turn8 profile is fine, the issue is the location of the iinside armco with its proximity to the curb, there is sparce to push it back closer to the wall.
Race 1 was so-so, great drive from Feeney, but congratulations to Will Brown on a superb season, thoroughly deserving champion. Race 2 though, what did everyone have for breakfast, especially near the end! Not sure why Feeney losing both wing mirrors wasn't looked at as a safety issue, but I guess he still had the rear view mirror in his car. Will Davison finished the year strongly (a little gutted that Randle nicked the podium from him). Randle has had a really strong end to the season, as has Kostecki. Bodes well for next year. The final standings with top-15 points: Note: it turns out that I've been misleading you about Tim Slade's total over the last few rounds; somehow I'd managed to conspire to give him an extra five points from somewhere! His total here is now correct. 1st Will Brown 625 2nd Broc Feeney 546 3rd Chaz Mostert 475 4th Cameron Waters 464 5th Matthew Payne 329 6th Thomas Randle 290 7th James Golding 255 8th Brodie Kostecki 243 9th Anton de Pasquale 237 10th Will Davison 233 11th Nick Percat 225 12th Andre Heimgartner 215 13th Jack Le Brocq 215 14th Cameron Hill 174 15th David Reynolds 171 16th Richie Stanaway 170 17th Ryan Wood 144 18th Mark Winterbottom 128 19th Scott Pye 123 20th Jamie Whincup 120 21st Bryce Fullwood 117 22nd Todd Hazelwood 116 23rd Tim Slade 93 24th David Russell 87 25th James Moffat 81 26th Lee Holdsworth 72 27th James Courtney 67 28th Cooper Murray 48 29th Craig Lowndes 48 30th Cameron Crick 48 31st Garth Tander 45 32nd Tony D'Alberto 42 33rd Jayden Ojeda 30 34th Warren Luff 30 35th Tyler Everingham 30 36th Jaxon Evans 29 37th Dale Wood 27 38th Jaylyn Robotham 27 39th Declan Fraser 18 40th Macauley Jones 17 41st Cameron McLeod 15 42nd Kai Allen 15 43rd Aaron Love 13 44th Jordan Boys 12 45th Fabian Coulthard 12 46th Michael Caruso 0 47th Dylan O'Keeffe 0 48th Aaron Cameron 0 49th Jack Perkins 0 50th Matt Chadha/Bradley Vaughan 0 52nd Dean Fiore 0 53rd Lachlan Dalton 0 Teams: 1st Triple Eight (87/88) 1171 2nd Tickford (6/55) 754 3rd WAU 619 4th Erebus 502 5th Grove 500 6th DJR 470 7th MSR 399 8th PremiAir 348 9th BJR (8/14) 332 10th Team 18 299 11th BRT 80 12th Triple Eight (888) 48 13th BJR (12(50)/96) 46 14th MCR 0 15th Tickford (5) 0 Manufacturers: 1st Chevrolet 1335 2nd Ford 1200
And using the possible Finals Series format, well, it wouldn't have changed who the champion was at least! Adelaide reset after Surfers Paradise: 1st Will Brown 5050 2nd Broc Feeney 5030 3rd Cameron Waters 5015 4th Thomas Randle 5000 ------- 5th Matthew Payne 4261 6th Chaz Mostert 4246 7th James Golding 4189 8th Nick Percat 4156 9th Will Davison 4114 10th Anton de Pasquale 4102 Adelaide R1: 1st Will Brown 5188 2nd Broc Feeney 5180 3rd Cameron Waters 5144 4th Thomas Randle 5111 ---------- 5th Matthew Payne 4381 6th Chaz Mostert 4312 7th James Golding 4249 8th Nick Percat 4219 9th Anton de Pasquale 4186 10th Will Davison 4183 Adelaide R2: 1st Will Brown 5338 2nd Broc Feeney 5276 3rd Thomas Randle 5240 4th Cameron Waters 5222 ---------- 5th Chaz Mostert 4450 6th Matthew Payne 4417 7th James Golding 4339 8th Nick Percat 4330 9th Will Davison 4303 10th Anton de Pasquale 4246
@@dominicbarden4436 Different circumstances though if Broc was only 8 pts behind Brown on the second day he would've happily taken second and would've been more cautious. Cheers for the points update under the finals format 👍
Simple answer for turn 8. just add a safer barrier and bring the Armco away a bit, safer barrier will reduce the risk of injury to the drivers and bringing the Armco away from the kerb will will give the drivers a bit more room for error. We still want turn 8 to have the same profile as that’s what makes the corner famous and exciting
It’s not the turn itself. It’s more 2 things. 1- the turn in point the curb on approach needs reprofiling as it upsets the car. If you just touch it which makes the car uneasy intend to oversteer wide. The second one is the gen three cars. They’re caring less downforce than previous generations which to unsettled the car when you hit inside curb as mentioned before the only way to do it would be to move terminate to move that barrier further out like it was several years ago.
@@Grant80 good point, I definitely agree that the gen 3 cars play a big part. It does not help that every wheel falls off the cars when contact is made with a wall therefore losing contact with the road and loss of brakes to retard the speed
how will adding what is essentially a spring help? dont you think that would shoot the cars off the wall faster across the other side of the track into oncoming traffic? you didnt think about that one did you? Moving the armco closer to the inside wall is the better solution
@@brad.979. hahah calm down Brad 🤣 um not sure if you seen but 2 out of the 4 cars that crashed shot across the other side of the track anyway without a safer barrier… didn’t think about that one did you. Safer barriers absorb a lot of the impact so naturally reduces the risk of injury and can also reduce the amount of damage on the cars, the concrete wall is what is making the cars fall apart and resulting in huge crashes, with a safer barrier at least they’d have half a chance to pedal it down without being completely out of control due to having no wheels. as I stated I don’t believe that would make a huge difference because they shoot across the track as it is. Without the cars being made more robust they’re always going to be unpredictable in a shunt
Racing was good even on Saturday even though we didn't really have a battle for the lead. Cars could follow closely and overtake however it's still hard to overtake at the front even though it appears Broc had better pace than Chaz. Great weekend overall, fast racing and plenty of drama. Also seems like Whincup is not happy with Broc even though he has more wins and poles than Will, with Broc out of contract next year I suppose he'll be in the market for a new driver.
I think Supercars needs to look at how they hand out penalties. More consistancy would be nice. It shoudn't matter if your running first or last in the championship, or which team your driving for. If the offence is similar to another, the same penalty should apply.
turn8 profile is fine, the issue is the location of the iinside armco with its proximity to the curb, there is sparce to push it back closer to the wall.
Correct.
Why the different intro music Dave??
Race 1 was so-so, great drive from Feeney, but congratulations to Will Brown on a superb season, thoroughly deserving champion.
Race 2 though, what did everyone have for breakfast, especially near the end! Not sure why Feeney losing both wing mirrors wasn't looked at as a safety issue, but I guess he still had the rear view mirror in his car. Will Davison finished the year strongly (a little gutted that Randle nicked the podium from him). Randle has had a really strong end to the season, as has Kostecki. Bodes well for next year.
The final standings with top-15 points:
Note: it turns out that I've been misleading you about Tim Slade's total over the last few rounds; somehow I'd managed to conspire to give him an extra five points from somewhere! His total here is now correct.
1st Will Brown 625
2nd Broc Feeney 546
3rd Chaz Mostert 475
4th Cameron Waters 464
5th Matthew Payne 329
6th Thomas Randle 290
7th James Golding 255
8th Brodie Kostecki 243
9th Anton de Pasquale 237
10th Will Davison 233
11th Nick Percat 225
12th Andre Heimgartner 215
13th Jack Le Brocq 215
14th Cameron Hill 174
15th David Reynolds 171
16th Richie Stanaway 170
17th Ryan Wood 144
18th Mark Winterbottom 128
19th Scott Pye 123
20th Jamie Whincup 120
21st Bryce Fullwood 117
22nd Todd Hazelwood 116
23rd Tim Slade 93
24th David Russell 87
25th James Moffat 81
26th Lee Holdsworth 72
27th James Courtney 67
28th Cooper Murray 48
29th Craig Lowndes 48
30th Cameron Crick 48
31st Garth Tander 45
32nd Tony D'Alberto 42
33rd Jayden Ojeda 30
34th Warren Luff 30
35th Tyler Everingham 30
36th Jaxon Evans 29
37th Dale Wood 27
38th Jaylyn Robotham 27
39th Declan Fraser 18
40th Macauley Jones 17
41st Cameron McLeod 15
42nd Kai Allen 15
43rd Aaron Love 13
44th Jordan Boys 12
45th Fabian Coulthard 12
46th Michael Caruso 0
47th Dylan O'Keeffe 0
48th Aaron Cameron 0
49th Jack Perkins 0
50th Matt Chadha/Bradley Vaughan 0
52nd Dean Fiore 0
53rd Lachlan Dalton 0
Teams:
1st Triple Eight (87/88) 1171
2nd Tickford (6/55) 754
3rd WAU 619
4th Erebus 502
5th Grove 500
6th DJR 470
7th MSR 399
8th PremiAir 348
9th BJR (8/14) 332
10th Team 18 299
11th BRT 80
12th Triple Eight (888) 48
13th BJR (12(50)/96) 46
14th MCR 0
15th Tickford (5) 0
Manufacturers:
1st Chevrolet 1335
2nd Ford 1200
And using the possible Finals Series format, well, it wouldn't have changed who the champion was at least!
Adelaide reset after Surfers Paradise:
1st Will Brown 5050
2nd Broc Feeney 5030
3rd Cameron Waters 5015
4th Thomas Randle 5000
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5th Matthew Payne 4261
6th Chaz Mostert 4246
7th James Golding 4189
8th Nick Percat 4156
9th Will Davison 4114
10th Anton de Pasquale 4102
Adelaide R1:
1st Will Brown 5188
2nd Broc Feeney 5180
3rd Cameron Waters 5144
4th Thomas Randle 5111
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5th Matthew Payne 4381
6th Chaz Mostert 4312
7th James Golding 4249
8th Nick Percat 4219
9th Anton de Pasquale 4186
10th Will Davison 4183
Adelaide R2:
1st Will Brown 5338
2nd Broc Feeney 5276
3rd Thomas Randle 5240
4th Cameron Waters 5222
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5th Chaz Mostert 4450
6th Matthew Payne 4417
7th James Golding 4339
8th Nick Percat 4330
9th Will Davison 4303
10th Anton de Pasquale 4246
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Different circumstances though if Broc was only 8 pts behind Brown on the second day he would've happily taken second and would've been more cautious.
Cheers for the points update under the finals format 👍
Simple answer for turn 8. just add a safer barrier and bring the Armco away a bit, safer barrier will reduce the risk of injury to the drivers and bringing the Armco away from the kerb will will give the drivers a bit more room for error. We still want turn 8 to have the same profile as that’s what makes the corner famous and exciting
It’s not the turn itself. It’s more 2 things. 1- the turn in point the curb on approach needs reprofiling as it upsets the car. If you just touch it which makes the car uneasy intend to oversteer wide. The second one is the gen three cars. They’re caring less downforce than previous generations which to unsettled the car when you hit inside curb as mentioned before the only way to do it would be to move terminate to move that barrier further out like it was several years ago.
@@Grant80 good point, I definitely agree that the gen 3 cars play a big part. It does not help that every wheel falls off the cars when contact is made with a wall therefore losing contact with the road and loss of brakes to retard the speed
how will adding what is essentially a spring help? dont you think that would shoot the cars off the wall faster across the other side of the track into oncoming traffic? you didnt think about that one did you? Moving the armco closer to the inside wall is the better solution
@@brad.979. hahah calm down Brad 🤣 um not sure if you seen but 2 out of the 4 cars that crashed shot across the other side of the track anyway without a safer barrier… didn’t think about that one did you. Safer barriers absorb a lot of the impact so naturally reduces the risk of injury and can also reduce the amount of damage on the cars, the concrete wall is what is making the cars fall apart and resulting in huge crashes, with a safer barrier at least they’d have half a chance to pedal it down without being completely out of control due to having no wheels. as I stated I don’t believe that would make a huge difference because they shoot across the track as it is. Without the cars being made more robust they’re always going to be unpredictable in a shunt
@HowYaGoin.88 no I did not see the cars hit the wall and di that, eveytime it happened I blinked and was staring at the sky
Well done brown
Racing was good even on Saturday even though we didn't really have a battle for the lead. Cars could follow closely and overtake however it's still hard to overtake at the front even though it appears Broc had better pace than Chaz.
Great weekend overall, fast racing and plenty of drama. Also seems like Whincup is not happy with Broc even though he has more wins and poles than Will, with Broc out of contract next year I suppose he'll be in the market for a new driver.
Helps to become champion when u have the other side hobbled
I think Supercars needs to look at how they hand out penalties. More consistancy would be nice. It shoudn't matter if your running first or last in the championship, or which team your driving for. If the offence is similar to another, the same penalty should apply.