2024 Florida to Michigan & Back Again in a Chevy Bolt EUV I-75 Charging Stations Cross Country Trip
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- We took a trip in April 2024 from Daytona Beach Florida up I-75 to Michigan. This is a repeat of the trip we took last year when we drove to Michigan to pick up our 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV. We found a big improvement in the number of charging stations on this trip.
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Thank you to @haroldhechinger5850 for pointing out that the charger at the Atlanta area Hyatt House had the new Tesla destination charger that includes both the NACS AND a J1772 plug! Looks like we could have charged at the Hyatt but we're unsure if we could have charged at the Hilton Tru because not all Tesla destination chargers have both plugs available. We will definitely do an update video to point these out.
Yeah I agree with you on the bladder anxiety and so forth. People talk about having cars with 500 miles of range. My arse does not have 500 miles of range, so it's a moot point.
Lol! So true! Thanks for commenting.
You can purchase a Tesla to ccs adapter for destination chargers like what you saw at hotels. The fast or dc charging is the one that we as Chevy owners are waiting on. I have one I use to access Tesla destation chargers. These are lvl 2 or destination chargers
Thanks for watching and for your comment. We know about the after market adapters and we know people use them but we also know that some have had problems that affect their batteries so we are unwilling to risk using a non-OEM adapter.
I did the same thing with my ID.4 on a Tesla destination charger. Car did just fine.
Is it different from a NACS to J1772 adapter if charging a Bolt
im from ohio and we are getting our first buc-ee's in the state. they said its going to be the biggest in the country. i cant wait.
They're pretty fun and exciting. Congratulations!
Fyi, it is lima as in lima bean. Hence, the nickname here of bean town. Great video. I just got a 22 euv myself.
Thanks for watching and for the correction! Enjoy your EUV!
great vid, I am planning to take my 23 Chevy Bolt from San Francisco to Colorado Springs(and then back again) next week, so this vid gives me a lot of things to think about regarding planning for charging and having a plan b in place just in case, thanks and good luck on future travels
Thanks for your comment and we're so glad you found the video helpful! Good luck with your trip and hope you're having fun with your Bolt!
The Tesla Destination Charger to J1772 adapter is different than the SuperCharger to CCS adapter.
You do not need software support for the Level 2 adapter as all it is doing is connecting AC power to the car, so it can use its on-board charger to replenish the battery.
Thank you for watching! Yes - we didn't realize that the Hyatt had the J1772 plug on their Tesla Destination chargers. We will probably do a video once we get to try one of those...
At 14:46, there is a J1772 plug coiled on the charger. Some Tesla 'Destination' chargers will have the J1772 plug rather than the Tesla plug. I used a Tesla Paided Level 2 charger using a J1772 plug, but I had to use the app to pay for it.
Fastest AC Charge on my ID.4 -- 11KW.
Wow! That is interesting! We did look at the Hilton Tru plug and it didn't match our vehicle but we didn't check the Hyatt plugs because we assumed that they were the same. That's definitely on us! Ok - we need to check these out and do an update video. Thanks for your comment!
Edited to add: We just took a look at a video of the Tesla charger with the J1772 adapter and saw that it could still be inside the unit so we're not sure if that Tru by Hilton had a compatible charger or not. Definitely calling this one user error!
I would also get a J1772 to Tesla adaptor that can be used on most destination chargers.
Chevy using level II (hotel) destination chargers is open the Chevy Bolts. You just need a level 2 adapter. This is different from the level 3 Tesla Fast charging network. Destination chargers donn't even require the Tesla Ap. Just plug in and charge just as you do in home charging.
Thanks for watching and for your comment. We know about the after market adapters and we know people use them but we also know that some have had problems that affect their batteries so we are unwilling to risk using a non-OEM adapter. We've read reports that they're not all app-less charging i.e. depends on the property owner but we don't have any personal experience on that.
@@paradisetoday Nice video. You won't find an OEM Level 2 adapter from Tesla/NACS to J1772. There are plenty of reliable 3rd party adapters available. Look at Lectron. On Level 2 (A/C) charging the vehicle controls the charging and will stop if there is an issue. Be sure to pick up a level 2 adapter that is rated for 60a to have plenty of overhead and it won't be an issue or get warm from current.
Thank you for watching and for your comment. A 3rd party adapter is just something we can't endorse. Lectron's NACS to CCS1 adapter was just recalled. Yes it's DC fast but the recall was based on a defect of the hardware locking mechanism which was to secure the adapter. Adapters are just not for us.
@@paradisetoday you are not understanding the difference between DC charging and Level 2 AC charging. None of Lectrons AC adapters have been recalled.
Sorry for the confusion - what I wrote is "Yes, it's DC fast..." meaning that I'm aware that it's not Level 2. Just because the Level 2 hasn't been recalled doesn't mean we feel comfortable using it. An "adapter" is just that - it's a "work around" to make something fit where it doesn't belong. We are making the choice not to go that route but we don't judge anyone who does.
Glad you're enjoying your Bolt! I totally agree on the bladder being the major factor in needing stops rather than charging. 😁
We've been up and down I-75 from Tampa to Cincinnati and on to north central Ohio many times in our Bolt EUV and Ioniq 5. As several people have already pointed out, the Tesla destination charger adapters are quite safe as long as you don't cheap out on one. Many people confuse the destination chargers and the Super Chargers. Totally different situation.
Also, stay away from that junky EA in Knoxville. The Pilot/Flying J just to the west on Watt Road is Pilot/Flying J's flagship charging station. It's a little pricey as are all of those chargers, but way better than dealing with Electrify America's junk yard. The only caveat there is that it's not well situated for all the truck traffic and it can be a little hard to get back out of there. They have another great charger with a canopy up in Georgetown KY just north of the junky EA chargers at the next exit south of there.
I recommend abandoning the Chevy app for trip planning and stick to Plugshare. It's vastly better. You'll want to spend a few minutes setting up the filters for your needs and preferences, but then it's really sweet, especially if you make an account, plan the trip on your computer and then save it so you can open it up on your phone as you travel. We have about 14,000 miles of road tripping so far on the Bolt and now roughly 3,400 on the Ioniq 5, and Plugshare is all I use anymore.
Happy travels!
Thanks for watching and for your comments. We'll be going to more of the Pilot/Flying Js as they're rolling out more EV chargers so thanks for the tip. We use Maps+ not the Chevy app. Maps+ allows us to check for nearest EV stations and on-your-route stations in real time while driving (on the car's infotainment screen) and it really helped us out a couple of times. We did use Plugshare for our 2023 trip and it was helpful but thankfully finding charging stations got a lot easier on our route this year and, fingers crossed, the planning aspects of EV long distance travel will become a thing of the past soon!
Great video! I am sort of shocked to see you using the Chevrolet maps app somewhat successfully. Every time I have tried it, it routes me to chargers that are likely not available or behind fences and it recommends charging from very low to 100% which would take almost 2 hours. I build out my route using PlugShare and I pick only chargers with 9 or above plug scores and then I enter the stops into A Better Route Planner to give me the exact recommended charging times at each stop. The app is not perfect but it accounts for elevation changes and temperature. I also have an ODB2 dongle that connects to A Better Route Planner so it can give me real time updates on my state of charge and expected remaining charge upon arrival at the next station. It worked great on my last trip.
Unfortunately the I 20 corridor in Mississippi my home state is not that well built out yet but with loves and pilot flying j it should be improving soon
We're feeling the same way - things are coming along!
Get an adapter, I'm pretty sure you can use tesla destination chargers on any electric car. Fyi
There isn't an adapter for us yet made by Chevy and we're leery of using an aftermarket one at the destination chargers BUT we did discover that the one at the Hyatt had the correct attachment where we could have charged so hopefully there will be enough of the newer style Tesla destination chargers being rolled out where you won't even need an adapter.
@@paradisetoday 👍🏼
From your average kw/min/charge it looks like you did most of your charging when your battery was over half full. It looks like the best charge curve for the EUV is from about 20-55% SOC, but 10-55% would also be better than your average. You averaged about .68/kw/min when charging but from 20->55% the EUV should average about .85kw/min and 10->55% SOC would be about .8kw/min. Charging from 10 or 20% ->55% per charging session would have reduced total charging time by about 18% or ~213 min or ~3.5 hours.
That's a lot of breakdown 👍 I'm not sure we could optimize that well because time to pee/eat is always going to throw us off the pace 🤣
Thanks for posting! What apps or payment did you use for each charging stations? Did you have to download their apps or can you just tap and pay?
Hi, thanks for watching! We put on the apps for most of the charge stations (some provide a discount if using the app). Some of the EV charge vendors do allow for swipe and pay at the charger. In this video, we paid with a credit card at Costco and RedE but used the apps everywhere else.
Thanks for the reply. I have and really like my Bolt EUV coming from Canada wonder how paying would be? Upstate New York had no problems
How many miles per watt-hour did you get on the trip?
Just for the trip was 3.4. We get around 4 for around town.
It seems like a mix of L2 Chargers would be good for slower travel, save $ when you have the time, are there many available? It seems like L2 is getting left out of the rush for fast chargers. It would be great to see high amperage 48 amp L2s.
Totally agree! We do use them (there are some at Disney World). The hotels seem to be the ones that have them which makes sense. They do come in handy for slower travel and the Chevy app does point them out along the way and they seemed to be more plentiful than the high speed chargers. Just saw that the Grizzl-E company now makes an affordable (around $700) 80 watt Level 2 Home charger which will hopefully have the ability to be used in retail locations. These kinds of products could revolutionize parking lots all over the country to be EV friendly! Imagine being able to get a few miles added to your battery just about anywhere - your dentist's office, pharmacy, library, your friend's condo...
The supercharger layoffs are what made me lean into buying a used Bolt EUV over a used Tesla. If they are laying off the entire team of a product line that we all know is very good (Tesla Super Charger Network) then it bodes very poorly to their future endeavors as a company. Whats next, their engineers will invent batteries that last twice as long, then they all get layoffs after doing a good job. Not something that I want to be part of.
We have a '23 Bolt EUV and want to take our granddaughter to see the Porcupine Mountins. A Better Route Planner took us across Lake Michigan and up through Wisconsin, lol. Round trip on the Badger was nearly $500! Lots of campgrounds, but not sure if or how we could access them. Thanks for an interesting video. Quick question. GM has a part number for an adapter to use with Tesla Superchargers. Do you know if you could use it with those destination Tesla chargers? Those are not really part of the Tesla network, right? We plan to order one as soon as we can.
We actually think campgrounds would be worthwhile if you have to stay overnight but we hate putting up tents so we would be trying to sleep in the Bolt. That would be a fun video to make. Anyway - we haven't seen the part release you're talking about. Could you reply with the part number? We'd love to try to find out more about it. Also, not sure if you saw it but I did pin a note to the video that some of the newer Tesla destination chargers DO also include a J1772 plug so we might have been able to use that charger at the Hyatt in Atlanta. Those destination chargers aren't part of the supercharger network.
You can 100% use a Tesla to J1772 adapter to charge any EV from a Tesla Level 2 charger, the superchargers are the ones we’re blocked from currently. Technically the owners of these boxes could flip a setting to not allow this, but I’ve yet to find one that does.
Thanks for your comment. I should have worded it better - we're not comfortable using aftermarket adapters BUT (and I pinned a comment on this) looks like Tesla came out with a destination charger at the end of last year that has a J1772 cord in addition to their proprietary charger. The Hyatt House seemed to have had at least one that we missed out on using.
@@paradisetoday My 70-something parents have charged their ID.4 on road trips at hotels that have Tesla destination chargers, doing exactly what @TechKingGame states, using an aftermarket adapter.
The last thing on my mind when planning a trip is fueling up with.... Gas
The last time I bought gasoline I spent $110.00. Now I drive for three cents a mile. 500 miles is 15 bucks.