The Alternative Covid Inquiry - UnHerd LIVE
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
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The British Covid inquiry was supposed to uncover and debate the mistakes made by the government during the pandemic years. And yet, many of the figures now proven to have been voicing legitimate concerns about lockdowns, vaccine mandates and the country's future post-Covid were nowhere to be seen. Join UnHerd's Freddie Sayers, Oxford professor of theoretical epidemiology Sunetra Gupta, Swedish journalist and author of 'The Herd' Johan Anderberg and author of 'The Covid Consensus' Thomas Fazi, for an alternative take on the UK's pandemic legacy.
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Thank you for that.
I’m glad of that. The sound was very faint.
I watched with my soundbar on full blast and the remote control in my hand ready to hit mute when the adverts came on 😂 great conversation as always. Cheers
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All I know is that I will never ever forget or forgive this overreach by governments worldwide.
Governments controlled by corporations (Wall Street). It didn't happen in a vacuum.
Governments can never be trusted again after this. The casualties are going to be millions within a decade.
Me too
Governments acting in the interests of corporations. There's a clear difference. Governments didn't simply wake up one morning and decide to coordinate this atrocity with seamless precision on their own.
Overreach by governments world wide shows just how far the rot has gone. This doesn't happen overnight, something like this is planned and executed. Corruption of all western govts has been happening for years. A close look at all the international agreements signed by most of them will reveal that they are working for different masters than their population. Follow the money, follow the power and watch who they get employed by after they finish their terms.
It is still happening.
I was horrified at how those who chose not to get vaccinated were treated, basically like criminals and lepers. I was one of them and I will NEVER forget.
Sadly, those very same people have learned nothing. 😕
_" Never underestimate the dumbing-down of society. "_
I was horrified too and spoke out for you, and I had jabs... It is absolutely wrong what they did.
Sounds like Hyperbole.
@@unachimba9if you didn't live through it you won't know. Lost my job of fourteen years. Heard people at work say they should poison our water. I'm in Canada the prime minister was ostracizing us with his speech. My massage therapist made disgust faces and didn't want to touch me. Friends said I don't deserve health care when I get sick.
@@fpalisse So I didnt live through the pandemic, I was born in 2024? Pretty sure I in fact did live through it too. Look if you are going to write thing like this then its hyperbole.
It's unbelievably naive to think it was all one dreadful mistake.
Excess deaths from midazalpam given to older people. See Dr John Campbell latest
It's PATHETIC....they're just not talking about the ELEPHANT in the room
The woman in green wants to keep her job
CANNOT believe she thinks the Jab was good
Well, there's no such thing as an accident because was it avoidable?
@@annabelmoodie9992 YES! They were NOT true Vaccines..
Couldn't agree with you more. These lot a perfect example of 'controlled oposition'. Having the appearance of an oposition, but controlled by the same 'masters'
During the pandemic I followed the science; which means I didn't lock myself down, I didn't wear a mask, and I didn't take the jab. Never knowingly got Covid either.
The flu disappeared for 2 years and now it's back again. 🤫🤫😉
Were you not afraid to catch an invisible disease with no symptoms and then pass that disease on to someone else who would also not have any symptoms and then that person would give it to their Grandma who would have a %0.03 of dying from it?
@@slash_emcovid was mild, but it definitely existed. U sound crazy
@@somethinderpsterious It still exists. The natural trend with pathogens is that they become more transmissible but less harmful. After all, if you kill the host that's not a very effective evolutionary strategy. Unherd was on the right side of history for the pandemic. It's a shame (on them) we cant say the same about where Gaza and its illegal colonizer and oppressor are concerned.
@@somethinderpsterious They themselves said that the rational for making healthy symptom free people wear a mask all day at work (which I was forced to do at my factory job cutting 800 pound copper sheets in a heavy industrial milling machine) was that an apparantly healthy and symptom free peron could "carry the virus." By extension that means that the process I described in my comment was the whole reason for all the insanity of keeping healthy symptom free people from associating with other healthy symptom free people at say, church, or Thanksgiving dinner. They themselves said it was because a chain of invisible carriers could eventually kill somebody's grandma. Average age of those whos lives were cut short by covid? 80 something.
No matter what people call me, for me this has been a large scale social experiment, checking how far you can push people and how much power one can abuse until people push back
Unfortunately it was not ONLY a social experiment -"experiment "in many areas-very sinister imho
Strongly agree. Now they know the percentage of the masses that are willing to comply. Covid was merely a test balloon.
Technically know as a " Shit Test "
How much can we get away with before people say NO.
Just dipping their toe in to assess the temperature. They'll fully jump in very soon. I don't know why, but with elections coming up this year in many western countries... 🫣
I think they've woken up more people than they expected though. They pushed their agenda to early
The fellow wearing the blue shirt with black hair is spot on. The propaganda was extreme
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Yes he is. I was starting to get hot under the collar lol.
What a stupid intrusion by the host. He doesn't even know what he's doing. He needs to defend his lifestyle subconsciously...But the constant, mandated vaccinations of "Optimism" he NEEDS to inject into the conversation, were much more pernicious than even he knows.
Everyone who kept calling for "normal" while arresting families for having Thanksgiving dinner, need to look into the mirror. But the NEVER WILL, they constantly dose themselves with Soma...I mean optimism, and won't look at their own shadow, their own behavior. I remember specific posts on FaceBook that seemed normal at the time, that I will never forget, from some of my good friends from childhood...Which they would be humiliated if I read them now. Anyone who constantly beggars "optimism", is actually demanding that their worldview be protected, and that the systems which contributed to the collapse of sanity be maintained...And we come up with a simple answer, for what happened...So nobody truly investigates that time from an objective, historical perspective.
When they talk about Sweden's constitution, he tries to make sense of the success and mumbles "Policy" while the Swedish guy answers.
NO...NOT POLICY. No policy is what keeps the lights on, makes it so that you get what you order when going through the drive through.
Absolutely agree.
@@SubvertTheStateThe Host is a Disgrace
The FACT that the British government deployed the Armies psychological warfare brigade to conduct psychological warefare on its own people was reprehensible
Not a vaccine but GMO
They actually had to modify the definition of the word Vaccine in order to call the mRNA shots vaccines, which they're clearly not.
Truth. Astra Zenica had to receive genetically modified organism approval to move forward with their product in Australia.
These leaders have destroyed my life..Still no doctors will help. If you don't have money you can't get treatment, because IVIG or phasmaphresis or ozone or hyperbolic oxygen. So u lay at home waiting to die.
GENE THERAPY
Without a license.
If nobody is accountable for this tragedy it will come back again, so many people have been hurt, so many people suffer from side effects of the injection how is it possible to turn a blind eye to it ?
Cash and power
according to bridgen the very senior tory who was instrumental in getting him kicked out, told bridgen in 20 years or so you will be proved to be right but their is no political will to even discuss what you are saying. notice the establishment have not denied this, which makes it believable.
By throwing stones blinding & silencing those injured.
It is coming back. In 2025. I'd love to be wrong but my gut instincts say that's what was behind the Gl9balists desire for power to impose lockdowns, define pandemic, info-demics etc.
They didn't go to all that trouble not to use it...🤔
Control of mainstream media makes it possible.
The dark haired man with the blue shirt is the only one of you who sees clearly
His name is Thomas. Only one not naive.
100% a propaganda campaign
Thomas Fazi. Brilliant man.
It was a deliberate planned operation . Here in France unvxd were ostracised, sacked, etc. Early treatment with Ivermectin, Hydroxy chloroquine was forbidden. Doctors were told to recommend people testing positive stay home and take a Doliprane . Hospital admissions were often far too late and the illness too far gone. Deliberate.
In Old people's homes, there was liberal use of Midazolam & Morphine to cadaver people. How were they treated in France?
Watch Dr John Campbell latest on excess deaths and older people being given midazalpam. Horrific
Same in Australia. Sacked for no jab, denied entry in many places, including my dads pacemaker check location. No jobs available even when working alone all day(govt or council and many others too scared to rock the boat). Hospitals and emergency workers lost huge numbers of staff at a time when it should not have happened. Stupidity ruled. Not enough thought it through and resisted. When they didn't believe they still went alo g with it. How?
The fauci death protocols.
Judith, did you see the film "Maltraites" produced in France quite early on? Very good
If incompetence was to blame, they would have done some things right, but when EVERYTHING done was the opposite of good, the strong possibility of a conspiracy emerges
This ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ This
They told you to stay indoors when you would have been safer outside,
they moved infected elderly into care homes,
they put people on ventilators … ooops
they gave people midazolam who might have recovered,
they told you to wear masks that were useless,
they stopped you going to the gym when staying fit would reduce your risk
they told you the jab was safe though they had zero evidence of long-term safety,
they told pregnant women to get vaccinated,
they inoculate millions of children who had already had the disease,
they told you natural acquired immunity would not protect you,
they told you the jab would stop the spread,
they told you the jab would stop you catching covid,
they told you nobody is safe until everybody is safe when 99.5% were not at risk anyway,
they banned early antiviral treatment,
they told you vitamin D was of not use whatsoever,
they told you the spike proteins would stay in your arm,
they told you disruption of your menstrual cycle was nothing to worry about,
they told you there's a thing called 'mild' myocarditis,
they told you it came from an animal when they knew it came from a lab,
they told you death is knocking at your door - it wasn’t,
they refuse to acknowledge the current high levels of excess deaths,
The list goes on and on.
Everything government did and said was the OPPOSITE of what should have been done and said.
We are in the hands of fools. Or worse.
Exactly right.
They wouldn't have banned IVM.... even in places it was over the counter... And HCQ
@donnazukadley7300 good point
IN AUSTRALIA WE ARE PUSHING FOR A ROYAL COMMISSION HEARING FOR ALL THAT WERE INVOLVED THROUGH THE
INSANITY IN MANDATING AND COERCING PEOPLE OF THESE VACCINES ALL NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!!
Won't get any more than we got whilst we have a Labor government in charge. They were the driving force behind the hysteria so will not be agreeing to out themselves no matter what. Liberals followed behind and were almost as bad. I think it's clear the CIA run both our 2PP. Australians too dumbed down to vote Independents in everywhere instead.
A royal commission you say??
…Good luck with that.
Don’t expect the perpetrators to investigate themselves and admit wrongdoing
They’re the problem.
"it was endorsed by the public" no it was not!!!!! it was FORCED uppon the public!
Yes using lies, threats, coercion, extortion, restrictions, and a military style psychological operation!
and MOST Governments are in the process of enabling the WHO to lock us all down, as and when THEY deem it needed...are the Media talking about this CATASTROPHIC Probability? HAH!
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I am a qualified registered nurse of 40 years. I weas sacked because I refused the jab here in NZ. Midwives took their case to court and tge judge found against them. No lawyer will take us on. I followed the Great Barrington gang from the get go. I signed the declaration. Most NZ nurses and doctors don't even know about it and were forbidden from giving exemptions. I cheered the Swedes on for their common sense mangement. I will never follow govt orders again. They are unworthy of any respect. Thanks guys for your alternative inquiry.
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lol you are shocked a hospital would want their employee's vaccinated?
Actually Sweden followed the science unlike most of the countries which followed Dr Mengele on steroids and WHO whose director general Tedros Ghabrayesus, (one of China's clients from his terrorist past). Nothig in the repressive measures was based on science.
At first in the US the government asked doctors to share treatment ideas. Very quickly the same government agencies sent threatening emails and letters telling them that if they shared alternative treatment ideas they would loose their licensees. I disagree that it what just a cockup, it was so coordinated and all encompassing.
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Alarm bells went off for me when our organic veg delivery driver Terry from Farmaround told me on my doorstep he'd just had his jab, later that week he was found dead of a blood clot.
Coincidence has gotten awfully dangerous recently
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really awful x
37:20 … I love Sunetra, but she’s lost the plot here.
Deaths of people under 40 from heart failure, and from cancer, are INCREASING … But it is FOUR YEARS since lockdown … Blaming heart attacks and cancer on lockdowns four years after the event is a bit of a stretch.
Yes Sunetra has shown herself to be of doubtful knowledge here.
She defended it by saying that Sweden had 97% vax rate (I wonder how many shots/ boosters they took on average) yet haven't seen excess deaths, (if I remember correctly).
But she keeps referring to the,"minor" increase in deaths .... ??? Maybe she owns Pfizer stock, who knows? Anyway she seems less than aware of many aspects of the whole debacle, preplanning, heart and blood clot problems etc
Gupta continues pushing the JABBY as a success, conveniently ignoring that Big Pharma’s “Keep Them All Locked Up Until Everyone is Jabbed” project , was the excuse used to extend lockdowns in the first place !
Yes I thought that, maybe Dr Gupta has been told to give a dumbed down reason for why governments got it so wrong.
Another 2 football players in Italy's top league had heart attacks just last week.
As an American citizen, I have appreciated the civil, intelligent, and measured discourse I have experienced in general on Unherd,
including with your panel today. However, given the multiple corrupt angles on this topic, along with the beneficiaries from these corruptions, that I think a bit more outrage could be appropriate. Thank you.
Yes, disappointing, focussing particularly on lockdowns. In Australia people continue to die from turbo cancers and these are our friends and relatives. We are still being advised to be vaxxed!
Obviously this panel is completely unaware of Event 201 in October 2019 that set out exactly what happened in 2020.
This "inquiry" is the definition of a limited hangout. Pretend to ask questions, then move on.
Or Operation Dark Winter. Or Operation Catastrophic Contagion.
I heard about this in the very beginning in 2020. Nobody ever mentions it again, not even channels that are/were calling out the propaganda.
Why does nobody talk about this??
Last year the same people who had Event 201 had a meeting called Cyber Polygon, they have wondered what would happen if we have a full scale cyber attack, if you want to know the out come they have even made a lovely website to let us know. Easy to find.👍
Yeah "unaware".. surely.. "unaware"
The main source of propaganda is not social media which is varied and makes clear its biases, but legacy media which exists to transmit government policy.
Billionaires and the Legacy media owns most "alternative" media?
@@grantperkins368 So ???.
There is an existential difference between Legacy media and Social media. Look up the definition of propaganda … Now you know what legacy media is.
Correct.
Especially previously "Trusted" sources like the UK BBC and Guardian, which have become the Government's propaganda outlets on ALL controversies..
@@grantperkins368felt pretty much herded through that?
Thank you FLORIDA Governor DeSantis for having consulted with Sunetra (Kuldorff & Bhattacharya) and others and keeping Florida open.
He showed excellent leadership and state autonomy.
He is amazing 👏
DeSANTIS helped kill off lots of Trumpers with his anti science approach! Respect to him!
Joseph Abiodun Ladapo is the surgeon general of Florida. He has made public there here are laws preventing genetically modified organism use in human beings. This is clearly unlawful killing.
Perhaps worse, it is polluting the human gene pool in perpetuity.
Yet he is considered an outlier - what are all the other states thinking? That he's a quack?
37:48 Im really *really* surprised to hear Professor Gupta say COVID vaccines didnt contribute meaningfully to excess deaths! igg4 antibody levels in mRNA vaccinated and the link to cancer... VAERS adverse events for covid vaccines being higher in number than ALL vaccines EVER - COMBINED!... complications from blood clots with Adenoviral Vector-Based Vaccines... heart issues with mRNA vaccines. Very surprised by her comment.
well, she said that because science (meaning a plethora of studies) actually confirms that there is no excess death traceable to vaccines
@@dancroitoru364 Yes. If the health agencies refuses to actually look, they will obviously find nothing.
@@Nuts-Bolts they actually looked and found nothing. most studies circulated in the antivax bubble were proven wrong or using incorrect data. so no, you won't find any reputable scientist confirming your desire for conspiratorial drama. no excess death from Covid vaccines. sorry man, you'll be forever confined by your antivax bubble - I mean it's up to you :)
The case record level data will prove the Professor correct. Or will it ? I think her views may be tainted by Vaccine Doubters all being Ultra Right Fascists and the Professor being “ liberal.”
Because she lives with her head in the sand, and doesn't want to accept that the treatment she and all her loved ones recieved is as dangerous and ineffective as all us "kooks" say it is. It's a defense mechanism.
I don’t quite get how this event could be considered an alternative’ covid inquiry if the elephant in the room of vaccine-induced harms was completely glossed over. That was very disappointing, to put it mildly
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Florida was kept open by Gov DeSantis, and focused protection was employed for nursing homes. Except for several weeks at the start medical appointments were readily available in all areas of medicine. Surgeons continued to work. People had operations. And Florida did not have an age adjusted death rate higher than locked-down California. It is worth noting that the spokespeople for the Democratic party have been endlessly attempting to discredit Gov DeSantis. He was too successful. A recorded discussion featuring Gov DeSantis, Sunetra Gupta, J. Bhattacharya, and Martin Kulldorff was taken down by RUclips
Florida is a limited hang out that has legislation in place to force injections!
It was an intelligence test and the masses failed dismally. The Behavioural psychologists played a blinder fair play.
Amazingly there's still people around who are in denial about them having had a job done on them.
It was probably the most sustained and sophisticated propaganda attack in the history of the world. Its only this that generates compassion for those that went along, vilified the unjabbed etc.
I learned that if big pharma pushes suicide the next time around, my pastor and my employer will shame me for not doing it.
@colinstewart1432 Absolutely right
There are lots of us that have seen the light as specially after the murders in care homes put on the Liverpool care pathway without the family being informed no visitors to witness the torture and in hospitals that's why they lockdown it was planned to get rid of the elderly I will never forgive or forget what they did 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I’m always amazed regarding the number of people that I speak to who have absolutely no idea about anything other than what they are told by the main news media.
I lost 7 healthy family members in one year, shortly after the you know what...
It would take me too long to list all the family and friends who have been damaged or died early. The most recent was 45, athletic, trim-
I saw him the week before, all was well. He went to the ER because he felt so nauseous. He died the next day of liver and kidney failure. That’s all we know so far.
I’ve helped clear out two homes of people who died suddenly. And I’ve helped out friends who have sudden diagnosis of aggressive stage 4 cancers.
44:10 Logic and critical thinking are being treated as "conspiracy theories" today, unfortunately.
Let me make an extremely important point here, the vast majority of people who took the medication will have no problem at all but when you mass medicate five billion people without aspiration, if only one in every thousand are affected. That is five million people who are potentially harmed. That is approximately the population of a small country like Finland and pretty shameful. Should it be one in every hundred the figure is fifty million harmed individuals and that is in the realm of catastrophe.
Contrary to popular belief it was never made mandatory by the government in Britain but the nudge unit inside number ten with the aid of MSM and dumb celebrities made damn sure the average person was scared shitless. That is coercion by psychology and is a despicable ploy by those in charge, tricking the public into submission. Why was that allowed in a free society?
I think you’ve answered your own question there.
We will never know the number of deaths due directly to this MRNA medication because they will occur over a 3 to 5 year period and result in an untold number of diseases. The T cells are suppressed and wherever your body's vulnerabilities, there will be the disease that gets you.
..shows your freedom is in your mind....
Because they state there are too many of us..
@@emmap1159 ..georgia guidestones....
Bizarre how 3 of the 4 can't see, or don't want to see, what was being attempted internationally and in absolute lockstep. Not sure how long ago this was filmed. Perhaps they've woken up a bit since then.
1:12:21 lost lass.
This is typical. Obviously the intervention has destroyed there critical thinking. Look at what the so called chosen ones are doing in middle east.
Sounds about right. Only 25% of the global population is wide awake.
@@mballerif only those capitalists weren't so greedy ... 😂😂😂
ABSOLUTELY ... Thomas Fazi is on it. ,
this was not groupthink! people had many ideas, but the consequences of expressing them were brutal! I was in the healthcare industry, and you could not express sound science without fear of losing your job... and many did
Groupthink among governments, not scientists. Similar to climate change.
It was the craziest time I’ve ever lived Thru- pure insanity
Prepare for worse.
.... expect the best but prepare for the worst...
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Is shooting people with rubber bullets, slamming them to the ground, and arresting and hand cuffing them for not wearing a mask considered a "non pharmaceutal intervention"?
The state government in Victoria in Australia apparently thought so. And they were re-elected for such sterling work.
I could never figure why. People seemed to fall in love with Dan the dictator. He is now free and at large in the community he so despised. Come on karma
@@nevillearchibald6584I heard Dictator Dan is Under 24 hour security in his Brighton Mansion.Suffering with Severe Depression.His wife and kids HATE HIM and he cannot show his face in polite society.He was declined obtaining membership at a Portsea Golf club as the locals and members refused his membership and HATE HIM....
The guy in the blue shirt is really clued up.
We are about to loose our health sovereignty and nobody seems to care.
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I tend to think that academics were as guilty as politicians for most of the appalling situation we were caught up in.
A year ago Spring of 2023 in Canada you couldn’t be admitted to a seniors residence/ nursing home unless you were Covid vaccinated, there is no sense to this in my mind.
Prior to Covid, Australia had a set plan and response for a pandemic, in place dor decades...and a major part of the response was NOT to do lockdowns, and that lockdowns would be counterproductive.
Same in the UK.
My affirmative reply was immediately deleted!
That was actually WHO pandemic policy. In fact, after lockdowns were implemented a key spokesperson called them terrible. That was barely reported though.
I always found Sunetra's views too mild and consistently glossing over the fact of the deadly nature of these experimental medications. Also she completely ignored the science of natural immunity being far superior. Why should any medical treatment involve risk of death??? Even one person's or child's life is so precious!
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Thomas is 100% correct. Authoritarian rule is rampant and the people don't appear to have a voice.
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The "experts" and their militant defense force will never admit they were wrong
Of course not ! There's money and illegality involved
Because they still don't understand that Nature's Laws, that we have collated into some Scientific Laws, cannot be repealed, or reworded!
They don't even know what they don't know.
Facts don't need admission. They just are.
Too late.
Hardened criminals rarely do!
For all those speaking about Florida, remember the best statement by DeSantis…”stop engaging in the Covid play”
Why is it being referred to here & now as a 'pandemic' keep it real...
Absolutely. That and the use of the word vaccine for those injections. Using their language is not helpful
Take an injection of substance unknown because your government printed money to buy it for you and shut up.
Yeah, the flu is the flu...
We had all the plans on what to do already written, and then politicians around the world broke all policy to award themselves with ultimate power.
The SPEED at which they released this novel medical supplement and then forced people to take it, not knowing the true risks involved was truly shocking. I know lots of people, just in my small circle of associates that have had some reaction to the novel supplement. Lets not beat around the bush....The proppagandaaaa and the exaggerated risk was not only cruel but evil. I will never forgive those responsible!
Western governments printed trillions to buy the products en masse. The companies could then afford 24~7 TV advertising.
Population Reduction.
Anyone seeing the early videos of the Italian hospital ( and they made sure everyone saw them) will now know they were witnessing death by ventilator, or rather the chemicals that go with ventilation. Snuff movies.
Paul marik,dr Peter McCullough, Dr malon, John Campbell, ed dowd, JFK Jr, Dr nass, Martin kuldorff, on and on.. pick one, follow all to the truth
Now the japaneese study has said after the 3rd shot, a.signifacance increase in 6 types of cancer.
Yes exactly…..RFKjr had all the answers by Mar of 2020
@54:18 "I don't think we should criminalize anybody for that, we must I think we should grant *amnesty* on that because people just did what they thought they needed to do at the time" Sure, whilst we're at it I suppose we had better forgive the regime in Germany during WWII and all those complicit. Rather disappointing that it's only lockdown being contested. There should be more than enough research at this point in time to critique and dispute claims such as "100% Safe & Effective", "Stops transmission" & has only "mild side-effects" but it seems to yet be covered even though the original inquiry postponed such a critical topic.
It would be nice to have data or citations to scientific publications to aid some of the statements presented even if solely in description.
They were only following orders, right? 🤣
NATO nations had been running simulations and practicing for a pandemic since 1998. It was always assumed that the pandemic would be the result of a bioweapon attack, and because of that (as well as unique logistics capabilities) the response was always a military operation. Interestingly, the last such simulation was response to a coronavirus pandemic in August of 2019.
Anyway, the pandemic response was pulled out of a drawer, not developed on the fly. It assumed the west was at war with someone. Three quarters of the people involved were military, less than a quarter were public health officials. The Swedes didn't buy in to this, and their people benefitted.
Agree! Yet wonder, now that Sweden has joined Nato, will things change ‘next time’?
Dark Winter. Event 201. Catastrophic Contagion.
I think that you should revisit the data, my understanding is that the planned response was similar to Sweden and our weak leaders didn't lead.
Disappointing that few want to recognise that power has shifted from government to N G Os. All with private interests.
Anyone clinging to the “incompetence” explanation has not seen the planning documents within the European Commission, nor seen the rehearsals e.g. Event 201 or CladeX.
The Italian issue was in an extremely elderly population already.
Worth repeating, the average age of death **with covid** was always two years ABOVE NORMAL LIFE EXPECTANCY.
Italian hospital said people with a good amount of vitamin D3 did much better than those that didn't
What about suggested correlation between mRNA-vaccines and excess deaths according to for example Professor Dr. Theo Schetters and Dr. Ronald Meester? What about Dr. John Campbell's findings?
John Campbell's findings? John Campbell doesn't have his own findings, he is a scientific communicator. He reports the findings of others, which he is very good at, but they are not his findings.
@@abe1996 True. I meant rather: his findings of examining the findings.
Their mortgages say otherwise...🤣
@@colinstewart1432 ...which does not automatically dismiss a range of findings...
Campbell is an infamous fake news grifter, made millions with his anti science approach!
The Irony of calling this an alternative inquiry while also shutting down those very alternatives. Only person who demonstrates open-mindedness and courage to dive into any "alternative Inquiry" is the dark haired dude with blue shirt to the left.
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Freddie - what's important to understand about people yielding their freedoms so eagerly and wanting lockdowns was the enormous psychological operation which fearmongered the public into submission.
Agree. I commented the same, but you said it better.
Rather bizarre comment from Freddie downplaying that which he just gave testimony on. It’s like some of these people envision a literal “smoke filled room” and because Event 201 was in a non-smoking room with those very “elite institutions” involved, well then there’s nothing that could have happened. Forget the fact that these same “elite institutions” also met regarding a certain laptop being a “Russian playbook” manipulation, months prior to a certain laptop appearing and them following precisely that which they had practiced.
"This is the legacy of the Nuremberg Tribunal and the Nuremberg Code. The respect for human rights in human experimentation demands that we see persons as unique, as ends in themselves . . . we must not see any person as an abstraction." - Elie Wiesel
People were hung because of Nuremberg. How can we prosecute contemporary tribunals under the codes under Nuremberg?
@@user-tb1ri5wc1rI’ve given up on the idea of the Nuremberg Code considering what has been unclassified. In fact, if we’re smart, we’d want nothing like the show trials at Nuremberg, where all the worst war criminal Drs were operation Paperclip’ed out of their trials, to safety and rather elevated positions in America. The Nuremberg Code itself is useful in a sense that it was publicly acknowledged form of accountability…. Though even typing that makes me second guess if it was a socially engineered public acknowledgment, because I’m guessing any decenters at the time were not permitted to voice any opposition.
We had a grand opportunity to teach children-and everyone-social/emotional/empathy skills for how to handle difficult times. Instead, everyone fought and complained and governments came down hard instead of helping. Now the world is worse, when we had a chance to grow and blew it
Good point. Problem equals opportunity.
Thank God for Sweden having the fortitude to make their own decisions based on historical science and common sense. In 2020 I watched a video of the retired gentleman who had been the head of public health in Sweden for years. He made the most sense of anyone. I'm in the US and it was clear we were being coerced and bullied, complete violations of the Nuremberg code. There are many who caused extreme harm and death who deserve prison terms
This "alternative" inquiry is the definition of a limited hangout. Yeah, blame everything, excess deaths, everything, on lockdowns. Forget about the elephant in the room. If you point to the elephant in the room, you're just being silly and conspiratorial. I knew the lockdowns would be the scapegoat when all was said and done, terrible as they were.
...mRNA. .. Not safe, Not a Vaccine....
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They’ve focused primarily on one wrong COVID policy. But pretty much all mainstream policies were wrong. Similar with the so-called climate crisis.
It’s a total joke…..these are not the people he should be interviewing
Still getting my comments deleted here as throughout the pandemic.
Speak to that.
Evil.
You know you're over the target when you're getting censored.
You only get flak when directly over the target.
Censorship on here
You all don't realize just how close you are to being 1700s American rebels. You are smart, sophisticated, and well cultured so you believe otherwise. However, so were Adams, Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Hancock, and many others. You are rebels at heart and I salute you. Keep questioning and keep forming larger groups.
What kinda mythological BS are you promoting??? The US was fascist before the ink could dry in 1776. The US was a dress rehearsal for Nazi Germany, and furthermore the US had a far greater margin of success at it. Nazi officials came to the US "before" the start of WWII to study the mechanics of how to brutally subjugate populations and codify the depravity into law.
- Fascism
- Eugenics
- Human Experimentation
- Mass Genocide
- Forced Slave Labor
- Involuntary Euthanasia
- Forced Sterilization
- Death Camps (Antebellum Plantations)
- Mass Surveillance
- Native American Reservation System
- Jim Crow Laws
- Suppression of Democracy
- Suppression of Protests
- Suppression of Free Speech
- Large Scale Land and Resource Theft
.....were all honed to exquisite perfection RIGHT HERE in the US well ahead of anything coming from that backwater at the time known as Nazi Germany.
Enslaved Africans held in prison labor camps (plantations) in which they were worked to death, confined, surveilled, and sadistically punished in order to extract economic wealth. Fascist Nazis sought to replicate this exact same system in Europe. Try again buddy.
A d get some people in who have read something i to the larger group.
Does any remember that BORIS JOHNSON talked about the need for HERD IMMUNITY early on. And was immediately ATTACKED for being uncaring and irresponsible. He never mentioned it again.
I've not heard this mentioned by anyone else either.
Part of the plan to maximise fear & get people to WANT lockdowns to make them feel safe.
it was a giant scam and we will never be afraid again and we will never be scammed again.
Those of us who survive. Meanwhile the damage and death continue.
Some of us may not be. The majority still do not see it, indeed, in Britain today, people are still taking booster covid shots. NHS sends them an invite, and off they trot, despite being told the evidence, despite family members refusing mNRA covid booster and flu shots on the grounds of the risks involved.
It was always easier to fool a person than for that person to admit they were fooled.
"a 26-year-old footballer for Castelfiorentino in Eccellenza, has died in Florence after suffering a heart attack on the pitch on Sunday, on the anniversary of Piermario Morosini's passing.Apr 15, 2024"
Ivor Cummins has been correct, how can you be so dismissive. I feel that there is an arrogant disdain for him and a slightly superior tone that was adopted when his name was mentioned.
Australia was flattened with lockdown, and the state of Victoria was and remains is a sad state with vaccine mandate and lockdowm.
Just wash your hands 40 times a day and drink through a dust mask. You will be fine.
I think a key determinating factor in why people were not thinking "something is up hear," as Sunetra Gupta so rightly commented, is because they have had all their independent thought taken away from them through our institutional systems and large private corporations, such as how you get on in the workplace. Independent thought, having an opinion and a voice is not scene, in middle management terms, as a good thing because it's "not easy to manage" and corporations and institutions operate on a short-term people strategy because they "have targets to fulfill."
In what she is saying, are six month old babies part of the vulnerable group? How come? How did infants, who have a high level of immunity, become vulnerable?
Entitled people not going nearly far enough to be sincere
Add Midazolam to the list....
If you look at government decision making generally on big issues at least, they take a very simplistic, and not nuanced or intelligent, approach.
It appears to be based on panic and pressure to perform in front of the main stream media and the watching population. Take the Ukraine war, they take no regard of the history and context of the situation but rather take the simplistic view that Russia invaded a sovereign nation without provocation. My own MP just answers me with that one narrative. Hundreds of thousand of soldiers and civilians lives could have been saved if they had just considered Russia's valid security concerns for a moment. A peace deal was in place and nearly ready to be signed and Boris stepped in on behalf of the US and basically stopped it (whatever he claims, he gave Zelensky the war option, an offer he would not refuse). Climate change was another simplistic panic activity. No proper consideration of the claims surrounding climate change and what was a sensible, careful approach but rather shut down fossil powered power stations, stop all petrol and diesel vehicles, create ULEZ zones and so on. No nuance, no long and careful planning, just rush jobs. The same with Covid, panic hospital building, panic experimental vaccine purchase and mandates, panic forcing of mask wearing even if the masks were useless. And through it all, those who get make great wealth out of these crises (and they are always looking to do so), just jumped right in and took advantage of frightened and panicking politicians.
How can anyone possibly discuss this HUGE topic in 1 hour, is does more harm than good in my view.
The Italian guy is the only one who really has a realistic view.
In MY opinion😊
We need more of this! Get Dr Claire Craig in to summarise her book Expired. And Dr John Campbell to talk about vitamin D and other pharmaceutical missed opportunities.
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41:11 👎 gain of what? Gain of authoritarian control and forced vaccinations?
Gain for whom?
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The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, if you think this was just a monument t cock up and it can’t happen again you will be to blame when it does.
No wonder so many are heading to Southeast Asia and Latin America.
Never, never again!
I’m in the U.S.. It was refreshing to hear a civil, open dialogue. Re. this topic, it would be interesting to hear the group’s view on Robert Kennedy Jr’s book on COVID.
Discussions such as this will be redundant if the WHO treaty for pandemic handling is voted for at the next WHO Assembly in Geneva next month.
Discussions like this will be illegal if the WHO treaty is adopted.
I was suspended from Facebook for talking about WHO funding, because my statements had not been approved by the WHO
The scientists got captured!
Western governments are wholly captured by industry. Capitalism is a helluva drug.
Then like JVT, went to work for big Phrma.
just keep talking about it people, dont let them forget...they want to pretend everything is back to normal and we shouldn't live in "the past"....nope, lets talk about how your brain works...
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YT is still displaying the warning message. Nothing really changed.
I stand with Thomas Fazi.
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there was NO Discussion in UK's Parliament when they shut it down !Nothing's changed; which shows that Democracy is just what we are "allowed" when it suits "Them"!
" Certain powerful sectors " ? I think he means the ones that stand to make $ Billions ...
He did a fine job. You know if he’d have went into any further detail, Freddie’d have tried to make him seem obsessive even though I watched Freddie give a testimony about one of these very “sectors” intentionally censoring Unherd. I’m not sure why he feels such a strong desire to express sympathies for power.
What is sunatra talking about with excess deaths and Sweden? In December last year they where 24% above
Young athletes are falling dead in gyms, athletic fields and jogging tracks. Healthy youngsters dying in their sleep has been normal before the " plandemic"?
Thank you, Freddy, for such a necessary and important conversation. Special thanks to Thomas Fazi for expressing the views that many don't express because of being afraid or because not being aware of what is really going on. Tante grazie, Thomas, we need more people like you!!!
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@@yvonnerees7589 Absolutely!!! 👍⭐✨
Now we go to funerals more than the cinema.
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I'm vaccinated but I am for choice....if people didn't get vaccinated then that's their choice. My friend didn't and my brother didn't, their choice
Keep getting regular checkups. You can also look up your batch numbers online to see if there are any associated problems.
Thomas is spot on RE the underlying agendas
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@1:01:00 vaccine specialist states "it's not a vaccine that protects against transmission or infection".
@1:00:00 The lady refers to it as a type of "mRNA therapy" but, the "vaccine specialist" asserts it is a vaccine. I suppose it could be considered a "SARS2-specific-spike-protein vaccine" since that is the only anti-gen it promotes (indirectly) the body to create against the plethora of proteins the virus is comprised of. However, it uses mRNA to induce the production of spike protein & subsequent response so it should fall under the category of mRNA therapy.
Spike proteins from ko,MO,do dragon blood research??? Geo,Mas,on university,. In virginia , funded by B and m g,.ATES foundation , DODGY AS,!
It was a Genetically Modified Organism. Not a vaccine.
The real question is how is it possibly for everyone to make the same mistake, impossible unless controlled by outside influence. How much can mainstream media be trusted since they are supported to a large extent by pharma. (Conflict of interest). To what extent are the governmental agencies complicit in mis informing the public since they are also conflicted by pharma. Who made lots of money in governments out of the plandimec and and government health dept beurocrats, could that be areason reason that they all acted in step. Then a few things regarding the virus, we know that this virus cannot be found in nature, who therefore holds the patents to these pathogens and who holds the patents for the pcr tests and injections and when we're they patented. I.e. the date patents were submitted. Once these facts are known it is pointless waffling around the subject. Who gave the go ahead for the gain of function work at unervicityof chapelhill north Carolina and the later funded further work in Wuhan China??? These are the questions that need to be answered before waffling about secondary nonsense.
Exactly! All one has to do is read THE REAL ANTHONY FAUCI by RFK…..he knew and we knew everything by spring of 2020, but no one would listen to us
Excellent! The previous audio was poor indeed
Please leave the original video accessible with a mention in the title about poor sound.....it looks like you removed the original because of unwanted comments....😮
they disappeared the original, would have been easy to keep it up with a link to this one
I agree with Thomas on this subject! And it’s not the end yet by a long way!
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That woman on your panel is compleatly clueless
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Dr John Campbell Midazolam
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I am utterly shocked to hear Sunetra Gupta refer to the toxic gene therapy as a vaccine. There is ample evidence from a study in Qatar that natural immunity is far superior to vaccine immunity. I was disappointed that she knows so little about COVID and the vaccine. I have successfully treated patients with COVID across all age groups and with multiple co-morbidities with a 99.97%😢 success rate using repurposed drugs in Cape Town. I Would love to share my experiences on your platform, Dr Rapiti Cape Town.
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I think that the development of populist politics, over several decades, has eroded people's habit of and capacity for critical thinking.
Or people's capacity for critical thinking created Populist Politics because its essentially against the Establishment narrative...🤔
Maybe so but then what explains the exact erosion of critical thinking in the self identified “elite” institutions where they’re not only ignorant and bigoted but they have the power to enact their bigotry upon the population?
@@zacboyles1396 Their ability to think critically is intact. Consider how well they planned the introduction of their authoritarian rule.
the people put on ventilators, died of thirst.
When you are ded you spread the virus.
When you are not alive you can’t spread the virus.
The Remdesivir caused kidney failure.