How doesn't this not have millions of views? Even in 2020 not many cars will go over 220mph and still get 28mpg on the highway. John is a true legend in the automotive world.
I still like the C5 Corvette better than the C6 and C7 models. I would love to just drive one of these rare cars much less own one. Maybe one day I will get my chance, RIP John Lingenfelter.
650HP on only 8 psi of boost. That's very good efficiency. The current ZR1 makes 638HP on 12 psi. Lingenfelter was THE MAN when it came to making horsepower with modern fuel injected engines.
@@bluesky-ud9wg good point but it’s still amazing that goring that time he was making that power and ET.. imagine half mile or mile. I bet it would shut up many hellcats and the like
If I ever get it together for a good build I think this is what I would do.. that is copy this build. I don’t see needing more. If you are roasting slicks…
Lingenfelter Performance pioneered GM's performance to what it is today. Callaway was a competitor but could not get the backing they needed to progress. If John Lingenfelter was alive today, I think the current Vettes and Camaros would be different and maybe even better. LPE was in that grasp until he passed. Such a sad outcome even though he died in what he loved most. Jim Scoutten and TNN did some awesome things back in the day. Mad respect and RIP to a legend.
I know you miss John. I think of him every time I drive my twin turbo built by him. He was a very nice man. And he knew more about engines than almost anyone.
Great to see all the positive, respectful comments about John. I never met him, unfortunately, EVERYTHING I have ever seen, read or heard about him, this Man was not only a pioneer and an innovator he was a legitimate class act. If you own a corvette & know anything about corvette performance you know the Lingenfelter name
A friend of mine had one of these. He had a full Chevy racing suspension installed, the brake package, etc... it was an insane ride. The rolling 40MPH to 100+ was like the blink of an eye. Really fun car.
Amen. John was a great man. A true gentleman. I think about him everytime I drive my Lingenfelter Twin Turbo #7. John himself had his hand in building my car.
What an incredible machine! It's actually faster than the new 638 HP C6 ZR1!! Motor Trend ran 11.2 @ 130.5 in 1/4 with a 0-60 in 3.3 & a 0-100 in 6.9 with the ZR1. So this Lingenfelter starts to walk away from the ZR1 after 100 mph. I'd love to take this baby for a spin! R.I.P J.L =(
Met John in 1977 at Capitol Raceway. He was match racing Ricky Smith in super comp. John had 67 Nova. it would mortally fly. when he came off the line I could have walked under the front wheels .
maximaman380 soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much
Anybody know of the video they did of the Stage 1 LPE vette? I am specifically asking about that song that is in the background. They used it for another video for C&D.
I was a.... "Sales Manager" at a dealership on the Northside of Houston, Texas decades ago.. :). "WE" had a Lingenfelter Twin Turbo Vette on the showroom floor. It had maybe 14 miles on the odometer.. "We" raced that all over Houston, including the beltway (back then)... It still only had 14 miles on the odometer when it sold.. :). One of the coolest cars I drove back then...
What Lingenfelter was doing in the late 90's and early 2000's would still be competitive today, he was ahead of his time. But even more so, his cars were bulletproof reliable and so clean.
yup in 1988 he drove and pushed the callaway corvette tt sledgehammer beast to 255 mph...20 yrs ago and there is barely 2 cars that has acomplished this 20 fucken yrs later..vettes are the best !
"There's a point, seven thousand RPM, where everything fades. The machine becomes weightless, just disappears. And all that's left is a body moving through space and time. Seven thousand RPM. That's where you meet it. It asks you a question. The only question that matters. Who are you? ~Carroll Shelby
@iPROFITDON and even if it was impossible, i do not think the limitation would be gearing.... i think the Corvette Lingefelter ZO-6 may have the right gearing to do it. not all cars have the same gearing, so to say just beacuse the Venum Viper or the, Ford GT can't do it beacuse they redline, it does not mean the Corvette Lingenfelter ZO-6 cant. the issue here would be how long the tires would last, they would probably be toast... and with the right tires and gearing its a good chance.
Father had one of these, #28 (#18? maybe? I don't recall). Was a green car, home was back in Waukesha County, WI. Prior he had an 85', with a 420cid Lingenfelter engine, Carroll Supercharging Paxton super charger. - I drove that two tone blue 85' car to a 11.79 in the quarter (with drag radials on the stock 16" wheels out back). It would bust the Goodyear GSC 275's at 70mph on the freeway. I would drive that car all day long with no anti-lock, no traction/stability. THIS CAR... This car scared me. entered the freeway from hwy 164 on to interstate 94 in THIRD GEAR rolling from about 25mph. I hit 92mph before I could finish saying "holy shit!" That car scared me, I really didn't enjoy that driving that car, left that one to my dad. RIP dad. He sold it back in 2004 - 2005? I think? I can't recall.
I think I've seen the more recent car you're referring to for sale. It has had it's fair share of owners over the years and last time I saw had around 80k miles. I bet it was a blast to drive. If I were to ever own one I'd be very careful on who I let service mine.
@@Texas_Cruiser He knew the owner of what used to be an Oldsmobile dealership in Milwaukee. Arrow Oldsmobile. They turned to Brookfield POntiac (before going all Hyundai). It had pretty decent miles on it when he sold it. It had been on several out west road trips.
Sorry, it may be the fastest recorded by those guys. It’s not the first street car however, the first street car is the Chevrolet Corvette back in 1988 when Callaway put his twin turbos on a stock, Corvette drove it all the way up to the track went 254 mph and drove it all the way homestill 225 miles an hour back in 2001 cars today. Can’t go that fast. These guys are awesome with their Corvettes.
@iPROFITDON first... i do not think the Corvette Lingenfelter ZO-6 with all that power would use a stock transmission, second, who says the Corvette Lingenfelter ZO-6s top speed is achieved with 5th gear? i don't see any records of that... im going to PM you and enplane this a little better than i can with only 500 characters...
@angryace13 Gearing is a major issue. When I say the same way I mean 6th gear. Even with 1300rwhp with gearing long enough to get to 226mph in 5th, 6th is too tall to pull. I used the Viper and Ford GT as an example because they both have that overdrive 6th used to get highway millage, they all reach top speed in 5th effectively. The ZR1 an exception. It would need extremely long 1-5 gears to attempt 300mph. Race transmissions is a different story :}
@iPROFITDON well thats not exactly impossible, i find it more than possible, with 1,300 Rear wheel HP? thats a lot of power! the Corvette Sledgehammer made its top speed record of nearly 255MPH with only 850-900HP... this car gets 1,300HP on race fuel, and 1,518BHP with 28LB Boost in addition to race fuel. it is probably more Aerodynamic than the sledgehammer was in addition to that.
Searched this up because there is a ligenfelter twin turbo c5 for sale near me its a stage 1 550 hp with 30k miles and clean its a 2002 the man wants 18k for it, he also has all the paperwork for it and all i have a supercharged c6 grandsport, so i wont be getting it but for the money its a good deal.
He must have never shown all the times he blew up the differentials into c5's in the early C6 is even with all the DTE braces and built differentials back then they would just detonate off the line in the quarter mile the thing that stopped in was the rear end Mount that went across the whole cradle that helped big time from these differentials exploding bias ply tires
I wish Jeremy Clarkson would have tested this car back in the day. It would have been sweet cakes to see the look on his face when he mashes his foot on the floor. But knowing Jeremy, he'll probably still find something wrong with it. But it will take him a hell of a long time to do so.
@angryace13 The difference in aerodynamic drag at 255mph and 300mph is massive. Think the what, 1200hp SS built for top speed, more aerodynamic than a Corvette tapped at 267mph. Besides the fact that the a Z06 would have a pretty good chance at going airborne before 300mph. Not to mention they have trouble keeping the engine healthy doing mile runs, a run to 300 might be a bit much. But, I take that back, nothing is impossible, just highly doubtful .
lol they had to run it at the strip with 16 psi tires. Your basically driving with flat tires, imagine the friction and power to push that car. Better if they added drag tires and order the largest tire you can or special rear rims that would hold a bigger tire.
Look's like me coming from the California state line, a Friday night bout 10 pm, back in 09, me an a infinity g35 getting by the whole freeway, back ta Vegas!, we doing 130, an my cousin said let him have it!, so I floored it in my hopped up 92 vette, an left that dude, like he was standing still!, couldn't see him in my rearview mirror in 10 seconds!, let off the throttle at 181, would've topped out at about 185!!!
While I try to learn something everyday, acquiring useless information is not a very high priority. You are interested in past Toyota products. It is good that one specializes in at least one subject. However, I question your comment "It is in English dumbass [I added the capital letter in my ignorance]". This particular product [Supra] was designed in Japan by Japanese. Japan got its numbering system from Chinese. Chinese got theirs from India. We also got ours from India. Checkmate.
How doesn't this not have millions of views? Even in 2020 not many cars will go over 220mph and still get 28mpg on the highway.
John is a true legend in the automotive world.
RIP john you were the first corvette tuner and made the corvette what it is performance wise is today.
don't forget the Callaway Sledghammer from the middle 80's
@@chemicalspore oh yeah absolutely!
20 years later, and i still dreaming about this car. 😥
Go get one stupid cheap now lol
I still like the C5 Corvette better than the C6 and C7 models. I would love to just drive one of these rare cars much less own one. Maybe one day I will get my chance,
RIP John Lingenfelter.
Bet u won’t say tha now with c8 out lol
650HP on only 8 psi of boost. That's very good efficiency. The current ZR1 makes 638HP on 12 psi. Lingenfelter was THE MAN when it came to making horsepower with modern fuel injected engines.
And this c5 also has a higher top speed compared to the C6 ZR1.
Turbos are much more efficient than any blower
@@bluesky-ud9wg good point but it’s still amazing that goring that time he was making that power and ET.. imagine half mile or mile. I bet it would shut up many hellcats and the like
If I ever get it together for a good build I think this is what I would do.. that is copy this build. I don’t see needing more. If you are roasting slicks…
Turbo power vs supercharger parasitic power loss.
Lingenfelter Performance pioneered GM's performance to what it is today. Callaway was a competitor but could not get the backing they needed to progress. If John Lingenfelter was alive today, I think the current Vettes and Camaros would be different and maybe even better. LPE was in that grasp until he passed. Such a sad outcome even though he died in what he loved most. Jim Scoutten and TNN did some awesome things back in the day. Mad respect and RIP to a legend.
Shout out to Jim Scoutten, you sir made the end of the TNN reign, most memorable!
+B Ross Yes he did.
yep
Scoutten was the burn out king in those days too!
I know you miss John. I think of him every time I drive my twin turbo built by him. He was a very nice man. And he knew more about engines than almost anyone.
Great Car. Great Voice. Loved watching the Car and Driver show every week.
Great to see all the positive, respectful comments about John. I never met him, unfortunately, EVERYTHING I have ever seen, read or heard about him, this Man was not only a pioneer and an innovator he was a legitimate class act. If you own a corvette & know anything about corvette performance you know the Lingenfelter name
A friend of mine had one of these. He had a full Chevy racing suspension installed, the brake package, etc... it was an insane ride. The rolling 40MPH to 100+ was like the blink of an eye. Really fun car.
Miss this show.
Amen. John was a great man. A true gentleman. I think about him everytime I drive my Lingenfelter Twin Turbo #7. John himself had his hand in building my car.
John was amazing, Lingenfelter makes the most beastly cars in the world, I mean it is just crazy! R.I.P John Lingenfelter
if you live in the states your clue should be the TNN logo in the top corner. That station hasn't been around for over 10 years.
What an incredible machine! It's actually faster than the new 638 HP C6 ZR1!!
Motor Trend ran 11.2 @ 130.5 in 1/4 with a 0-60 in 3.3 & a 0-100 in 6.9 with the ZR1. So this Lingenfelter starts to walk away from the ZR1 after 100 mph. I'd love to take this baby for a spin! R.I.P J.L =(
Reeves Callaway built a Corvette in 1988 with a twin turbo 350 that ran 254 mph.
i love this guys thinking.
That's was the coolest ever when it came out. I'm in the market for that car right now.
Met John in 1977 at Capitol Raceway. He was match racing Ricky Smith in super comp. John had 67 Nova. it would mortally fly. when he came off the line I could have walked under the front wheels
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I have the stage one on tape but not the stage 2 one
Does anyone have John drag vidéo ?
the most amazing thing is: no crazy spoilers etc needed like the import cars;)
c5 had such good aerodynamics! Way better coefficient of drag than the c6
handling was night and day tho.
mesamike c5s have sooooo much more body roll. granted coilovers can fix that
Andre Hicks sooo much? Seriously?
maximaman380 soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much
mesamike yeah my 2002 zo6 handles just as well..
Anybody know of the video they did of the Stage 1 LPE vette? I am specifically asking about that song that is in the background. They used it for another video for C&D.
I was a.... "Sales Manager" at a dealership on the Northside of Houston, Texas decades ago.. :). "WE" had a Lingenfelter Twin Turbo Vette on the showroom floor. It had maybe 14 miles on the odometer.. "We" raced that all over Houston, including the beltway (back then)... It still only had 14 miles on the odometer when it sold.. :). One of the coolest cars I drove back then...
Wow that's awesome 👍👍👍
Who else watched this when it came out and still wants a lingenfelter?
Any one knows how I can get my hands on this video on DVD or even better quality? I know his daughter and son in-law an I want to get it for them.
What Lingenfelter was doing in the late 90's and early 2000's would still be competitive today, he was ahead of his time. But even more so, his cars were bulletproof reliable and so clean.
yup in 1988 he drove and pushed the callaway corvette tt sledgehammer beast to 255 mph...20 yrs ago and there is barely 2 cars that has acomplished this 20 fucken yrs later..vettes are the best !
Unreal!!
@HistoryKrell He's talking about the Supra. Which this Lingenfelter Corvette will eat alive.
I miss him. I really wish he didn't have to pass away in that NHRA accident
RIP John
@rodneyrick: I do not understand. You are possibly at the wrong U-Tube video.
My full text I do not think was shown. He had a magic touch. I thought he was industructable.
The V-tec kicked in yo!
"There's a point, seven thousand RPM, where everything fades. The machine becomes weightless, just disappears. And all that's left is a body moving through space and time. Seven thousand RPM. That's where you meet it. It asks you a question. The only question that matters. Who are you?
~Carroll Shelby
what a car!
@iPROFITDON
and even if it was impossible, i do not think the limitation would be gearing.... i think the Corvette Lingefelter ZO-6 may have the right gearing to do it. not all cars have the same gearing, so to say just beacuse the Venum Viper or the, Ford GT can't do it beacuse they redline, it does not mean the Corvette Lingenfelter ZO-6 cant. the issue here would be how long the tires would last, they would probably be toast... and with the right tires and gearing its a good chance.
1988 corvette callaway sledgehammer did 254mph
Father had one of these, #28 (#18? maybe? I don't recall). Was a green car, home was back in Waukesha County, WI. Prior he had an 85', with a 420cid Lingenfelter engine, Carroll Supercharging Paxton super charger. - I drove that two tone blue 85' car to a 11.79 in the quarter (with drag radials on the stock 16" wheels out back). It would bust the Goodyear GSC 275's at 70mph on the freeway. I would drive that car all day long with no anti-lock, no traction/stability. THIS CAR... This car scared me. entered the freeway from hwy 164 on to interstate 94 in THIRD GEAR rolling from about 25mph. I hit 92mph before I could finish saying "holy shit!" That car scared me, I really didn't enjoy that driving that car, left that one to my dad. RIP dad. He sold it back in 2004 - 2005? I think? I can't recall.
I think I've seen the more recent car you're referring to for sale. It has had it's fair share of owners over the years and last time I saw had around 80k miles. I bet it was a blast to drive. If I were to ever own one I'd be very careful on who I let service mine.
@@Texas_Cruiser He knew the owner of what used to be an Oldsmobile dealership in Milwaukee. Arrow Oldsmobile. They turned to Brookfield POntiac (before going all Hyundai). It had pretty decent miles on it when he sold it. It had been on several out west road trips.
@@Vekurus glad it's been driven! If I ever get my hands on it I'll be sure to let you know.
Great looking vette 🖒.
I own a black c-5 convertible I hope to someday have it gone through by ligenfelter engineering!
I have the last TT Vett that Jhon drove and I have the video of me and him at the track with it
@@dshow1658 WOW ! that's pretty amazing!!
Lmfao @ the "warning" in the end to viper and z06 owners.
The video is 10 years old.
Sorry, it may be the fastest recorded by those guys. It’s not the first street car however, the first street car is the Chevrolet Corvette back in 1988 when Callaway put his twin turbos on a stock, Corvette drove it all the way up to the track went 254 mph and drove it all the way homestill 225 miles an hour back in 2001 cars today. Can’t go that fast. These guys are awesome with their Corvettes.
The Sledgehammer was a one off. John L sold these TTC5s to who ever wanted one.
But the "regular" Callaways were damn good.... With a warranty.
@angryace13 300mph would be where it gears out in 6th, though that would literally be impossible. Vipers and Ford GTs are the same way.
@iPROFITDON
first... i do not think the Corvette Lingenfelter ZO-6 with all that power would use a stock transmission, second, who says the Corvette Lingenfelter ZO-6s top speed is achieved with 5th gear? i don't see any records of that...
im going to PM you and enplane this a little better than i can with only 500 characters...
@shjesus
and it gets faster, the Corvette Lingenfelter ZO-6 has a top speed of estimated 300MPH on race fuel, and 226MPH in a standing mile...
It sounds like a Jet! My 01 looks almost the same, minus the wheels and the hundreds and hundreds etc less horse power.
@angryace13 Gearing is a major issue. When I say the same way I mean 6th gear. Even with 1300rwhp with gearing long enough to get to 226mph in 5th, 6th is too tall to pull. I used the Viper and Ford GT as an example because they both have that overdrive 6th used to get highway millage, they all reach top speed in 5th effectively. The ZR1 an exception. It would need extremely long 1-5 gears to attempt 300mph. Race transmissions is a different story :}
@iPROFITDON
well thats not exactly impossible, i find it more than possible, with 1,300 Rear wheel HP? thats a lot of power! the Corvette Sledgehammer made its top speed record of nearly 255MPH with only 850-900HP... this car gets 1,300HP on race fuel, and 1,518BHP with 28LB Boost in addition to race fuel. it is probably more Aerodynamic than the sledgehammer was in addition to that.
Damn why does the video look so old?
Searched this up because there is a ligenfelter twin turbo c5 for sale near me its a stage 1 550 hp with 30k miles and clean its a 2002 the man wants 18k for it, he also has all the paperwork for it and all i have a supercharged c6 grandsport, so i wont be getting it but for the money its a good deal.
He must have never shown all the times he blew up the differentials into c5's in the early C6 is even with all the DTE braces and built differentials back then they would just detonate off the line in the quarter mile the thing that stopped in was the rear end Mount that went across the whole cradle that helped big time from these differentials exploding bias ply tires
Over 650HP an 220+MPH only on 8lbs of boost 😱😲 ! How much for this bad boy now ! Ohhh weee 🤙🚗💨💨😎
@vfIskullangel: Please translate (into english).
I wish Jeremy Clarkson would have tested this car back in the day. It would have been sweet cakes to see the look on his face when he mashes his foot on the floor. But knowing Jeremy, he'll probably still find something wrong with it. But it will take him a hell of a long time to do so.
@HistoryKrell I wasn't speaking Japanese.
💪
4:40 keep the hands of the car
Very fast for the time but my supersnake will still windows
@HistoryKrell the 2JZ is the engine code of some Supra engine... he means that his Lingenfelter will crush the Toyota Supra with a 2JZ engine...
my dad has this excact car just with out the tiwn turbos and its not a hard top
@angryace13 The difference in aerodynamic drag at 255mph and 300mph is massive. Think the what, 1200hp SS built for top speed, more aerodynamic than a Corvette tapped at 267mph. Besides the fact that the a Z06 would have a pretty good chance at going airborne before 300mph. Not to mention they have trouble keeping the engine healthy doing mile runs, a run to 300 might be a bit much. But, I take that back, nothing is impossible, just highly doubtful .
0-120 baby.
That's insane to drive that fast, a stray bird would send you into tumble weed status...
and it comes with a warranty.
Hi, I'm Troy McClure.....
😊
Jim Scoutten now just talks about guns...
Crying shame, he was one of the best car commentators...
$105k was a bargain. Slayer!
yea
lol they had to run it at the strip with 16 psi tires. Your basically driving with flat tires, imagine the friction and power to push that car. Better if they added drag tires and order the largest tire you can or special rear rims that would hold a bigger tire.
🔥
This would kill all including GT000, ZR1, GTR u name it
Millenium yellow as chevy called that proper color.
Look's like me coming from the California state line, a Friday night bout 10 pm, back in 09, me an a infinity g35 getting by the whole freeway, back ta Vegas!, we doing 130, an my cousin said let him have it!, so I floored it in my hopped up 92 vette, an left that dude, like he was standing still!, couldn't see him in my rearview mirror in 10 seconds!, let off the throttle at 181, would've topped out at about 185!!!
Not much to see under the hood...
Just a Big Ass Engine
The only thing that beats this is a TT Ford GT or a TT Gallardo...
@meadowz06 lucky fellow
I forgot about TNN haha.
I could make way over 900 hp with $105,000 and a corvette just give me a C5 Z06 for $20-25,000 rest is for the motor...and not turbos needed
Bring it 2JZ!.
Christmas, really!?!
still cost way less than any supercar.
This is a pretty solid troll right here. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't impressed.
You're trying to get around the fact that it was, in fact, in English.
to bad his cousin ken is getting rich off his hard work
While I try to learn something everyday, acquiring useless information is not a very high priority. You are interested in past Toyota products. It is good that one specializes in at least one subject.
However, I question your comment "It is in English dumbass [I added the capital letter in my ignorance]". This particular product [Supra] was designed in Japan by Japanese. Japan got its numbering system from Chinese. Chinese got theirs from India. We also got ours from India.
Checkmate.
calloway twin tuebo went 254 mph look it up
...and built the engine.
@krocialblack oh yeah it will XD (japanese cars have all the technics, but who said raw power doesnt work?! XD)
Anyone ever own one? Tell us stories please. Anyone ever race one? Again stories please.
@HistoryKrell hahahaha I saw what you did there
I bet with an auto this is a 10.5 car and with auto and more tire/boost it’s high 9s all day and go from there larger turbos and high 8s
I saw a red C5 that he did that got a 9.2 and 0-60 in less than 2.
Crazy stuff for 20 years ago
This is easy mid to high 10 second car. Look at the trap speed.
It takes some balls to go 225 mph in a C5 😂
@shjesus OR LETS JUST SAY the GREAT CHEVY SMALL BLOCK THE BEST ENGINE EVER BUILT
So moral of the story is stock LS motor is a sin.
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