Climbing shoes are supposed to be small and they squish your feet. Climbing in them for awhile can make your feet hurt so climbers take their shoes off to give their feet a break.
Frfr that’s why I either wear Vibrams or just go unshod as to not damage my feet by getting bunions or hammertoes from the pointy things that they call “shoes”
@@ReDHaWkoeh, I wouldn’t say it’s *new* All sorts of minimalist hippies have been tooting the barefoot horn since the 60’s with dips and peaks of popularity. Nowadays it’s becoming monetized by products such as the Vibram toe shoes and others that promote full feet and toe spread so mainstream people feel allowed to tout those ideals.
Crazy is a good word to describe all the fools climbing mountains etc. Especially everest. Ppl who die there are just plain stupid and dumb ppl who should be laughed at and be forgotten.
Damn no hate but why climb mountains if you don’t want the risk ur gonna die from 600 feet anyway why not go as high as you can life is just so simple and great when ur 3000+ ft in the air with just you and the rock
yeah but also it’s not like they’re trying a new route that isn’t climbed normally. they climb stuff that’s climbed regularly to avoid this and they climb it a billion times with a rope
The most intersting thing about this clip is the belayer's hand getting sucked into the first piece of gear and then the first piece of gear getting sucked into the Grigri, that can 'defeat' the grigri. Luckily nothing happened.
@@PeterPan-vz7mk If my climbing partner took both hands off the rope, ever, we are done climbing together, this is the problem with gear like a GriGri if people haven't trained their fundamentals first, people get hurt
@@thisisgettingold yes, I totally agree on that in general. But I think you can't blame some one, who get's sucked into the wall, that their reflexes tell them to let go. I'm not even sure what my body would do after years of belaying. It's a small path we're on here.
for anyone who doesnt know what happened, the grigiri got pulled into the first piece and uncammed itself. there are 2 things you can do to avoid this: 1 have a hand on the rope behind your back with the rope to catch it and use like an atc for the first lil bit 2 once the next piece is clipped, you can undo the draw going through the anchor stay safe out there :)
Finally one to notice. Another possibility: Lower you belaying position towards the anchor you increase the distance to the draw and also give yourself dynamic room.
@@marcusstrymon693 Yeah, you can’t see what the placement’s like from this video but ideally, you’d want that bit of gear higher up but extended enough so the rope won’t drag round the corner. His belayer just looks like he’s in a bit of an awkward constricted stance with his brake hand in close to the wall. And yeah, he’d have been better positioned if he’d set himself up lower down in a hanging stance rather than standing on the ledge. Someone should collect stuff like this into a belaying errors playlist!
@adamatch9624 and then tensed up during the fall and almost ended up with a gnarled finger. Something to look out for when you're running through that first anchor draw
Ok, rock climber here. For all the bozos saying rock climbers are stupid, yes this isn’t ideal but the belayer caught the fall. This is multi-pitch climbing for all the people saying that he needs to have a rope for safety he does, in the first quick draw which has a personal anchor attached until you start climbing. Yes the belayer is barefoot, you don’t need shoes to belay it’s more comfortable to not however this is not in a gym so I would recommend shoes so he can be dynamic and jump on the cliff when taking or catching a fall. And lastly this is lead climbing, meaning that there is no rope that goes to the top than back down to the climber, the belayer gives slack as the climber clips him/her self into quick draws, so you expect a short fall before the slack gets used up and the belayer catches you.
so how is the belayer secured? couldn't he have been pulled down too in this incident? i watch all these climbing vids but i don't get the logistics of it. 😩
@@fernfunk most of the time on single pitch climbing they aren’t however multi pitch climbs (meaning that the climber has to move up in steps with the belayer) they usually secure themselves with a Petzl connect or a device of similar purpose. These devices let you comfortably stay connected to the wall and lay back to belay, while letting you adjust your slack and distance from wall. This is handy rather than using an anchor (which can be done) because it lets you jump to catch the climber. Hope this helps!
Many years ago as a dumb teenager this happened to me on an ocean side cliff. Wasn't using any equipment. Rock broke off in my hand and I felt like Wile E. Coyote. Had to push off the wall while falling to clear the rocks 30ft below. I landed safely but was scraped up and bleeding. I'm lucky to be alive. I don't climb anything these days other than ladders or coconut trees 🤙
Yeah, 30 feet is 3 stories... Given it would be a hard fall (as shown), even pushing off would be really difficult to land correctly... Maybe if you fell into some brush or trees it would soften but you're gonna have some broken bones at 30ft, if fortunate enough to have no head injury. Simple enough, climb with protection and a helmet. It's not fun to see someone get hurt climbing - it can ruin the experience for many around.
@@e.solano3963 i grew up around bouldering, inland and by the Pacific Ocean. The fall I remember most was clearly not serious or caused any injuries, but the speed it happened was almost like the speed of light. Gravity doesn't take a day off or slow down for anything.
JM did say it was an ocean side cliff, and cleared the rocks. Reads like the landing was in the water, so I don't know why anyone would have trouble with this story.
2 things we can learn from this: 1. Don't use Grigri in Multi pitch! It's ment to be used on the harness in sports climbing where you can move on the ground and give a soft catch. Using it from the anchor there are many ways how the locking mechanism can be disabled as we can see here. 2. Make sure the dummy runner is not too long! Glad it went well this time.
I've done it. If you get a bit too carefree while in cramped belay stance it can happen pretty quickly when your climber falls. Fortunately it seems to result in a rope bite, not a full on deglove or anything like that.
@@derekcraig3617 he didn't though. You see his guid hand get wrecked and hes holding his hand all funny cause I'm sure it hurts. But right before you hear the guy say something to the other you see the beleyers right hand coming back to grip the break side
Well if you've ever climbed a multi pitch climb 99% chance your taking your shoes of while belaying. Being in climbing shoes for hours at a time in awkward position sucks
That sling didn't need to be extended. It should be above and away from the belayer. As it's setup, it serves no purpose but to get sucked into the grigri to make a factor 2 fall even more dangerous. You guys got lucky.
Most of its junk, but I actually learn a lot out of the comment sections when veteran climbers can find small things to point out, but yes, 99% is junk lol
@@dereks7061 If you watch at 0.25 speed you will see the the GRIGRI did not catch the fall but the blayer did because the GRIGRI was pulled aginst the caribiner and did not lock.
@@jbbolts Ummm.. 5.9 to a 5.1(0) is a decrease of .8 For a 5.9 to increase, it would go to a 6.0, assuming we're jumping by tenths. I believe you were thinking of 5.09 to a 5.1 So, yeah.. that's how decimals work.
Nah, that’s a microstructure break. The last last thing you want when climbing is a macrostructure break because that can cut ropes or the face you’re climbing can collapse to the ground!
And that's why I'll probably not free solo a wall ever unless i have to escape something. You can do everything perfectly and still fall to your death on no fault of your own except being foolish enough to think your skill makes you invincible.
It's not the same thing at all. This guy was not doing what looked to be a traveled road. If you're free soloing you're climbing well within your comfort zone. This guy was making hard moves on uncertain terrain.
@@slpguy6026 And he didn't even grab the brake end AFTER he dropped the rope and left his friends life to the grigri. I hope the climber watched the video later and learned to NEVER climb with that belayer again.
Crazy part was the guys hand getting sucked in because he was holding the rope too tight and had absolutely no headroom. Always need to pay attention to headroom.
- Hand not on brake strand. - Hand close to first piece after Grigri - Grigri way to close to first peace - Rather don't belay from body on mp + Bonus Points for wearing helmets :)
Literally was going to comment this. That Gri Gri cam bumping the redirect 😳. But luckily they are 700 feet up, so as long they got the ends tied, he would only take a huge wip.
@marcus Matthias why wouldn't you belay from the body? These guys are trad climbing, so taking as little shock to the belay anchors as possible is desirable. Belaying from the body will allow the belayer to take some of the shock rather than it all go to the anchor points.
@@goodall18 mainly due to where the redirect is. Since it was so close, the belayer got pulled into the redirect, making the Gri Gri's cam to disengage. This allowed the climber to fall 2-3x the distance. If you look at the end of the video, the Gri Gri is pressured against the carabineer. Also, this system has multiple single point failures. If they belayed from a properly set up trad anchor, there would be two to three failure points, and the load would be distributed across multiple pieces. A properly set up tread anchor can handle an excess of an amount of force compared to a climbing harness belay loop. I can come up with a few other reasons why belay from a properly set up anchor is preferable 80% of the time.
@@kennethsimmons7394 this is the dumbest comment I have ever read. This may well be true, but about 10000x more people climb with ropes than free solo making that statistic irrelevant. The more relevant stat would be what percentage of free solo climbers die compared to sport climbers / trad. Even then, this isn't entirely accurate as a lot of people who free solo specifically make sure the route is not too difficult for them, they've climbed it on rope many many times before and of course that the route isn't chossy like this one. It's like saying 100x more people die swimming in the ocean than swimming in the Arctic.... Yah, cuz about 10 people swim in the Arctic.
@@narakarrarr6191 sorry you felt the need to attack me for some reason I should have explained my thought process more of why I’m saying this but you are clearly just a Cunt so I’m not even gonna bother
@@narakarrarr6191 but that is also why free soloing is technically less lethal. A free soloist would never attempt something they could not physically handle. Someone with equipment can be a rookie but climb high up while taking their time. This is where mistakes happen and people are more likely to die. Just because your equipment can take you there doesn’t make it safer. If that equipment fails, you fall. If you mishandle the equipment, you fall. It’s shifting ultimate responsibility to the equipment rather than your own ability. Just wanted to point that out since you want to start bringing up statistics. There are so many factors which come into play that attempting to boil it down to scientific thought fails to grasp the dynamics of the situation.
@@narakarrarr6191 and I don’t advocate for free soling really. I just like climbing things that are doable under your own power. Some people are freaks and can climb a vertical stone wall without equipment, but I wouldn’t. It’s all dependent on the ability of the person. Scrambling up to the top of a small mountain is probably more fun because it is liberating from the technology which you are reliant on. There are so many stories of climbers dying not only because of their foolishness but simply because their own equipment failed. Just be smart and enjoy things you can handle. It reminds me of the older and out of health people who are recently climbing Everest because “we can do it and have the money to buy the equipment and guides” but they end up dying because they really shouldn’t have.
Multiple thing worrying me there. Why does he allow his GriGri to be sucked up into the quickdraw, potentially disengaging it? This should not be happening. He is belaying off his harness while it looks like he himself is probably secured to a perfectly fine anchor. Put the belay device there, it prevents you from getting thrown around if your climber takes a fall. Why does he even use a grigri at all in multipitch? Use a tuber and the plate function to belay the following climber. Dead giveaway that this guy never had any formal training is also the fact that he grabs the rope and gets his hand squished in between the quickdraw and his grigri. Someone who knows how to belay will not grab that side of the rope. Just hold the break side in a relaxed way. In the last few frames you can even see him let go of the breakside of the rope completely. Dead man climbing right there
Interesting. I think the grigri get pressed against the express biner which causes it to not lock directly, with some extra rope slippage as a result. Wouldn’t happened with an ordinary slot device. Be aware when using a Grigri if if you’re close to the first express.....
from what I can see he was still holding the brake rope so even if the cam disengaged the grigri would have acted like a tube belay plate. Just a great reminder to always hold the break rope no matter what belay device you are using
The most impressive part of this video is that when he knew he could no longer maintain grip with his hands he basically jumped off to keep his body vertical which was his best chance at that point.
I would assume the belayer is anchored directly to the bolts next to him. Still would be like double the weight on the belayers harness if the dude is just hanging straight from his grigri tho. Not a good position for sure.
Always gotta love the rope grabbers. It’s difficult not to naturally reach for the rope but that’s actually how you lose fingers. I had a friend of mine degloved in a very similar manner.
@@michaelt1931 the rope on the climbers side here goes through a carabiner and directly to the climber, holding onto the rope means you're getting your fingers/hand pulled through the carabiner
@strasz btw when i say ‘hook’ i mean carabiner. What u said would be true if the climber is falling towards that hook the orange line is going through, however the climber has the rope tied to his torso so when he falls, wouldnt he be moving away from the hook not towards it? In the video he is falling away from that hook how would his hand get caught in it?
@@michaelt1931 oh I see what you mean, the climber isn't at risk of losing their fingers by grabbing the rope, the comment is about the belayer (the cameraman) grabbing the rope as the climber falls and you can see in the video the cameraman's fingers get pulled in towards the carabiner
This scene did it's job, it got us all to click. Yes, rock occasionally breaks, but notice that only one move off of the belay the climber dramatically took his left hand off a huge two-hand bucket and pulled hard with his right hand on a very small hold that wasn't even needed. Did this serve to make a point? Yes.
Climbing shoes are often quite tight to better enable the wearer to fit their toes into small gaps. It's not uncommon for people to take their shoes off while belaying or resting on a platform.
Dude, have you ever been in a multipitch? Sporty one where you actually need good stiff shoes? You thank god for small ledges for belay where you can rest your feet
When a handhold goes, there's very little you can do. I've had this happen so many times in a forty + year climbing life & the belayer did a great job. Watch the climbers right handhold before talking bollocks.
Been climbing for 10+ years and agree!! Positive fall factors are always sketchy, props to the belayer for being heads up enough to not get their left hand sucked into the draw...
@@GravityLabz while I think it blocked or pressed against the cam do you think that it increased the distance of the fall? Looks like belayer had their hand on the brake the whole time.
First guy grabbed a flaky piece of rock and learned a lesson, second guy tried to grab that rope going through the carabiner and learned real fast too.
@@Joe.484 yeah man but the chances are so astronomically low for Alex compared to these clowns. Like yeah ofc he can always fall but he's doing everything humanly possible to avoid that unlike these. Garunteed if Alex watched this he'd say that is not somewhere he would have grabbed
There's a reason climbing is called a thinking man's sport. Lapse of concentration almost cost them both. A climbing partner relationship is very personal and cooperative. Be mindful of who you climb with or around.
He got shoes, they just hurt to wear most the time so you take them off when belaying. Though, some do climb barefoot... Just usually not big walls... Oddly enough, a lot of bigger walls is done with aid climbing too so not even sport climbing like this.
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Shoeless Joe really asked what happened. I fell is the answer
Wht happened lol you gotta good friend right there even though he was prolly good
@@jonathanbowen9003 Shoeless Joe 🤣😂
Last thing you want is to put your whole weight on one rope scraping sharp rocks. Look up how weak all climbing ropes are.
It blows my mind that people do this without ropes. All it takes is one loose Stone
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They're usually not climbing something they're not familiar with. This looks like something that doesn't get a whole lot of traffic
@@schplays8595 dying?
@@RB-ej8wk the risk of death
The part usually not shown is going up the route several times in advance just to clean it
Who’s using a leaf blower that high up
Definitely a logger
That’s 100% a chainsaw lol 😂
Seriously 🤣 what a great background sound lol
A pensionado
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Climbing shoes are supposed to be small and they squish your feet. Climbing in them for awhile can make your feet hurt so climbers take their shoes off to give their feet a break.
Frfr that’s why I either wear Vibrams or just go unshod as to not damage my feet by getting bunions or hammertoes from the pointy things that they call “shoes”
@@nabranestwistypuzzler7019 is that like a new thing to flex about that you are not wearing shoes
@@ReDHaWkoeh, I wouldn’t say it’s *new*
All sorts of minimalist hippies have been tooting the barefoot horn since the 60’s with dips and peaks of popularity. Nowadays it’s becoming monetized by products such as the Vibram toe shoes and others that promote full feet and toe spread so mainstream people feel allowed to tout those ideals.
Things like this make you realise even more just how crazy Alex Honnold’s free solo climb of El Capitan was.
All free solos. Loose rock is everywhere I think they are so lucky
@@showemwatchagot8791
Legit
Those guys and girls are temporary citizens when they start free soloing
Crazy is a good word to describe all the fools climbing mountains etc. Especially everest. Ppl who die there are just plain stupid and dumb ppl who should be laughed at and be forgotten.
I'll bet that was the cleanest Freerider ever got. He tested every inch of that thing. But yeah, even still shit happens.
Rope makes you complacent.
Thats why whenever im planning to climb to 700 feet i make 100% sure to stop at the 10 foot mark and turn around,no thanks.
Damn no hate but why climb mountains if you don’t want the risk ur gonna die from 600 feet anyway why not go as high as you can life is just so simple and great when ur 3000+ ft in the air with just you and the rock
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if i get a stiff neck looking at the summit, i'm not getting on it...
Meanwhile chainsaw massacre down at the bottom getting excited for prey to fall 💀😭🦴
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I laughed so hard just now
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Belayer almost lost a finger
Oh shit yeah, I didn't see that first time but ooh that was close
terrible technique; could have been ALOT worse.
Serious!
Belayer lucky he didn't lose a climber
He's also standing on the rope, grinding sand and other minute particles into it. Not great for rope longevity.
This is why free soloing is crazy. Doesn't matter how good you are, the rock can decide you're done at any minute.
He also didn't test the hold at all
@@WhatsY0UTUB3Testing the hold seems dangerous too!
yeah but also it’s not like they’re trying a new route that isn’t climbed normally. they climb stuff that’s climbed regularly to avoid this and they climb it a billion times with a rope
The most intersting thing about this clip is the belayer's hand getting sucked into the first piece of gear and then the first piece of gear getting sucked into the Grigri, that can 'defeat' the grigri. Luckily nothing happened.
If you hold the brake side of the grigri (as you always should), the QuickDraw can't unlock the cam. See the belay devices video made by hard is easy
I only noticed belayer is barefoot
@@PeterPan-vz7mk If my climbing partner took both hands off the rope, ever, we are done climbing together, this is the problem with gear like a GriGri if people haven't trained their fundamentals first, people get hurt
@@thisisgettingold yes, I totally agree on that in general. But I think you can't blame some one, who get's sucked into the wall, that their reflexes tell them to let go. I'm not even sure what my body would do after years of belaying. It's a small path we're on here.
Cheek pucker factor 10
The route setters really need to screw the holds in better!
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This is what we get for joining the cheapest gym in our area.
YOU are the real MVP of these comments
That wasn't a hold, the rock broke
Look like a piece of the rock face broke off to me.
for anyone who doesnt know what happened, the grigiri got pulled into the first piece and uncammed itself. there are 2 things you can do to avoid this:
1 have a hand on the rope behind your back with the rope to catch it and use like an atc for the first lil bit
2 once the next piece is clipped, you can undo the draw going through the anchor
stay safe out there :)
I thought that he lost his grip and balance because the rock fell apart. Any tips for that?
@@KeithM143get gud.
1 wait, I thought you're supposed to hold the loose end of the rope all the time
Finally one to notice. Another possibility: Lower you belaying position towards the anchor you increase the distance to the draw and also give yourself dynamic room.
@@marcusstrymon693 Yeah, you can’t see what the placement’s like from this video but ideally, you’d want that bit of gear higher up but extended enough so the rope won’t drag round the corner. His belayer just looks like he’s in a bit of an awkward constricted stance with his brake hand in close to the wall. And yeah, he’d have been better positioned if he’d set himself up lower down in a hanging stance rather than standing on the ledge.
Someone should collect stuff like this into a belaying errors playlist!
That free solo dude was blessed.
Nah, he just studied well
Nnnnnaaaaahhhhhhh
i wouldn’t say blessed i’d say he’s just amazing at what he does because of his own ability and the way he treated the situation.
Dude damn near lost a finger 🤘. Note to self: When buddy falls... Don't grab the rope as its sliding through caribineer. 😂
He was holding it so he could let slack out
@adamatch9624 and then tensed up during the fall and almost ended up with a gnarled finger. Something to look out for when you're running through that first anchor draw
You can tell it hurt his finger after as he closed his fist
Happened to me when i was belaying once, felt too comfortable and my hair got pulled into the Grigri lol. Never be too comfortable when belaying
bro has the dawgs out
lol fr
That's just good livin' right there.
Probably Barking hard in those shoes 👟
That mf got slave feet
@@ericbrown4081 NAH STOP HE WANTED TO TAKE THEM OUT FOR A WALK BRO
When the grigri hit the biner my heart skipped a few beats. 😱
Thanks! Saw that but didn’t pay attention!!!! Good catch really good catch
"When the belay hit the carabiner my heart skipped a few beats"
@@tedofuentes6525 lol?
That was AWESOME! I was like...
"YES! SPAGHETTI SAUCE ON THE ROCKS!" 😂
Yeah that anchor set up is sketch
The guy holding the rope almost had a SERIOUS injury with that carabiner
Dam, your right, if he’d broken his finger from that he’d be pretty stuck
Both of them would have had a serious problem if that carabiner hadn't been there.
@@chronically_late tho the carabiner shouldnreally be higher above the belayer
After 300 million years and now that rock face will never be the same. RIP little slate of a rock 😢
Ok, rock climber here. For all the bozos saying rock climbers are stupid, yes this isn’t ideal but the belayer caught the fall. This is multi-pitch climbing for all the people saying that he needs to have a rope for safety he does, in the first quick draw which has a personal anchor attached until you start climbing. Yes the belayer is barefoot, you don’t need shoes to belay it’s more comfortable to not however this is not in a gym so I would recommend shoes so he can be dynamic and jump on the cliff when taking or catching a fall. And lastly this is lead climbing, meaning that there is no rope that goes to the top than back down to the climber, the belayer gives slack as the climber clips him/her self into quick draws, so you expect a short fall before the slack gets used up and the belayer catches you.
Rock climbing is for low value morons who don’t have any kind of real success or practical skills in their life.
Ty, I've been looking for this lol
Thanks for the explanation. I don't know much about climbing but the belayer? Reacted quick I was impressed.
so how is the belayer secured? couldn't he have been pulled down too in this incident? i watch all these climbing vids but i don't get the logistics of it. 😩
@@fernfunk most of the time on single pitch climbing they aren’t however multi pitch climbs (meaning that the climber has to move up in steps with the belayer) they usually secure themselves with a Petzl connect or a device of similar purpose. These devices let you comfortably stay connected to the wall and lay back to belay, while letting you adjust your slack and distance from wall. This is handy rather than using an anchor (which can be done) because it lets you jump to catch the climber. Hope this helps!
Many years ago as a dumb teenager this happened to me on an ocean side cliff. Wasn't using any equipment. Rock broke off in my hand and I felt like Wile E. Coyote. Had to push off the wall while falling to clear the rocks 30ft below. I landed safely but was scraped up and bleeding. I'm lucky to be alive. I don't climb anything these days other than ladders or coconut trees 🤙
Lucky you. I read somewhere people dont fall very well. After 25 feet youre probably not getting back up again. You lucked out big time
@@danbrownellfuzzy3010 that's because he's exaggerating. Common bro...
Yeah, 30 feet is 3 stories... Given it would be a hard fall (as shown), even pushing off would be really difficult to land correctly... Maybe if you fell into some brush or trees it would soften but you're gonna have some broken bones at 30ft, if fortunate enough to have no head injury. Simple enough, climb with protection and a helmet. It's not fun to see someone get hurt climbing - it can ruin the experience for many around.
@@e.solano3963 i grew up around bouldering, inland and by the Pacific Ocean. The fall I remember most was clearly not serious or caused any injuries, but the speed it happened was almost like the speed of light. Gravity doesn't take a day off or slow down for anything.
JM did say it was an ocean side cliff, and cleared the rocks. Reads like the landing was in the water, so I don't know why anyone would have trouble with this story.
2 things we can learn from this:
1. Don't use Grigri in Multi pitch! It's ment to be used on the harness in sports climbing where you can move on the ground and give a soft catch.
Using it from the anchor there are many ways how the locking mechanism can be disabled as we can see here.
2. Make sure the dummy runner is not too long!
Glad it went well this time.
Anybody else see the belayers left hand could have ended up very bad?
I've done it. If you get a bit too carefree while in cramped belay stance it can happen pretty quickly when your climber falls. Fortunately it seems to result in a rope bite, not a full on deglove or anything like that.
Yeah, that and his bare feet , good grief
He is in pain
@@armarq8091 he fucked his thumb up bad
That looked like it hurt him... Probably more once the adrenaline wears off
That grigri trying to mate with the draw gives me more chills than the breaking hold
not as long as he holds the brake end
@@derekcraig3617 he didn't though. You see his guid hand get wrecked and hes holding his hand all funny cause I'm sure it hurts. But right before you hear the guy say something to the other you see the beleyers right hand coming back to grip the break side
What is all this mountain climbing vocabulary
@notlightbeam4889If I translate: It means dude was incompetent but got away lucky
@@marcusstrymon693nah, i think he's just readjusting his right hand, i don't see him letting go
This man almost got his hand crushed by the atc and the carabiner
It was a grigri, not an ATC.
"What happened?"
"I dunno mate, the ground just looked mighty comfortable 700 feet up"
Lmfao I know right give the man a second to calm down & process not go straight to WHAT HAPPENED lol
Are we going to ignore the fact that my man I BAREFOOT
took his shoes off at the belay because they hurt to keep on
And that he almost lost his hand in that carabiner.
@@achimaufachse5925 and that he took his hand off the brake rope and could have killed his partner
Well if you've ever climbed a multi pitch climb 99% chance your taking your shoes of while belaying. Being in climbing shoes for hours at a time in awkward position sucks
@@thisisgettingold it's a gri gri.
That rush of adrenaline must've been god level
Na
i wouldn’t say this would be god level since this is kinda just part of climbing
guy with the camera almost lost a few fingers there
@Tim Dobrovolsky because he was gripping the rope and his hand was pulled into the carbiner
@Tim Dobrovolsky it can rip them clean off
@Tim Dobrovolsky It was the falling guy's full weight pulling the rope so that would certainly at least damage your fingers a lot
He would have to have the grip strength to rip his fingers off for them to go through there… at the worst he will get a very bad rope burn
@@kurtsaidwhat no, that isn't how it works
When I heard the chainsaw I legit thought a tree trunk is gonna go tumbling down on top of them.
That sling didn't need to be extended. It should be above and away from the belayer. As it's setup, it serves no purpose but to get sucked into the grigri to make a factor 2 fall even more dangerous. You guys got lucky.
Everyone is such an expert in this comment section. It’s hilarious.
Hahaha exactly.
i climbed
Most of its junk, but I actually learn a lot out of the comment sections when veteran climbers can find small things to point out, but yes, 99% is junk lol
well theres some obvious flaws here, and at what point does consensus dawn on you
@@dereks7061 If you watch at 0.25 speed you will see the the GRIGRI did not catch the fall but the blayer did because the GRIGRI was pulled aginst the caribiner and did not lock.
that climb just went from 5.9 to 5.10
Idk that hold just got A LOT bigger
I don't think that's how decimals work.
@@S42069 it is actually...at least it could be in theory.... could go either way actually
@@jbbolts Ummm.. 5.9 to a 5.1(0) is a decrease of .8
For a 5.9 to increase, it would go to a 6.0, assuming we're jumping by tenths. I believe you were thinking of 5.09 to a 5.1
So, yeah.. that's how decimals work.
@@S42069 that works for math... in climbing its an increase in difficulty
Belayer almost lost some skin in that quickdraw.
or a few fingers/the ability to use them
A billion calculations going through a mind in a nanosecond second and a new set of underwear requited,
Glad he's alive tho
Haha exactly.
this is what i m affraid of when i see free solo,no ropes😮
Nah, that’s a microstructure break. The last last thing you want when climbing is a macrostructure break because that can cut ropes or the face you’re climbing can collapse to the ground!
Fall from the belay station: worst case scenario
Not worse case but less than ideal
And that's why I'll probably not free solo a wall ever unless i have to escape something. You can do everything perfectly and still fall to your death on no fault of your own except being foolish enough to think your skill makes you invincible.
Yep, crazy to think Alex Honnold freesolo'd in Yosemite. What if something like this had occured. And he still feesolos from time to time....
A free solo would never grab obviously loose rocks 😯
@@chrisvig123 not so easy to identify a loose rock or cliff face when you are already mentally and physically exhausted
It's not the same thing at all. This guy was not doing what looked to be a traveled road. If you're free soloing you're climbing well within your comfort zone. This guy was making hard moves on uncertain terrain.
Barefoot becsuse climbing shoes are incredibly uncomfortable to wear all day. Usually take them off on multipitch routes when belaying.
There’s me on the couch getting sweaty palms like I’m stupid enough to be in this situation from the corner of my own living room.
You would be stupid doing it but he wasn't
Dude holding the rope almost lost a finger
Yeah wtf is he doing with a hand on the climber side of the BRD.
@@slpguy6026 And he didn't even grab the brake end AFTER he dropped the rope and left his friends life to the grigri. I hope the climber watched the video later and learned to NEVER climb with that belayer again.
“What happened?”
“I fell... thought that was obvious”
I mean he probably didn't know how he fall because to him he did everything right. It was to rock that break
Until that one time..... Then it's... "He died doing what he loved."
Unlikely from what I see here
The Grigri hitting the first quick draw can actually be pretty dangerous because it can disable the camming action.
Yeah, and they almost got their hand crushed! Looks like they kept on the brake line (out of frame) though but I can't really tell.
Solid explanation - makes sense
ATC doesn’t even have a cam, that must be really really dangerous 🙄
I personally much prefer the rock to break than panicking 5m above the last bolt...
Belayer was this close 👌 to crushing his hand between the quickdraw and brake!
Crazy part was the guys hand getting sucked in because he was holding the rope too tight and had absolutely no headroom. Always need to pay attention to headroom.
His hand got sucked in because he wasn't holding the brake side of the rope. He was holding the climber side.
Alex Honnold has entered the chat. It's a good thing all the granite on El Capitan is nice and solid and hasn't been loose in 10,000 years.
Those Arc’teryx pants made him so strong that he could just rip rocks out of the wall 🥵
u got gear envy?
@@feelinghealingfrequences7179 uhhh I’m wearing an arc jacket as I type this comment
- Hand not on brake strand.
- Hand close to first piece after Grigri
- Grigri way to close to first peace
- Rather don't belay from body on mp
+ Bonus Points for wearing helmets :)
Literally was going to comment this.
That Gri Gri cam bumping the redirect 😳.
But luckily they are 700 feet up, so as long they got the ends tied, he would only take a huge wip.
@marcus Matthias why wouldn't you belay from the body? These guys are trad climbing, so taking as little shock to the belay anchors as possible is desirable. Belaying from the body will allow the belayer to take some of the shock rather than it all go to the anchor points.
@@goodall18 mainly due to where the redirect is. Since it was so close, the belayer got pulled into the redirect, making the Gri Gri's cam to disengage. This allowed the climber to fall 2-3x the distance.
If you look at the end of the video, the Gri Gri is pressured against the carabineer.
Also, this system has multiple single point failures. If they belayed from a properly set up trad anchor, there would be two to three failure points, and the load would be distributed across multiple pieces.
A properly set up tread anchor can handle an excess of an amount of force compared to a climbing harness belay loop.
I can come up with a few other reasons why belay from a properly set up anchor is preferable 80% of the time.
@@ClimbingEasy Thanks for the answer dude, always good to increase my knowledge
It hurts to see the belayer trying to grab the rope on the wrong side of the belay tool
Curious, how should it have been differently/better? Just want to understand to learn.
chainsaw made me expect a tree to come over the top
What *HapPeNed*
3 points of contact bro. Noticed how he released the left hand right before right hand anchor broke off.
yes. i am curious, what should he have done? he did have 3 points of contact it's just that one of the failed...?
"hwah hapen?"
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Imagine if this happened while solo free climbing
it does
they usually do the route many times with ropes and test the holds so it's very rare, but anything's possible
Different rocks have different characteristics.
Or free soloing below them. Nobody yelled "rock" either.
theoretically in a billion years over all beings 1,000,000 cases
This Why i am allways worried about this for free style climing
What happened is that rope saved your life. But I don't see how free climbers do it with the weight of their massive balls!
🤣🤣🤣
I love how calm, buddy was..
Exactly why free soloing is a death wish
It’s really not. More people have died normal rock climbing by 10x then by free soloist.
@@kennethsimmons7394 this is the dumbest comment I have ever read. This may well be true, but about 10000x more people climb with ropes than free solo making that statistic irrelevant.
The more relevant stat would be what percentage of free solo climbers die compared to sport climbers / trad. Even then, this isn't entirely accurate as a lot of people who free solo specifically make sure the route is not too difficult for them, they've climbed it on rope many many times before and of course that the route isn't chossy like this one.
It's like saying 100x more people die swimming in the ocean than swimming in the Arctic.... Yah, cuz about 10 people swim in the Arctic.
@@narakarrarr6191 sorry you felt the need to attack me for some reason I should have explained my thought process more of why I’m saying this but you are clearly just a Cunt so I’m not even gonna bother
@@narakarrarr6191 but that is also why free soloing is technically less lethal. A free soloist would never attempt something they could not physically handle. Someone with equipment can be a rookie but climb high up while taking their time. This is where mistakes happen and people are more likely to die. Just because your equipment can take you there doesn’t make it safer. If that equipment fails, you fall. If you mishandle the equipment, you fall. It’s shifting ultimate responsibility to the equipment rather than your own ability. Just wanted to point that out since you want to start bringing up statistics. There are so many factors which come into play that attempting to boil it down to scientific thought fails to grasp the dynamics of the situation.
@@narakarrarr6191 and I don’t advocate for free soling really. I just like climbing things that are doable under your own power. Some people are freaks and can climb a vertical stone wall without equipment, but I wouldn’t. It’s all dependent on the ability of the person. Scrambling up to the top of a small mountain is probably more fun because it is liberating from the technology which you are reliant on. There are so many stories of climbers dying not only because of their foolishness but simply because their own equipment failed. Just be smart and enjoy things you can handle. It reminds me of the older and out of health people who are recently climbing Everest because “we can do it and have the money to buy the equipment and guides” but they end up dying because they really shouldn’t have.
My hands are sweating
Mine too!
It blows my mind that people be climbing that high barefoot
The last thing that I'd want is to climb, much more, that high.
Bruh that crimp said NOPE
Good news is you made the entry hold into a nice jug for everyone. ROCK!!!
Watch those fingies mr. belayer.
Dude almost lost 2 or 3 fingers easily lol
Your system worked and your alive! Well done! You just proved…you will fall …but when! Great recovery and arrest!!!well done! Still alive!
Multiple thing worrying me there.
Why does he allow his GriGri to be sucked up into the quickdraw, potentially disengaging it? This should not be happening.
He is belaying off his harness while it looks like he himself is probably secured to a perfectly fine anchor. Put the belay device there, it prevents you from getting thrown around if your climber takes a fall.
Why does he even use a grigri at all in multipitch? Use a tuber and the plate function to belay the following climber.
Dead giveaway that this guy never had any formal training is also the fact that he grabs the rope and gets his hand squished in between the quickdraw and his grigri. Someone who knows how to belay will not grab that side of the rope. Just hold the break side in a relaxed way.
In the last few frames you can even see him let go of the breakside of the rope completely.
Dead man climbing right there
So much is wrong with the video
Bruh, he is clearly belaying the leader in this case.
That’s when you realise that adrenaline is brown! 🤣
hahaha couldn't agree more!
Haaaaa this needs WAY more likes
The grigri definitely hurt his fingers there
Got your hand sucked into your equipment. Potentially fatal mistake. Hopefully lesson learned
Interesting. I think the grigri get pressed against the express biner which causes it to not lock directly, with some extra rope slippage as a result. Wouldn’t happened with an ordinary slot device. Be aware when using a Grigri if if you’re close to the first express.....
Wow, that draw almost disengaged the cam on the gri gri. He got lucky!
from what I can see he was still holding the brake rope so even if the cam disengaged the grigri would have acted like a tube belay plate. Just a great reminder to always hold the break rope no matter what belay device you are using
Anyone else's feet just start to get a weird feeling when he fell
No, just my sphincter 😳
The most impressive part of this video is that when he knew he could no longer maintain grip with his hands he basically jumped off to keep his body vertical which was his best chance at that point.
I don’t understand free climbing. Your life hangs on ever hold that could easily fall away like that. Different breed. All respect
Seems like the drop was further than it should've been. Wonder if that draw sucked the gri gri in holding the brake cam open? Scary.
Dude if your hand opened that clip u both in deadly trouble...
I would assume the belayer is anchored directly to the bolts next to him. Still would be like double the weight on the belayers harness if the dude is just hanging straight from his grigri tho. Not a good position for sure.
Bro the camera man is going thru the most pain he’s Going on 700 feet climb up with no socks or shoes
Always gotta love the rope grabbers. It’s difficult not to naturally reach for the rope but that’s actually how you lose fingers. I had a friend of mine degloved in a very similar manner.
How do you lose fingers if you grab for the rope?
@@michaelt1931 the rope on the climbers side here goes through a carabiner and directly to the climber, holding onto the rope means you're getting your fingers/hand pulled through the carabiner
@strasz btw when i say ‘hook’ i mean carabiner. What u said would be true if the climber is falling towards that hook the orange line is going through, however the climber has the rope tied to his torso so when he falls, wouldnt he be moving away from the hook not towards it? In the video he is falling away from that hook how would his hand get caught in it?
@@michaelt1931 oh I see what you mean, the climber isn't at risk of losing their fingers by grabbing the rope, the comment is about the belayer (the cameraman) grabbing the rope as the climber falls and you can see in the video the cameraman's fingers get pulled in towards the carabiner
@@szewal ah i see that is true
This scene did it's job, it got us all to click. Yes, rock occasionally breaks, but notice that only one move off of the belay the climber dramatically took his left hand off a huge two-hand bucket and pulled hard with his right hand on a very small hold that wasn't even needed. Did this serve to make a point? Yes.
Nobody’s gonna mention he’s barefoot?😂
Climbing shoes are often quite tight to better enable the wearer to fit their toes into small gaps. It's not uncommon for people to take their shoes off while belaying or resting on a platform.
You get it!
@@airborne_arachnid makes sense. Did the same thing with my flippers after diving/snorkeling😂
I was more impressed with the polo collared shirts.. next time, ties!
so?
No worries mate, I don’t have any fackin shoes on
Dude, have you ever been in a multipitch? Sporty one where you actually need good stiff shoes? You thank god for small ledges for belay where you can rest your feet
this is how are parents used to go to school
Take heed all you soloists out there
I know one who died breaking a hold
I was more afraid for the finger in the carabiner 😬😬😬😬
Thanks for reminding why I don’t climb
It's not that unusual when climbing. Happens all the time. Much worse when telly-sized boulder gives ...
When a handhold goes, there's very little you can do. I've had this happen so many times in a forty + year climbing life & the belayer did a great job. Watch the climbers right handhold before talking bollocks.
Been climbing for 10+ years and agree!! Positive fall factors are always sketchy, props to the belayer for being heads up enough to not get their left hand sucked into the draw...
Thanks for sharing I don't climb but that's what I saw belayer was right on it. Now if he's not idk what happens.
I will never understand why some people do this for fun or want to do this..
And that is why I keep my feet firmly planted on the ground
It looks like the Grigri was pressed against the carabiner, preventing its cam from turning and catching the rope.
Yes exactly. Good eye
That's always been a concern for me with this method of belaying.. Is there a better alternative?
@@gregs7809 fixed point belay for the first bit until good gear is placed or try and set up a high piece off the anchor to redirect
@@gregs7809 anchor -> atc and anchor -> belayer
@@GravityLabz while I think it blocked or pressed against the cam do you think that it increased the distance of the fall? Looks like belayer had their hand on the brake the whole time.
First guy grabbed a flaky piece of rock and learned a lesson, second guy tried to grab that rope going through the carabiner and learned real fast too.
Imagine this would have happened when Alex honnold climbed free solo.
This makes it even more disturbing.
Alex honnald would never be in this situation, Alex is calculated and precise and knows the rock. Nothing calculated about this climber
@@georgebordman9980 dude.. it could have still happend. He even mentioned it somewhere. You ever heard of Murphy's law?
@@Joe.484 yeah man but the chances are so astronomically low for Alex compared to these clowns. Like yeah ofc he can always fall but he's doing everything humanly possible to avoid that unlike these. Garunteed if Alex watched this he'd say that is not somewhere he would have grabbed
@@georgebordman9980everything except not climbing Half-Dome without ropes alone.
This is why free climbing is crazy
You think that's crazy you should see people fall aid climbing
The piece of rock that chipped away:
"What happen??"
Dude almost lost his thumb, then his buddy.
The last thing i want to have happen is a base jumper to crash into me at like 200mph
There's a reason climbing is called a thinking man's sport. Lapse of concentration almost cost them both. A climbing partner relationship is very personal and cooperative. Be mindful of who you climb with or around.
Bruh the guy recording is built differently or he grew up Amish how the hell is he climbing with no shoes
my guess is he took em off to air his feet and shoes out. those bastards can be TIGHT.
He got shoes, they just hurt to wear most the time so you take them off when belaying. Though, some do climb barefoot... Just usually not big walls... Oddly enough, a lot of bigger walls is done with aid climbing too so not even sport climbing like this.