Hardware Store Muzzle Loading Pistol Part 2 - SHOOTING!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- I lost some of my footage, but these are the main steps in finishing up and shooting my homemade black powder pistol from hardware store parts. I shot it with a very light charge in my shop. Music: Shakey Graves - Buy his amazing music here shakeygraves.b... and check out his website www.shakeygraves.com One of the most amazing and versatile musicians out there :-) Used by permission of the publisher. Get the simple drawings that I made.
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Do like the colonists did, take it out in the woods, tie it down to trees and rocks, tie a string to the trigger and stand a long way off. Apparently it was standard practice to load it with a double charges when shooting that way. If it withstood the double charge, it was safe for a single charge.
+userunavailable3095 What youre describing is called 'proofing'... All firearm makers do it to this day, they just have a more controlled setting ;) Im unsure about the other manufacturers but I know Ruger proofs their guns with 150% loads.
Thanks!
My father did that with the family's Civil War rifle. Way too much powder. (Likely a triple or quad charge). The barrel blew apart. He got one heck of a whuppin'. He survived only because he tied it in the crotch of a tree, and used a string to fire it with.
LOL - That is a great story!
Proofing of barrels is still done the same way. Double charge.
I must say, being a gunsmith I usually cringe at most of the homemade garbage can guns I have seen on RUclips. Yours is not the case. This was a well thought out and executed build. I like what you did.
Thank you very much, Charles. That is a great compliment coming from a gunsmith!
Like all the ones from Royal Nonesuch?
Seth: Right? How is that guy still alive?
I like the look of the gun but I wish he would have gone into depth about how he used a hex screw for the nipple I had to pause and observe the finished product to see it. When loading though, doesn’t it go powder, patch and then bullet? I mean, I know if shooting a black powder shot gun it goes powder, patch, shot, patch but I don’t think that’s how it goes for much else.
Charles Driggers. If you think making a gun barrel from off the shelf mild steel is a good idea you are a piss poor gunsmith.
I am stuck with muzzleloaders because New Jersey considered a BB gun an assault weapon
I didn't know that about New Jersey, Brett. You should get a cap and ball revolver.
seriously?!??!
I live in Florida part-time I can own them in Florida but there's some states that you can't even own a cap and ball revolver Pike Pennsylvania Virginia New Jersey New York
I own a cap and ball revolver back brass frame the nipples are seized but it still shoots fine last i tested it a bout year ago
I am looking at the 1858 and I can do a cartridge conversion but I do not know if that would be legal
And I was charged with a third-degree felony 3 years later still pending
Add New Jersey cap and ball revolvers must go through National background check and you need a pistol permit
powder , patch , bullet , that order not powder, bullet , patch lol
Cadillac CTS I was like wtf is he doing haha glad you caught that too
Dudes wrong as can be. I've shot severely underbore balls with a tight wad or patch and got a 3 Inch group at 40. A tight bore and patched round ball should produce similar at 75-100.
@@fahey5719 😉👍😊
I think the patch went last because the round wasn't tight in the barrel. In this case it should have been powder, patch, bullet, patch or powder,lotsa patches bullet.
Generally speaking in smooth bores, with a ball it is Powder always first. Then Ball, and then patch sufficient to keep the ball in place if in a hurry, otherwise the ball wrapped in patch for better accuracy and range. In Rifled barrels, it is Powder, then tightly patched ball, all in one. The exception to that is when an oversized ball is hammered in to the muzzle with a false muzzle device and a small mallet; that is to say no patch because the soft lead ball has been engraved with the rifling.
Awesome! I love to make one but definitely will be jailed for that here :(
Haha. Please don't make it, Ca! I need you to be out of jail and free to make great videos for me to watch. :-)
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Well cant Build one Buy one you can Own one in germany still Not Build one yourself
@@klompex100 man kann Perkussionspistolen bauen aber da muss man dann natürlich Beschluss bekommen.
@@einhundertfunfzig4919 hast du recht
your a very skilled craftsman brilliant build regards from uk
Thank you, Simon. I appreciate your encouragement and taking time to leave me a comment. Cheers
I've loaded a few and powder, patch,then ball. The patch envelopes the ball as it's rammed on to the charge. The patch is trimmed to fit before seating the ball.
It's so beautiful to see that the righteous and the crafts skilled ones will always strive to maintain the right to keep and bear arms.
Thanks!
А ЕСЛИ ВМЕСТО ПОРОХА БУДЕТ СПИЧЕЧНАЯ СЕРА ? МОЩНОСТЬ ТАКАЯ ЖЕ БУДЕТ ИЛИ НЕТ ?
I love your gun and how you made it.
Wish I had the shop and tools to make one myself.
Bravo!
Thanks so much for your kind words and for taking the time to leave me a comment. I appreciate it :-)
You can get a CVS kit and it wouldn't blow up in your face.
@@terranceperkins9656 CVA
I love Shakey Graves. Very nice build and great music. Super enjoyable to watch
Thanks for the kind words and encouragement PL!
I saw an article in a Popular Mechanics years ago showing how to build a black powder rifle using a steering column from an old car. Yup.
I know this is old... But why do people feel the need to trash talk a simple project as if its being pushed fourth as the newest design from Barrett?
Its a homemade flintlock for shits and giggles!
To the people who disapproves... Why are you even here?!
Evan Jones not trying to be pedantic but it’s a caplock my man.
Flintlocks are much more intricate
I'm amazed that you still have both eyes and all your fingers? As a 50 year black powder man, I've seen boughten barrels blow up and they were made of the correct steel, not mild junk steel from hardware stores. They say God watches out for Children and fools. That being said... nice job. MacGyver would be proud.
Dave
Pappy Dave's Knives
Haha, I am too old to be a child, Dave. So I must fit into the latter category :-). Wanting to keep my fingers and eyes, I did check the PSI rating for both the liner and the black iron pipe before I fired it. I have ample strength for the light loads I shot. But, one can never be too careful... I don't want to tempt that protection. Have a great week.
Glad to hear that you checked out the PSI rating BEFORE you shot it. I used to tie mine to a tree and use a rope to pull the trigger. I built a 69 caliber smooth bore Tower pistol that shot a 300 grain bullet back in 1975 and that's how I tested it. I couldn't even find a bullet mold so I made my own. I was terrified of it before that first shot :~))))) God bless.
Dave
Gunsteel is mild steel not some secret formula.
If it's a secret, you would know?
@@billwessels207 High tensile strenght mild steel but yes - mild steel..
If I would every would have to rely on the rubbish steel grades sold in DIY stores I would go at least double wall thickness for the target pressure... just my thought...
2:27 excuse me but can u please explain how to connect that bolt looking thing near the barrel wich the hammer is supposed to strike i didnt see any explanations on how u attached it to the barrel and thats real important otherwise I wont be able to fire
I drilled an tapped a hole and threaded a piece of a bolt into it that had an "L" shaped hole. This L was formed by drilling 3/4 of the way through the bolt, and then another hole drilled down to meet it from the top of the bolt face. I threaded that top hole for the nipple (the part the percussion cap goes on)
I'd like to suggest that you put the powder in first, THEN the lubricated patch with the ball wrapped in it.. (The patch does little good being placed last in the barrel, if you design the barrel to fit the bullet properly.) You don't want a lot of airspace between the powder & the ball. Bad things can happen. OTT, Great build.
Thanks!
I noticed that you left out the construction and tapping for the nipple.
Yes... I missed a couple of things by forgetting to film, or to press record after setting up the camera... :-(
How do you securely put those prices together?
SugarcreekForge is drilling a hole and sticking it in the hole tight enough or is there a sealant you used?
Great work, I would love to see a follow up if you decide to give it a finish. loved the song by the way.
Thanks, Floyd!
Its somehow has a 17th Century look to it🤔🤔🤔
I kind of modeled it after a pistol from the English civil war. So you are right on with the time frame.
very cool if you made one where i live you can go to prison for 10 years and huge fines
:-( Wow...
Where the hell is that? Please don't say California.
Australia Robby Lombardo
+blob zee Oh pff. Of course. But yeah, California would probably be very unamused by something like this as well.
+Robby Lombardo Actually, a Californian myself (someone has to stay behind occupied lines), there are almost no laws regarding muzzleloading firearms in the state (certainly not any about manufacture; there are which make them act like regular firearms when it comes to carry and use though, as well as creating shipping restrictions on actual bp). They haven't gotten around to legislating them tbh and would probably lose some political capital if they did. The doj (dept of justice) wouldn't mind taking them anyway and charging you for whatever if they feel like it, but that goes for anything with them.
i agree with the freedom comment. good grief them boys in the Revolutionary war didnt have 2000 dollar guns and that was some impressive work! that my friends is AMERICA!!!!!!
:-)
To America and her craftsmen
very cool. why have a semi auto ar-15 when you can have glorious muzzle loader
Haha, indeed! And you can make it at home :-)
that is so cool now I want to make one
ПРОБИЛ ДОСКУ ИЛИ НЕТ ?
Hey great video can you give me permission to see the plans
Yes, sir! Thanks
Um so with your hammer itcomes down hits nipple and cap like normal but bith that bolt did you drill straigh down to the middle the drill long ways in or how does fle spark travel from the nipple to the powder though the bolt i
What diameter is the barrel and barrel liner?
It is about 36 caliber
this man’s got Napoleon proud
Haha, thanks Liam
Must be nice to have all those tools available to play around with.
It really is. It took me awhile to get them. I made knives, sold them, saved up the money and slowly bought tools. Have a great week!
What "all those tools" are you talking about? He built the thing with NOTHING! This is a great demonstration that you can build a weapon with nothing but a drill and a file!
What was the total cost of the Materials? Awesome project by the way
Thank you very much. I am guessing $20
Thank you very much I finally found the link for templates, keep up the great work
thats sweet , i was going to buy my own but i dont have 1500 bucks, i might copy your design
Thanks, buddy. Go for it :-)
Why did you not varnish the wood?
I wanted it to clearly be plywood :-) Kind of post apocalyptic meets backyard tinkerer
Love that music track
Thanks, buddy :-)
What song
Who thumbs down this?. Come on already. This is how freedoms were won.
Thanks :-)
anti Gun folks i guess
the music was overbearing
Icy Uranus Yeah....This guy is really strange, for example......His taste in music for one. Secondly his channel is called Sugar Creek forge, which sounds okay BUT this fella has the skills of a dead wildebeest! He's meant to be a blade smith? Don't make me laugh! He cannot sharpen a frigging chisel! The gun looked like it was made by a retarded ten year old....just like everything else he attempts.
It's cute really.....those merry cans, even when they know they are shit at things, they keep on trying (and failing at EVERYTHING!) It's kinda like they (including the author) enjoy being the butt of the world's jokes. I mean, who gives themselves the choice of Trump/Clinton? Only in America lol, poor deluded dumb fucks ha ha ha ha
*Sigh*
that was absolutely amazing congratulations dude most homemade guns look like some cobbled-together pipe bombs this though actually look like a professional kit
Thanks very much for your kind words. That is what encourages me to keep making videos. Have a great weekend!
Charles Driggers I agree with you.
Thank you, Mark. I am glad that you like it.
$20 in parts and $20,000 in tools.
Lol - Not quite that much in tools. You could do this build with hand tools w/o much problem
incedible build/ . thank you. i am not clear how you built the primer chamber/nipple. if you can clarify that would be appeciated.
How did you block the barrel
Hi! I tapped threads into the back of the barrel and then screwed in a small section of a bolt.
Nice work. Love Shakey Graves
That's beauty of a musket-gun. I would sand the edges at bottom a little bit more to make the wooden parts rounder like the ones made by historic gun makers. Will start a similar project in my coming freetime. Will go for a flintlock instead.
Thanks, Paul. That is a good pointer. Please keep me posted on your progress. I have been wanting to make a flintlock sometime too.
Improvised firearms are an art
True that, Dave. And making them is fun and stress relieving! Have a great week.
What if I just took a pipe and blocked off one end then put black powder down the barrel then lead shot then lit a fuse
The shitty music is more deadly than the end product.
It is impressive to see what some people can create. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for taking the time to leave me an encouraging comment. I really appreciate that.
Really sweet man.was that solder or braze on the barrel band.
Thanks. It was solder
Might be easier to have just bought a commercial barrel with drum
Amazing work sir, congratulations. What did you use for a percussion cap? Did you make the spring? I really like the music as well. Do you have a playlist? Ahhh….I see it above,thanks
Hi Michael - Thank you. I am glad that you enjoyed the videos. I made some percussion out of aluminum foil and paper toy gun caps, but I am able to buy percussion caps very cheaply. I bought the springs and only had to modify one of them for the trigger return spring.
Shakey Graves nice choice
Thanks, Drew
A typical solution to the problem in a rustic way.
Yes. Thanks :-)
That's a nice self build. Brother the patch goes between the powder and ball not last. Unless your using a way smaller ball than the barrel to keep pressure down and need the patch to hold it in there lol. A old sheet cut into round patches that when the ball is seated in the muzzle it covers half the ball is good. Take and lube the patch and it'll make ramming the ball easier. Folks forget a black power Well Pyrodex is damn accurate on out there. If one uses Black powder You will forget what you was shootin at by the time the smoke clears. Pyrodex pistol or The rifle powder burns cleaner less smoke and easier cleaning. Nice Kentucky ish pistol all the same
Thanks for your kind words and encouragement, Steven. Yes, I used a much smaller ball (slug actually) and I wanted it to stay back against the powder.
dont use steel for bullets, it can create sparks and fire on its own
Great!.. #679 🐄🦉✝
Thank you
Is there any way you could link me to a parts list? I wasn't able to quite tell what everything was from the video, but will give it a few more years. Thanks! Great gun!
I don't have a parts list, but if you look in the description I have a link to some of the parts I drew
Great pistol !!! Bravo! It's a pity that because of such a hobby we cut trees for 4 years for free ####)). Hello from Russia! )
Thank you very much, Strelok35 :-)
Knew I heard shakey as soon as the video started. I listen to his music while out in the country and on the road and I am filled with the most magical feeling I could be filled with. The feeling of nostalgia, and the unmistakable feeling of being truly content. Whenever I have an issue, I go listen to him while creating something amazing with my time, and I will definitely roll the bones while I build my first musket.
That is so cool, Daniel. Keep me posted on your progress.
did you do any rifling to the pipe?
No
You might want to grap that torch and a bucket of water and harden the strike point on your hammer, or it's going to end up with dints in it from use and it will eventually fail.
Thanks for the good tip. I actually drilled a cup into the hammer that surrounds most of the nipple.
Good!
Спасибо :-)
Question. What kind of bolt was that breach plug at the rear of the barrel made of? Did you have to thread the inside of the barrel to put that in there?
Hi Robert. I just used a common bolt. I didn't want to use one that was hard. I did thread the inside of the barrel. I just used a hand tap and got a few nice turns of the threads.
Very impressive - I think some mahogany would have looked better.
Thank you. You are very right. I just thought it would be fun to use everything from that store. So... It became plywood :-)
It looks like a Harpers Ferry pistol..... a percussion and out of Flintlock
Thanks, Wayne. I will look for photos of one and check it out.
Did you weld the bolt on the back of the barrel or is it just screwed in really really well? I want to do something simulair But dont have a welder and just hammering the back of the barrel closed is not to safe in my experience
I just screwed it in tight
@@SugarcreekForge ill try it
Cant even load a full pound of blackpowder and fire it without a problem what a fail!
Lol... I guess I did fail at doing that :-)
how did you make the powder pan?
skipped that step
Any tips on that as I am not normally a black powder enthusiast and usually stick to my Semi-Auto pistol caliber parts kits.
Excellent vid and the music... outstanding! could you go back and un-skip the pan? I'm assuming it's using a cap, but the connection is unclear. I think I want to make one.
No pan on percussion guns.
Hi Lance - sorry for the slow reply. It is a percussion cap system. I cut the head off of a small screw and then drilled down through the center of it. I tapered it slightly to accept a percussion cap. The hammer hits the cap and the sparks travel through that hole into the chamber and ignite the powder.
Great, now i need to do all of this without any machinery...ohh dear me
I understand how you feel :-) But, it can be done with hand tools - it just takes longer. Have a great weekend and good luck to you!
i actually like the but i have to say MUSIC IS TERRIBLE!
Thank you! Sorry about that...
Hermano se que probablemente este sea el primer comentario en español en este video y definitivamente tengo que decir tu trabajo como armero es hermoso y me gustaría saber por que máquinas manuales y mas baratas podria reemplazar las que usaste en tú y por último muchísimo ánimo para que sigas subiendo videos tan increíbles!!!.
Hola hermano, muchas gracias por dejarme tu comentario. Puede utilizar herramientas manuales sencillas como un taladro, una sierra para metales y limas. Sólo hace falta un poquito más de tiempo.
@@SugarcreekForge gracias amigo en realidad reitero mucho lo de eres sencillamente genial 🫂.
Other than your finger on the trigger in that end picture, good build and I'm glad I watched.
Thanks, Alonzo. If you look closely, that was during the build and the nipple is not installed. Completely inert at that stage. But, it is always good to keep fingers off the trigger. Have a great weekend.
Ahhhh, I see. No worries, then, I'm seriously thinking of building one of these for myself.
Wow i love your gun and how you made everything by hand! Well done. May i ask what and how you installed for the nipple for the percussion cap?
This video is awsome but i want one think to know whats the song in the back roud
It is music by Shakey Graves. There is info in the description
Impressive! American ingenuity and craftmanship! Bravo!
Thank you for the kind words, Nick :-)
What is the name of this hexagonal part that is used as a nipple?
It is a screw and the hex part is just a nut that threads on to it
The only question i have is how do i get the powder so go off when i pull the triger i have it moving but how to i make a spark ?
Hi. The hammer hits a percussion cap that is placed over the nipple. That causes the percussion cap to fire sparks down through the hole in the nipple into the barrel where it ignites the black powder.
@@SugarcreekForge thank you
That was really great. Thanks for sharing.
great video love the music
Thanks, John!
was that a live round? do you need a live round for this?
Hi Isaiah. I am not exactly sure what you mean by "live round". It was a small safe charge of black powder and a .38 lead bullet. The priming cap ignited real powder and the bullet fired out - so that was a live round I guess you would say. I could fire it with simple wadding on top of the powder and it would just go "bang". So I wouldn't have to fire a projectile. I hope that answers what you were asking?
Considering the amount of reasonably sophisticated equipment needed I don't see these guns being mass produced or turning up in large numbers. Nice project though .
nice gun but can i ask you how can i make a toy cap gun musket able to put the caps on and it will not be destroyed because when i fire it once the piece of metal of whatever the nipple is made out of flattens and i cannot put a cap in anymore i would like some help with this if you need me to explain it to you better just tell me and we can set up a zoom call or something like that
I made mine out of a metal screw. I drilled straight through the center of it. That way I had threads on the bottom for it to screw into the gun. Then I filed it to a cone shape that a cap would fit over.
@@SugarcreekForge ok thx for responding to all these comments even 6 years later
@@alexanderthegreat3591 You are very welcome!
I have no idea what this music is and it certainly not my normal genre. Somehow I find it alluring. Very bluegrass-y folk sound.
Thanks, SS. It was so odd and alluring to me too. I then wrote to him and asked for permission to use it in my video. He wrote right back and told me he would be honored if I used it. He is a great guy
SugarcreekForge that’s awesome. Really enjoying this build series. You’re a new find for me on RUclips. It’s great when two cool things come together! Appreciate the response!
Thanks for the kind words and taking time to leave a comment. Have a great weekend. Tim
I really liked your video. However I was wondering how exactly the explosion from the cap got into the barrel. Is it like a flintlock where you just drilled a hole into the side of the gun?
Thanks for the encouragement! It is a percussion cap-fired system. So, I threaded a screw into a tapped hole in the barrel. I drilled a little hole down through the center of that screw. So the hammer hits the cap which is placed over the screw with the hole in it. When it goes off, the sparks go down that hole and into the barrel.
@@SugarcreekForge so like, there's a little bit of a turn in the vent? i was wondering if that would still work if there was a turn
Y@@UnKnown-so5wk Yes, it does
thank you!@@SugarcreekForge
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Early Led Zeppelin vibe to this tune.
True! I didn't think of that
nice job Captain Bliye , nice job.
that's so cool! what a great project!
kind of annoying music though...
Thanks, Kyle. I like indie music... :-)
Nice build...music sucks.
Is this what they mean by "bolt action"? :D
Haha! I guess so :-)
That smile at the end of the vid... great vid!
+juan manuel marchioli Thanks, Juan
Cool vid ...weird background music
Haha, thanks. I know, right?
HUGE SAFETY ISSUE!
The patch goes around the bullet, not in front of it as that can become a barrel obstruction resulting in a detonated barrel, as in a bad KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the tip. I put a piece of a paper towel in to keep the undersized bullet from falling out of the barrel. It can't generate that kind of pressure in that situation. Much the same way that black powder shotguns are loaded: charge, wadding, shot, wadding. But for a regular load, you are absolutely right.
Brazing brass is better than soldering as it can be polished down to look like one solid piece.
I thought you did a fine job with that pistol.
Thanks very much, Aaron. I appreciate you taking the time to leave me an encouraging comment.
Interesting video... But as I know, at the time of percussion pistols there were no coil springs.
I love it but that music kinda creep me out
Sorry, dude... I am glad you liked it though. Thanks
If I owned a metal lathe, something a little more modern would be coming out the back door of my shop.
I hear you, brother ;-)
I hear you, brother ;-)
@@SugarcreekForge I worked in a die repair shop years ago. The only thing that kept me from manufacturing what I really wanted was Federal laws prohibiting it. I'm just too pretty to go to prison.
How does the blackpowder ignite ? From what i`ve seen the hammer just goes on a nut. (Sorry for incorrect terms etc. I´m from Germany)
It has a small bolt and a nut on it. I drilled a hole through the center of the bolt so the spark can reach the powder.
Oh ok I see. Thx for the reply.
What size cap? 10 or 11?
I used 11 because that is what I had.
Хороший пистолет получился, прям как у Джека Воробья и даже как у капитана Флинта ☝️🌞👍.
The part that was holding barrel was blown away when you shoted it
No. I just used a photo I took with it at the end of the video. It was while I was fitting the part :-) I shot the video a day or two after I took that last photo.
@@SugarcreekForge oh ok
Ahhhh freedom....protect it well. If you were to do that project here it would be a crime.
+AussieMark909 Thanks for the admonition, Mark! Very timely....