I had no idea that it took more than a decade to get Dr. Adder into print - my copy is from 1988, and I naively assumed that it had been written a few years before that. Jeter is amazing. I can also recommend John Shirley as another great writer who's under-appreciated.
Yes, Shirley is great, something coming up here soon about his work- we've interacted a bit at a distance, he supplied a quote for the cover of one of my books and once sent me a copy of his then newest novel, great guy.
ruclips.net/video/0tRC2pz5fKQ/видео.html - link to my Morrigan video for anyone interested in more Jeter, R A Lafferty, Keith Roberts, Misha, James Blaylock and more...
Great video! I bought "Dr Adder" years and years ago, but so far I did not yet read it, so this is a strong reminder. By the way: At the time I bought the "Dr Adder" paperback, I also bought another book written by K.W. Jeter: "Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human". And yes, it is also a book that I have not read yet. This one seems to be a sequel to the Ridley Scott movie and not to "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep". My copy was published as a PB by Orion in the UK, using the Blade Runner Trademark under license from the Film company (The Blade Runner Partnership) and is copyrighted by the Philip K. Dick Trust. Which in itself is an interesting publication / ownership structure, I guess. The UK hardcover edition was published by Millenium in 1995. I have no idea whether there is a US original edition. It seems to me that this novel does not play any role in the movie canon of "Blade Runner", the short movies in between and "Blade Runner 2049". Therefore, my question: Do you happen to own and/or have read "Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human" by K.W. Jeter or did you hear anything about it? Keep up the good work! Greetings from Hamburg
Yes, I read 'Bladerunner 2' when it was first published. It's interesting, refers to both the film and the original novel - eveything JW does is interesting- but you have to remember these things are done for commercial reasons, not aesthetic ones. I don't consider it 'canonical' as such as the canon I'm interested in is PKD's novels. More interesting is Alan E Nourse's novel 'The Bladerunner' and William S Burroughs screen treatment of the same, both of which precede the film 'Blade Runner'- my first Cardiff bookshopping video, in which I buy and Allen E Nourse book, covers this. Great to hear from someone in Hamburg!
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I've always avoided the Bladerunner books, as to me they are 'product'. Licensed stuff is often an unappealing mix of work for hire and helping companies putting stakes in possibly otherwise shaky IP rights. That said, a good writer can do something with them, I loved the Games Workshop Dark Future Books written by Jack Yeovil (Kim Newman) as they seemed to be perfect pulp, taking what was a Cars Wars/Mad Max rip-off into weirder and more interesting territory.
OB, just have to say, love the old analog synth music in the intro! Nice touch. I've owned many ARP, Moog and Oberheim analog synths back in the day, as I needed them to survive, being a full time minstrel at the time. You flirt with anarchy in so many ways, yet present a picture of refined intellectualism and staid Brit gentry despite my suspicion you were an incorrigible bohemian at some point in the back alleys of Soho in the 70's/80's. Can't imagine I'm too far off... :) Cheers. Oh, great take on Jeter!
Great book ,read it 3 times, together with Glass Hammer and Farewell Horizontal also by Jeter. I remember buying these books at Forbidden Planet London early 90's. I've got a Signet paperback American edition same cover as your hardcover.
I'm working my way through all the videos on your channel, so many great books to buy and i've ordered quite a few in the last few days, thanks Stephen!
Pleasure. Anyone who says 'I'm working my way through the backlist' makes my day, I can tell you. Let me know how you get on with the various titles you buy as you read 'em.
I came across a song on RUclips called Dr Adder by Cassandra Complex. They credit it to the novel on their website, along with a song based on a Thomas S. Disch book 'Why?' Nice to know the cult of Dr Adder has other devotees. "I’m having a party with two junkie wh*res They smile at me sweetly, thy say give me some more So I tie them together and they start to get mad Please come back Dr. Adder, we need you real bad Give me what I want, give me what I need Give me everything, I’m going to make you bleed"
In the eighties I found a magazine called Amputee Times in the pr0n section of a magazine shop. Very...interesting. A few years later I bought a copy of Dr. Adder because I'd read other books by Jeter. I've forgotten the plots of those other books but Adder blew my mind. When I was in college I had a "alternative reading list" I shared with others, which included: Dr. Adder, Bataille's Story of the Eye, Jim Thompson's Killer Inside me and Harry Crews Feast of Snakes. If someone read all four, I knew they were cool. Interesting to see Cronenberg's new movie has Adder-eque themes. It's all coming together.
I think he's hugely underrated and his absence from reprint schedules only underlines the neglect of truly radical SF there is these days- everyone interested in SF and Horror as literary forms should engage with KW, I feel. Keep searching...
Good for you - it's pretty intense. The first chapter is pretty disorienting, but stick with it and remember my reading as a guide to Limmit's situation at the start of the novel. Hope you enjoy it- it's an experience!
It arrived in the post today. It’s the Grafton, Panther Science Fiction from 1987 edition. Formerly belonged to the Edinburgh University Science Fiction and Fantasy Society.
Such a wild read. Cant wait to watch this when I get home. Also makes me think Alexa is spying on me, as I just edited my top 10 cyberpunk novels vid (less than an hour ago) in Final Cut Pro and had Dr. Adder in my honorable mentions.
This book is pure imagination fuel. I saw myself in Limit, in the sewer girl, Dr.Adder, the rooftop snipers and the father with his rebellious son. I was especially fascinated by the C.I.A metal arm, Dr.Adders sheer coolness and the fact that he could literally see the truth about people and my personal favourite the sensless girl whose brain learned to transceive e.m waves all while being an existential mindf*ck.
I 100% agree, for Dr Adder alone KW is a more important writer than Powers and Blaylock, but perhaps less market awareness. I bought my copy of the limited edition from KW when he lived in Bath. One thing I've wondered about is whether KW was familiar with Ballard's pieces that became The Atrocity Exhibition, it seems to me that there is some correlation between that and Doctor Adder in an indirect way.
I'm sure he must have been a Ballardian. I like Powers and Blaylock, but to me Jeter is far superior, but as you say, not so commercial- I think 'Dr Adder' and 'Wolf Flow' are both magnificent and lots of his other stuff works for me too..
It is really something, especially when you think it was written around 1972. One of the few SF novels pre-80s that genuinely showed the influence of Burroughs, other than notable exceptions in the British new Wave movement.
I'm getting slightly worried about this. I seem to be reading your featured books just before you put them up on your page. Last week it was Radio Free Albemuth, then on Saturday I went to Hay and bought my first ever K W Jeter book, called "Infernal Devices". I haven't opened it yet, but bought it after finishing Lawrence Sutin's Dick biography, where Jeter came over as one of Dick's more sane friends, giving him much support towards the end of his life. The book is more steampunk, which I don't always like, but I will give it a try. Would you like me to tell you what you are going to speak about next week, or is that too spooky?
Well, Allan, I don't know what I'll be covering next week yet LOL but clearly great minds think alike! I bought 'Infernal Devices' in hardcover when it first came out way back around 85. It's a fun, but minor Jeter, but it is real Steampunk of the proper California Dreamer school (Jeter, Blaylock, Powers) so it's a treat....
Well, that was something! Quite a crazy book, and hard to believe it was written in 1972, although easy to see why it took so long to get published. Quite strange how it's a book of two halves, with Adder a more ethereal presence in the second half. Anyway, I have a few of his other books such as Glass Hammer on the TBR pile now. Thanks for introducing me to Dr Adder, I will indeed never be the same again. Sh*tfire!
'Sh*tfire,' indeed! Yes, 'Dr Adder' clearly displays the kind of wildness that was only in writers like William S Burroughs then and it still stands up. Years and years ahead of the curve! I'm pretty disgusted that it isn't a Gollancz Masterwork, but it's probably a bit much for the politically correct types of today. Glad you enjoyed it. I like most of KW's stuff, but his Horror novels are probably his finest tranche of books -'Wolf Flow' is a great one. Good to hear from you, mate.
@@outlawbookselleroriginal Jeter wrote at least a Star Wars book The Mandalorian Armor, maybe also sequels to it. And there is a Finnish translation of Dr. Adder; Tohtori Kyy, published by Jalava, 1991. Soft cover. The translation has a cover art of its own, I guess you can find it with web search.
More " twisted " than ' Noir ' ? I have ' The Glass Hammer ' where does it fit in ? . Jeters ' Night Man ' is ok . For me liking an author sometimes.. involves getting the " right book, at the right time , in the right mood . And you are hooked forever. Ps JGB " Crash " was the inspiration for that letter...lol.
I have 'Noir' aside for when I'm in a KW mode, not read it yet. Where does 'Glass Hammer' and 'Death Arms' fit in? Well, they broaden the background that is partially hinted at in 'Adder' and contain such joys as a gun that once fired, sends a slow bullet that will always track down its target...
It's an anthology of original novellas- all crime stories set around the cocaine trade , all by Italian crime authors- the best ones, in fact - Gianrico Carofiglio, Massimo Carlotto and Giancarlo De Cataldo. Italian crime fiction has been amazing over the last 20 years, it's not all like Inspector Montalbano....
@@mario6279 I'd suggest getting hold of Gianrico Carofiglio's novel 'The Past Is A Foreign Land', Massimo Carlotto's novel 'The Goodbye Kiss' and watching the TV series or feature film of De Cataldo's 'Suburra' first.
jeter seems to be a weird writer. i remember reading 2 of his blade runner books (blade runner 2 and 3) from him and enjoying them. but his books seem to be always out of print and they go for insane prices. i wanted to buy blade runner 4 and it costs like 220 euro. and it was released in the year 2000. how is it possible that his books are somehow always not available, even newer ones?
His books are not in print as the sales of physical copies declined over time to a point when printing them was no longer financially viable for the publishers. This is why any books go out of print- sales. However, publishers are often no good at assessing what they should reprint. Jeter is a weird writer, which is why he's such a good SF writer- formulaic SF writers can be popular, but they are rarely any good by SF standards- they lack originality and an ability to present something new, essential in good SF. His 'Blade Runner' books go on sale for high values as the market is collectors coming in from the film end of things. His other books are far better. These days Jeter is writing crime novels which are published as ebooks - he also published a Star Trek novel which sold over a million copies, so he doesn't need to worry about the money.
@@outlawbookselleroriginal so they are limiting his blade runner books by design so that they can get higher prices? i guess my question is: why arent there ebook versions of his books so that people can at least buy ebooks more cheap? arent there laws regarding this? i am not a big ebook guy myself. i only buy ebooks if the physical ones are too expensive for me or if i want to read the first part in a series and see if its worth getting into the series. in my opinion there should be ebook versions for every book out there. it should be regulated by law.
@@DanielRumbacher -No, the books are out of print, which means the publishers don't have any stock left, they've sold out. The high prices you are seeing are people selling secondhand copies. As for ebooks, it depends on if the publisher think there is a market for the books, same as print editions. If they don't think there is, they won't proudce e-versions. It's impractical for every book published to become an ebook, since literally millions of titles are published worldwide every year.
How much would I pay for what book? I tend not to rewatch videos posted a long time back and I don't script these clips and keep the scripts. Be clear.
There is an e-book. My life is exactly the same. _Dr. Adder_ is mediocre across the board. Its only strength is its unflinching attitude; however, it fails to deliver any world-changing content. *I do strongly recommend it* because it is cyberpunk in its rawest form. There's no feel-good bullshit; there's no shock to cover bad writing. There's just a shit world full of shit people doing shit things. As for learning from literature, there is one very important lesson about the time it was written in: At that time a young teenage girl could consent to be essentially lobotomized and spend her life as a semi-conscious sex doll, while at the same time believing her pimp/boyfriend has her best interest at heart. We've since learned otherwise. Other than that, there's a lot of noise to hide the signal. Visiting a strange thing for no reason, kids unhinged for no reason, the usual cyber-dystopian bullshit. In that regard, _Adder_ predating serious computing may have laid a foundation since it's cyber-dystopian before anything cyber really existed; however, that foundation is pretty obvious, just like someone claiming they wrote the joke about Mexicans building the border wall between the States & Mexico. It's fucking obvious. Get over it. It's an okay book that's tedious in parts, boring in others, and worth it just because it does communicate well that raw need that lies behind cyberpunk. But it's still just okay.
Jeter has as far as I'm aware always been keen to distance himself from Cyberpunk - in fact, his coining of the term 'Steampunk' was a satirical jibe at the increasing tendency to try and label everything with the punk suffix. The reason why people -including me - nod to Cyberpunk re 'Dr Adder' is because of its Punk content - the raw attitude, abrasiveness and uncaring atmosphere. You say there's no world-changing motif in the story- no final concenptual breakthrough- but the point of Adder is that the people are doing shit things for no reason because of the manner in which their lives and consciousness has been altered by the tech and politics: this is Jeter's central message to me - 'if this goes on,'- he's showing the effects after the causes and depicts a spiral descent that is going ever downward. Your point re the prostitute/pimp 'learned otherwise' doesn't hold water- young women worldwide are still falling for this oldest scam in the book - if they weren't, there would not be the truly appalling situation of countless young girls strung out, abused and on street corners looking for tricks. Literature has not affected this and for a writer to avoid writing about a situation like this now-because it still exists- is head in the sand. Jeter is a moralist at the end of the day. Clearly, we disagree about the merits of this book and Jeter. The fact, however, that he prompts such a strong reaction, coupled with his critical cachet and support of PKD underlines his importance. He also fulfills one of the cardinal aspects of great SF- he awakens the reader, shakes her up and gives you food for thought rather than escapism. Not pleasant, I agree, but bracing and necessary.
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I had no idea that it took more than a decade to get Dr. Adder into print - my copy is from 1988, and I naively assumed that it had been written a few years before that. Jeter is amazing. I can also recommend John Shirley as another great writer who's under-appreciated.
Yes, Shirley is great, something coming up here soon about his work- we've interacted a bit at a distance, he supplied a quote for the cover of one of my books and once sent me a copy of his then newest novel, great guy.
ruclips.net/video/0tRC2pz5fKQ/видео.html - link to my Morrigan video for anyone interested in more Jeter, R A Lafferty, Keith Roberts, Misha, James Blaylock and more...
Great video! I bought "Dr Adder" years and years ago, but so far I did not yet read it, so this is a strong reminder.
By the way: At the time I bought the "Dr Adder" paperback, I also bought another book written by K.W. Jeter: "Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human". And yes, it is also a book that I have not read yet. This one seems to be a sequel to the Ridley Scott movie and not to "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep". My copy was published as a PB by Orion in the UK, using the Blade Runner Trademark under license from the Film company (The Blade Runner Partnership) and is copyrighted by the Philip K. Dick Trust. Which in itself is an interesting publication / ownership structure, I guess. The UK hardcover edition was published by Millenium in 1995. I have no idea whether there is a US original edition.
It seems to me that this novel does not play any role in the movie canon of "Blade Runner", the short movies in between and "Blade Runner 2049".
Therefore, my question: Do you happen to own and/or have read "Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human" by K.W. Jeter or did you hear anything about it?
Keep up the good work!
Greetings from Hamburg
Yes, I read 'Bladerunner 2' when it was first published. It's interesting, refers to both the film and the original novel - eveything JW does is interesting- but you have to remember these things are done for commercial reasons, not aesthetic ones. I don't consider it 'canonical' as such as the canon I'm interested in is PKD's novels. More interesting is Alan E Nourse's novel 'The Bladerunner' and William S Burroughs screen treatment of the same, both of which precede the film 'Blade Runner'- my first Cardiff bookshopping video, in which I buy and Allen E Nourse book, covers this. Great to hear from someone in Hamburg!
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I've always avoided the Bladerunner books, as to me they are 'product'. Licensed stuff is often an unappealing mix of work for hire and helping companies putting stakes in possibly otherwise shaky IP rights. That said, a good writer can do something with them, I loved the Games Workshop Dark Future Books written by Jack Yeovil (Kim Newman) as they seemed to be perfect pulp, taking what was a Cars Wars/Mad Max rip-off into weirder and more interesting territory.
I love the unapologetic "in your face" presentation. I enjoyed the 70s. From the perspective of 2024 I adore them. Wonderful book.
I'd go back to the 70s tomorrow....
@@outlawbookselleroriginal If only....
OB, just have to say, love the old analog synth music in the intro! Nice touch. I've owned many ARP, Moog and Oberheim analog synths back in the day, as I needed them to survive, being a full time minstrel at the time. You flirt with anarchy in so many ways, yet present a picture of refined intellectualism and staid Brit gentry despite my suspicion you were an incorrigible bohemian at some point in the back alleys of Soho in the 70's/80's. Can't imagine I'm too far off... :) Cheers. Oh, great take on Jeter!
Still an incorrigible Bohemian really. Used to own Korg and Moog axes myself....
Just to say as 'Dr Adder' is uncommon, there is an amazon kindle ebook if this is an option for some of you.
Great book ,read it 3 times, together with Glass Hammer and Farewell Horizontal also by Jeter. I remember buying these books at Forbidden Planet London early 90's. I've got a Signet paperback American edition same cover as your hardcover.
Yep, I recall buying my hardcover first of 'Farewell Horizontal' when it was new from a specialist too, happy days!
I'm working my way through all the videos on your channel, so many great books to buy and i've ordered quite a few in the last few days, thanks Stephen!
Pleasure. Anyone who says 'I'm working my way through the backlist' makes my day, I can tell you. Let me know how you get on with the various titles you buy as you read 'em.
I came across a song on RUclips called Dr Adder by Cassandra Complex. They credit it to the novel on their website, along with a song based on a Thomas S. Disch book 'Why?' Nice to know the cult of Dr Adder has other devotees.
"I’m having a party with two junkie wh*res
They smile at me sweetly, thy say give me some more
So I tie them together and they start to get mad
Please come back Dr. Adder, we need you real bad
Give me what I want, give me what I need
Give me everything, I’m going to make you bleed"
Cripes!
I have the ebook. Just started this by your recommendation.I has been sitting there for many years. Just picked up a Bluejay in VG condition
Nice! I
In the eighties I found a magazine called Amputee Times in the pr0n section of a magazine shop. Very...interesting. A few years later I bought a copy of Dr. Adder because I'd read other books by Jeter. I've forgotten the plots of those other books but Adder blew my mind. When I was in college I had a "alternative reading list" I shared with others, which included: Dr. Adder, Bataille's Story of the Eye, Jim Thompson's Killer Inside me and Harry Crews Feast of Snakes. If someone read all four, I knew they were cool. Interesting to see Cronenberg's new movie has Adder-eque themes. It's all coming together.
I read all of those, as you'd expect...Adder is Cronenbergian, yes.
I have a smaller bluejay hardcover of this! It's so hard to find K W Jeter in the wild, I've only read this, Noir, and Farewell Horizontal.
I think he's hugely underrated and his absence from reprint schedules only underlines the neglect of truly radical SF there is these days- everyone interested in SF and Horror as literary forms should engage with KW, I feel. Keep searching...
@@outlawbookselleroriginal well-said, and thank you
I have already ordered a copy. Thank you! Sounds extraordinary.
Good for you - it's pretty intense. The first chapter is pretty disorienting, but stick with it and remember my reading as a guide to Limmit's situation at the start of the novel. Hope you enjoy it- it's an experience!
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I am very much looking forward to it. Really appreciate you bringing it to my attention.
It arrived in the post today. It’s the Grafton, Panther Science Fiction from 1987 edition. Formerly belonged to the Edinburgh University Science Fiction and Fantasy Society.
@@markanthonypearce1204 - Let us all know how you get on with it here!
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I will do. I have a good feeling I will enjoy it a great deal.
I'll be on the lookout for this, however, I may have seen a copy recently at a local thriftstore. I'll have to pop in later today for a look!
You MUST buy it if you see it, as it can always be sold on, though I'd never part with either of my copies- It's tough, original and a total landmark.
Such a wild read. Cant wait to watch this when I get home. Also makes me think Alexa is spying on me, as I just edited my top 10 cyberpunk novels vid (less than an hour ago) in Final Cut Pro and had Dr. Adder in my honorable mentions.
Hopefully you will get home at some point.
This book is pure imagination fuel. I saw myself in Limit, in the sewer girl, Dr.Adder, the rooftop snipers and the father with his rebellious son.
I was especially fascinated by the C.I.A metal arm, Dr.Adders sheer coolness and the fact that he could literally see the truth about people and my personal favourite the sensless girl whose brain learned to transceive e.m waves all while being an existential mindf*ck.
I 100% agree, for Dr Adder alone KW is a more important writer than Powers and Blaylock, but perhaps less market awareness. I bought my copy of the limited edition from KW when he lived in Bath.
One thing I've wondered about is whether KW was familiar with Ballard's pieces that became The Atrocity Exhibition, it seems to me that there is some correlation between that and Doctor Adder in an indirect way.
I'm sure he must have been a Ballardian. I like Powers and Blaylock, but to me Jeter is far superior, but as you say, not so commercial- I think 'Dr Adder' and 'Wolf Flow' are both magnificent and lots of his other stuff works for me too..
Sounds awesome. I’ll definitely put it on my want list.
It is really something, especially when you think it was written around 1972. One of the few SF novels pre-80s that genuinely showed the influence of Burroughs, other than notable exceptions in the British new Wave movement.
I'm getting slightly worried about this. I seem to be reading your featured books just before you put them up on your page. Last week it was Radio Free Albemuth, then on Saturday I went to Hay and bought my first ever K W Jeter book, called "Infernal Devices". I haven't opened it yet, but bought it after finishing Lawrence Sutin's Dick biography, where Jeter came over as one of Dick's more sane friends, giving him much support towards the end of his life. The book is more steampunk, which I don't always like, but I will give it a try. Would you like me to tell you what you are going to speak about next week, or is that too spooky?
Well, Allan, I don't know what I'll be covering next week yet LOL but clearly great minds think alike! I bought 'Infernal Devices' in hardcover when it first came out way back around 85. It's a fun, but minor Jeter, but it is real Steampunk of the proper California Dreamer school (Jeter, Blaylock, Powers) so it's a treat....
Well, that was something! Quite a crazy book, and hard to believe it was written in 1972, although easy to see why it took so long to get published. Quite strange how it's a book of two halves, with Adder a more ethereal presence in the second half. Anyway, I have a few of his other books such as Glass Hammer on the TBR pile now. Thanks for introducing me to Dr Adder, I will indeed never be the same again. Sh*tfire!
'Sh*tfire,' indeed! Yes, 'Dr Adder' clearly displays the kind of wildness that was only in writers like William S Burroughs then and it still stands up. Years and years ahead of the curve! I'm pretty disgusted that it isn't a Gollancz Masterwork, but it's probably a bit much for the politically correct types of today. Glad you enjoyed it. I like most of KW's stuff, but his Horror novels are probably his finest tranche of books -'Wolf Flow' is a great one. Good to hear from you, mate.
There is a German translation available. (Edition Phantasia, paperback, 2006).
The same author later wrote Star Wars novels, did he?
He did a couple of Star Trek books I think, don't think he did Star Wars novels.
@@outlawbookselleroriginal Jeter wrote at least a Star Wars book The Mandalorian Armor, maybe also sequels to it. And there is a Finnish translation of Dr. Adder; Tohtori Kyy, published by Jalava, 1991. Soft cover. The translation has a cover art of its own, I guess you can find it with web search.
@@eksobit -His 'Star Wars' work was of course only done for money, artistically it's irrelevant to his own true oeuvre.
More " twisted " than ' Noir ' ? I have ' The Glass Hammer ' where does it fit in ? . Jeters ' Night Man ' is ok . For me liking an author sometimes.. involves getting the " right book, at the right time , in the right mood . And you are hooked forever. Ps JGB " Crash " was the inspiration for that letter...lol.
I have 'Noir' aside for when I'm in a KW mode, not read it yet. Where does 'Glass Hammer' and 'Death Arms' fit in? Well, they broaden the background that is partially hinted at in 'Adder' and contain such joys as a gun that once fired, sends a slow bullet that will always track down its target...
I see a book back there called cocaine? What’s that about
It's an anthology of original novellas- all crime stories set around the cocaine trade , all by Italian crime authors- the best ones, in fact - Gianrico Carofiglio, Massimo Carlotto and Giancarlo De Cataldo. Italian crime fiction has been amazing over the last 20 years, it's not all like Inspector Montalbano....
@@outlawbookselleroriginal dang! I feel like I need to pick that up now 🕵️
@@mario6279 I'd suggest getting hold of Gianrico Carofiglio's novel 'The Past Is A Foreign Land', Massimo Carlotto's novel 'The Goodbye Kiss' and watching the TV series or feature film of De Cataldo's 'Suburra' first.
@@outlawbookselleroriginal Dude i appreciate your replies so much 🙏 thank you for those suggestions!!!
jeter seems to be a weird writer. i remember reading 2 of his blade runner books (blade runner 2 and 3) from him and enjoying them.
but his books seem to be always out of print and they go for insane prices. i wanted to buy blade runner 4 and it costs like 220 euro. and it was released in the year 2000. how is it possible that his books are somehow always not available, even newer ones?
His books are not in print as the sales of physical copies declined over time to a point when printing them was no longer financially viable for the publishers. This is why any books go out of print- sales. However, publishers are often no good at assessing what they should reprint.
Jeter is a weird writer, which is why he's such a good SF writer- formulaic SF writers can be popular, but they are rarely any good by SF standards- they lack originality and an ability to present something new, essential in good SF. His 'Blade Runner' books go on sale for high values as the market is collectors coming in from the film end of things. His other books are far better.
These days Jeter is writing crime novels which are published as ebooks - he also published a Star Trek novel which sold over a million copies, so he doesn't need to worry about the money.
@@outlawbookselleroriginal so they are limiting his blade runner books by design so that they can get higher prices?
i guess my question is: why arent there ebook versions of his books so that people can at least buy ebooks more cheap? arent there laws regarding this?
i am not a big ebook guy myself. i only buy ebooks if the physical ones are too expensive for me or if i want to read the first part in a series and see if its worth getting into the series.
in my opinion there should be ebook versions for every book out there. it should be regulated by law.
@@DanielRumbacher -No, the books are out of print, which means the publishers don't have any stock left, they've sold out. The high prices you are seeing are people selling secondhand copies. As for ebooks, it depends on if the publisher think there is a market for the books, same as print editions. If they don't think there is, they won't proudce e-versions. It's impractical for every book published to become an ebook, since literally millions of titles are published worldwide every year.
How much would you pay for such a book?
How much would I pay for what book? I tend not to rewatch videos posted a long time back and I don't script these clips and keep the scripts. Be clear.
@@outlawbookselleroriginal what is going rate for such a book
There is an e-book. My life is exactly the same.
_Dr. Adder_ is mediocre across the board. Its only strength is its unflinching attitude; however, it fails to deliver any world-changing content. *I do strongly recommend it* because it is cyberpunk in its rawest form. There's no feel-good bullshit; there's no shock to cover bad writing. There's just a shit world full of shit people doing shit things.
As for learning from literature, there is one very important lesson about the time it was written in: At that time a young teenage girl could consent to be essentially lobotomized and spend her life as a semi-conscious sex doll, while at the same time believing her pimp/boyfriend has her best interest at heart. We've since learned otherwise.
Other than that, there's a lot of noise to hide the signal. Visiting a strange thing for no reason, kids unhinged for no reason, the usual cyber-dystopian bullshit. In that regard, _Adder_ predating serious computing may have laid a foundation since it's cyber-dystopian before anything cyber really existed; however, that foundation is pretty obvious, just like someone claiming they wrote the joke about Mexicans building the border wall between the States & Mexico. It's fucking obvious. Get over it.
It's an okay book that's tedious in parts, boring in others, and worth it just because it does communicate well that raw need that lies behind cyberpunk. But it's still just okay.
Jeter has as far as I'm aware always been keen to distance himself from Cyberpunk - in fact, his coining of the term 'Steampunk' was a satirical jibe at the increasing tendency to try and label everything with the punk suffix. The reason why people -including me - nod to Cyberpunk re 'Dr Adder' is because of its Punk content - the raw attitude, abrasiveness and uncaring atmosphere.
You say there's no world-changing motif in the story- no final concenptual breakthrough- but the point of Adder is that the people are doing shit things for no reason because of the manner in which their lives and consciousness has been altered by the tech and politics: this is Jeter's central message to me - 'if this goes on,'- he's showing the effects after the causes and depicts a spiral descent that is going ever downward.
Your point re the prostitute/pimp 'learned otherwise' doesn't hold water- young women worldwide are still falling for this oldest scam in the book - if they weren't, there would not be the truly appalling situation of countless young girls strung out, abused and on street corners looking for tricks. Literature has not affected this and for a writer to avoid writing about a situation like this now-because it still exists- is head in the sand. Jeter is a moralist at the end of the day.
Clearly, we disagree about the merits of this book and Jeter. The fact, however, that he prompts such a strong reaction, coupled with his critical cachet and support of PKD underlines his importance. He also fulfills one of the cardinal aspects of great SF- he awakens the reader, shakes her up and gives you food for thought rather than escapism. Not pleasant, I agree, but bracing and necessary.