Side-By-Side Comparison: Zak George VS Dog Daddy 🤬😱🫣
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2023
- When I challenge abusive dog training techniques, it’s easy for some to dismiss it as mere extremism. Yet, this isn’t a matter of two extremes clashing.
Consider this: My approach is in lockstep with the guidelines set by top global behavioral organizations. On the flip side, the methods I oppose? They’re not just overlooked by these experts; they’re actively condemned.
Aversive punishment-based dog training methods NEVER address the actual underlying causes of behaviors, they are known to be harmful, and there are alternatives that are more effective (for any dog), without the risks of harm.
So, ask yourself, where does extremism truly lie?
This is not a debate or a matter of opinion. It’s scientifically-backed, ethical training VS outdated, injurious practices.
Beaux is a dog from one of my classes who would have certainly lashed out in fear if he were put in a situation like the dogs who attend “Dog Daddy” workshops find themselves in.
I invite you to see the stark difference for yourself. Who is truly at the extremes?
For those who label me an extremist in dog training circles, I’d like to pose a simple question: Which aspect of these evidence-based practices do you find extreme?
Let’s delve into the specifics and demystify where our perspectives diverge.
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clearly a lot of this comment section has not been around really aggressive dogs before.
Dude seriously I am an all animal lover. I totally get you. Sweet Beau isn't the same. But what about an actual aggressive dog. What about the ones other trainers won't take on or show videos of them training. If Beau is your biggest baddest... you have not made your point yet.
Beau is not jumping or aggressive at all!
People watching should look closely at the bottom video and see that the flailing around is the aggressive actions of the dog, and NOT being pulled around by the trainer
In all the videos of the dogs flailing, dog daddy has already started grabbing for the dog and pulling them with the leash. So it seems like he’s the one who’s causing the dog to become unruly.
Agree, I'll let Zak George try to take over handling my maremma x , she will take his arm off lol, and don't try throwing treats! She 10000% protects me❤
@@joysdogtraining congratulations on owning a dangerous dog. Someone will get bitten sooner or later, likely someone who is a friend or family.
The reason why Beau wasn’t as aggressive is because he didn’t have to be. In DDs videos he pushes the dogs outside of their comfort zone which causes the biting and jumping where as Zak takes the extra time and patience to gain the dogs trust and go at a comfortable pace for the dog.
How is this a side by side. How many people had Beau attacked ? He it's clearly a sweet shy boy who just needs to warm up to people and warns you he didn't want you to come close. He isn't attacking. And he backed up when you took a step. Again ... was Beau about to get put down ?
Yes! This is such a bad example. Zak is "trying" so hard to make himself seem like a good dog trainer for all dogs of all extremities.
Exactly, I can’t believe people are falling for this
You realize that growling and barking are things that compulsion trainers will "correct" with aversive and forceful methods and tools, right?
The reason why Beau didn’t attack is because Zak didn’t push his boundaries. Beau could have easily been as violent as the other dogs if he was pushed to fast like DD does. DD forces the already “aggressive”, unsure dogs into fight mode and escalates the issue. The only fact behind his training is through fear and power. With Zak he builds a bond with the dog and takes his time. He trains with empathy and proven methods.
@@aneliahutson3191
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Anyways, let's remove DD from the conversation. Are you saying there aren't dogs that lunge and pull at the leash on site of strangers and they only do it if a trainer makes them uncomfortable? If so, that is hilariously delusional. This dog is a 2or3 out of 10, tops. Simply a young dog not well socialized
If you aren't saying that, & you recognize there are dogs like that, then please show me an example of ZG working with one. It'd be even better if you can show one with a working breed adult that has aggression (you can't)
That’s the old yank and crank. Aka animal abuse. It’s traumatizing to watch I can’t even imagine what it’s like to experience.
Where on earth do they even teach people to be a “dog trainer” like that!
When humans are faced with viewpoints that don't line up with their beliefs, they don't wanna listen. Instead, they go to mocking, criticism, dismissive statements, and anger. The internet is a seething cesspool, and generally trying to argue with someone online is a fruitless endeavor. So, whoever side you're on, don't bother arguing. It won't accomplish anything.
My dog is in his puberty (he's a Corgi) . We socialized him almost instantly after getting him, as soon as was advised and because of that he used to love meeting new people and playing with other dogs. We do dog sitting so we often have dogs over staying for a couple days to sometimes even 2 weeks or more. My Corgi used to play with them and nothing ever went wrong, they don't needed to be seperated unless the doggy that stayed over wasn't a very playful one. But lately my dog started getting aggressive with the dogs that stay over which and we are not sure if it's territorial, resource guarding or even something else. We noticed it started around the time puberty usually starts in dogs. He usually does not do it instantly, mostly when a new doggy comes he plays with them but after playing for 15-20 minutes he becomes cranky and gets aggressive. He does not do it with all dogs, for example he does not get angry with my mom's labrador (female). Mostly seems like younger male dogs (not necessarily younger than him because we have a 1,5 year old Labrador over at the moment and he does get upset with him after play or if we seperate with a fence if he gets close to the fence). I don't know if he's angry and takes it out on the doggy for us basically putting him in doggy jail... Or if it's just puberty... I wish I knew what we were doing wrong..
Are the dogs your dog getting upset with very pushy and maybe ignoring your dogs signals of “I’m done playing/give me space/ back off”. My adult male has very little patience for male younger dogs that keep pushing him when he starts signaling to leave him alone. Try to pay attention to your dogs body language with younger dogs before your dog has freak out.
@@wisdomcoffee
Yes, I think you are on the right track.
I've experienced this with my first dog. He would try to let the dog know that "I'm done", but the other dogs did not respond to his request for space.
I think there's a lot of dogs that just don't know doggy language...under socialized, taken from mom to soon (I think that's the biggest problem). Mom and litter mates are the best teachers.
Anyway... that's my two cents 😊
We’re dealing with adolescence, too. Best wishes.
@@fallbrkgrlHe's not under socialized but maybe spoiled in how much he was socialized. The moment he was allowed to go for walks is when we started doggy sitting again. And it's not only when he's tired that he gets cranky. He has different situations where he lashes out. The last 2 days he stopped again with the Labrador we're dog sitting where before he kept getting angry at him for different reasons. It's difficult to tell because it's different contexts.
Awe. He's a little bag of hormones right now and a lot of growing at the same time.
I would do some "stationing" with him and your visitor dogs.
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I have dogs, over the years watched both Zak then Dog Daddy methods and now use Dog Daddy's approach.
Early I tried using Zak's way when training dogs on the walk. It did not work very well and I had patience. DD's methods as explained by him make more sense. You should not contradict someone before hearing him out first.
Try watching videos of DD on his own channel, not selected and compiled by Zak who clearly has something against his competition.
I had a similar experience except my puppy became so reactive using Zak’s methods that Zak recommended behavioral euthanasia for my 8 month old puppy. Luckily I switched to balanced training and didn’t put my pup down. He’s 4 years old now 🥰
@@The_Woof_Pack wow so happy you switched training; Zak is going to get a lot of dogs killed if he is not careful, silly man, he has hate in his heart.
Zak George wouldnt be able to handle the Dogs that Dog Daddy transforms.
The dog in the top video was a completely different case than any of the dogs that needed help in the bottom videos. May I ask…how can these two videos be compared in their technique when they are clearly not the same? Can you provide an example of a dog that you have trained that is snarling on a leash and writhing around and how you handle that dog? I would like to see that comparison for it to be apples to apples. I don’t have a side here, I just want to see if you have a fair argument to make. Thanks in advance ❤
Exactly. Comparing apples to zebras.
Honey the point of the video is that you shouldn't be snatching a dog around by its neck
Please actually watch the video regardless of how this guy does it that guy is still clearly abusive towards his dogs while in the training process
How permanent is either approach? Do the dogs revert after a while? We have a small mixed breed dog that become agressive towards the family other than me and my father. She is not tolerant to either my teen kids or my partner and growls and snaps at them randomly. It seems to be worse as she ages. She was such a lovable pup
Training is ongoing for life. Just small sessions to remind your dog you still have the same expectations. They’re like us: they change over time and need refreshers.
Hi! A great option in your case may be place training for the dog and training the mentioned people to give the dog space when in “place.” Check out Tom Davis on here for great tips and a great middle ground between Zak George and DD
From my experience with my dogs my mom sent them to an aversive trainer without me knowing and they didn’t learn anything. 300l0 dollars went down the toilet and we were left with two untrained dogs. When I use Zak methods it takes longer but my dogs really enjoy training and understand what they are doing. It’s been two years now and they are really well behave and the boy one no longer is aggressive towards other dogs. All of this is about patience, time, and empathy and if it come from a place of love then I believe any dog can be trained without aversive methods.
The sad thing is how many people see this and will handwave your work with Beaux because they didn't see him reacting to the extreme level of the dogs in the comparison video, without ever realizing that because he was barking and growling at you, a trainer like Augusto would have "corrected" him in the same way he is seen with those other reactive dogs and you would have seen that same kind of reaction out of him.
When I was still a newer trainer, I worked with a Malinois before who had SEVERE separation anxiety. Like, full destructive panic if any of the family was out of sight. Other places wouldn't accept him because they considered him too "high risk" for training. One class, I inadvertently pushed him a little too far outside his comfort zone too quickly, and he panicked and bit me. It hurt a ton. But I didn't yell at him, hit him, or "correct" him. That wouldn't have helped. He was scared. I'm not going to punish him for being scared. I took a deep breath, stayed calm, and worked with my senior trainer to reassess his training plan and we were able to really help get his anxiety under control, and it was all positive based training techniques. No force, no "correction," no aversive tools or methods.
Glad to see someone else understands the contrast is the point of the video! Had Zak treated the dog like DD does, then the dog would have been way more aggressive. But by staying respecting boundaries and building trust, he avoided that and achieved results.
If people say their pets are their kids then why do they allow someone to wrestle their kids? Would they allow a nanny or a teacher to wrestle their human children?? I doubt it
Dogs are not kids.
Get therapy. You are not well.
The Venn diagram of people who are okay with abusive training methods for dogs and people okay with hitting children as discipline is a circle.
@@FoxbrushDraws
We will never see the same.
Dogs are not kids. Dogs are animals. We are capable of seeing the difference. You are not.
Depends, are your kids raging fanatics that chase down, pin, and bite everyone they see besides you? These two dogs are nowhere near the same behavioral issue. Human aggressive has to be fixed with aversive, period. If all you do is get them used to you, that doesn't mean they will stop attacking your amazon driver. So if you didn't want your kids euthanized for aggression then yes, you would want someone to wrestle them if that's what it took.
They always talk about aggressive dogs , but don't they see , it's them , not the dogs . They might make every dog "aggre ssive" . It is their character , it is their thoughts , it is their body language . That type of people is always starting trouble with other people , they see everything negative . They don't realize that dogs are highly sensitive .
oh good god grow up dogs have heightened senses not paranormal powers!
@@ducie1191 Oh yeah ? Seems You were never around dogs in Your life ! They can SMELL what You think . Even I can't be in a room full of negative people . Seems You lack of some sences and as these pajama - guy fans , of heart .
Dogs are pack animals. They need a leader. And if the owner is not providing it, it can have very bad outcomes. Dogs are NOT children.
Yes yes yes! We’ve been saying Zak has worked with dogs with the same behaviors, he just doesn’t escalate the situation like that guy. Can we get more videos (and more in depth) videos like this? People get so dejected because a true bond and learning takes time, patience, and sometimes creativity. This video really brings that to light.
What I see is that DD fixed 100 dogs while Zak was still puss*ing around with an already obedient dog, throwing some peanuts and balls. DD will overtake Zak and deservedly
@@saskiak5004correction, you are sick, but not because of DD fans. You're truly deluded. There are such beings as aggressive dogs, and there are non-aggressive dogs. The difficult ones, your loser idol has no solution for, even though in your fantasy world all dogs throw up their paw for this Zak hero after 50 hot dogs and 3 years of patient waiting. In reality Zak likes to attack competitors more than fixing dogs. It's a typical mistake, seeing other's mistakes, owning the truth, while being oblivious to your own shortcomings. Now go on dreaming, you read like a moron I'll add.
@@Mark-pb4dn There might be a difference...might be as well as prisoners...they get "educated" and when liberated they just go back to their behaviour...
Problem is that there are other trainers that teach obedience and discipline...but never get to dd level...i mean seriously...that's just abusive. Upstate canine academy is a channel that proves exactly that...
@@rob.ale90 you may have spent time on Zak's channel but not on DD's.
There's the debate between balanced and positive, the balanced use both positive and corrective.
I recommend Woof pack's 12min vid zZWGlLb6KTU who lays it out
Exactly, and it´s so unspectacular as well. I feel like in Zaks class the owner knows what to do in the end, in DDs class he does everything and then what? If the dog stays good all is well, but if it escalates again I don´t feel like the owners would really know what to do which probably got them to where they are in the first place.
I think we can all agree that dog daddy isn’t the best trainer in the world. But, using an example of a dog that seems to be just mildly reactive is not the same as some of the legitimately aggressive dogs shown on DD’s channel. This video is only going to reinforce your own audience, not change the minds of desperate people with aggressive dogs.
Edit: please reread the last sentence. It’s not relevant to my point whether or not he’s getting them to act more aggressive. The desperate owners that go to him go to him for a reason and that’s extreme behavior issues. The dog shown in this video was FAR from the extreme. Those ignoring that are proving my point about this video simply reinforcing your own audience.
The only reason all the dogs DD is handling seem more aggressive is because he is actively escalating the situation.
He uses proper techniques dogs in whole react like PAC animal if you don't asert yourself as lead pack by challenging their dominance they will act like this because they think they are alpha , you should never let your animal eat where u eat or sleep where u sleep. Especially if they are alpha type dogs
@tysonrojas5477 yeah the whole Alpha Omega bs was disproven by the guy originally wrote the theory. Real wolf packs don't operate based off assertion or "dominance". They're literally just family units. The "alpha" male and "alpha" female are just the parents of the rest of the pack members.
That being said, this theory has caused so much conflict in many homes. I can't tell you how many times I've come to a client with a dog that's drawn blood and they though they needed to use the Cesar Malone pin or DD tug and done. Techniques like these have been observed again and again to produce dogs that are far less predictable, aergo more dangerous. It's OK not to know. We don't know what we don't know till we know lmao. The same principles that guide me and Zaks criticisms are what guided zoo keepers to train lions and wolves for cooperative care. If zookeepers don't need to use avversives on actual wolves and big cats to get them to cooperate and listen then we don't need to be using avversives as flagrantly as we do with dogs.
@@wigi-gum6093Read only the first paragraph to know you're absolutely full of it. Ever heard of peck order (in birds), the whole of nature is based on that the strongest comes first. But for you, there's this gentleman humanlike society where all the dogs sit at a table discussing socialist ideals under a fine wine.
@@wigi-gum6093 so your a dog trainer or have some sort of experience haha prob not
I have lots of experience with bigger than usual dogs including a lot of bullies and mastives
So I can tell you from experience it's very true idc what some guy said 100 years ago 🤣 I know from experience And experience from other more experienced trainers
I still don't see much real progress, so the dog just got used to and more comfortable in one very controlled environment and did some very basic training. Were they soon able to do this out in a public? Was he able to soon be off leash mixing with other dogs and people? And you did not show the progress DD shows he makes, only the first initial meetings with different dogs.
This. Exactly. The question should be, at the end of the day if my dog gets lost, runs away from home or whatever circonstances that could lead them to wind up on their own.. will they be safe, and behave properly without the owner around? I believe both methods are important one to build trust and a loving, tender relationship with your dog, and the second, to make sure they won't lash out to a kid or another animal who might run towards them.
So many Dog Dangler bots in the comments.
Yes, acclimate your dog first. Time and patience are so important. Just like people, our precious dogs don't learn or grasp from A to Z instantly. Great informative video
That made me cry, those poor scared to death dogs 😢
I can see how what Zak is doing is training, but this was hard to watch because the other person is abusing dogs. There needs to be a protected title for animal behaviourists
Zak, more series like the one with George, or even better, shorter series around dogs with behavioural issues would be so powerful against advocates of outdated methods.
It makes me so upset to see that extreme force what people say is training … training is bonding not creating a boundary with fear like that I mean thos dogs are just being thrown around I don’t even see how it’s not been flagged as abuse since it’s being plastered on the internet
I recently discovered DD, and have watched quite a few of his videos.
It seems that with fear agressive dogs, his approach seems very similar to Cesar Millans aproach.
Both recognize that a dog cannot learn until they are out of that fearful state of mind.
I also follow Robert Cabral, and Nate Schumer, for basic dog training.
All though Robert does not put out these kinds of videos, he ran a rehabilitation type rescue, and works with a shelter in LA to train staff, and help with rehabilitaion of adoptable dogs.
Fear aggressive dogs seem to be a really big problem these days. I truly believe that it's never the dogs fault, it comes from the human not providing the very necessary structure for the dog.
And it boggles my mind that with all of the information out there, that people still have no idea of what it takes to have a mentally stable dog.
I'm don't have the knowledge to advocate for DD's approach, or not. But extreme fear aggressive dogs are very dangerous.
It's saddens me that their owners are so clueless.
Nobody can learn anything without being corrected when they make a mistake, that includes dogs... correction, not punishment.
Once a dog has learned something, and understands what's expected of them, owners need to follow through.
I assure you I am coming at this in good faith. You are listening to the wrong crowd if you are concerned with actual behavior science. The individuals you listed are highly problematic in our field. Keep in mind people like Robert Cabral routinely state that science doesn’t have anything to do with dog training which is deeply concerning in a scientific profession like behavior science.
@@zakgeorge thank you for your feedback.
Most of us that are trying to learn, and do the best that we can for our dogs are absolutely flooded with so much information out there, and not being a "professional" in dog phycology, and behavior, it's very difficult to know what to believe, or who to trust.
I've been diving deeper because of the very fearful, and sensitive, shelter dog that I adopted 2 weeks ago.
I'd love to work on obedience, just to exercise her brain, but still haven't found anything that will get her excited enough to engage with me.
Not sure if it's her age, but pretty sure no one has ever asked anything from her, other than corrections to things like barking. She definitely responds to a stern tone, and the word "no".
Hopefully with more time, we will get there together.
Thank you Zack
@@fallbrkgrlyou can't make any progress with a fearful dog by giving them more things to fear or giving them a reason to fear they will be harmed in some way. One of the best ways to make your dog comfortable with you and their new environment is to try handfeeding. Try spending every mealtime with your dog near you and only put a small amount into the dish at a time if taking food from you is too scary. Just like it is for people, mealtime can be a very bonding experience. An insecure dog isn't likely to want to play and engage until they are secure so it takes patience not force.
do not take any advice from this man please i beg of you dog trainers have been a thing for a very long time, way before people like this decided to try and claim its purely science based its a farce to make money off people because he know they will need to keep coming back to him. he cannot change any of his views on training now because he is locked into it because of social media money he makes.
@@homeshows
Thanks for the reply.
I'll try that, although she sometimes is still reluctant to take treats for my hand, so I end up putting them on the floor.
We'll see, I'll keep trying.
Thanks again.
One is man handling dogs. Just like the old schooled way of riding a horse and letting him buck it out vs gaining trust and then riding him. Which would lead to way less reaction
DD is also helping 10+ dogs in seminars. He doesn’t have the luxury of time and multiple meetings
looks kind of funny Zak throwing treats at the dog who clearly is not interested in them. Still they keep coming 😂
Are you comparing this dogs feeble bark and growl to the dogs in the videos you are displaying of DD? As a trainer who has been training dogs longer than George has been alive, there is absolutely NO COMPARISON.
For anyone saying that positive reinforcement is useless against the most reactive dogs, check the “Its me or the dog channel” here you can find dogs that are way more aggressive than the one on this video and at the end they manage to sucesfully train them Including the owner to stop these behaviors from happening without using methods that could potentially severely harm the dog like the one dog daddy shows where they force a dog into a situation that they are not comfortable with.
The dogs on "It's me of the dog" are not more aggressive than the dogs on DD channel. The only aggressive dogs (especially towards people) you see on Rachel's channel are little dog breeds. DD helps large and powerful dogs that are more susceptible to being euthanized because of their behavior.
Looked it up, like the channel, but still not seeing any videos of malicious dogs. Fear aggression is not the same.
It might look like everyone agrees with Zak if you look at the comments but any that doesn’t fit his narrative even if you slightly disagree he’ll delete them
Not true! We don’t delete comments here unless they are racist or a homophobic or something along those lines.
So what was your comment. Do you support abusive dog training? If so, are you a behavior expert or what sources do you cite to justify how these address underlying causes? Ask yourself why you feel so passionately about supporting methods like this?
@@zakgeorgedon’t lie. I wrote my comment to give my opinion, came back and the comment was gone and we all know why.
@@zakgeorgeyou saw my comment that’s why you deleted it don’t act dumb now
@@zakgeorgeand as for what trainers I watch/listen to here are a few
American standard dog training
Nate schoemer
Robert Cabral
Stonnie Dennis
Will atherton
I’d advice anyone that sees this to check these guys out amongst others
This comparison is ridiculous! Your dog is still and pretty relaxed meanwhile DD fights with beasts. I would like to see how you would deal with that mad Akita for example.
People are completely crazy if they give their dogs to a man that handles them like that. They are terrified. A lot of dogs would react in an agressive way to defend themselves if treated like that. I am honestly surprised that is accepted in the US, I think if somebody did those things in Brazil, they would get arrested. The solution is to make the dog understand we are safe to be around and that we can be trusted, like Zak does.
They aren't being handled aggressively.... they're being aggressive because they're being handled. You can't compare one calm dog with a dog that's lunging at your throat trying to kill you... lol.
If i was a Dog I would never Trust him, and they dont, Look at His Video with the German shepard, Zack George dont understand dogbodylanguage or He ignores IT, His arrogance and ignorance fear dogs - and people Like me - when IAM on His Channel I make His Sound off- thinking about what Kind of sickness He has
There is NO comparison between the two dogs. Why don’t you attend one of the DOg Daddy’s seminars and take on one of those aggressive dogs! You would not survive the experience period. There is a lot of hot air in this video of yours.
Augusto is putting reactive dogs into situations where they are highly stressed. He is pushing them to react in an extreme way. There is no need for this.
@@FoxbrushDraws Exactly. The people defending Augusto don't seem to understand that he is escalating the situation with his approach, making the dogs more anxious and more aggressive. So that's why it looks like he can "handle aggressive dogs" but a good dog trainer doesn't let the dog get to that point. A good trainer progresses slowly and examines the dogs body language. Communicating with a dog is so important to build trust. If you don't have patience and determination, don't work with dogs.
There is no comparison dog Daddy's pretty much abusive
The people defending him beat their dogs at home
@@tiffanyeverard8817 and how do you know this??? You sound like a preteen child.
I don’t see how this clown has all this following. It really is scary
Just watching this made me nauseas and to think he would do that with my dog I can’t imagine
Thank you for bringing awareness to this dangerous guy.
? you think treats are gonna work for every dog? for sure not for the aggressive dogs dog daddy deals with zak george doesnt deal with highly aggressive dogs like dog daddy.
@@focus4088 Right, Zak dog is shy where DD dog is very aggressive in this video, Zak needs a life
Notice most of his vids are pupoies
An aggressive dog or fearful dog does not need to be met with aggression! It starts with trust and you build that slowly
There is no quick fix and this is not a fix forever. I dealt with aggressive dogs and never ever would I handle these dogs like that
yep while zaks dog wasnt as aggressive and fearful as dd dog was and it was tooken out of context@@karenmichaud1356
I would like to see other trainers and you working with serious behavior issues together. Not to see whose methods is right, or better, but to come together to help the dog.
Why didn't you show DD with the same dog like you had and how it turned out? You kept showing the same deceptively edited clips of the dogs being agitated for being handled when they wanted to just keep popping off. Wonder how it turned out for those dogs? Too bad you didnt show....guess your audience only gets to see what you want them to see.
I want to give you a fair listen, but i have an very reactive dog. We hired an in home trainer to come work with him. Her methods were similar to yours, but she never even tried to get close to him. He was not interested in the treats, it was a lot of money wasted. This dog in your video is not the same level as the dogs the other person works with. Can you do a video of you working with that type of dog? I have seen others mention Grisha Stewart and Michael shikashio as recommendations. I will go check them out. It would be nice if you could work to showcase these other trainers methods on how to do things a different way instead of maligning another trainer. Do the people who go to him sign an NDA or if the method doesn't work can they come forward & tell their own stories?
Thank you for all you do!!!!
Dogdaddy deserves to be in jail. Absolute animal abuse on his part. So infuriating!
dog daddy should be trained in manners by his own methods. He doesn't deserve to be called a human.
I sure hope that no parents let their kid(s) be around DD. These poor dogs…his ‘audience’ is so brainwashed.
The DD followers are so brainwashed that they think this is okay, then they'll hate watch Zak's videos, leaving comments about him being envious or "look at it in context".
It's pure insanity. How can they think this is OK?? No amount of context will ever make it OK! Good lord. It's downright disgusting what DD is doing.
I have never seen Zach George work with a red zone case. The bulldog in this video is just a fearful dog. No signs of aggresion. Until he posts a video with a dog lunging and trying to bite his face off, then I'll take him seriously.
Very dishonest editing.
I wanted to jump through the screen and help that poor baby trying to hold onto the railing to get away from him.😢. Thank you for teaching a better method. Even though my dog is still crazy excited, I appreciate the videos I can turn to for help.
so you are saying that you have been training your dog with ZAK and your dog is still crazy excited, see that it worked well for you and your poor dog 🤣🤣😂😂
@@karenmichaud1356Right lol... it's obviously not very effective.
Wich method ever Z.G. has teached? Did he ever trained these kind of dogs, sorry, that adult people are not willing to see the whole training and the results, everybody with eyes can see that also in the whole viedeos
Ugghh how can ppl allow someone to treat their dog like this right in front of their eyes 😢
Those DD videos are traumatising. Any cruel idiot can shut a dog down. The dog has learned only that humans are dangerous.
I was so traumatized by watching DD, wtf???!!!! How does he think that is training??!! He’s making these dogs so fearful and scared. Please please please continue to make everyone aware of what he is doing so that owners will see this is NOT the way to train a dog, thank you Zak for all that your doing to make people aware of these “trainers”
Yes. It appears he is absolutely unnecessarily escalating things for his audience.
Cause u know shit about dogs nature if u just use brain for second u will see that he comunicate like alfa dog would hust without using fangs he use safer methods that doesnt harm dogs
Please watch a whole video of Dog Daddy. Zak just shows snippets to get your attention. Augusto cares deeply for all animals. You will see the most troubled dogs get over their triggers to dogs that just need direction. He also volunteers at shelters so these dogs don't get euthanized.
Need to look at it in context. You just cannot trust the way zak edited the clip. I think Zak is out of clients and is using misinformation to claw back. Look at DD in context. DD is a great trainer for really difficult dogs.
Zak- mmmmmehh
You were so traumatized? What you see is how these dogs are daily at home, in the shelters, etc, how they are they can avoid, leashes, muzzles, other animals at home, visitors, vets, going outside, trainers without any experience like Z.G. couldnt train and rehabilitate them, and then? Nobody wants them and then? Iam thankfull for these trainers to show the dogs and people to go trough their fears and learn how to life in society witout fears
Is it season 2 already? Someone needs to recap season 1 for me.
Please see the fulk videos before judging, he shows his full video with one dog bits of the other ones with diferent dogs... show the full videos
As a fellow trainer who's worked with positive reinforcement, I've seen several dogs trained in the manner DD does and those are the dogs I've found that can unexpectedly lash out and bite later down the line. His way may be putting a bandage on the problem making it seem like the dog is trained but I completely agree with you Zak that targeting the root cause of the problem and understating what the dog is trying communicate and work with them not against them produces a healthy well-rounded dog.
Thank you for saying this. I appreciate this comment so much.
DD (I'll be somewhat adult and not write what I feel the initials *really* stand for!) really does sicken me. I'm currently 41, but back when I was a teenager, I'm ashamed to admit, I trained with somewhat dominant methods - nothing even close to what he does though.
But shortly after I started using my own version of positive reinforcement (I still hadn't discovered that it was actually a thing yet, lol) and a switch flipped for both my dogs and myself. That's when I started researching positive reinforcement only methods, and I'll defend these methods with everything I have in me.
The bond between the handler and dog are the most important thing, imo, in dog training. And forcing a dog to work "through" that fear, in such a short time, is beyond dangerous. And it does absolutely nothing to strengthen the bond - only weaken it. No one should have to do anything out of fear. There are no shortcuts in life, despite what he and his followers would like to think.
I really would love to see some follow ups from some of those dogs that DD "trained" so well.
As much as agree that this is putting a bandage on the issue, I'm increasingly worried that people are approaching animal abuse from the wrong angle.
The question here shouldn't be wether or not it "works". Those elephant abusers can genuinely say their methods work, because they do work for their purposes.
The problem is not wether abuse works for "training" an animal or not. The problem is that it's abusive, regardless.
I’m shocked this guy still make videos I remember first time watching this guy was 6-7 years ago when I first got my dog
nah zak just hates on all other trainers these days or posts really old clips of himself.
So very distressing to see that POS hard handling. Strangling those dogs.
I use POS as when I use the T word I keep getting warnings 😂
I have enjoyed Dog Daddy and dealing with hard to train dogs however, if my dog is scared, don’t come up and grab the leash and start jerking him/her around. I am always seeking to learn from a better informed dog trainer who treats each dog according to that dogs personality, not always based on their breed. I foster cattle dogs and they each come packed with surprises. We take each one and work from the bottom up.
I truly believe in the 3-3-3 method to start training them the basics! Thanks for teaching me more today than I knew yesterday.🤗🙏🏼👍🏼👏🏼
I see one timid dog that isn't aggressive towards you throwing treats. Vs a dog trainer who is going up MULTIPLE aggressive dogs who eventually settle down and begin to obey the dog trainer.
Most aggression you see in dogs is fear aggression.
Growling and barking at people would be met with "correction" by people like Augusto. It would end up pushing the dog to react more extremely.
Imagine if Zak had totally ignored Beaux's growling and just walked up to him or tried to handle him off the bat. More than likely, you would have seen a more extreme reaction, biting, lunging, or snapping. But because Zak doesn't bulldoze the dog's boundaries and comfort, you don't see that. But don't take that to mean that Beaux isn't a reactive dog.
@@FoxbrushDraws reactivity is complex and it isnt always fear aggression. It can be, but it can be a LOT of other things as well.
Seeing that abuser is so upsetting that I couldn't even make it one minute into the video. I had to scroll down to the comments so I don't see him. Thank you for being the voice of reason, Zak, and educating the public. I hope those owners seeking help from dog daddy come to their senses.
I dunno what's gonna convince people. I'd rather not see any more animal abuse this year if I can help it though. I just want my friend to not nibble my ankles habitually right now.
Can't you do like a counter training thing at the same locations and let owners pick between you both. "We WONT abuse your furry friends" seems like an easy counter-marketing slogan, even for a stressed pet owner. You gotta know other trainers that would help.
DD is saving many aggressive dogs that everyone else has given up on. Why would you want to stop someone who is preventing these dogs from being put down?
Why not show the results of Dog Daddy's training? When you show the worst of someone and the best of yourself you are not sharing accurate information. Those dogs you see Dog Daddy training had incredible results and the owners were extremely pleased. It would be great for you two to meet in person and train dogs together, just squash the anger and frustration you have with him. That would demonstrate real professionalism, skills, and technique. You have both had great success training dogs, I saw your video on training a food-aggressive animal it was of great value, why not try to work together instead of talking down about someone else's work?
The problem is that non-behavior experts don’t understand how to interpret these so-called results you’re referring to. What you are actually witnessing is a dog responding to a threat or stress response shutting down and not jumping and lunging like they were triggered to do moments earlier. This actually isn’t dog training but a fight or flight response that does not address underlying issues. This is what we professionals are trying to alert the public about.
@@zakgeorge check out other behavioural experts who have similar balance training approaches with dogs. They have agreed on podcasts and working directly with the Dog Daddy that these techniques are effective. Why not work together instead of beating each other up? is it not about the dogs anymore and only about the clicks?
To work with DD as dog trainers coming together, Zak and others would have to agree that DD is a dog trainer in the first place. He’s not training those dogs, he’s modifying behavior in the moment based on fear, that’s not a dog trainer, anyone can do that. Abused kids learn to not do certain things to not get hit, these dogs are not different in that. They are learning by DDs methods to avoid certain behaviors to not get unwanted results.
@bpurdx do you have any examples? I'm curious to look into this, I think balanced training really is the best bet for dog training
Because he is hurting dogs. I can’t speak for Zak, but personally I am not going to work together with somebody until they stop hurting dogs. And I don’t care if the methods are effective, if they hurt a dog I’m not doing them.
Cortisol is the stress hormone. When we or dogs are full of stress our brains are full of cortisol. Cortisol blocks learning. “Dog Daddy” consistently uses behaviors that continue or increase the dog’s cortisol. Therefore the dog’s brain chemistry is blocking learning. Among the ways the body can release cortisol, and therefore be chemically able to learn, is through positive physical activity. When Beau began fetching, you can see his stress level decrease - his cortisol brain load decrease, therefore his brain is becoming chemically ready to learn.
Well stated!
It’s exciting as a teacher when you see that change.
Bro you r head n shoulders above that abuser,i have no problem wit correction but he is pure abuse.cant believe ppl go 2 him shame on u
The reason owners bring their dogs to this man is they want and think he’s giving them a quick fix. I appreciate people have busy lives but how is manhandling the dog with prong collars and the like teaching them anything other than people equals pain. Surely slow and steady wins the race by changing the dog’s mindset and perception of people.
Does someone have the link to the original Zak George video?
This is shocking!! I didn't even realize that the bozo on the bottom screen was supposed to be a dog trainer!! I am absolutely appalled that anyone takes their dog to this charlatan! I have been doing behavior modification for 13 years at a large shelter and have been fortunate enough to save hundreds of dogs who were "trained" like this from being euthanized after their owners dumped them off. Some of these poor dogs never fully recover from this abuse. Thankfully there are people like Zak out there showing people that training your dog is about learning how to properly communicate with them, NOT shoving them around and forcing them into situations they're not ready for. Thanks for doing such an important job Zak, and for doing it well.
Zak, I love watching you work, but I just can’t get through your videos that include clips of DD. I understand why you are doing it and I applaud you. I know it sickens you too. I believe it’s happening, I don’t understand it, but I just can’t watch it.
I can not watch more than 15 sec.. because it makes me extremely depressed and angry so thank you so much for the trigger warning.
But i have watched himfor years so i know what he stands for AND i know what YOU stand for- and that is enough for me to say: THANK YOU for your hard work to stop this horiffic abusive clown.
I thinbk oneof the reasonsthis type of "training" is so popular in USA is tradition.. You see it in all kinds of animal handling in USA.. luckily more people are breaking out of it and getting good education in how to train without violence....
.You have 100% of support from a ton of trainers here in Norway. Keep up the good work my friend.
God Bless you and your sweet wife .--. BIG HUGS from us here at GMH.
It’s upsetting me seeing the way that moron DD treats dogs - why would you allow someone to treat your dog like that. 😢
I literally held my hand over the bottom half of the screen after about 10 seconds. DD doesn't train. He bullies and abuses. Thank you Zak for continuing to speak out about this despicable person and for demonstrating what dog training should look like.
Love this video! Patience and lots of work is what I've learned in training my agressive dog. Zak's training techniques have been a life saver for me and my dog!
ENVY... 😢
He is literally trying to snap their necks it’s so abusive and horrible it’s also .. terrible for the person because if the person gets that dog home and it happens to be aggressive it’s now A traumatized aggressive dog so it can snap on the owner or someone else .. thank you for sharing this and keeping persistent to show there is a better way
What a load of rubbish
I don’t see Beaux lunging at you or trying to bite you, like I see it with Augusto. Beaux is barking but trying to be a good boy, just trying to avoid you. If you really thought that you would convince people with this, man you are helpless. Show us some real proof!!!
Lmao Zak is corny for this but damn, that’s good work.. def made the dog daddy look like a nut job 😅 dog daddy doesn’t like to drag out training sessions for years and years but you’re also not showing his results. His approach is definitely different but it doesn’t mean he’s not effective. It would be a better video if you compared end results…. Just my opinion. Not everyone who approaches this dog is going to throw turkey at him or pull out a ball for the dog 😂 …It’s just not practical Zak… the video is definitely accomplishing what you want to say about dog daddy but it doesn’t show end results. It’s a little unfair and misleading lol 😅
Learned helplessness doesn’t count as “results” because underlying causes are unaddressed with these methods.
@@zakgeorge You have no proof that your results are better for the same dog and situation.
There are enough dogs for every trainer. Spread love for those trying to save dogs not war.
Some of his followers are telling him to sue for slander I don't think they really get the bigger picture
Thank you for this video Zak, I really don’t understand the logic behind the DD method. Keep up the good fight. Oh and thank you for helping me training my dog train my dog, and the trusting relationship I have with her 😊
I had a hard time watching dog daddy’s clips. It gets me angry seeing dogs treated like that!
The dog daddy is literally throwing the dog on the ground. Thank you so much for showing everyone that abusive and training isn't the only way to help aggressive dogs.
I can't even watch this I'm focusing on you and what you're saying and if I look down I wanna cry
I have a Bo such similar markings as well he is responding very well to this type of training. I have lots of folks around me on the streets willing to work to know him ❤ that film underneath is so traumatizing who the hell is like this ? I hate it😢
what a fake guru. You dont want to learn how to train a dog from someone that makes their money by telling others how to train their dog. You wanna learn from someone that actually trains dogs with a good track record like dog daddy!
Thanks for making this video !! I find His typ of training horrible
Anyone who says this doesn't know dogs. Watch how dogs train each other. Watch how dogs discipline each other. It looks brutal but it isn't.
@@maureencallahan1604 well that’s your opinion. And this is mine. And I have never seen a dog strangle another dog with his paws by pulling on the leash
The assertion that dogs inherently train each other through aggression is a gross oversimplification and misinterpretation of canine behavior. It disregards decades of research in applied animal behavior that show the complexity and specificity of dog social structures. Dogs, like many animals, have a wide range of social interactions that are far from solely aggressive. They communicate and learn through various means, including play, body language, and vocalization. To reduce this intricate tapestry to mere aggression is to ignore the essence of what makes dogs unique as social animals. Advocating for modern training methods is not a lack of understanding, but rather a reflection of a comprehensive and updated grasp of how dogs actually interact and learn, backed by scientific study and humane practice.
@@maureencallahan1604 Dogs can kill each other. Dogs can kill puppies even. Nature involves survival and can be brutal. It looks brutal because it is brutal and you are defending brutality. Look in the mirror and see what that makes you.
@@maureencallahan1604dogs deliver measured corrections to eachother. they communicate with eachother. what this man is doing is actively ignoring he dogs communications and HURTING and TRAUMATISING them. watch how some humans discipline eachother by shooting eachother, would you like to be shot for simply stating your feelings? no, i didn’t think so.
This was so hard to watch. Forcing your presence on a dog without working up to it is so bad! That is not the way to train a dog. Thank you Zak for working with dogs, not dominating them.
is this a demonstration of how many dogs dog daddy can calm down before zak calms one?
Thank you for bringing light to this horrible method of "dog training." I hope people will realize it's not training its abuse!
I do too.
This video is super jarring. I feel like I actually need to visit this guys channel to find clarity. Is this a compilation of shorts or something wtf am I even looking at
This is how we communicates with dogs. Once they are shut down and terrified he claims success. He is actually a proper charlatan in our industry which is why I am devoting a little bit of time to exposing him. Just a snake oil salesman nothing more.
@@ZaryaTheLaika No, it is called manipulation of the content.
watch the bottom half on mute, then watch the top half with the audio on. ignore all text.
top is commenting on bottom. basically top = good
If you were looking for a truly comparable videos, here is the one from DD: ruclips.net/video/D42s0LVuJ_k/видео.html And still - DD gets better results with his techniques as the dog moves more comfortably among different people in result of getting more diversed, POSITIVE experiences.
The two examples are entirely different. The dog in the top screen is nervous and a bit jumpy, might lunge if you come too close….the one at the bottom is clearly terrified, aggressive and distressed and the guy is showing him who’s in charge. I don’t know who’s who but the guy at the bottom takes it for me. Guy at the top has it easy here and I doubt he’d cope with a big, aggressive dog..
Bro you said at 0:52 yourself that beau is not likely to be aggressive. A bark at you as you approach? As others have said, show us your methods on a truely aggressive dog, one that lunges at you to bite and you'll have everyone convinced
Something I just noticed about dog daddy - he wears sunglasses all the time which prevents him from making eye contact with the dogs. Is he purposefully doing that to prevent connection between him and the dogs?
shows the first 30 seconds of the other guys training and the whole beginning middle and end of his which was god know how long in real time.
wow you cannot even say the dogs are even the same, night and day. DD dog has a muzzle on, where yours is just shy, STOP THE HATE AND GET A LIFE.
Dog Daddy is awesome Zak and you need to quite taking pieces and melding them to create a false narrative. Zak doesn't volunteer to help shelter dogs . He sits behind a desk. Dog Daddy RULES. DON'T BUY INTO ZAK HARRASSING OTHERS.
You have found 1 video of yourself all the way from 2013 while you found several video’s of DD that tries to help those dogs.
Zak your strength lies with teaching how to raise puppies correctly. Your +R methodes are great for that and it will make sure the dogs maybe won’t turn into those aggressive dogs. Let other dog trainers handle those aggressive dogs, to make sure they won’t be put down
I’m just gonna say this that one video isn’t enough yes, but do you see the other videos that harmful way of teaching is not OK for animals that is abuse and if you stand by abuse, you’re just as bad as that trainer. Zach’s video he introduces himself to the dog warms up to the dog. The other trainer just walks up and grab the leash and throws the dog around and hurts the dog that’s teaching that’s training a dog to be better no wtf.
I'm from the Netherlands, and I never heard of dog daddy before. But seeing this, I think he is very cruel and not a daddy to a dog at all. I think he should go to prison for abuse.
he's the best dog trainer around, educate yourself
Bro. Why don't you look into it more before just trusting this pervert liar Zak George?
@Mark-pb4dn I don't go into discussions on the internet. I state my opinion. If you don't like my opinion, that's ok with me. I won't change my opinion about Dog Daddy. Under Dutch law, he would be judged because of animal cruelty. If you feel he is great ...again that is ok with me. I wish you a happy life and a good future.
So you now know all you need to, from just 1 1sided video?
@@yanaa1964 I'm also Dutch, but Western culture is all the same, placing all the emphasis on pussying around. Then when you meet a dog, it turns out that you don't understand nature, and your methods don't work, which leads to death of innocent dogs that noone can work with. So it's your ignorance that's the problem here. That you say that you "won't change your opinion" just means that you're extra brainwashed, and want to solve all problems in the world with love and softness. Have you ever looked at a mama dog, how she keeps order? You or Zak wouldn't be able to maintain order on a single recalcitrant puppy.
Firstly, i train my dogs NEVER to accept food from a stranger. It must always come from my hand because I will not risk them eating something they should not. Secondly, this wasnt even a close comparison to the type of dogs your nemesis handles, which was supposed to be the angle of the video was it not? Sorry, not even close mate. This dog was not aggressive at all, just wary and on protection duty.
I think dogs are individuals as much as we are. Different needs for different personalities
I dunno man, I can see how being more hands on is necessary. Not all help looks pretty, and people are generally smart enough to tell the difference between intervention and actual abuse.
Yeah, it was hard to watch what was going on in the bottom half of the screen. We have a dog with her own issues we're slowly figuring out & it would shatter my heart to see her in that kind of situation. There is just no need for it
As this may come to a suprice to alot of dog owners out there >>Training your dog and guiding them = they will be confident and non reactive dogs
Weeks and weeks and weeks of time and multiple training is great for you but not so much for the the owners and the dog. What happens when that dog hurts other dogs and/or people during this lengthy time of training sessions? And worse case what if the dog has to be put down before you can do your weeks and weeks of training. This is a very real situation i am speaking of and one i have witnessed happening.
I don't think they watch the whole video either. Basically I commented on his video saying what he's doing making a whole post about you saying that you're trying to shut down small businesses is more slander than you reviewing a video
Yes, let's compare totally different scenarios and not show any of the actual results.😂