Yes, that's right! In Eris E3.5, the bass was initially slightly reduced, but you can easily twist them from behind on the LOW regulator or using an equalizer in the system/audio interface. At the same time, they have cleaner the middle and top, so you get a more accurate sound that you can configure for yourself. Mackie CR3-X, on the contrary, immediately gives out fat bass, But the middle can fail, and it is more difficult to fix it. In your case, Eris E3.5 will be better - you can achieve a tight sound, but without losing detail. 🔥 = Да, всё верно! У Eris E3.5 басы изначально немного снижены, но ты можешь легко их подкрутить сзади на регуляторе LOW или с помощью эквалайзера в системе/аудиоинтерфейсе. При этом у них чище середина и верха, так что ты получаешь более точный звук, который можно настроить под себя. Mackie CR3-X, наоборот, сразу выдаёт жирный бас, но середина может проваливаться, и исправить это сложнее. В твоём случае Eris E3.5 будет лучше - ты сможешь добиться плотного звука, но без потери детализации. 🔥
Mackie sounds fuller probably because of the low mid bump, but the the Presonus are kinda “thin” because they have a high mid bump and a little amount of bass. In all honesty, I kinda prefer the Mackies because of the fullness. Both aren’t bad, i would take the Presonus for the clarity, but the Mackies have a nice thump to them.
Presonus sounds like there is a high pass filter in the mix of the song. The lows remarkably dicreases when it starts. However Mackie is like there is an unnatural bass / low mid boost in it. Both of them fail in comparasion with regular (not so cheap) headphones. I believe the manual bass adjustment of Presonus Eris can do the job. My vote is for Presonus.
Agree. It seems that Eris produces the frequencies more faithfully. And in case you need a bit of thump, the adjustment knob can work wonders (I use a pair for spotify listening and even have to cut down a bit of bass). Else, an external sub can be added.
Presonus definitely have cleaner vocals and the bottom end sounds a little more organised so far...the middle on the Mackies sound a little too distant..
3x is quite an improvement on the 3. The presonus is a good speaker - but it is quite bright so you wont be able to work on it for a long time without getting fatigue
I have never owned a studio monitor, so I believe I have no bias. On the other hand, I was recommended the Presonus by my nephew who has more experience in owning and using studio monitors. But listing to the comparison, I must say I do prefer the Mackie. I tend to opine the Mackie sound seems closer to the Source Track than the Presonus, and the Presonus tends towards a thinner side. But who am I to say which is better? It's just an opinion in the end and one man's food is another's poison. 😁
So basically the 'X' revision on Mackie added more separation that is still more pleasant to listen than PreSonus E3.5? But then how do they stack up against Edifier R1700BT in your opinion for a more casual approach (non-music production-wise)? The rise of the price difference is actually much bigger than I thought it will be, that's why I'm asking to what usually recommend. Also, u rock with adding the graphs over the years, it does help in trying to figure everything that capturing process and YT compression does to experience.
I feel like these both sound REALLY similar, its hard to figure out which is better imo, maybe the mackie? they feel a bit more upfront and close if that makes any sense
@@ArthurSouza-yd3dj you cant find the same speakers on this planet. look at the frequency characteristics.sometimes the difference is very large the key is to find monitors that sound good enough and learn how to produce music on them
Any suggestion for a monitor speaker? Will be plugging in Mac Mini. I have a large room and need a room filling sound with balanced sound, punchy bass but not overpowering. For OTT watching and music listening 🎧.FOR ₹10-12K ($100-150) available in 🇮🇳. Confused between these two. 😫
@@gorboge567 Both are decent pair of monitors, I guess, so you're probably right. I heard about some problems with CRX series though as they apparently generate some acoustic noise on standby, which can be really annoying...
Hi, thank you for the video. The PreSonus pleases my ears more than what the Mackie does, but I guess that the bass is richer in Mackie and in Amazon India, The PreSonus 3.5 costs 12,000 Indian Rupees ($165), while the Mackie CR3-X costs 9000 Indian Rupees ($125). Will it still be worth it to buy PreSonus?
Hi Agniva. What I have noticed is that Presonus speakers present a more neutral overall sound while the Mackie ones have extra bass added to them due to the reduced mid frequencies. For reference purposes I would go for the Presonus ones but for overall listening obviously the Mackie sounds better. I have the eris 4.5 and believe me i cannot listen to music in any other speaker.
@@gpstylesldh Thanks Gagan, as per my budget, I would want to go for the Mackies I guess. Just to let you know, I would produce/compose music via these monitors.
@@agnivachowdhury That would certainly also depend on the type of music you produce. Ofcourse by the end of the day, your ears get tuned to the type of speakers you listen to on most of the time. These days people use cat speakers as well just for reference purposes. Anyhow I like the Presonus's overall flat response as compared to the Mackie but ofcourse that comes down to personal preference. Whatever you choose, I hope you make dope music though. ✌🏻
@@gpstylesldh Yee...thanks for your concern again. Okay, so I am primarily a metalhead...My taste varies diversely though! I listen to: Lamb of God, Meshuggah, Slayer, Dream Theater, Behemoth, Metallica, Slipknot, Infant Annihilator, Cannibal Corpse, Green Day, and what not! On the other hand, I also love to listen to Classical Compositions of Yaani, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin...When it comes to Indian Music, I love Kishore, Lata, Rafi, and as I am a Bengali, I listen to the compositions of Pandit Ravi Shankar, Satyajit Ray, S.D. & R.D. Burman, Hemanta Mukhopadhyay, etc. Okay, enough of bragging...I checked out your channel...YOU ARE DOPE, man!!! Loved your works...Keep on doing them...Subscribed! 😄😉
Hey i am looking for speakers for my room with TV, i was confused between marshall woburn 2 and jbl partybox 200... pr should i go for a soundbar like the one from jbl... any suggestion or recommendations would be appreciated.. budget approx 20-30... but flexible
hi, i want to thank you for this video, presonus sounds better for me, but in my country indonesia, cr3x sold at the same price as amazon, BUT eris sold at 2.5 time from the amazon price is it still worth it to buy presonus??
I got some of these and the tweeter just has way too much self-generated noise. Produces it at the lowest volume and even without an input so it's not EM interference or feedback. Even tried them on an isolated power source again with no source. All the reviews say it, even the 5-star but it's too much in person. Especially if you leave them on to use beyond music/gaming (i.e. for the OS notifications). The speakers sound awesome otherwise. Called Mackie hoping they'd fix/replace and they were so dismissive it wasn't even funny. They said "I must be using them wrong or too loud" even though I told them volume was at lowest and no source and they still produce the hiss. I pointed out reviews and they said those customers were also wrong and or reviewing another product. Never had a company be so dismissive of such a widespread problem. Sent them back to B&H for a refund. Got some other speakers and no such issue. Funny thing was the review I based my purchase on was one where a guy said he had been looking for speakers that didn't hiss and finally found them in the Eris. The Mackie sound marginally better in real world usage, but it's marginal at best and I'd rather that than a constant hiss that will eventually drive me nuts.
I have samsung's 2 speakers and one woofer my sis bought like years ago, those little speakers you know... they are still quite useful tbh, but many times they kinda suck bcuz of freq response is more limited and also they cant go or produce anything better so they start to do weird noises, also woofer is very good. Tho If i bought studio monitors would i still get a nice bass out from them? like let's say PreSonus ones? would they do fine or would i need a woofer for a nice bass? I do voice acting and I need speakers that wont lie to me, but also in free time i want to listen music with bass, it kinda relaxes me "and gaming/netflix as well" im basically a sucker for good sound and well priced speakers or value i can get for paying
I know this is late but, I think you should get the Mackie ones in this video. As they are slightly more on the Casual listening side and they are great for your situation as Voice acting may not require extremely precise Monitors..
The mackie cr3-x sound a lot ore responsive to distortion without choking the overall frequencies, just got some b-stock ones to replace my crappy £25 pc speakers that are super old
@@Cesar722 well they seem pretty similar in my opinion, mackie's seems more like here and there, maybe great if you cant do mixing and make them sound as you want, presonus seem more like they are already tuned so then you go only for the style and money, i think these two both deliver for the price and it's really just up to you what you prefer more, and you cant go wrong with neither of them
I had hope for Mackie but apparently, they did even worse than before... they sound so muddy. Even if the Presonus aren't perfect, they would still make a much better buy for the money since they're tight at some point.
Both sound quite bad. With the presonus you'd need a sub. It sounds quite thin and hollow. The Mackie has a strange tonality. Doesn't sound bad, but it sounds unnatural. Around this pricepoint you could do much better.
What is better at this price point? I've seen the Edifier R1280 recommended but in the audio comparisons it was worse than both of these. It also doesn't have a headphone jack.
what a joke.... how can someone tell what they sound like through a pc with a cheap dac etc, you cant review sound via youtube unless you are there live in the room where they are.
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Hello, which of these monitors would you recommend for home production and music mixing?
Yes, that's right! In Eris E3.5, the bass was initially slightly reduced, but you can easily twist them from behind on the LOW regulator or using an equalizer in the system/audio interface.
At the same time, they have cleaner the middle and top, so you get a more accurate sound that you can configure for yourself. Mackie CR3-X, on the contrary, immediately gives out fat bass,
But the middle can fail, and it is more difficult to fix it.
In your case, Eris E3.5 will be better - you can achieve a tight sound, but without losing detail. 🔥
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Да, всё верно! У Eris E3.5 басы изначально немного снижены, но ты можешь легко их подкрутить сзади на регуляторе LOW или с помощью эквалайзера в системе/аудиоинтерфейсе.
При этом у них чище середина и верха, так что ты получаешь более точный звук, который можно настроить под себя. Mackie CR3-X, наоборот, сразу выдаёт жирный бас, но середина может проваливаться, и исправить это сложнее.
В твоём случае Eris E3.5 будет лучше - ты сможешь добиться плотного звука, но без потери детализации. 🔥
Mackie for Metal.
Mackie sounds fuller probably because of the low mid bump, but the the Presonus are kinda “thin” because they have a high mid bump and a little amount of bass. In all honesty, I kinda prefer the Mackies because of the fullness. Both aren’t bad, i would take the Presonus for the clarity, but the Mackies have a nice thump to them.
Listening to this on my Eris 3.5 ;)
how do you like them after 1 year?>
Presonus sounds like there is a high pass filter in the mix of the song. The lows remarkably dicreases when it starts. However Mackie is like there is an unnatural bass / low mid boost in it. Both of them fail in comparasion with regular (not so cheap) headphones. I believe the manual bass adjustment of Presonus Eris can do the job. My vote is for Presonus.
Keşke tam ikisinin arası olsa. Mackienin seslere verdiği color da çok hoş ama stüdyo için çok da hoş bir durum değil maalesef
Agree. It seems that Eris produces the frequencies more faithfully. And in case you need a bit of thump, the adjustment knob can work wonders (I use a pair for spotify listening and even have to cut down a bit of bass). Else, an external sub can be added.
i want cr3 vs cr3-x and cr4 vs cr4-x
Presonus definitely have cleaner vocals and the bottom end sounds a little more organised so far...the middle on the Mackies sound a little too distant..
Are these fading into each other? The video and sound don't seem synced. I'd prefer hard audio cuts than fades.
3x is quite an improvement on the 3. The presonus is a good speaker - but it is quite bright so you wont be able to work on it for a long time without getting fatigue
Never thought of that and I think you're completely right.
I have never owned a studio monitor, so I believe I have no bias.
On the other hand, I was recommended the Presonus by my nephew who has more experience in owning and using studio monitors.
But listing to the comparison, I must say I do prefer the Mackie.
I tend to opine the Mackie sound seems closer to the Source Track than the Presonus, and the Presonus tends towards a thinner side.
But who am I to say which is better? It's just an opinion in the end and one man's food is another's poison. 😁
presonus is a flatter sounding monitor
So basically the 'X' revision on Mackie added more separation that is still more pleasant to listen than PreSonus E3.5? But then how do they stack up against Edifier R1700BT in your opinion for a more casual approach (non-music production-wise)? The rise of the price difference is actually much bigger than I thought it will be, that's why I'm asking to what usually recommend. Also, u rock with adding the graphs over the years, it does help in trying to figure everything that capturing process and YT compression does to experience.
R1700BT is much better speaker than both tested here. It is better for music listening aa well as music production IMO
Wich WAN is better for hip hop Musik please help i will buy?????
Mackie better 🎵🎸🎵🎸🤘👌🙏.Thanks for the Amazing Test.🙏🤘🎵🎸🌹
Im on the fence with Edifier MR4 vs Mackie CRX-3. Can you make a comparison of those two please? Thx. Subscribed fan.
Your job is very good! Congratulations! ... A suggestion of passive speakers .. Pioneer SP-BS22 Lr! It's an incredible and super cheap box.
What's the difference between passive/active speaker in terms of the sound quality?
@@distortimus7631 No one. But the amplifier make the difference
I feel like these both sound REALLY similar, its hard to figure out which is better imo, maybe the mackie? they feel a bit more upfront and close if that makes any sense
they are completely different
@@andx4024 how come?
@@andx4024 how?
@@ArthurSouza-yd3dj you cant find the same speakers on this planet. look at the frequency characteristics.sometimes the difference is very large the key is to find monitors that sound good enough and learn how to produce music on them
I dont like either but I give the edge to the presonus.
Any suggestion for a monitor speaker? Will be plugging in Mac Mini. I have a large room and need a room filling sound with balanced sound, punchy bass but not overpowering. For OTT watching and music listening 🎧.FOR ₹10-12K ($100-150) available in 🇮🇳. Confused between these two. 😫
in your opinion what's the best : M-audio BX-3 , mackie CR-3X , presonnus eris 3,5 , alesis elevate 4 ?? Thank you 🙏
I tried them all except Alesis, Eris 3.5 BT are best (in my opinion).
I find CR3-X boomy which is very apparent in the first jazzy song. E3.5 sounds more soft and balanced.
Giltley Rage yeah, its really about prefferance in this competition, i dont think that their is a clear winner here
@@gorboge567 Both are decent pair of monitors, I guess, so you're probably right. I heard about some problems with CRX series though as they apparently generate some acoustic noise on standby, which can be really annoying...
@@GiltleyRage more than decent they are good GOOD
Hi, thank you for the video.
The PreSonus pleases my ears more than what the Mackie does,
but I guess that the bass is richer in Mackie and in Amazon India,
The PreSonus 3.5 costs 12,000 Indian Rupees ($165),
while the Mackie CR3-X costs 9000 Indian Rupees ($125).
Will it still be worth it to buy PreSonus?
Hi Agniva. What I have noticed is that Presonus speakers present a more neutral overall sound while the Mackie ones have extra bass added to them due to the reduced mid frequencies. For reference purposes I would go for the Presonus ones but for overall listening obviously the Mackie sounds better. I have the eris 4.5 and believe me i cannot listen to music in any other speaker.
@@gpstylesldh Thanks Gagan, as per my budget, I would want to go for the Mackies I guess. Just to let you know, I would produce/compose music via these monitors.
@@agnivachowdhury That would certainly also depend on the type of music you produce. Ofcourse by the end of the day, your ears get tuned to the type of speakers you listen to on most of the time. These days people use cat speakers as well just for reference purposes. Anyhow I like the Presonus's overall flat response as compared to the Mackie but ofcourse that comes down to personal preference. Whatever you choose, I hope you make dope music though. ✌🏻
@@gpstylesldh Yee...thanks for your concern again. Okay, so I am primarily a metalhead...My taste varies diversely though! I listen to:
Lamb of God, Meshuggah, Slayer, Dream Theater, Behemoth, Metallica, Slipknot, Infant Annihilator, Cannibal Corpse, Green Day, and what not!
On the other hand, I also love to listen to Classical Compositions of Yaani, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin...When it comes to Indian Music, I love Kishore, Lata, Rafi, and as I am a Bengali, I listen to the compositions of Pandit Ravi Shankar, Satyajit Ray, S.D. & R.D. Burman, Hemanta Mukhopadhyay, etc.
Okay, enough of bragging...I checked out your channel...YOU ARE DOPE, man!!! Loved your works...Keep on doing them...Subscribed! 😄😉
@@agnivachowdhuryman if you're a metalhead then you should save up to buy the Kali LP6 or 8, cheapest and best in it's range
My ears favor the Eris over the CR3X, the latter is too bassy for me
I liked the sound of PreSonus Eris E3.5. Mackie somehow unpleasantly sound in the lower middle.
The mackie seems more heat
wich better for record electric guitar?
Hey i am looking for speakers for my room with TV, i was confused between marshall woburn 2 and jbl partybox 200... pr should i go for a soundbar like the one from jbl... any suggestion or recommendations would be appreciated.. budget approx 20-30... but flexible
Can you tell me the name of the song for the Bellissimo source track? Thanks
Can anyone help?
PRESONUS 🏆
hi, i want to thank you for this video, presonus sounds better for me, but in my country indonesia,
cr3x sold at the same price as amazon, BUT eris sold at 2.5 time from the amazon price
is it still worth it to buy presonus??
No, Presonus is not worth that much more
So what did you finally choose?
Cr3x. And i also bought cr4x. Much better low frequency. But that accoustic noise is really bad
Please ERIS E5 XT vs ILoud Micro Monitors or What is better for you ?
I got some of these and the tweeter just has way too much self-generated noise. Produces it at the lowest volume and even without an input so it's not EM interference or feedback. Even tried them on an isolated power source again with no source. All the reviews say it, even the 5-star but it's too much in person. Especially if you leave them on to use beyond music/gaming (i.e. for the OS notifications). The speakers sound awesome otherwise. Called Mackie hoping they'd fix/replace and they were so dismissive it wasn't even funny. They said "I must be using them wrong or too loud" even though I told them volume was at lowest and no source and they still produce the hiss. I pointed out reviews and they said those customers were also wrong and or reviewing another product. Never had a company be so dismissive of such a widespread problem. Sent them back to B&H for a refund. Got some other speakers and no such issue. Funny thing was the review I based my purchase on was one where a guy said he had been looking for speakers that didn't hiss and finally found them in the Eris. The Mackie sound marginally better in real world usage, but it's marginal at best and I'd rather that than a constant hiss that will eventually drive me nuts.
Same issue. Seems like common Mackie problem with internal power supply.
Mackie kinda has a fuller sound....but for mixing and referencing purposes which one is more preferred? btw how is the Mackie doing now?
for mixing and mastering go for presonus,
I have samsung's 2 speakers and one woofer my sis bought like years ago, those little speakers you know... they are still quite useful tbh, but many times they kinda suck bcuz of freq response is more limited and also they cant go or produce anything better so they start to do weird noises, also woofer is very good.
Tho If i bought studio monitors would i still get a nice bass out from them? like let's say PreSonus ones? would they do fine or would i need a woofer for a nice bass?
I do voice acting and I need speakers that wont lie to me, but also in free time i want to listen music with bass, it kinda relaxes me "and gaming/netflix as well" im basically a sucker for good sound and well priced speakers or value i can get for paying
I know this is late but, I think you should get the Mackie ones in this video. As they are slightly more on the Casual listening side and they are great for your situation as Voice acting may not require extremely precise Monitors..
Presonus Eris 3.5 bt vs Mackie CR3- XBT.
This version of presonus did feel a big change
맥키 사용중인데 나름 만족 하는데 ㅜㅜ 엘리스도 너무좋네
락쪽은 맥키 클래식은 엘리스 인듯.....
I like more the voices on the mackies
amazing review. looks like they both are similar af
The mackie cr3-x sound a lot ore responsive to distortion without choking the overall frequencies, just got some b-stock ones to replace my crappy £25 pc speakers that are super old
I prefer the Mackie
Hey mackie 3xbt or Monkey banana air gibbon ? Whats you chose thank you
those frequency graphs are horrendous!
Yep
Explain please, I want to better understand. Can you see an obvious winner from the graphs?
@@Cesar722 well they seem pretty similar in my opinion, mackie's seems more like here and there, maybe great if you cant do mixing and make them sound as you want,
presonus seem more like they are already tuned so then you go only for the style and money, i think these two both deliver for the price and it's really just up to you what you prefer more, and you cant go wrong with neither of them
@@Cesar722 I don´t like this comparision, this channel don´t give a obvious winner!
@@mariocg its up to personal preference and how you use it, so you cant blame him
Pre sonus mejor sonido mas detalles
to me the presonus way to thin sound of mackie way richer
I had hope for Mackie but apparently, they did even worse than before... they sound so muddy. Even if the Presonus aren't perfect, they would still make a much better buy for the money since they're tight at some point.
Eris e3.5 better i think
Mackie CR3-X👍
cr3-x way better also it has bluetooth.
Edifier R1700BT wins! Even when it is absent in comparison.
Kinda true
Is the edifier that better? I wanted to get the r1700 but chose the presonus instead...kinda thinking to buy the edifiers now
Yeah but it cost you more.
Your continuous screen commercial distracts from the listening experience!
cr3-x win
Both sound quite bad.
With the presonus you'd need a sub.
It sounds quite thin and hollow.
The Mackie has a strange tonality.
Doesn't sound bad, but it sounds unnatural.
Around this pricepoint you could do much better.
It would rely on a sub that much, it would become very difficult....
What is better at this price point? I've seen the Edifier R1280 recommended but in the audio comparisons it was worse than both of these. It also doesn't have a headphone jack.
They has no bass at all. Like a 2.1 without the .1 the sub.
meta l= Mackie
what a joke.... how can someone tell what they sound like through a pc with a cheap dac etc, you cant review sound via youtube unless you are there live in the room where they are.
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