Great video mate. As someone who also drove both, the 981 felt a bit more special. A more raw and visceral experience. That said as a daily, the 718 would be much easier to live with.
Aesthetically the 981 Cayman is beauty to look at and certain the rear lights were 4 years ahead of the 911 as they incorporated the sculpted rear lights in the 991.2 in 2015.
Supply and demand meant that I went to a Porsche Club GB track day several years ago and spoke to an attendee who had a 981 GT4 (well before the 718 was available) and he could have sold it for 145K. I think the price he paid was no more than 80K, so that's quite a mark up. Those days are over for either GT4. Or, given the fact that we will all have to drive a silent battery with some wheels stuck on it soon, are they...
Interesting to hear this and gosh £145k is bonkers. I can’t believe there were people willing to pay this sort of money for them. Lol so true about the future. Hopefully those days are not soon 😂
According to Porsche the majority of any lap time difference between the 981 and 718 was due to the newer spec N2 Cup Sport tires. The 3.8L engine is also the more desirable, as it doesn't have the possible durability issues and unnecessary complications of start/stop and cylinder deactivation of the 4.0L 718 engine. There's a reason why both the 981 AND the 718 GT4 Clubsport models stayed with the proven and reliable 3.8L engine for track use.
The 718 GT4 hasn’t been around for long enough to know whether they are reliable or not. In terms of performance there isn’t a huge difference esp on public roads.
You made several comments about the gearbox on the 718 being different,I understand the clutch mechanism is different but I'm pretty sure the gearbox did not change between the generations. Same ratio's,same short shifter on what is essentially the GTS gearbox.
100% identical. I was left baffled by that comment as well. The gearing is the big negative, although fixable issue. Perhaps in the 4.0 it is less apparent? Hard to believe when they both do near 84 mph in second...
@@invictusporsche IKR, bonkers. No rational use case for ratios that long for street, let alone a vehicle meant to be tracked. Unless, they want it neutered or for some extreme fuel saving. At least they should make shorter gears an option.
No worries @@invictusporsche, I have a 981 GT4 and a smattering of other classic and modern Porsches. You might not be aware, but ALL manual GT3’s and GT4’s share very similar ratios. You wil find they work very wel on track as you mostly take fast corners in 3 and tighter ones in 2. They really are perfectly spaced.
In terms of drama and noise the 981 has more of it. The 718 needs some of the silencing of exhaust removed. The clutch is lighter on the 718 so more daily friendly. What do you drive now?
Novice lol, don’t fall into the better performance on paper is the end all determing factor in value. I’ll stick with my 981 GT4 until I get a GT4 RS.IMO the 718 GT4 is not worth the premium ovet the 981 GT4. The RS is a whole different animal.
Lol you would need to drive the 718 GT4 to see why I felt the way I did. Yes the 981 GT4 is great but the 718 GT4 is a much better and improved Porsche in every way and shape possible
@invictusporsche at this moment a 987.2 cayman s which is very good,but I'm thinking of upgrading but I'm torn between 981 cayman gts and 981 gt4.Whats your opinion?
Just different the 718 is more induction noise 981 is more exhaust. Both make noise I prefer induction in the cabin I could care less how it sounds outside to others.
@@invictusporsche Yes, and that's incorrect. You can pronounce a noun however you want...like schedule or aluminium. You cannot pronounce a proper noun aka a name however you want. Porsche is a surname and therefore should be pronounced in the way it was originally intended by it's owner, Ferdinand. It is pronounced in two syllables...there's no debate about that.
@@chopinfan57 …. There’s at least a little bit of debate around that. How do you pronounce Paris? Rimac? Jaguar is a British car company, but jaguar comes from a Portuguese word, so the American pronunciation actually makes more sense. Accents change words, cultures change words, even business change words. I’m sure you’ll survive if Basheer pronounces Porsche the way that feels most comfortable to him.
Sure you can. I am in tomorrow from 11am. You are welcome to pop 👍. I have just seen a video of your Honda 125 😂. I have a 1989 CG125, they are ton of fun
Great video mate. As someone who also drove both, the 981 felt a bit more special. A more raw and visceral experience. That said as a daily, the 718 would be much easier to live with.
I agree with you on the rawness esp the exhaust note is a little muted on the 718
I personally like the rear lights of the 981🤙
Aesthetically the 981 Cayman is beauty to look at and certain the rear lights were 4 years ahead of the 911 as they incorporated the sculpted rear lights in the 991.2 in 2015.
Supply and demand meant that I went to a Porsche Club GB track day several years ago and spoke to an attendee who had a 981 GT4 (well before the 718 was available) and he could have sold it for 145K. I think the price he paid was no more than 80K, so that's quite a mark up. Those days are over for either GT4. Or, given the fact that we will all have to drive a silent battery with some wheels stuck on it soon, are they...
Interesting to hear this and gosh £145k is bonkers. I can’t believe there were people willing to pay this sort of money for them.
Lol so true about the future. Hopefully those days are not soon 😂
Both cars are stunning and 981 for me as it is a bit more raw
Thanks Alex, it’s a sensitive line between the two cars. I think the 981 GT4 would be awesome in any collection 👌
Good video. I own a 981 so of course I’m biased. Both are stunning and great cars. Lucky to have either!
Thank you sir. They are great cars. What is the spec of your car?
@@invictusporsche A 981 GT4 in racing yellow. Puts a smile on my face every time I’m on the road
Great video! Love the drone shots synch'd with the exhaust sound! I've got a 718 GT4, love the car, just missing more exhaust noise!
Thank you Spencer. You have excellent taste my friend. I agree the exhaust does need some tweaking, the regs are killing sound
According to Porsche the majority of any lap time difference between the 981 and 718 was due to the newer spec N2 Cup Sport tires. The 3.8L engine is also the more desirable, as it doesn't have the possible durability issues and unnecessary complications of start/stop and cylinder deactivation of the 4.0L 718 engine. There's a reason why both the 981 AND the 718 GT4 Clubsport models stayed with the proven and reliable 3.8L engine for track use.
The 718 GT4 hasn’t been around for long enough to know whether they are reliable or not. In terms of performance there isn’t a huge difference esp on public roads.
Have you driven them both?
You are talking utter nonsense
@@lifeisgreat1718 yep!
Is it just me or 981 GT4 looks alot better?
No I also prefer the 981’s look
A lot of people are sticking to the 981 esp as it is a bit raw
5:20 981 Cold start
11:33 718 Cold start
Thank you
Thank you for the detailed comparison of the two GT4s.
Thanks much appreciate 🙏
You made several comments about the gearbox on the 718 being different,I understand the clutch mechanism is different but I'm pretty sure the gearbox did not change between the generations. Same ratio's,same short shifter on what is essentially the GTS gearbox.
Great back to back comparison! The gear ratios between the 718 and 981 are identical as far as I know.
100% identical. I was left baffled by that comment as well. The gearing is the big negative, although fixable issue. Perhaps in the 4.0 it is less apparent? Hard to believe when they both do near 84 mph in second...
Thank you for the clarification. What do you drive?
That is absolutely mental. Very long ratios
@@invictusporsche IKR, bonkers. No rational use case for ratios that long for street, let alone a vehicle meant to be tracked. Unless, they want it neutered or for some extreme fuel saving. At least they should make shorter gears an option.
No worries @@invictusporsche, I have a 981 GT4 and a smattering of other classic and modern Porsches. You might not be aware, but ALL manual GT3’s and GT4’s share very similar ratios. You wil find they work very wel on track as you mostly take fast corners in 3 and tighter ones in 2. They really are perfectly spaced.
Rear of the 981 with the front of the 718
I just need to have the 718 to get that 4.0 flat 6... I know 981 is great and all but knowing that 4.0L exists out there, I will never forget.
In terms of drama and noise the 981 has more of it. The 718 needs some of the silencing of exhaust removed. The clutch is lighter on the 718 so more daily friendly. What do you drive now?
@@invictusporsche I used to have 991.1 gts with exhaust mods. Currently only have e90 m3 but hoping to add another p car in the future
Novice lol, don’t fall into the better performance on paper is the end all determing factor in value. I’ll stick with my 981 GT4 until I get a GT4 RS.IMO the 718 GT4 is not worth the premium ovet the 981 GT4. The RS is a whole different animal.
Have you driven the 718 gt4?
Nothing on the 718 GT4 warrants the $20-30k price difference in my opinion
Lol you would need to drive the 718 GT4 to see why I felt the way I did. Yes the 981 GT4 is great but the 718 GT4 is a much better and improved Porsche in every way and shape possible
In the UK it’s perhaps no more than £10-£15k. You would need to drive the 718 GT4 to see why it warrants extra ££’s
What colour is the 981 in? Looks gorgeous!
Looks like it’s Agate Gray
It’s Agate grey
I’ll take either!! By the time I can afford one, world will be taken over by EVs and cars focused on tech vs the driving experience.
Haha you are not wrong. Jump into one sooner than later
Great review
Thank you 🙏🏽
I think I would go for the 981 gt4,sounds abit better in my opinion.
It is definitely more raw. What do you drive?
@invictusporsche at this moment a 987.2 cayman s which is very good,but I'm thinking of upgrading but I'm torn between 981 cayman gts and 981 gt4.Whats your opinion?
718 no sound, no emotion 🤷♂️
The 981 GT4 is a bit more raw for sure
Have you heard the modified exhausts?
@@mrenigma6274 you’re telling me you have to spend $5-10k more for an exhaust system on top of the +$20-30k price premium over the 981 GT4. Ouch
Just different the 718 is more induction noise 981 is more exhaust. Both make noise I prefer induction in the cabin I could care less how it sounds outside to others.
A manuel?
The 981 GT4 wins it for me and it is an easy decision.
It is a more raw car. What do you drive?
The 718 is the better car, very easy choice for me.
It’s not too much more either
Since you're a specialist, Porsche is a two syllable name.
In UK it is pronounced differently to US.
@@invictusporsche Yes, and that's incorrect. You can pronounce a noun however you want...like schedule or aluminium. You cannot pronounce a proper noun aka a name however you want. Porsche is a surname and therefore should be pronounced in the way it was originally intended by it's owner, Ferdinand. It is pronounced in two syllables...there's no debate about that.
@@chopinfan57 …. There’s at least a little bit of debate around that. How do you pronounce Paris? Rimac? Jaguar is a British car company, but jaguar comes from a Portuguese word, so the American pronunciation actually makes more sense.
Accents change words, cultures change words, even business change words. I’m sure you’ll survive if Basheer pronounces Porsche the way that feels most comfortable to him.
@@chopinfan57 Porsche is also a girls name in modern day USA. 😅
I own a 981 GT4. The owners manual tells you how to pronounce the word "Porsche".
Ahh Matching Green I’ve got a site round there
Small world, come and say hello 👋🏼
@@invictusporsche I was just about to ask, could I pop over as I’ve literally just purchased a 981 GT4 would be good to come have a chat?
Sure you can. I am in tomorrow from 11am. You are welcome to pop 👍. I have just seen a video of your Honda 125 😂. I have a 1989 CG125, they are ton of fun
@@invictusporsche dangerous little things them 3 wheelers 🤣 don’t like corners
Haha they are mine is a motorcycle. I would love a 3 wheeler
As a 981 GT4 owner I can say the microphone didn’t do the exhaust justice on this video
This guy does't know what he's talking about
Thank you. Appreciate the comment ❤️
718 better in EVERYWAY, inside and out.
It is an improvement in a lot of ways, would you say the 981 is more raw?