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@@cameraconspiracies if you want to gamble. See if your power supply can handle your old graphics card too. And use it for monitor out leaving your new one to be dedicated to heavy lifting
The reason your CPU usage is higher after the upgrade is because the GPU is no longer a bottleneck. Essentially your CPU and GPU are passing operations back and forth - since your old GPU was maxxed out, it was taking its time to finish it's operations and the CPU was just sitting around waiting for the GPU to finish. Now that your GPU can keep up, they're both passing things back and forth without needing to wait for each other. Since neither one is close to 100% utilization, it just means that you have the capacity now to do more complex things until that overwhelms either the CPU or GPU (which you'll be able to tell based on which one is higher utilization).
Its not how it works with video editing The CPU should be idling. If you have good hardware decoder and Nvidia GPU (for VFX), the CPU should barely have anything to do. I have a 13900HX in my laptop and thanks to quicksync (hardware encoder/decoder), the CPU stay at like 1.5ghz while playing back high quality 6K 10bit 4:2:2 files.
@@JetBen555Exactly. Although cpu utilization may still be higher from the upgrade. But also maybe because there’s less hardware acceleration but he finally has enough VRAM
@@cameraconspiracies Good, was already sending you to hell 😂. Just activate it on your BIOS : ABOVE 4G DECODING + Resizable BAR, should cut your render times in Half, and will also make sure you can use all your VRam at once instead of using chunks of it each time, your GPU usage will probably go up but this will make sure your pc can handle heavier stuff if needed.
I initially bought my 7900XTX for gaming. It's a beast for that, but I'm shifting its role to video production, specifically running DaVinci Resolve. Your CPU is working harder now because your GPU is able to ask for more. Previously, your 2070 didn't ask for the 3600X to do very much because it was too busy trying to process the little bit the 3600X was sending. As you've observed, the 7900XTX can process far more than the 3600X can send. Remember, 50% utilization of your CPU probably means that every core is engaged and you have very little in reserve. Your 7900XTX can handle more, but once you reach 50% CPU and ask for more, the utilization rate will climb fast. As I recommended in an early video comment, you should now upgrade your CPU to a 5900XT, 16 cores rather than your current six, and faster ones to boot.
@@rangersmith4652 Yep, also because AMD GPU's use OpenCL, vs Nvidia, which use CUDA. OpenCL allows for CPU fallback, so it will hit the CPU when necessary.
Professional programmer and gamer/hardware nerd here. You did well, Brother. As some have mentioned, the cpu feeding the gpu is correct. It's always a balance. I'll reiterate another comment as well, you can upgrade the cpu to more cores and probably more importantly, faster cores to feed the gpu as a next step if you find the need in the future. You did especially well getting that 1kw power supply which future proofs you for a long time. Couple key points. VRAM (video ram) on the GPU is probably one of the more impactful stats you are looking for in the future, up to limit of course. You went from 8 to 24, which is huge. I doubt we'll be seeing more on mid tier consumer cards any time soon. You can stay a couple of more release cycles behind on CPU than you can on GPU for the best bang for your buck. SSD size is largely the only relevant stat going forward, some are faster, but it'd be hard to notice the difference because they are all so fast now. They aren't going to wear out like hard drives did as much in the past, so don't worry. Obviously, you need a backup strategy, but thats a separate issue. I would look into building yourself a NAS, it can be done relatively cheap and it'll give you expandable redundant storage for your video files. It'd be a great project for you, and good content for your channel, I'm sure a great many of your viewers would benefit. If you need advice, feel free to contact me.
My buddy recently figured out NAS. Bit of a learning curve getting it all going, but now he's stacking 24TB drives and blessing us with Plex etc. I want to build one now using my old Phanteks Enthoo giant azz case.
@@frankinblackpool That is an option, but those tend to be overpriced and vendor locked. The hardware you get is a joke compared to just old dell or whatever desktops you can find on facebook marketplace for a faction of the cost. I built mine initially from my old dell optiplex computer and I've just upgraded it over the years with older hardware. Most expensive parts are the drives and you'd likely need to buy those anyway with a prebuilt.
@@m.corey.thompson It can be a cost effective option to have a NAS, in the long run. They use less energy and as a result reduce your electricity bills. And for something like Synology, they meet my low IT skills.
glad to hear the upgrade went well, and even though i am biased slightly i think you made the right choices here with the upgrade path. Also really pleased that the Task Manager tip helped you to pinpoint the weak points. great job!
I think the 24gb RAM is huge. The 8GB RAM was probably causing the 2070 GPU usage to be maxed out and it seems like the raw power of the GPU is nowhere near being tasked within Resolve. Also, I'm definitely not an expert, but I think CUDA and Open CL are just like the language of the GPU that developers have to use to code their programs to leverage the GPU (and Apple has Metal). So the fact that you can't tick the CUDA box doesn't mean that you're losing out necessarily as long as the developers at DaVinci are putting in the effort to maximize OpenCl and Metal, etc.
Yeah, that was my guess also. You can literally see the VRAM being maxed out on all the tests he did. And ironically enough, on the RX 7900XTX the VRAM usage seems to only be around 10 gigs, so not even that far over the 8 gigs of the rtx 2070. But that's just the world of memory. It's never an issue until it's full, and then shit starts hitting the fan. If only Nvidia wasn't so stingy on VRAM. And you're pretty much right on the Open CL and Cuda side of things. Altho Cuda refers to both nvidias gpu cores as well as their software. Other than that, it's really just a different language as you said.
For my 24GB 3090 the same thing applies. Having that headroom is essential for creatives. I am not super creative I just like high end stuff so I got a used one which saved money and time as its a really nice card and I undervolted it successfully at 900mV at 1920MHz which is all I need for 4k 144hz gaming. Gotta check DaVinci as I heard so much great things about it!
I've been using the same 7900 XTX for over a year to edit my videos in DaVinci Resolve. I haven't been happier with any other GPU so far. The amount of VRAM is amazing. Great choice!
Good on you for actually doing research, looking for the best tool for your specific needs and saving money in the mean time. Congratulations on the PC upgrade! Now we need a *Gaming Conspiracies* to use 100% of that GPU.
GPU's 24GB VRAM really helps, especially on 6k and up. I'm glad you got a good setup, now you only need to upgrade the CPU and possibly SSD/nvme drive.
@@JB-jr3bm what do you mean new car,?? the. Mac mini M4 5 weeks old./ got released 1month + 1week ago . and its faster than then 7900, this guy above just feeds of new stuff he sees, like idk man, weird to even talk about his M4 like that, as its BRAND NEW, unless there's a gramma error and not the M4
There are some things Nvidia is downright better for because of the CUDA cores and how software is designed specifically to take advantage of them but if a software isn't designed specifically for Nvidia, AMD absolutely destroys Nvidia in price per performance and does not get the credit at all. I just built a new PC with a 9800X3D and a 7900XT (XTX was all sold out D:) and it handles absolutely anything without breaking a sweat. If you do plan on upgrading, I'd probably go with something like a 5800X or 5900X if you want to stick with AM4. The X3D Chips are designed specifically for gaming and fall behind in a lot of productivity tasks.
12th Gen i7 from Intel is a true diamond in the rough. One of their best CPU's they've ever made. I was a long time AMD user. No more. I love my 12700KF i7. Has 12 cores, costs around 177 usd right now, which is the lowest price ever. I got mine for 255 a year and a half ago? Replaced an AMD 3700x. Couldn't be happier.
@@Riaining7So, you bought the wrong CPU. A KF version with no internal GPU and no Quicksync, which is the best acellerator for video playback on Windows.
Nvidia has Cuda cores, AMD has their own equivalent. The only real upside to CUDA, is the vastly better support in various software. A lot more software support CUDA, than AMD GPU's equivalent.
@@akyhne I chose to get the KF because I didn''t want the APU technology, that's what I figured my GPU would do, thought I'd be saving overhead and getting a better product. I wasn't aware I was crippling my Windows video playback, could you perhaps elaborate?
@Riaining7 The GPU features of the Intel processors, are the best for any kind of decoding of video. It also supports more formats, than a Nvidia or AMD GPU. If you had chosen a CPU in the form of an APU, the CPU would do playback and some other tasks natively (hardware acelleration), and your discrete GPU would do everything else. In other words, because you saved maybe $50 on a KS, you have significantly halted your system.
CPU's with hyperthreading, like your 6 core 12 thread 3600X, will rarely report 100% usage, because half of the cores are fake. It also only shows the total, but many applications don't scale well over multiple cores so you can be bottlenecked by the CPU on 1 core and windows will still show 10% cpu load. Since it's showing peaks to 50% CPU load, you're definitely CPU limited, and upgrading the CPU will result in a noticeable improvement. Since your system is AM4 and we're at AM5 now, you need to replace the motherboard, cpu AND RAM. I'd recommend a 9600X - 9950X. Don't get the 3D chips, they'll perform worse and are more expensive. If you want to do a cheap upgrade, buy a 5950X and put it in your existing system. It should be compatible with your motherboard, and it is also MUCH faster than a 3600X.
I was gonna comment that too. It's not that helpful to look at the full cpu utalization in the taskmanager on high core count cpus. It makes more sense to look at the usage of the individual cores. Altho the peaking at 50% supposidly showing a bottleneck is nonsense. For really the same reasons you just explained one sentence prior. You can see the cpu usage scale to over 60% at 7:52 in the video, so 50% couldn't possibly indicate a bottleneck just yet. Also as long as the software can make usage of multithreading, which most modern professional programs do, then the cpu usage will scale normally between physical cores and threads. The 5950x is a fantastic upgrade suggestion for the platform. I'm actually on the same CPU as casey, and i'm also considering getting the 5950x instead of upgrading to AM5. Considering that it's still fairly expensive in comparison i don't wanna do that just yet.
Yes, you need to look at all cores, but what you say is completely wrong about the cores being fake and therefore 50% being the real 100%. Otherwise the performance wouldn't decrease if you disable SMT in the BIOS. It's simply a matter of multicore support for the software.
@@jayzn1931 I didn't write 50% is the real 100%. I can't be wrong about things that I didn't write. I wrote that the software peaking at 50% usage indicates a CPU bottleneck. I stand by my comment that it is 100% a CPU bottleneck and upgrading to a faster chip (like the 5950X) will result in noticeable performance improvement.
@ It sounds like you just did that again. It might be possible sometimes that a CPU utilization below 90% still indicates a CPU bottleneck, but it is very unlikely. Only when Casey shows us the core utilizations and we can see for example 4 cores at 90-100% we can be sure about that. What you say can‘t be proven and therefore doesn’t make sense to me. Usually a bottleneck sits somewhere else and if the footage runs smoothly why should there be a bottleneck, it can’t run faster…
I bought a new graphics card for a new computer in December. Asus GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER TUF GAMING OC 12G (220 W) - I am quite satisfied. Quiet, cool. Now Rendering my videos in 4K (100Mbit/s with effects) takes only 3 min. (3 min. - 4 min.) - 10x increase in rendering speed! On the my previous graphics card it took me about 40 min. (40 min. - 60 min.) This is Asus GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER TUF GAMING OC 4096MB - however, this old card is very decent, also quiet and cool.
Hey good for you. If you need USB C look into PCI E usb expansion cards you can plug in your motherboard in the shorter slots so you can have it in your present computer.
@@cameraconspiraciesyeh, just get a low profile/small card for the usb-c. Won't worry your GPU. And besides, if it's only at 11%, it's not sweating anyway
@@cameraconspiracies Make sure you get 3.2 gen 2x2. Better yet if your mobo has thunderbolt connecter get a thunderbolt card. Edit: Btw think about going m.2 enclosure instead of buying external ssds. Its cheaper and your write life will last a hell of alot longer, not to mention less chance of failures unlike the samsung ssds.
I am scared by all the individual drives I'm seeing in Task Manager... are those just your menagerie of SD cards etc or do you have a bunch of individual hard drives? some form of NAS w/ a basic RAID array would be ideal to protect your archives of data... and then making backups of that and or at least the stuff you would hate to lose... as someone who doesn't own a single "real" camera and makes a living doing IT stuffs... yet has watched most of your videos for many years because I just enjoy your work... I find it delightful that there is this sudden twist of I.T. problems and solutions... glad you've decided to dive into this and do it all yourself, it gets addictive!
Yeah... IDK why, but AMD GPUs seem to work soooo much better for Davinci Resolve Studio than Nvidia GPUs. I found this out by accident, when a few years back I was forced to buy an AMD GPU for the video editing studio I was setting up for my dad's company, because prices were insane for Nvidia. I was absolutely blown away at the difference, and I haven't purchased an Nvidia GPU or an Intel CPU since!
Glad to see that your needs have been met by the upgrades. If you ever need to upgrade your cpu it will be so cheap by then. Time to invest in some good bulk storage. Side note I can’t believe you were using your video card usb -c as a data port. Of all the pc content I’ve watched I never knew that was a possibility and thought it was only for video out for VR which is why it’s missing from almost all modern cards
Putting out a video with this title the DAY Nvidia launched the 5000 series is insane haha. The 16GB 5070Ti is not much more than a 7900XTX and would probably offer much better performance There are times the 24GB will give advantages but the Tensor and AI cores on Nvidia cards are used by stacks of different effects & tools in Resolve and they're adding new Neural FX and AI tools all the time. 8GB is definitely not enough for heavy FX in Resolve which is why the 2070 shat bricks.
When a GPU accelerates video decoding etc properly it wont show as high GPU utilisation. You can see more detail on what's going on your graphics card if you open the GPU details in task manager.
If you get the Ryzen 7 5700X3D in the future you will complete a very good pc upgrade that will be fine for some years to come. You can always add more RAM if you need it in the future and the SSDs will probably need to be changed in the future but for the most part you are good to go! Good job!
can't really see the numbers at 0:54 unless my video resolution is above 1080p so could you use larger text in the future? I love numbers and statistics.
@@cameraconspiracies Sorry, I was trolling. Thank you for your time. I heard you saying it's gone but I still tempted to troll. Happy New Upgrade to you!
Glad you like your upgrade now you can make more content easier and with less headaches but if you still wish to upgrade your CPU mostly because of you like to edit videos the 5700 X3D is nice but you might want to go with your board try the 5800x3D or maybe the 5900X or the 5900 XT 12 core 24 thread or maybe the 5950XT 16 core 32 thread that's what I have Again congratulations on your upgrade
I'm super happy you decided to upgrade instead of biting the apple or jumping into midlife AM5. Hold strong brother. You'll be happy in a few years when you get to jump onto AM6.
Well done, if you want more fast USB ports, there are PCIe add-in cards that you can get for that. I bet there are still some PCIe ports accessable on the mainboard even with that GPU installed.
The Nvidia GPU showed utilization in the "3D" section, while the Decode section interestingly was on 0%. For the AMD, the Decode section is not selected in Task manager, so it would be interesting if this time around that is used! But no major GPUs have HW acceleration for 4:2:2 H.265 content, so this is probably the reason the "3D" power was used. It's a bit weird though seeing so much better performance on the 7900XTX, as it is not like it's 4x+ the power of a 2070, so I wonder what exactly is causing the difference here. The bigger VRAM is gonna come into play of course. Also for the CPU, it would make sense to look at the individual cores, you can do that in Task Manager by right cliking on the graphic and changing it to logical processors. I was surprised anyway why you ordered an X3D CPU, had never heard they are good for video editing! For games they are great, sure, but they are usually slower than their non-X3D counterparts in producitivity apps, while being more expensive! Good to hear anwyway it's going a lot smoother now! I also am thinking about a GPU upgrade and the just announced 5070 only has 12GB still, so I going with a 7800XT is very interesting to me, but just like you, I would have to upgrade my power supply, which makes the change even more expensive, which I don't like. But I am only gaming on it atm so I am just gonna wait until prices get better. Oh and also, check your SSD with tools like CrystalDiskInfo or similar. You can actually predict the life span in % and look at individual factors whether it will die soon or not. Also, if an SSD has reached its total bytes written, it can still read so you can still access your files.
I'd be curious to see your other test results with nvidia cards. Id be happy to build and properly integrate one for you, it would aave you tons of time exporting and soing sinple things, ita kind of what i do. You woudl of course just need to buy the components.
Upgrading to a 5900xt would result in a computer that would probably last you another 8ish years. I’m upgrading to a 5700x3d because I’m a gamer and probably an Rtx 5070ti.
40 series Nvidia GPU are better for gaming and DLSS if you're trying to max out your settings but no worries if not gaming. SSD cards last about 10 years and normally have a rewrite warranty of 12x the original capacity but a external NAS that is set to move files if a drive blows is the second safest next to a cloud. Was only wondering if you replaced the cable for the PSU or used the old ones. PSU cables tend to be brand specific or they recommend to use the cables included. & 50 series GPU gets announced today at 6:30pm but that is a steep $upgrade.
The 40 series was a no go for me because they cheaped out on the display port of all things. They’re all stuck with old 1.4 from the 2010s so they won’t perform up to spec with my ultrawide 2.1 ports display. Even the 4090 got hobbled this way, to force the people who spent +1k to upgrade to this new gen being announced today with modern 2.1 display ports.
@@RiderOfKarma Display port through usb-c is the alternative if its supported and a person doesn't want to upgrade to 50 series. 50 series gpu still would like gen 5 pcie lane upgrade although its backwards compatible so lots of money spent to have the best. I have the Godlike MB so no problems with connections for me using usb c display using a qd oled. the new QD oled with 600hz $1k plus monitors announced during Ces this week will need those upgraded ports most likely. Good luck with 50 series and I wont buy one until my 4090 pays for itself.
@@Zachari94 Just saying out of all my sources of income photography & pc building is a hobby. Sure I can sell the 4090 & upgrade but no point of doing that unless I can find a reason that I need to render things more quickly. I typically do most things for fun but to add to the confusion I use a 4070 super for my hobbies. 4090 is for running Valorant at 480hz😂
So so good! I recently upgraded my hackintosh from a 6600 XT to 6900 XT. Did a similar video! My Seasonic PSU has a silent mode... Wish I had done it years ago... It's so heavenly quiet now.
Great video. Intriguing, captivating. I was on the edge of my seat. Well, just sitting on the couch. 🤔 However, this is exactly the video I was looking for. You finally provided the answer - YES, I can use an AMD GPU, rather than spending so much on the green goblin. 😂 Most videos about GPUs are about gaming or are totally telling me I NEED to use Nvidia for the Cuda cores. Hogwash! Thanks for your work on this.
That's impressive performance! I'm putting together a new system this actual minute, and I decided to go with the RTX4080 Super instead of the 7900XTX... Kind of doubting the wisdom of my purchase right now. Lol.. But there were some areas where the 7900XTX fell down a little bit, I just can't remember what the hell they were. C70 image looked great in this one BTW. Until you added film look creator at least. Don't do that. Haha
I would guess that the upgrade of the VRAM on your GPU would make a big difference when it comes to video editing IMO. The upgraded computer looks to be pretty sweet, at least until all the AI programs start sucking the juice out of it, nice job 👍👍😎
My desktop has seen a number of upgrades over the years to keep it limping on, but, I think it’s at the end of the upgrade road now. The motherboard is from 2008 and the cpu is a Xeon x5670 - to give some idea of its age.
if you plan on editing 4k-6k footage you're better off building a newer gen pc. doesn't have to be latest, but definitely at least last two gens before. because the speed of storage drives now nearly triple the speed of your xeon platform plus RAM is better with DDR5 now those play alot on higher res clips/
@ Yeap, absolutely. The Xeon x5670 wasn’t the first processor I started with on this motherboard either, that was a ‘strategic’ planned upgrade to keep the PC going, but that was many years ago now, along with multiple other upgrades along the way. The performance, or rather, lack of, has only really become apparent in the past 3 months, because I’ve started doing regular video editing, and while I’m only outputting 1080p, I am now capturing in 4k, and attempting more complex stuff than I’ve done in the past. So, In recent months, I’ve been researching components for a new build. Exciting, if expensive, times!
@@TheLDunn1 yeah I hear ya, I have an 8700k with 128gb ram plus a 2080ti and my time line stutters and freezes on 4k60 HEVC clips, even ProRes and thats not too old of a pc, but just tells ya how complex 4k editing is getting now a days. Smh.
Credit where credit is due for Davinci Resolve. They do a great job of using the entire computer. The puget benchmarks(standard) on ryzen 9 9950X with 7900 XTX scores right there with i9 285k(new 14900k) with RTX 4080 and 4090. Actually, to score over 12000, the intel 285k guys are having to run the DDR5 ram at 8800mhz. For reference, a ryzen 5 9600X with 7900 XTX scores 9300 on puget standard benchmark. You've come this far, finish the build with a new ryzen 9900X.
Okay, first off, some advice. I would recommend upgrading your CPU soon. If its getting the job done, then by all means, ignore what I'm saying. But your CPU is no essentially not keeping up with your GPU. Your GPU is faster than your CPU is and thats creating, what we call a bottleneck in your system. Its a common misconception that having your GPU at 100% utilization is bad, which its not. That essentially means you're rendering to the maximum capability of your hardware. For a CPU however, since there is a constant stream of tasks to accomplish, having your CPU at 100% is really not great, because your system cannot keep up with the demands of whatever task you're trying to accomplish. It seems here that your CPU usage is still below 100%, but you could get even more performance if you were to do a minor upgrade, maybe to a Ryzen 5 5600x, it should be compatible with all your hardware and you wont need to buy a new PSU or anything, its a motherboard firmware upgrade and you swap it out and it should fix those CPU usage issues you were seeing, while still having your GPU free to do what it is doing. Side note, as an RTX 4090 user, you would not believe how many problems I've had with a(what cost me) $1600 graphics card. I've had countless errors with games that came down to buggy driver updates, my monitors do crazy shit that never happened before, like VRR not working properly, one of my display ports are at a lower bandwidth than the rest, not to mention that Nvidia decided to make a GPU that didn't conform to the latest display port standard, DP 2.1 (which the XTX does also btw), and the thing is so fucking big it comes loose in my motherboard every time I move the PC. I hope your GPU is not total garbage and all im saying is, when its time for me to upgrade, im not going with Nvidia again, thats for sure.
It's probably due to the lack of specific encode/decode accelerators on your old card that the load was so high. Your new card has those, and the workload is sent to those accelerators and the rest of the GPU is essentially doing nothing at all.
Nvidia's CUDA cores are better for GPU effects, Fusion and anything AI related like auto-subtitles and noise reduction. I would be interested in your experience with these tasks in Davinci
People are still running sata disks, as long as your SSD is keeping up you don't have to do anything. Your next major upgrade will be the motherboard, CPU and memory. You can probably still use the videocard and you can definitely use the case and power supply.
If you wanna see the REAL CPU usage, right click on the CPU graph, "logical processors" It will show every thread of the CPU, if even a single one is maxed out, that's the bottleneck. In that case, a CPU upgrade might help but not as much as changing to a newer platform(AM5)
You were experiencing vram bottlenecking before. The performance was horrible because of this. (In gaming this will often cut performance down to 25% of original performance) With sufficient vram now performance is much better, even though it seems there is less hardware acceleration on the GPU.
@Cameraconspiracies AMD just revealed a laptop chip that is over twice as fast as the desktop 4090 in certain scenarios because it can be outfitted with 128GB of RAM. When out of vram performance is horrible, however extra vram you aren’t using adds 0% performance gain
What you're observing is the old CPU now has to work more since the GPU can play at the designed speed of the clip. So the CPU has to do more work. If you see it going past 90% CPU usage, there's your bottleneck and time to upgrade the CPU
Very nice performance, that 2070 was bottlenecking your 3600X BAD. 7900XTX is a beast for raster gaming, videoediting & photoediting (too bad is super crap for 3D creative apps like Blender & Unreal Engine, could have been an incredible allrounder with it's wonderful 24GB of VRAM). PD: What's up with all the Nvidia fanboys in the comments section? they're defending Nvidia like it's their dad's company or some shit like that.
It is so unfortunate that AMD doesn't do anything to improve their 3D Rendering performance. So many people (including me) would own a 7900XT or XTX for that purpose with the VRAM
You mentioned losing your files and music if your SSD dies. Maybe you already have them backed up, but if not, back them up. An SSD is like anything else. It can fail. They may be very reliable overall, but any SSD can fail at any time. Have a backup. Actually, have two backups.
7900XTX is great value, depending on how much you paid for it. If you want similar Apple convenience with PC's upgradability/value, you could invest in a future ITX build: small, powerful, good looking. Just need to get an ITX motherboard and SFX power supply, and obviously a good case to fit everything in. Nice to see you tried and learned from working on your machine ✌🏻
I've noticed the prices on AM4 CPUs are rising. I forget what B450 mobo you have but it might not be able to handle a 5900x or 5950x. Your best options are finding a 5800x/5700x, or looking on marketplace for a 5900x. Don't get a 5700 non x.
That is an odd result for Catalyst browse. It shouldn't need a reference point since it relies on gyroscopic data from the camera. I think there is another program called gyroflow that also uses it but I haven't tried. I don't use catalyst often any more because I don't like the fact that I have to essentially quadruple my shutter speed to reduce motion blur.
On task manager there are little drop down arrows next to the word 3D, Copy, Copy1 etc. It lets you change the graph to view another type of dataset. Likely you aren't viewing the right graph in task manager.
Curious if you have given the AV1 encoder a try yet, something your old gpu didn't have. If it doesn't show in the mp4 format then try mkv which supports it along with 24bit audio
I'm confused. Your 7900XTX is superior to my Nvidia RTX 3090 card and you are getting way better results than me. Your card is using 12% max of its capabilities while my 3090 is always maxing out at 99%. This is both before and after I upgraded my CPU to a Ryzen 5950x. Am I doing something wrong? Even if I use Noise Reduction or not, my RTX 3090 is always running at 99%. My brain hurts.
I think you are under estimating AMD here too much. AMD on the 7000 series has really good media engines for all of this in resolve. It's very high performance when using AV1 for example. Most reviewers only seen to use MP4 work h.264 which AMD is weak in but all else it's great
Might be off topic but are any new cameras coming announced at this CES? Supposedly DJI Support hinted a new mysterious camera was coming in response to a comment about mirrorless camera. I am intrigued.
On the topic of missing USB-C, if your motherboard has a free PCIe slot (similar to the one you connected your graphics card), you can buy a *USB PCIe Card*. Though depending on the motherboard, doing that reduces the performance of the GPU. In that case, might as well just use a USB adapter.
Bought a new xfx 9700xtx two days ago for 740 pounds via ebay. I had an rtx 4070TI. I cannot even talk about how much improvement I am seeing. it is paired with a ryzen 7 7800x3d. No more crashes in games. I can finally play black myth wukong, indiana jones etc. 4k monitor LG c3 42 inches and I am just stunned. I am pretty sure that a 4080 super would not come close to this one. My first AMD GPU is just a killer option at this price range.
Might be need new motherboard for your new CPU in the future. But hey, no rush needed. And glad you choose AMD. they just works. Literally. No hassle. Their adrenaline software is easy to use also. And if I'm not mistaken you get a free game with your GPU purchase. Unless you got it second handed 😅
I’ve got a 4080 Super in my Windows machine but have been waiting for 7900xtx prices to drop so I can update my 6950xt in my Linux rig. I’m assuming 7900xtx will soon become hard to find if prices do drop, and I’ll be stuck buying the next generation for $1,000. Oh well.
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You shouldn't be complaining about the lack of storage space for your files. Just before Thanksgiving, I bought a 20TB Western Digital external USB 3.0 drive for $295.47 USD (including tax) via Amazon Prime.
You might want to upgrade your memory I highly suggest getting the V-color 64 gig kit 4800 MHz DDR4 the same kit that I also use But you will have to up the voltage to 1.55 volts so you can achieve the 4800 megahertz constant
Hey, if you want to upgrade AND want more longevity to your build, go for an AM5 build, people said to go for a 5000 series cpu, yes, i get it, but you're locked down without any more upgrades after that (go for a 5900xt if you still want to go ahead) However, going for AM5, you'll need to upgrade your cpu, motherboard AND ram, it really depends on your budget
He's already on AM4, and has that 5000 series upgrade path. Way cheaper. Not a huge performance difference for the work he's doing. His PC will probably work fine for another 5 years. edit: the only thing is it's a PCIE3 B450, but again, probably not worth upgrading before AM6 which will make all this pricey AM5 stuff obsolete overnight.
retired computer tech here, I would stop the fan and see if that stopped the noise. Take the case off and doing it for a few seconds hurts nothing. Go fan by fan until you find the right one. In case it ever happens again. As someone else pointed out, your GPU used to be the bottleneck and why the CPU wasn't used much. Now the CPU is the bottleneck and why it is used close to max compared to the GPU.
Still using my same pc since '09. The power supply and case are the only original parts now. That power supply is going to die someday. Corsair 750 is a tank.
The endless upgrade cycle of PCs is what makes buying an "expensive" mac every 4-6 years makes more sense to me - you get all the parts upgraded at the same time in a perfectly tuned package. No BIOS, no driver updates, no twiddling … oh sorry … forgot you didn't want mac comments ;)
USB-C: That's was Thunderbolt/USB-C Display. The only posts I have seen about it are complaining about it not working well as a USB port. A decent USB hub is great though, I connect all my USB stuff into a hub and then when I need to pull the PC it's a whole lot less cables to screw with.
I have the same GPU in my new build. I have the EVGA Gold 1000 power supply. A ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming Wi-Fi motherboard with the core-i9 14900K CPU. I should have gone with the ASUS 4070 Ti Super because the Adrenaline software for the Merc 310 crashed and is poison to OS. What sucks about Davinci is you can't use Linux Mint Cinnamon. Their "Linux" is built for CentOS or Arc, not Debian, and it's a cob job to convert Davinci to Debian so it works.
So technically speaking Nvidia is faster But golly is the company getting so anti consumer as of late. I rather spend my money on AMD and have slightly worse performance in Resolve than give another dime to Nvidia. Fantastic choice with the 7900 xtx
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OpenCL was the AMD answer to cuda programming. It took a decade to catch up
For video editing, go with the 5950X. Paired with the 7900XTX, it makes working in Resolve feel incredibly smooth.
@@clarenceoveur9497 broski. Muh man ain't made of money
@@cameraconspiracies if you want to gamble. See if your power supply can handle your old graphics card too. And use it for monitor out leaving your new one to be dedicated to heavy lifting
The reason your CPU usage is higher after the upgrade is because the GPU is no longer a bottleneck. Essentially your CPU and GPU are passing operations back and forth - since your old GPU was maxxed out, it was taking its time to finish it's operations and the CPU was just sitting around waiting for the GPU to finish. Now that your GPU can keep up, they're both passing things back and forth without needing to wait for each other. Since neither one is close to 100% utilization, it just means that you have the capacity now to do more complex things until that overwhelms either the CPU or GPU (which you'll be able to tell based on which one is higher utilization).
Thanks for the explanation :)
Its not how it works with video editing
The CPU should be idling. If you have good hardware decoder and Nvidia GPU (for VFX), the CPU should barely have anything to do.
I have a 13900HX in my laptop and thanks to quicksync (hardware encoder/decoder), the CPU stay at like 1.5ghz while playing back high quality 6K 10bit 4:2:2 files.
@@cameraconspiracies For video editing, go with the 5950X. Paired with the 7900XTX, it makes working in Resolve feel incredibly smooth.
@@JetBen555Exactly. Although cpu utilization may still be higher from the upgrade.
But also maybe because there’s less hardware acceleration but he finally has enough VRAM
@@clarenceoveur9497that’s a good recommendation fs
Naked canadian man, running in the cold, not even trying at 49 %
Yeah but his poor old CPU!
Turn on Resizable-Bar and you will have even more performance, you are welcome!
My motherboard doesn't support it, so thanks for nothing lol.
Actually that was a lie, it shouldn't support it but it DOES lol. So thanks for everything :)
@@cameraconspiracies Good, was already sending you to hell 😂.
Just activate it on your BIOS : ABOVE 4G DECODING + Resizable BAR, should cut your render times in Half, and will also make sure you can use all your VRam at once instead of using chunks of it each time, your GPU usage will probably go up but this will make sure your pc can handle heavier stuff if needed.
Make sure to enable SAM in the Adrenaline software. @cameraconspiracies
@@cameraconspiracies most older mobos support it with a bios update
I initially bought my 7900XTX for gaming. It's a beast for that, but I'm shifting its role to video production, specifically running DaVinci Resolve. Your CPU is working harder now because your GPU is able to ask for more. Previously, your 2070 didn't ask for the 3600X to do very much because it was too busy trying to process the little bit the 3600X was sending. As you've observed, the 7900XTX can process far more than the 3600X can send. Remember, 50% utilization of your CPU probably means that every core is engaged and you have very little in reserve. Your 7900XTX can handle more, but once you reach 50% CPU and ask for more, the utilization rate will climb fast. As I recommended in an early video comment, you should now upgrade your CPU to a 5900XT, 16 cores rather than your current six, and faster ones to boot.
@@rangersmith4652 Yep, also because AMD GPU's use OpenCL, vs Nvidia, which use CUDA. OpenCL allows for CPU fallback, so it will hit the CPU when necessary.
Professional programmer and gamer/hardware nerd here. You did well, Brother.
As some have mentioned, the cpu feeding the gpu is correct. It's always a balance.
I'll reiterate another comment as well, you can upgrade the cpu to more cores and probably more importantly, faster cores to feed the gpu as a next step if you find the need in the future.
You did especially well getting that 1kw power supply which future proofs you for a long time.
Couple key points. VRAM (video ram) on the GPU is probably one of the more impactful stats you are looking for in the future, up to limit of course. You went from 8 to 24, which is huge. I doubt we'll be seeing more on mid tier consumer cards any time soon.
You can stay a couple of more release cycles behind on CPU than you can on GPU for the best bang for your buck.
SSD size is largely the only relevant stat going forward, some are faster, but it'd be hard to notice the difference because they are all so fast now. They aren't going to wear out like hard drives did as much in the past, so don't worry. Obviously, you need a backup strategy, but thats a separate issue.
I would look into building yourself a NAS, it can be done relatively cheap and it'll give you expandable redundant storage for your video files. It'd be a great project for you, and good content for your channel, I'm sure a great many of your viewers would benefit. If you need advice, feel free to contact me.
My buddy recently figured out NAS. Bit of a learning curve getting it all going, but now he's stacking 24TB drives and blessing us with Plex etc. I want to build one now using my old Phanteks Enthoo giant azz case.
Or buy a Synology NAS and be done with trying to build one from second-hand computer parts.
@@frankinblackpool That is an option, but those tend to be overpriced and vendor locked. The hardware you get is a joke compared to just old dell or whatever desktops you can find on facebook marketplace for a faction of the cost. I built mine initially from my old dell optiplex computer and I've just upgraded it over the years with older hardware. Most expensive parts are the drives and you'd likely need to buy those anyway with a prebuilt.
@@m.corey.thompson It can be a cost effective option to have a NAS, in the long run. They use less energy and as a result reduce your electricity bills. And for something like Synology, they meet my low IT skills.
Congrats on Tredeau 🎉
glad to hear the upgrade went well, and even though i am biased slightly i think you made the right choices here with the upgrade path.
Also really pleased that the Task Manager tip helped you to pinpoint the weak points.
great job!
I think the 24gb RAM is huge. The 8GB RAM was probably causing the 2070 GPU usage to be maxed out and it seems like the raw power of the GPU is nowhere near being tasked within Resolve. Also, I'm definitely not an expert, but I think CUDA and Open CL are just like the language of the GPU that developers have to use to code their programs to leverage the GPU (and Apple has Metal). So the fact that you can't tick the CUDA box doesn't mean that you're losing out necessarily as long as the developers at DaVinci are putting in the effort to maximize OpenCl and Metal, etc.
Yep and AMD GPUs do well with Davinci.
Yeah, that was my guess also. You can literally see the VRAM being maxed out on all the tests he did. And ironically enough, on the RX 7900XTX the VRAM usage seems to only be around 10 gigs, so not even that far over the 8 gigs of the rtx 2070. But that's just the world of memory. It's never an issue until it's full, and then shit starts hitting the fan. If only Nvidia wasn't so stingy on VRAM. And you're pretty much right on the Open CL and Cuda side of things. Altho Cuda refers to both nvidias gpu cores as well as their software. Other than that, it's really just a different language as you said.
For my 24GB 3090 the same thing applies. Having that headroom is essential for creatives. I am not super creative I just like high end stuff so I got a used one which saved money and time as its a really nice card and I undervolted it successfully at 900mV at 1920MHz which is all I need for 4k 144hz gaming. Gotta check DaVinci as I heard so much great things about it!
I've been using the same 7900 XTX for over a year to edit my videos in DaVinci Resolve. I haven't been happier with any other GPU so far. The amount of VRAM is amazing. Great choice!
Good on you for actually doing research, looking for the best tool for your specific needs and saving money in the mean time.
Congratulations on the PC upgrade!
Now we need a *Gaming Conspiracies* to use 100% of that GPU.
GPU's 24GB VRAM really helps, especially on 6k and up. I'm glad you got a good setup, now you only need to upgrade the CPU and possibly SSD/nvme drive.
The urge to sell my Mac Mini M4 and buy a 7900XTX is irresistible now. Oh, boy, it doesn't even have RGB.
Your M4 sips power (saving you money) and probably encodes h265 as fast... The niche things Apple does well.
I say do it. It's the new equivalent of daddy buying you a fast car Vs you building an a$$ kicking sleeper underdog .
@@FPVwineUK its faster then a xtx7900
@@JB-jr3bm what do you mean new car,?? the. Mac mini M4 5 weeks old./ got released 1month + 1week ago
. and its faster than then 7900, this guy above just feeds of new stuff he sees, like idk man, weird to even talk about his M4 like that, as its BRAND NEW, unless there's a gramma error and not the M4
There are some things Nvidia is downright better for because of the CUDA cores and how software is designed specifically to take advantage of them but if a software isn't designed specifically for Nvidia, AMD absolutely destroys Nvidia in price per performance and does not get the credit at all. I just built a new PC with a 9800X3D and a 7900XT (XTX was all sold out D:) and it handles absolutely anything without breaking a sweat. If you do plan on upgrading, I'd probably go with something like a 5800X or 5900X if you want to stick with AM4. The X3D Chips are designed specifically for gaming and fall behind in a lot of productivity tasks.
12th Gen i7 from Intel is a true diamond in the rough. One of their best CPU's they've ever made. I was a long time AMD user. No more. I love my 12700KF i7. Has 12 cores, costs around 177 usd right now, which is the lowest price ever. I got mine for 255 a year and a half ago? Replaced an AMD 3700x. Couldn't be happier.
@@Riaining7So, you bought the wrong CPU. A KF version with no internal GPU and no Quicksync, which is the best acellerator for video playback on Windows.
Nvidia has Cuda cores, AMD has their own equivalent. The only real upside to CUDA, is the vastly better support in various software. A lot more software support CUDA, than AMD GPU's equivalent.
@@akyhne I chose to get the KF because I didn''t want the APU technology, that's what I figured my GPU would do, thought I'd be saving overhead and getting a better product. I wasn't aware I was crippling my Windows video playback, could you perhaps elaborate?
@Riaining7 The GPU features of the Intel processors, are the best for any kind of decoding of video. It also supports more formats, than a Nvidia or AMD GPU.
If you had chosen a CPU in the form of an APU, the CPU would do playback and some other tasks natively (hardware acelleration), and your discrete GPU would do everything else. In other words, because you saved maybe $50 on a KS, you have significantly halted your system.
CPU's with hyperthreading, like your 6 core 12 thread 3600X, will rarely report 100% usage, because half of the cores are fake. It also only shows the total, but many applications don't scale well over multiple cores so you can be bottlenecked by the CPU on 1 core and windows will still show 10% cpu load.
Since it's showing peaks to 50% CPU load, you're definitely CPU limited, and upgrading the CPU will result in a noticeable improvement.
Since your system is AM4 and we're at AM5 now, you need to replace the motherboard, cpu AND RAM. I'd recommend a 9600X - 9950X. Don't get the 3D chips, they'll perform worse and are more expensive.
If you want to do a cheap upgrade, buy a 5950X and put it in your existing system. It should be compatible with your motherboard, and it is also MUCH faster than a 3600X.
I was gonna comment that too. It's not that helpful to look at the full cpu utalization in the taskmanager on high core count cpus. It makes more sense to look at the usage of the individual cores.
Altho the peaking at 50% supposidly showing a bottleneck is nonsense. For really the same reasons you just explained one sentence prior. You can see the cpu usage scale to over 60% at 7:52 in the video, so 50% couldn't possibly indicate a bottleneck just yet. Also as long as the software can make usage of multithreading, which most modern professional programs do, then the cpu usage will scale normally between physical cores and threads.
The 5950x is a fantastic upgrade suggestion for the platform. I'm actually on the same CPU as casey, and i'm also considering getting the 5950x instead of upgrading to AM5. Considering that it's still fairly expensive in comparison i don't wanna do that just yet.
Yes, you need to look at all cores, but what you say is completely wrong about the cores being fake and therefore 50% being the real 100%. Otherwise the performance wouldn't decrease if you disable SMT in the BIOS.
It's simply a matter of multicore support for the software.
@@jayzn1931 I didn't write 50% is the real 100%. I can't be wrong about things that I didn't write. I wrote that the software peaking at 50% usage indicates a CPU bottleneck. I stand by my comment that it is 100% a CPU bottleneck and upgrading to a faster chip (like the 5950X) will result in noticeable performance improvement.
@ It sounds like you just did that again. It might be possible sometimes that a CPU utilization below 90% still indicates a CPU bottleneck, but it is very unlikely. Only when Casey shows us the core utilizations and we can see for example 4 cores at 90-100% we can be sure about that. What you say can‘t be proven and therefore doesn’t make sense to me. Usually a bottleneck sits somewhere else and if the footage runs smoothly why should there be a bottleneck, it can’t run faster…
@@jayzn1931 it is not unlikely at all, but its fine to disagree.
Congrats on your upgrade! I highly recommend the bequiet! Silent wings 4 fans
I bought a new graphics card for a new computer in December.
Asus GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER TUF GAMING OC 12G (220 W)
- I am quite satisfied. Quiet, cool.
Now Rendering my videos in 4K (100Mbit/s with effects) takes only 3 min. (3 min. - 4 min.) - 10x increase in rendering speed!
On the my previous graphics card it took me about 40 min. (40 min. - 60 min.) This is Asus GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER TUF GAMING OC 4096MB - however, this old card is very decent, also quiet and cool.
I'm still rocking a 1060 6gb in my computer. Been noticing some lag here and there especially if doing c-log footage.
THIS is what makes this channel so great. We all are curious if this Nvidia CUDA is a bunch of BS and now we have our proof. Well done Kasey!!
CUDA=Adobe.
How is it with your nemesis, the Canon codec?
Thankfully I don't need to know lol. My C70 has great codecs, and the R5 II has XFAVC now. It was only the old R5 that sucked.
@@cameraconspiracies, we'll have to find you a new nemesis ... other than photographers.
Hey good for you. If you need USB C look into PCI E usb expansion cards you can plug in your motherboard in the shorter slots so you can have it in your present computer.
Yes, that's the route I'm going. It's blocking one of my GPU fans, but what could go wrong? :)
@@cameraconspiraciesyeh, just get a low profile/small card for the usb-c. Won't worry your GPU. And besides, if it's only at 11%, it's not sweating anyway
@@cameraconspiracies Make sure you get 3.2 gen 2x2. Better yet if your mobo has thunderbolt connecter get a thunderbolt card.
Edit: Btw think about going m.2 enclosure instead of buying external ssds. Its cheaper and your write life will last a hell of alot longer, not to mention less chance of failures unlike the samsung ssds.
So happy for you. My GPU with 8gb vram is nervous it will be replaced.
My 24x7 server is still running an Intel 520 SSD from 2012 zero issues, don't worry about solid state drives.
I am scared by all the individual drives I'm seeing in Task Manager... are those just your menagerie of SD cards etc or do you have a bunch of individual hard drives? some form of NAS w/ a basic RAID array would be ideal to protect your archives of data... and then making backups of that and or at least the stuff you would hate to lose...
as someone who doesn't own a single "real" camera and makes a living doing IT stuffs... yet has watched most of your videos for many years because I just enjoy your work... I find it delightful that there is this sudden twist of I.T. problems and solutions... glad you've decided to dive into this and do it all yourself, it gets addictive!
It's mostly the SD card reader I think. I just have the 1TB SSD, and 2TB 7200rpm, a 4TB and two 16TB USB drives.
Yeah... IDK why, but AMD GPUs seem to work soooo much better for Davinci Resolve Studio than Nvidia GPUs. I found this out by accident, when a few years back I was forced to buy an AMD GPU for the video editing studio I was setting up for my dad's company, because prices were insane for Nvidia. I was absolutely blown away at the difference, and I haven't purchased an Nvidia GPU or an Intel CPU since!
Glad to see that your needs have been met by the upgrades. If you ever need to upgrade your cpu it will be so cheap by then. Time to invest in some good bulk storage.
Side note I can’t believe you were using your video card usb -c as a data port. Of all the pc content I’ve watched I never knew that was a possibility and thought it was only for video out for VR which is why it’s missing from almost all modern cards
Putting out a video with this title the DAY Nvidia launched the 5000 series is insane haha. The 16GB 5070Ti is not much more than a 7900XTX and would probably offer much better performance
There are times the 24GB will give advantages but the Tensor and AI cores on Nvidia cards are used by stacks of different effects & tools in Resolve and they're adding new Neural FX and AI tools all the time. 8GB is definitely not enough for heavy FX in Resolve which is why the 2070 shat bricks.
When a GPU accelerates video decoding etc properly it wont show as high GPU utilisation.
You can see more detail on what's going on your graphics card if you open the GPU details in task manager.
Should the 2070 be that bad though? And how was it only at 65 deg C when running maxed out?
If you get the Ryzen 7 5700X3D in the future you will complete a very good pc upgrade that will be fine for some years to come. You can always add more RAM if you need it in the future and the SSDs will probably need to be changed in the future but for the most part you are good to go! Good job!
He doesn't game,, so the X3D would be a poor choice. A 5950X would be much faster.
Hopes you know about SSD rewrite life. Surely. Especially if Davinci is using the same one for cache. Etc.
I love the background light. It seems I am having tea with my mom. So heartwarming.
Macrium Reflect (free version) works great to mirror your operating system (ssd/nvme) to a new and larger drive.
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can't really see the numbers at 0:54 unless my video resolution is above 1080p so could you use larger text in the future? I love numbers and statistics.
So, did replacing the power supply got rid of the rattling sound or is it still present?
Yes, it's gone.
It's now just as quite as the 26 other fans 😁
@@cameraconspiracies Sorry, I was trolling. Thank you for your time. I heard you saying it's gone but I still tempted to troll. Happy New Upgrade to you!
Glad you like your upgrade now you can make more content easier and with less headaches but if you still wish to upgrade your CPU mostly because of you like to edit videos the 5700 X3D is nice but you might want to go with your board try the 5800x3D or maybe the 5900X or the 5900 XT 12 core 24 thread or maybe the 5950XT 16 core 32 thread that's what I have
Again congratulations on your upgrade
I'm super happy you decided to upgrade instead of biting the apple or jumping into midlife AM5. Hold strong brother. You'll be happy in a few years when you get to jump onto AM6.
Well done, if you want more fast USB ports, there are PCIe add-in cards that you can get for that. I bet there are still some PCIe ports accessable on the mainboard even with that GPU installed.
You can add m.2 ssd’s via pcie adapters as well.
The Nvidia GPU showed utilization in the "3D" section, while the Decode section interestingly was on 0%. For the AMD, the Decode section is not selected in Task manager, so it would be interesting if this time around that is used! But no major GPUs have HW acceleration for 4:2:2 H.265 content, so this is probably the reason the "3D" power was used.
It's a bit weird though seeing so much better performance on the 7900XTX, as it is not like it's 4x+ the power of a 2070, so I wonder what exactly is causing the difference here.
The bigger VRAM is gonna come into play of course.
Also for the CPU, it would make sense to look at the individual cores, you can do that in Task Manager by right cliking on the graphic and changing it to logical processors.
I was surprised anyway why you ordered an X3D CPU, had never heard they are good for video editing! For games they are great, sure, but they are usually slower than their non-X3D counterparts in producitivity apps, while being more expensive!
Good to hear anwyway it's going a lot smoother now! I also am thinking about a GPU upgrade and the just announced 5070 only has 12GB still, so I going with a 7800XT is very interesting to me, but just like you, I would have to upgrade my power supply, which makes the change even more expensive, which I don't like. But I am only gaming on it atm so I am just gonna wait until prices get better.
Oh and also, check your SSD with tools like CrystalDiskInfo or similar. You can actually predict the life span in % and look at individual factors whether it will die soon or not.
Also, if an SSD has reached its total bytes written, it can still read so you can still access your files.
Great upgrade on the GPU! But the real question remains, what are you going to do about the loss of the USB-C connection!? 😜
I wonder how the 5090 will compare.
Love your videos man! 🎉
I'd be curious to see your other test results with nvidia cards. Id be happy to build and properly integrate one for you, it would aave you tons of time exporting and soing sinple things, ita kind of what i do. You woudl of course just need to buy the components.
Upgrading to a 5900xt would result in a computer that would probably last you another 8ish years. I’m upgrading to a 5700x3d because I’m a gamer and probably an Rtx 5070ti.
40 series Nvidia GPU are better for gaming and DLSS if you're trying to max out your settings but no worries if not gaming. SSD cards last about 10 years and normally have a rewrite warranty of 12x the original capacity but a external NAS that is set to move files if a drive blows is the second safest next to a cloud. Was only wondering if you replaced the cable for the PSU or used the old ones. PSU cables tend to be brand specific or they recommend to use the cables included. & 50 series GPU gets announced today at 6:30pm but that is a steep $upgrade.
Old PSU wasn't modular.
The 40 series was a no go for me because they cheaped out on the display port of all things. They’re all stuck with old 1.4 from the 2010s so they won’t perform up to spec with my ultrawide 2.1 ports display. Even the 4090 got hobbled this way, to force the people who spent +1k to upgrade to this new gen being announced today with modern 2.1 display ports.
@@RiderOfKarma Display port through usb-c is the alternative if its supported and a person doesn't want to upgrade to 50 series. 50 series gpu still would like gen 5 pcie lane upgrade although its backwards compatible so lots of money spent to have the best. I have the Godlike MB so no problems with connections for me using usb c display using a qd oled. the new QD oled with 600hz $1k plus monitors announced during Ces this week will need those upgraded ports most likely. Good luck with 50 series and I wont buy one until my 4090 pays for itself.
@@op_jazzI'm curious how your 4090 will pay for itself 🤔
@@Zachari94 Just saying out of all my sources of income photography & pc building is a hobby. Sure I can sell the 4090 & upgrade but no point of doing that unless I can find a reason that I need to render things more quickly. I typically do most things for fun but to add to the confusion I use a 4070 super for my hobbies. 4090 is for running Valorant at 480hz😂
So so good! I recently upgraded my hackintosh from a 6600 XT to 6900 XT. Did a similar video! My Seasonic PSU has a silent mode... Wish I had done it years ago... It's so heavenly quiet now.
When I moved to using Linux full-time, I tried using an NVIDIA card. I quickly discovered that AMD cards are honestly much better.
Great video. Intriguing, captivating. I was on the edge of my seat. Well, just sitting on the couch. 🤔
However, this is exactly the video I was looking for. You finally provided the answer - YES, I can use an AMD GPU, rather than spending so much on the green goblin. 😂
Most videos about GPUs are about gaming or are totally telling me I NEED to use Nvidia for the Cuda cores. Hogwash!
Thanks for your work on this.
That's impressive performance! I'm putting together a new system this actual minute, and I decided to go with the RTX4080 Super instead of the 7900XTX... Kind of doubting the wisdom of my purchase right now. Lol.. But there were some areas where the 7900XTX fell down a little bit, I just can't remember what the hell they were.
C70 image looked great in this one BTW. Until you added film look creator at least. Don't do that. Haha
I would guess that the upgrade of the VRAM on your GPU would make a big difference when it comes to video editing IMO. The upgraded computer looks to be pretty sweet, at least until all the AI programs start sucking the juice out of it, nice job 👍👍😎
please tell me you have external drives to store your music and videos on 🙏👍🏼 (backup files)
I have 2 redundant 16TB drives.
@@cameraconspiraciestoo redundant
My desktop has seen a number of upgrades over the years to keep it limping on, but, I think it’s at the end of the upgrade road now. The motherboard is from 2008 and the cpu is a Xeon x5670 - to give some idea of its age.
if you plan on editing 4k-6k footage you're better off building a newer gen pc. doesn't have to be latest, but definitely at least last two gens before. because the speed of storage drives now nearly triple the speed of your xeon platform plus RAM is better with DDR5 now those play alot on higher res clips/
@ Yeap, absolutely. The Xeon x5670 wasn’t the first processor I started with on this motherboard either, that was a ‘strategic’ planned upgrade to keep the PC going, but that was many years ago now, along with multiple other upgrades along the way.
The performance, or rather, lack of, has only really become apparent in the past 3 months, because I’ve started doing regular video editing, and while I’m only outputting 1080p, I am now capturing in 4k, and attempting more complex stuff than I’ve done in the past. So, In recent months, I’ve been researching components for a new build. Exciting, if expensive, times!
@@TheLDunn1 yeah I hear ya, I have an 8700k with 128gb ram plus a 2080ti and my time line stutters and freezes on 4k60 HEVC clips, even ProRes and thats not too old of a pc, but just tells ya how complex 4k editing is getting now a days. Smh.
Credit where credit is due for Davinci Resolve. They do a great job of using the entire computer. The puget benchmarks(standard) on ryzen 9 9950X with 7900 XTX scores right there with i9 285k(new 14900k) with RTX 4080 and 4090. Actually, to score over 12000, the intel 285k guys are having to run the DDR5 ram at 8800mhz. For reference, a ryzen 5 9600X with 7900 XTX scores 9300 on puget standard benchmark. You've come this far, finish the build with a new ryzen 9900X.
Okay, first off, some advice. I would recommend upgrading your CPU soon. If its getting the job done, then by all means, ignore what I'm saying. But your CPU is no essentially not keeping up with your GPU. Your GPU is faster than your CPU is and thats creating, what we call a bottleneck in your system. Its a common misconception that having your GPU at 100% utilization is bad, which its not. That essentially means you're rendering to the maximum capability of your hardware. For a CPU however, since there is a constant stream of tasks to accomplish, having your CPU at 100% is really not great, because your system cannot keep up with the demands of whatever task you're trying to accomplish. It seems here that your CPU usage is still below 100%, but you could get even more performance if you were to do a minor upgrade, maybe to a Ryzen 5 5600x, it should be compatible with all your hardware and you wont need to buy a new PSU or anything, its a motherboard firmware upgrade and you swap it out and it should fix those CPU usage issues you were seeing, while still having your GPU free to do what it is doing.
Side note, as an RTX 4090 user, you would not believe how many problems I've had with a(what cost me) $1600 graphics card. I've had countless errors with games that came down to buggy driver updates, my monitors do crazy shit that never happened before, like VRR not working properly, one of my display ports are at a lower bandwidth than the rest, not to mention that Nvidia decided to make a GPU that didn't conform to the latest display port standard, DP 2.1 (which the XTX does also btw), and the thing is so fucking big it comes loose in my motherboard every time I move the PC. I hope your GPU is not total garbage and all im saying is, when its time for me to upgrade, im not going with Nvidia again, thats for sure.
It's probably due to the lack of specific encode/decode accelerators on your old card that the load was so high. Your new card has those, and the workload is sent to those accelerators and the rest of the GPU is essentially doing nothing at all.
Nvidia's CUDA cores are better for GPU effects, Fusion and anything AI related like auto-subtitles and noise reduction. I would be interested in your experience with these tasks in Davinci
People are still running sata disks, as long as your SSD is keeping up you don't have to do anything. Your next major upgrade will be the motherboard, CPU and memory. You can probably still use the videocard and you can definitely use the case and power supply.
If you wanna see the REAL CPU usage, right click on the CPU graph, "logical processors" It will show every thread of the CPU, if even a single one is maxed out, that's the bottleneck. In that case, a CPU upgrade might help but not as much as changing to a newer platform(AM5)
You were experiencing vram bottlenecking before. The performance was horrible because of this. (In gaming this will often cut performance down to 25% of original performance)
With sufficient vram now performance is much better, even though it seems there is less hardware acceleration on the GPU.
@Cameraconspiracies AMD just revealed a laptop chip that is over twice as fast as the desktop 4090 in certain scenarios because it can be outfitted with 128GB of RAM.
When out of vram performance is horrible, however extra vram you aren’t using adds 0% performance gain
The timing on this video is poetic as they announced the new nvidia gpus... However.. AMD is still great for the amount of ram on the 7900 xtx.
you would definitely get a speed increase moving to a 5700x3d, even though not maxed out the 3600 is much much slower than even a 5600x
What you're observing is the old CPU now has to work more since the GPU can play at the designed speed of the clip. So the CPU has to do more work. If you see it going past 90% CPU usage, there's your bottleneck and time to upgrade the CPU
Very nice performance, that 2070 was bottlenecking your 3600X BAD.
7900XTX is a beast for raster gaming, videoediting & photoediting (too bad is super crap for 3D creative apps like Blender & Unreal Engine, could have been an incredible allrounder with it's wonderful 24GB of VRAM).
PD: What's up with all the Nvidia fanboys in the comments section? they're defending Nvidia like it's their dad's company or some shit like that.
Nvidia has Ai bots flood every comment section imo
It is so unfortunate that AMD doesn't do anything to improve their 3D Rendering performance. So many people (including me) would own a 7900XT or XTX for that purpose with the VRAM
That GPU is amazing, especially for the price. Good decision, bro.
You mentioned losing your files and music if your SSD dies. Maybe you already have them backed up, but if not, back them up. An SSD is like anything else. It can fail. They may be very reliable overall, but any SSD can fail at any time. Have a backup. Actually, have two backups.
7900XTX is great value, depending on how much you paid for it. If you want similar Apple convenience with PC's upgradability/value, you could invest in a future ITX build: small, powerful, good looking. Just need to get an ITX motherboard and SFX power supply, and obviously a good case to fit everything in. Nice to see you tried and learned from working on your machine ✌🏻
I've noticed the prices on AM4 CPUs are rising. I forget what B450 mobo you have but it might not be able to handle a 5900x or 5950x. Your best options are finding a 5800x/5700x, or looking on marketplace for a 5900x. Don't get a 5700 non x.
That is an odd result for Catalyst browse. It shouldn't need a reference point since it relies on gyroscopic data from the camera. I think there is another program called gyroflow that also uses it but I haven't tried. I don't use catalyst often any more because I don't like the fact that I have to essentially quadruple my shutter speed to reduce motion blur.
On task manager there are little drop down arrows next to the word 3D, Copy, Copy1 etc. It lets you change the graph to view another type of dataset. Likely you aren't viewing the right graph in task manager.
I have the same 7900xtx and it is an absolute beast in Davinci.
The devil on Casey's shoulder: Now install them games!
Curious if you have given the AV1 encoder a try yet, something your old gpu didn't have. If it doesn't show in the mp4 format then try mkv which supports it along with 24bit audio
Now that you upgraded your PC and hair color you can get a Canon get glorious colors and edit the files
PC Conspiracies- Cool new channel!
I'm confused. Your 7900XTX is superior to my Nvidia RTX 3090 card and you are getting way better results than me.
Your card is using 12% max of its capabilities while my 3090 is always maxing out at 99%. This is both before and after I upgraded my CPU to a Ryzen 5950x.
Am I doing something wrong?
Even if I use Noise Reduction or not, my RTX 3090 is always running at 99%. My brain hurts.
NVIDIA 4xxx series and AMD 7xxx series both have hardware AV1 decoding. Maybe that's the reason for better performance.
I think you are under estimating AMD here too much. AMD on the 7000 series has really good media engines for all of this in resolve. It's very high performance when using AV1 for example. Most reviewers only seen to use MP4 work h.264 which AMD is weak in but all else it's great
Might be off topic but are any new cameras coming announced at this CES? Supposedly DJI Support hinted a new mysterious camera was coming in response to a comment about mirrorless camera. I am intrigued.
On the topic of missing USB-C, if your motherboard has a free PCIe slot (similar to the one you connected your graphics card), you can buy a *USB PCIe Card*.
Though depending on the motherboard, doing that reduces the performance of the GPU. In that case, might as well just use a USB adapter.
uffffff you wanna get into the GPU consipiracies.... that´s a deep hole to explore
Bought a new xfx 9700xtx two days ago for 740 pounds via ebay. I had an rtx 4070TI. I cannot even talk about how much improvement I am seeing. it is paired with a ryzen 7 7800x3d. No more crashes in games. I can finally play black myth wukong, indiana jones etc. 4k monitor LG c3 42 inches and I am just stunned. I am pretty sure that a 4080 super would not come close to this one. My first AMD GPU is just a killer option at this price range.
First time I have watched one of your videos. I have no interest in cameras but yout video was very entertaining!
Might be need new motherboard for your new CPU in the future. But hey, no rush needed. And glad you choose AMD. they just works. Literally. No hassle. Their adrenaline software is easy to use also. And if I'm not mistaken you get a free game with your GPU purchase. Unless you got it second handed 😅
I’ve got a 4080 Super in my Windows machine but have been waiting for 7900xtx prices to drop so I can update my 6950xt in my Linux rig.
I’m assuming 7900xtx will soon become hard to find if prices do drop, and I’ll be stuck buying the next generation for $1,000. Oh well.
So after everything is running quiet and smoothly can we now see how Kasey builds a NAS 😬
should have saved up for 5070
Hope you see this but while a little janky you can use a "USB C to DisplayPort" and a "USB C Female to Female Adapter" , it will turn your dp port into usb c basically.
Also from the vegetable police channel, Antibiotics are natural they are taken from the soil and put into pills not synthetically made in a lab.
I don't trust adapters like that, they throttle speeds in my experience.
You shouldn't be complaining about the lack of storage space for your files. Just before Thanksgiving, I bought a 20TB Western Digital external USB 3.0 drive for $295.47 USD (including tax) via Amazon Prime.
You might want to upgrade your memory I highly suggest getting the V-color 64 gig kit 4800 MHz DDR4 the same kit that I also use
But you will have to up the voltage to 1.55 volts so you can achieve the 4800 megahertz constant
Hey, if you want to upgrade AND want more longevity to your build, go for an AM5 build, people said to go for a 5000 series cpu, yes, i get it, but you're locked down without any more upgrades after that (go for a 5900xt if you still want to go ahead)
However, going for AM5, you'll need to upgrade your cpu, motherboard AND ram, it really depends on your budget
He's already on AM4, and has that 5000 series upgrade path. Way cheaper. Not a huge performance difference for the work he's doing. His PC will probably work fine for another 5 years.
edit: the only thing is it's a PCIE3 B450, but again, probably not worth upgrading before AM6 which will make all this pricey AM5 stuff obsolete overnight.
retired computer tech here, I would stop the fan and see if that stopped the noise. Take the case off and doing it for a few seconds hurts nothing. Go fan by fan until you find the right one. In case it ever happens again. As someone else pointed out, your GPU used to be the bottleneck and why the CPU wasn't used much. Now the CPU is the bottleneck and why it is used close to max compared to the GPU.
Video has come a long way since I got my first Nvidia Riva 128....
Such performance in Davinci because in 7900 there are hardware coders/encoders HEVC which are not in RTX2070, but they are also in RTX 40 series
Still using my same pc since '09. The power supply and case are the only original parts now. That power supply is going to die someday. Corsair 750 is a tank.
The endless upgrade cycle of PCs is what makes buying an "expensive" mac every 4-6 years makes more sense to me - you get all the parts upgraded at the same time in a perfectly tuned package. No BIOS, no driver updates, no twiddling … oh sorry … forgot you didn't want mac comments ;)
CrystalDiskInfo will give you the health status of your SSD, if its below 80% health, might be time to get a new one.
USB-C: That's was Thunderbolt/USB-C Display. The only posts I have seen about it are complaining about it not working well as a USB port. A decent USB hub is great though, I connect all my USB stuff into a hub and then when I need to pull the PC it's a whole lot less cables to screw with.
i've seen these cards at around 800$ to 950$ before. when did you buy this 7900xtx for it to cost 1100$?
It's Canadian prices...
I have the same GPU in my new build. I have the EVGA Gold 1000 power supply. A ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming Wi-Fi motherboard with the core-i9 14900K CPU. I should have gone with the ASUS 4070 Ti Super because the Adrenaline software for the Merc 310 crashed and is poison to OS. What sucks about Davinci is you can't use Linux Mint Cinnamon. Their "Linux" is built for CentOS or Arc, not Debian, and it's a cob job to convert Davinci to Debian so it works.
So technically speaking Nvidia is faster
But golly is the company getting so anti consumer as of late. I rather spend my money on AMD and have slightly worse performance in Resolve than give another dime to Nvidia.
Fantastic choice with the 7900 xtx
Where did you get that hair❤
So what was the takeaway from all that?