.R. Martin said he took from many historical events to forge thisworld.
Ive never actually watched these. Though, Ashley and Lindsay definitely missed the talks Robert and Ned had about Lyanna being kidnapped and that whole conflict.
Finger pull fart 😂😂💀💀💀💀🤣🤣
I should have know that was coming 🤣
There is definitely inspiration from real human history. Westeros specifically with the british history inspiration, so there's some inspiration there for the waves of immigration/conquest by other groups you mentioned. So the first men are there like maybe early celtic immigration? then Andals are maybe similar Saxons or other raider waves into britain? And then maybe Targaryens coming in are like the Normans with William the Conquer?
It's very much the case, especially for the north but also for the south too, that you can't actually rule it all by direct force. That's why Targaryens let the starks be wardens, why Tywin says attacking Ned, and then especially beheading Ned, is stupid, even though he has no love for the Starks. To rule either the south or the north you need the support of at least some of the people, some of the houses. There are constraints on how much power even the king has, you still need to have the support of the houses and some people.
The Targaryens were actually slowly picking away at the foundations of Westeros feudal system. The order of Maesters and the order of Pyromancers, and other imitation orders, were weakening the feudal bonds by creating alternative systems with little loyalty to the feudal lord. Similarly the rise in the Andal religion of the Seven was also acting as another alternative powerbase. Finally the Targaryens had ushered in a period of relative peace that saw minor houses becoming much more powerful and reporting less to their feudal lords than directly to the crown. Ironically this would contribute to Robert's victory.
The North was least affected by these changes with some houses distrusting Maesters and refusing to have one. The North remained strongly feudal. However the southern kingdoms were much more integrated into a single unified realm and the minor houses were less controllable by their overlords, some of whom had become overlords in name only. The Westerlands remained more strongly under the Lannister control due to Tywin.
This is partly why at the beginning of Game of Thrones the Lannisters and the Starks are two of the most powerful houses.
The Children of the Forest are the Celts, the First Men are the Britons (Welsh), the Andals are the Anglo-Saxons (there is a misconception that the Saxons were the greater force, the Angles territory was far greater, hence England being the name we have now and not Saxonland or something Saxon related) and the Valyrians are the Romans
You should help them a little more , like when one wonder who are the wildings why not just say they are people north of the wall .
Love the reaction anyway
7:39 it's confusing coz you're trying to guess Too much.
43:47 Valyrian steel was mentioned when Viserys was Talking about the Valyrians
This history and lore are amazing
By the way you guys might wanna keep the House Lannister history in mind especially when tywin mention about a song. It will come up later but I'm not gonna say when since its spoiler related
Hey Gals, I wanted to speak on the character of Viserys (Daenerys’ brother). --------- You have to understand he left Westeros at the age of 6. -------- His understanding of being a ruler comes from bad examples like Mad King Aryes. -------- He is male and is first born so he believes its his birth right to rule Westeros. -------- Viserys got what was coming to him, but he had bad teachers. Most villians in this series are gray in nature.
Well, second born, technically. Rhaegar was the first born, but he is dead.
@@sadfaery true. I forgot about Rhaegar.
I honestly wonder what your thoughts were when she said Gendry has blood of the dragon XD
I never thought about that, technically true!
I hadn't really thought of it either! But when they say anything too close I try to keep my mouth shut hahaha!
Ladies if you study the flag sigils. Things will also become more clear.
Really excited for this journey. Go guys. If u can upload everyday It'd be great
I wish we could! We'll be sticking to a once a week schedule for now.
Man their theory’s are pretty good, that moment they realize wait she was kidnapped by rhaegar and why
I know!! People think Lindsay is missing everything but they don't realize how perceptive she is!!
Dorthraki fear the open sea, for one reason horses and humans cant drink sea water so that = bad, They dont understand how big the world is either, i think jorah describes to Dany that if Drogo even considers westeros he only sees it as small islands in the water.
The knights of the mind indeed! Who calls them that, Maester Lewin? No one. The conceit! You are the commonly known as the grey rats!
Yessss so good that u check these out 💯
So informational and immersive
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Not all characters have said that Aegon conquered the 7 Kingdoms
@34:30 - quite the opposite. Wholesale massacres of vanquished were seen as unnecessary atrocities by most of the contemporaries through all the history and weren't a common occurrence. When they happened, it was usually for same reason: to punish those who refused to submit - in order to entice future enemies to surrender more readily. They didn't do it because human life was priceless, it was for exactly opposite reason: there was a price tag on every human being - and killing your new subjects made you poorer by the sum of their worth. Before the advent of modern medicine 2-3 centuries ago and explosion of human population, there was always a shortage of workforce, whether we're talking slaves or just your own subjects.
As Game of Thrones is set in medieval-like setting, same rules apply: you don't kill that which will pay tribute and/or taxes :)
Also, the Targaryen invasion was not like, say, the Norman one of England, which brought a large army of adventurers and allies who had been promised to reap the spoils of the conquest. Aegon invaded with a very small initial force, and as he defeated enemies, he turned them into allies, who in turn helped him defeat more enemies. He did not arrive with sufficient numbers to displace the entire ruling class, so he needed to preserve that ruling class, and simply place himself and his family at the top of that hierarchy. The royalty and nobility of the Seven Kingdoms had deep historical ties with the people of Westeros, ties that reached back (supposedly) thousands of years. He had no reason to rock the boat. He only needed to rock it enough for the officers of the ship(s) of state to allow him to become captain.
If you guys continue with the lore, then you'll remember most of it. No worries about understanding it all yet
Robert and Rhaegar and are even closer related in the books, Roberts grandmother was a targaryen marking robert and Rhaegar 2nd cousins
So there are parallels made by George to real history.
The Children of the Forest are the Celts, the First Men are the Britons (Welsh), the Andals are the Anglo-Saxons and the Valyrians are the Romans
And the wall = Hadrian’s wall
Ned thought the murder of Rhaegar's children as the 'shameful' way Robert won his throne. The throne is just a chair though, just because Jamie sat on it doesn't mean he's king, you need support from the other lords to acknowledge his right to rule. Robert was chosen to become king because he was closest related to the Targaryens and also lord of the Storm Lands.
Nice to see you gals watching the history & lores hope u girls have a great weekend
Thank you!! Have a great weekend 😃
I love how u all into history too, me is such a history nerd 😊 I looove lore too. Thank you for doing it
Glad you enjoy it!
Interesting that Lindsey pointed out that the history is pretty close to actual human history, the main story line for game of thrones is loosely based on the real war of the roses
"Colonialism" 😂😂😂
I think the first man got conquered and they kneel to the andals
"You better defend your land with all your strenght"
The first man had already a working civilization in westeros
Baratheon's started as a half brother of aegon. But that doesnt mean necesarily that the "half" is the part with dragon blood.
For hypotetical example:
Aegons parents arent siblings. One oarent is the targeryan tge other parent is a Jones. The Jones parent had a bastard ... aka the baratheon brother. In this example.. baratheons arent passing down the dragon blood, instead they pass down the "regular" half that he shares with Aegon.
This explains why Renky Stanis Gendry etc arent blood of the dragon and dont have dragons.
Theres was another blood line that shared blood with targeryans.. "the blackfires" ... and those did shared dragon targeryan genetics.
Your logic is sound but Aegon's mother was a Velaryon and half Targaryen herself. Also the lore has it that Orys was Aerion Targaryen's son. But there are certain other characters who are "known" to be someone's son who really aren't, that still doesn't mean Orys didn't have "dragon blood" or Valyrian heritage.
I think you are both over thinking it and going way too far back, Robert Baratheon’s grandmother was a Targaryen, Rhaelle Targaryen.
It also more than likely that at other instances in his ancestry that he inherited Targaryen DNA but the further back you go, the less likely that is because you only inherit 50% of each parents DNA so the chance of that DNA being passed down to the next generation decreases each generation. That 50% you inherit from you parents isn’t 50% of every different bit of DNA so if a persons’ father has for example 80% Baratheon DNA and 20% Targaryen DNA it doesn’t mean they will inherit 40% of the Baratheon DNA and 10% of the Targaryen DNA, all 50% might be from the Baratheon DNA and 0% of the Targaryen DNA or 20% of the Targaryen DNA and 30% of the Baratheon DNA or any combination between those two.
That’s the reason why historically speaking Royalty has kept it in the family or someone with certain status who will have strong ties to the royal bloodline, so it gives the best chance for passing down the certain DNA from a certain bloodline which is considered more important than anything.
It’s not common knowledge because the establishment can’t acknowledge it because acknowledging it would also expose a lie and expose the fact that recent history of the monarchy has been illegitimate but the British monarch should be able to trace their bloodline to the Welsh royal bloodline and this was for a reason they can’t tell you because if they did that would expose one of the biggest lies in history, so there are two lies they are hiding.
The general population aren’t allowed to know the truth but at the same time the truth is something they need to prove to be a legitimate monarch.
The truth is a double edged sword for the monarchy, they desperately want to destroy and hide it but at the same time they need to preserve it to be legitimate and I don’t mean legitimate in the eyes of the general public but in the eyes of God.
As is the case demonstrated well in these histories and lore, the story of the history changes based on who is telling it and it’s usually the victor whose version of history is written as they controlled those who wrote it down and taught it.
I wasn’t a fan of history lessons at school but there was one lesson my primary school history teacher taught me that stuck with me and he was 100% right, there is always more than one side to a story and you should hear all sides before making an informed judgement on what is and what isn’t true because history is always written by the victor.
The story of Ned Stark is a prime example of that and how he was portrayed as a result in the Izembaro theatre performance
@@Penddraig7 you are right.. there are some targeryans who married baratheons along the line.
What i was ansering was about horus baratheon, the half brother of aegon and the fact the he didnt necesarily had targeryan blood if he came from the non targeryan side of aegon.
But yes, its true that after that, baratheons have married targeryans.
@@alexmckee4683 Also, if she had been he bastard son of the woman who was Aegon’s mother, Aegon’s father would have never married her if it happened while she was still single. If she bore an illegitimate child while married to Aegon’s father, it would have been raised as a Targeryan, much like Joffrey was. Orys being a bastard half brother of Aegon implicitly means that they had the same father.
This definitely is a lot, but you all did a good job catching the important things. It is a lot like sitting in a lecture, they throw a lot at you, really fast.
By female bloodline. Tywin means through the bloodline of one of lanns daughters. And not from a son. Which usually makes up the main branch of a noble family.
No, Jon wasn’t screwed over to be a steward, as Sam explained that the Lord commander wanted to groom him for command
Yes I really hope they come to understand this as they still seem to get Mormont and Thorne confused. Jon was made a steward not to spite him, but for his benefit. He is being groomed for command, he is one of the Lord Commander's most trusted aides, he will learn many things working directly with him, and he is being spared having to work for Thorne, who does spite him, if he was Ranger.
Hey ladies, A common theme in the GOT series is that the people who don't expect to lead often become the best leaders. --- Which is also a reflection of life. Such as her favorite characters Jon Snow and Daenerys. --- Dani rose to be a great leader because she wasn't expected to lead her family back to the throne. ------- She spent time with her servants and learn to serve them well after she walked into the fire. ---- Careful, careful, without the right compass many of these leaders can get lost. Have fun with the rest of the series.
Dude, as far as two of these ladies know, both Jon Snow and Daenerys could die in the next episode they watch. Why would you elude to them, especially Jon, as being the ruler of anything? That is a major spoiler.
A lot of these stories are repeated in other lore videos and also on the show, so don't worry if you don't get it all the first time around.
honestly speaking if their are 30 targs in history 3 of them were actually mad and 5 were driven mad by circumstance
1:03:33 she didn't convince him, Robert convince him when he sent assassin to kill his wife😊
Me parece que me lo voy a pasar muy bien con ustedes,
Lindsay esta preparada para leer el primer libro y hasta puede igualar a D&D en sus pronósticos, jeje, con Ashley voy a empatizar mucho, y que decir de la Extraordinaria, paciente e inteligente moderadora..
Muchas Gracias a las Tres por este gran rato de Canción de Hielo Y Fuego
Lindsay don't get distraught. It's a lot to take in. Learning from the lore videos fills in the blanks that most of the show doesn't show.
I pray to the seven everyday. Especially to the stranger.
1:04.02 they can't cross the sea yet cause She needs armies to get back her throne
Actually there's more videos of these. There's Jamie POV, Barristan Selmy POV, Oberyn Martell POV and others
Yes there is one for every season (or just about) of GOT!
Do you ladies think their should be a series or film made about Aegon's Conquest, and if so, who should play Aegon?
Ooo! I would love that!! So hard to say, so many amazing actors out there, and many who are not well known that could potentially rock this role! Do you have any ideas?
@MugShotzReacts The most popular actor online is Henry Cavill, some say Timothee Chalamet should. But I'm not sure yet who I would choose.
Interesting to hear how Robert brags about Lyanna being beautiful and spirited and how he loved her for that, because Cersei is also beautiful and spirited and look how he treats her when she shows how spirited and unsubmissive she is, even when she's right to do so. Robert hits Cersei and then puts the blame on her. I don't know if Lyanna would have had a better life with Robert.
Lyanna had inward beauty, Cersei had outward beauty, not the same thing lol nobody that ever described Cersei as beautiful was referring to anything but her body but people talked about Lyanna being wholly beautiful as a person. Also, Cersei is literally a sociopath in the books and I don’t think anyone ever described her as ‘spirited’ lol, maybe if they put the word ‘dark’ just before it
@@yomamma.ismydaddy216 No one ever described her like that, but she was until Robert turned her into this person who was so unhappy and resentful of life after suffering several abuses. She is also very proud, has a very strong personality and does not shut up in front of men and challenges their authority, just like Lyanna. Of course, Cersei is more on the "villains" side of the story, so these characteristics are not very appreciated in her.
@@DiegoFernandesLima no one ever described her like that? Have you read the books? Even in the show Tyrion reminds Cersei of the time when they were children and Cersei had her guards beat the servant girl who lost her eye, and that’s just one little line that actually made it into the show
@@DiegoFernandesLima not to mention what prince obryn told Tyrion about how Cersei treated Tyrion when he was born, and again that’s just another little something that actually made it into the show
@@yomamma.ismydaddy216 I meant about describing her as "spirited", sorry if I wasn't clear about that. She's definitely a sociopath and has no limits
14:00 I thought you guys were going to say Atlantis.
How would Gendry end up a pauper in Kings Landing if he was Lyanna’s child? How come he remembers his mother having blonde hair yet Lyanna had dark hair? She should ask herself these questions after making these far-fetching theories.
Best question why did the targaryen accept and make others wardens . Like torrren . That is the central question of fire and ice . And we know the answer now .
The sack of kings landing was not a heroic feat and Robert pardoning them should taken away whatever perceived bitterness there might be. The sack of kings landing was the easiest feat of the war, Robert won the throne, not twin or Jamie 😂😂 of Robert and Ned wanted to take out the lannisters for what they had done they could have at once
34:10 she is on to something. This is explained in HOTD
Glad you watched this 👍🏻
Hope you enjoyed it!
frist men were like drotraky type, later andals came whit religion and steel
Dragon-stag power lol 😂 there are a lot of Chinese dragons that have stag-like antlers so..
Both Hitler and Napoleon tried and failed invading Russia.
So is America .
You should react to The Borgia series very well written and very underrated show
Stefani, I think u should make them take tests....
Hahaha! Maybe we’ll have a final exam 🤓
45:14 He is the one who is blind
Lindsay & Ashley😀
Inquisitive questions from Lindsay, clever.
If it doesn’t work out with dany and gendry she should hook up with Mya Stone. What a couple that would be
Wait, did you really think the wall was 700 miles tall????
No 🤣 I couldn’t think of the unit of measurement haha!
Who said you were allowed to take a break? I think that's against the rules.
We stopped for a snack! lol
I want to be theyre friend
I bet Lindsay pronounces gif "jif." 😒
😂
Lindsay is very smart, don't underestimate her😊
Totally!! She picks up a lot more than people realize!
I don't like the pronunciation of the "Tyrell's" in these lore videos. 😒
RP pronunciation of "Ty" words generally matches the pronunciation in these videos. For example, tyrannical is usually pronounced like /tɪˈɹænɪkəl/ in RP, while in many North American accents it's pronounced /taɪˈɹænɪkəl/. The UK pronunciation is closer to the Latin pronunciation whereas pronouncing the "y" sound like /aɪˈ/ has its origin in a hypercorrection applied to words of (assumed) Greek origin. I myself actually pronounce it in the hypercorrected way common to North American accents despite generally having an RP accent usually, but I am aware that the pronunciation used by the various actors in these clips is more standard and usual.
I've definitely noticed different characters pronounce it in different ways!
@@alexmckee4683 yet, in the show it's pronounced differently which might throw off the ladies from what they learned the lore. I'd say the reason being is just like in Star Wars it can get you lost on which is more in use. Han Solo and Leia are huge examples of this.
Just watched your latest reaction video, and it was absolutely fantastic! 🌟 Your insights and enthusiasm really bring the content to life. By the way, I stumbled upon this amazing guide to the map of 'Game of Thrones' . Entire Game of Thrones Map/World Detailed by youtuber WhyCreate, I think you'll find intriguing: ruclips.net/video/cdC2b6IL9No/видео.html. It’s a great resource that adds even more depth to the lore. Can't wait to see more of your reactions! Keep up the great work! 👏
Thank you so much!!
you should watch history and bore...but reaction is usseless, specially if it was posted in place of a reaction to an episode
The girl in the middle kinda tells the lady with the hat to politely shut up. Its feels sad, but it seems like if they are a couple... so thats just couple's stuff. But its a little sad. Let the lady talk.. if its strays too far from topic you can always cut in the edit. But let her have her fun in her own way.
She gives the same looks i give my S.O. sometimes.
They are married.
Aegon married his sisters... but it is said that he was actually gay, so was one of the sisters. Only one of the sisters was actually in love with aegon.
fan theory
@@mymaynee5963 its not a fan theory, it is an in-universe gossip.
@@prico3358 In which book , or which episode of which show is that gossip mentioned?
Yeah this is not true in lore. Aegon loved one of his sisters more, that is all you can say. Nothing says he was gay. Stop lying
Not technically colonialism. Mass migration. Much like what happened in North America. Native Americans cross the land bridge of the Bearing Sea and invaded the new world.
Interesting theory about the children and the white walkers...
It is absolutely colonialism lol. "Mass migration" where you conquer the native people and subjugate their culture? It's ludicrous to compare it to migration to north america from siberia as there were no people in north america until then.
Colonialism improved the world.
@@GeorgeEugeneBarrettonly for the thieves and muderers doing it
7HELLZ‼️ Your editor is unnecessarily annoying. Way too much unwanted skipping and blocking. PLZ learn frm established GOT reactors. Lore is not copyrighted ytf ru skipping ish 😑 😒
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Why is the lady in the middle always so mean and moody?!
she's focused
When has she *ever* been mean *or* moody?