Modern igpus have gotten insane. Running the most recent AAA games at over 60fps is crazy. 10 years ago my integrated graphics could hardly run esports titles at that fps.
They run at 60....with upscaling and frame gen. And that is the best of them. Nothing really mindblowing. 7850K from 10 years ago could do 720p30 in The Witcher 3, which was the most demanding game at the time.
@@mclarenf1gtr99 Nobody wants to play games at 720p 30 fps. Even with the upscaling and frame gen its going to feel and look a lot better than 720p 30fps lol.
@@JardTheRat I should have explain something to avoid that response. You can't compare now with 10 years ago on resolution and upscaling tech. 4K is still crawling out, 1440p was premium res, not like now. 720p was the budget res, now it is 1080p. New iGPUs can't really do 1080p without upscaling or frame gen on new games. Only big titles from 2+ years ago can really run at 1080p decently, no upscaling or frame gen. The problem is, we consider games from 5 years ago still relevant, and in case of GTA 5, 10 years ago, that is why iGPUs seem to be better now than years ago, mostly because actual decent gaming GPUs are too expensive for what they offer.
So does everyone here remember the Netbooks? The little $300 Windows XP powered mini laptops. They were such a fun laptop size, just a few years prior to their rise in popularity a laptop that size would cost thousands.
there were expensive ones too. good keyboard, trackpad are important imo. the last one i bought was a Panasonic cfr3 and it was great, but not cheap. id buy the same laptop with up to date everything the gpd 4 is close, perhaps close enough. my main gripes would be keyboard and trackpad being odd, making it a bit more of a toy. id want something where you so not actually feel like youd want an external keyboard
This is a waste of money. I tell Amazon to turn on my PC and it does. My gaming laptop is an MSI with sunshine on it. I use a fire stick with moonlight on it to play seamlessly from any TV to my gaming PC. Full resolution, less than 5 ms latency
@@GamerToonsfor the people with a laptop already for work and still want to do some gaming this is great! I can play what I need on the go and I can always parsec into my main rig at a hotel when out for work if I need more power.
The pocket 3 has been one of the most useful computers i bought in years. This is a great upgrade. Great chipset, more usb c, slightly bigger keyboard and acreen.
You can watch an 8 hour video. So if I hooked this up to a mini projector I just have the ultimate gaming set up wherever the hell I want then. Indeed. Well I'm sold.
Finally a more powerful clamshell device with a touch pad at the upper right. What's missing is some trigger buttons, and a joystick and dpad at the upper left... and a cheaper price!
Further more, There's way too many good things now. what are we supposed to buy and keep? Odin 2, Rog ally, Upcoming Switch 2, upcoming Xbox handheld, maybe Steam deck Oled. truly a never ending rabbit hole.
Legion Go + Bazzite + Waydroid LeGo gives you thunderbolt 3 so you can use an eGPU with it once it starts getting too old and the specs aren't keeping pace, plus it opens up a lot of options for docks. With dual-boot Bazzite on a LeGo you get an experience basically identical to the Steam Deck and when running Waydroid on Bazzite you also get access to an Android container that runs virtually any android app. Obviously the LeGo allows you to run windows since that's what it comes with so it allows you to run anti-cheat games, mods, and so all sorts of tinkering and modding if you need. The controllers are detachable so you can use the LeGo as a windows tablet or, if you dual-boot, as a Linux tablet that also handles Android apps so it serves triple duty. One of the controllers can be used in the vertical mouse/FPS mode in a pinch. The only thing it's lacking is a portable Bluetooth keyboard but it's not like they are hard to find. With the built-in kickstand you've got yourself something close enough to a SFF laptop squared away. If I had to pick one option only I'd get a LeGo since it can do Steam Deck/Desktop PC with eGPU/tablet/virtually any OS while also working well as a sort of cobbled together pseudo-laptop.Though with the recent rumors you're probably best waiting to see what the LeGo 2 offers. Getting it all set up will take a bit of tinkering and you'd probably want to upgrade the hard drive so you have room to breathe - none of this is particularly hard to do but it would require a bit of learning and investing a little time to get this all set up.
@@mannyw_ If you already have Legion Go, maybe you would like to try bluetooth keyboard for Lenovo Y700 Android tablet. Both devices have 8.8 inch screen.
Under a thousand to a little more than a thousand is not thousands of dollars. $900 to $1300. I am not saying cheap, just not nearly as expensive as you suggest.
AMD must be charging an arm and a leg for it, we need bespoke gaming chips like the steam deck one. The apu is not really configured optimally for gaming tbh
This is the APU from AMD we needed, the next two generations will have insane performance, creating a whole new market of gaming possibilities. The Asus Rog was too weak for me, but this new silicon i might have to buy!
Please do more content on this machine, it looks really interesting. I would like to see some blender benchmarks on linux (maybe fedora kde?) or some virtual machine performance. Great video as always!
the question for me is: how far you can push it as desktop replacement? what would be the termals at 30-35w on power and cooling stand hooked up to monitor with keyboard and mouse? if it could handle 35w with reasonable termals -that would be the best umpc ever created
sexi but the price vs performance vs exclusivity is insane, I would buy a mini laptop with n100 for portability and build a fullgrown desktop for that price...and still have something left over for groceries...
Which is I'm doing right now. I have 12" Celeron Asus E210MA which is portable enough (can be insert into a tablet pouch).. just for doing excel spreadsheets & browsing. Its battery life & lightness are great. But I also have Thinkpad laptop & a gaming PC set at home
An N100 would be a better option for price/performance, but these handhelds are mass-produced with epic profit margins so there's a lot of leeway for price reductions that won't ever come during the production run. As for gaming, the Legion Go is the right choice over this..
This is catered to engineers and competes with the Macbook lineup more directly. I can also buy a old desktop that outperforms it, but I need that full computing power on my daily driver and don't want to be tethered to my desk and I want something as small as possible while still being usable for engineering work. The M3 Airbook is way to weak to handle heavy 3D computing and is huge in comparison to a 8 inch device. This device has specific modular Adapative Vmware and modular ports for diagnostics. This device is like owning a Android Tablet, MacOS, Linux Laptop and Powerful Gaming PC capable of dealing with the computing heavy tasks like compiling code, exporting local builds or running through multiple automated test suites at the same time. Point is that it's cheap for what it is, it obviously can't outperform a desktop setup, but it outperform the M4 Mac Mini in pure power in a even smaller portable form factor and has a lot of quality of life features for engineers.
Would love to see how well it works as a KVM. (If you can get that module). And yes, also a Linux demo with Ubuntu or Fedora would be great as well. Nice stuff.
nah bruh im going crazy over this thing, i need it !! MAX SPECS !!!!!!!!!!!!! and to anyone who says this is expensive.... LOOK AT IT !!! IT'S MARVELOUS!!!
@@Armand79th yeah yeah yeah, pc gamers are notorious for being cheapos. im not calling you poor, no sir. I am very poor myself, I'm calling you tight pocketed!! Weird how I asked my friend who actually makes a living from IT and he can't believe it. My truck driver friend even said not a bad price
GPD have been killing it in this space lately, I feel like they're going to become a household name in laptop industry soon, on par with names like Asus
@@Just_An_Ignacio For sure, they seem to manufacture on demand in smaller batches, which adds a premium to every component. If they were to come up with one wild flagship device that they can massproduce and stock an inventory they can capture the market quickly. For now it's very niche, but very good devices
@@Just_An_Ignacio Yh, personally I also miss the pocket 2 and lower end options they made for basic use / documents they had a perfect form factor to take on the go , sadly they seem to have moved towards the more expensive higher end options for the profit margins in the niche interest that is these devices. Understandable but a shame all the same.
Overrated and overpriced.. not good support. They churn these out in stupid numbers, so they *easily* have the capability to reduce this gouging. They won't.
@@Armand79th overrated in your opinion. Have you ever used one in person or are you an expert tech person or engineer? The world isn't just as you see it.
you could get that performance out of a desktop gpu at 75 watts now though, its not gonna be from a apu though. Apus now can only do cyberpunk 720p low.
At this size, the resolution they chose is perfect (FSR "performance" at 50% scaling). Also, regardless of what display I'm using, I choose (OS) UI scaling that gives me a 1280×720 look. At 1920×1080 that's 150% and at 3840×2160 that's 300%.
Could you please run same battery life tests with screen refresh rate lowered to 60Hz? I was about to order Pocket4, but other reviews suggest that battery might be as bad as 5 hours when webbrowsing, becasue of that 144Hz screen eating half of battery. Thanks!!!
Man...I just bought a WinMax2 lightyly used on ebay...Love that thing. About to take it on a trip to France just because of it's size and ability to be a do-it-all. This looks niiiiiiice.
1. AI9 365 vs 8840U in iGPU 2. red dead redemption , GTA V , Control , Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark . also hope you set the standard for game title testing , easy for us to buy the device
I would like to see the Adaptive Vmware, seamless switching between Android and MacOS with the 64gb of ram sounds like a dream for cross platform development.
Been considering just getting one of these and not touching desktops for a while. Im someone who is happy with 720p 30fps on a 24in display, so 8in display will look fantastic. In 10 years ive seen people go from agreeing with me, to ppl nowadays saying 1080 60 is the absolute minimum. People were advertised to for sure.
Maybe but at least he showcases a huge variety of the latest products and often better than the manufacturers do themselves. There are plenty of other channels to follow for in-depth technical and more critical reviews. ETA Prime doesn'r posiiton himself as one of them and WYSIWYG. He's good at his formula and his subscriber base speaks for itself.
Watching this video from my Pocket 3 .... Those GPDs are Great mini PC. Can be used as a desktop replacement one can carry anywhere, anytime. eg. on a weekend away, or alongside a job laptop during a business trip... only issue with my Pocket 3 was the i7 11th gen and its poor 4 cores that can't let it run RPCS3 well enough. But RPCS3 should fly with that new Pocket 4 and its Ryzen Strix Point !
ikr inFamous Shouldn't be a problem it'll be the thing to put my PS3 Slim into storage, yes I have legit copies and legit dumps (at one point I didn't until I was forced to get a PS3 (due to not having the horsepower on my GL for RPCS3) and Legit copies on the inFamous series
12:55 - A variant of Arch, preferably CachyOS (Arch compiled for optimisation). Though I guess Manjaro is always an option (easy to install, so is CachyOS as well, it's just, Manjaro's aim is to be easy to install and use, CachyOS's aim is to be better optimised for the CPU).
I stream as a hobby and have been looking for a portable set up for awhile now- unfortunately I’m dumb and am new to this scene, would this run well as a portable stream set up (OBS + external capture card/console)? Also maybe even as a portable video editing machine? Anyways great video!!
love this form factor, only thing missing is oculink -- also don't care for the webcam, tablet mode, bezels, and I wish they went with a 60% layout instead of crunching everything into "ergo", niche I know but still, one can dream
@@mk_quattro ROG Ally (non-X) owner here. Same topic... but sounds like there is not enough demand?! Maybe it takes a while for people to recognise the possibilities such a solution would have. Especially GPD should look into it, to provide Oculink everywhere. It makes small (powerful) devices like this one so much more versatile...
OMG GPD Pocket 4 is finally here gotta say it dosen't matter for me how small that gaming laptop is because I like small portable gaming tablets that are just for gaming! How much it cost and is it on Black Friday sale? I would love to get a portable gaming laptop, but I would be fine with a handheld gaming PC like Lenovo Legion Go too and thank you for the video! 😊❤
I've really really really liked my WinMax 2. I never use my game controls on it though, I play a lot of keyboard/mice games on it, plugged into a USB hub and monitor. However, I use it more as a notebook and I can not go any smaller on the screen, is is the minimum I can go. I wish they'd make a computer with this size screen without the game controls. If they release a winmax 3 with game controls I'd still buy it though.
I don't understand ETA Prime's game performance test scenarios. Some games are on low, some on med, at different TDP's. I mean is he testing the battery life or game performance during the game performance test? Why not keep the TDP at 18 W, 1080P resolution and then have the game running at low/med/high settings or whatever that lets the game run at 60 ~ 90fps in that small screen. And have the same set of games for each video: a racing simulator, a fighting game, a FPS and an action RPG.
I just got PC Crysis running Med settings on my Flip 6. If you told me 20 years ago my phone could run Crysis Id have thought it looked like a PC in a Sports Illustrated Football phone.
They managed to cram an HX370 in this one?!?!?!?!?!!? This video makes me so excited for the inevitable Minisforum V3 Mark 2. What I want from that machine is all it has now, but the HX370, an OLED panel and full size SD-card reader. And one USB A port
Modern igpus have gotten insane. Running the most recent AAA games at over 60fps is crazy. 10 years ago my integrated graphics could hardly run esports titles at that fps.
bs, those things could hardly render on screen a excell spreadsheet, intel igpus are a crime
@@betag24cnIntel, not AMD
They run at 60....with upscaling and frame gen. And that is the best of them. Nothing really mindblowing. 7850K from 10 years ago could do 720p30 in The Witcher 3, which was the most demanding game at the time.
@@mclarenf1gtr99 Nobody wants to play games at 720p 30 fps. Even with the upscaling and frame gen its going to feel and look a lot better than 720p 30fps lol.
@@JardTheRat I should have explain something to avoid that response.
You can't compare now with 10 years ago on resolution and upscaling tech. 4K is still crawling out, 1440p was premium res, not like now. 720p was the budget res, now it is 1080p. New iGPUs can't really do 1080p without upscaling or frame gen on new games. Only big titles from 2+ years ago can really run at 1080p decently, no upscaling or frame gen. The problem is, we consider games from 5 years ago still relevant, and in case of GTA 5, 10 years ago, that is why iGPUs seem to be better now than years ago, mostly because actual decent gaming GPUs are too expensive for what they offer.
My wallet ran away when I clicked this video.
I guess the Pocket 4 aint cost pocket money 🤭
I guess they are charging thousands for this 8inch tablet with shitty keyboard attached.
You have a clever wallet.
Mine tried, but couldn't go very far as it collapsed from prolonged hunger/emptiness.
@@mindlessftw $850. Not a bad price at all.
So does everyone here remember the Netbooks? The little $300 Windows XP powered mini laptops. They were such a fun laptop size, just a few years prior to their rise in popularity a laptop that size would cost thousands.
there were expensive ones too. good keyboard, trackpad are important imo. the last one i bought was a Panasonic cfr3 and it was great, but not cheap. id buy the same laptop with up to date everything the gpd 4 is close, perhaps close enough. my main gripes would be keyboard and trackpad being odd, making it a bit more of a toy. id want something where you so not actually feel like youd want an external keyboard
I tried connecting mine to an Egpu to run yie ar kung fu at 1080p and it blew up for some reason
No i remember UMPC's those were bad ass nothing with that cpu lol
you mean those PCs running on Celeron or Pentium ? they where real crap, also with a terrible screen .... unusable mostly
I still have nightmares.
Having a power button on the outside of the laptop is such a nice feature for using it with an external monitor or your TV.
This is a waste of money. I tell Amazon to turn on my PC and it does. My gaming laptop is an MSI with sunshine on it. I use a fire stick with moonlight on it to play seamlessly from any TV to my gaming PC. Full resolution, less than 5 ms latency
@@GamerToonsfor the people with a laptop already for work and still want to do some gaming this is great! I can play what I need on the go and I can always parsec into my main rig at a hotel when out for work if I need more power.
Prices during crowdfunding are expected to start at $829 for models with AMD Hawk Point processors or $1335 for models with Strix Point chips.
AMD got the hawk too huh..
@@zetsubou3704say that again
@@zetsubou3704say that again
@@zetsubou3704 say that again?
Suddenly the Legion Go looks a LOT better..
The pocket 3 has been one of the most useful computers i bought in years. This is a great upgrade. Great chipset, more usb c, slightly bigger keyboard and acreen.
It's shame this has no pen support
11th gen intel chip right?
@@jaybee-f9xyeah, tiger lake
Keyboard is exactly the same unfortunately
It's crazy how fast these things are becoming. 😲
and reasonable priced
You can watch an 8 hour video. So if I hooked this up to a mini projector I just have the ultimate gaming set up wherever the hell I want then. Indeed. Well I'm sold.
Finally a more powerful clamshell device with a touch pad at the upper right.
What's missing is some trigger buttons, and a joystick and dpad at the upper left... and a cheaper price!
I can’t wait to see what they do for their gaming focused handheld in the future. It’s credible how far things have come
I am really impressed by how far tech is coming. Especially PCS
This is exactly what I wish I had 15 years ago lol
I didn't even know we were far away from this technological jump.
Further more, There's way too many good things now. what are we supposed to buy and keep?
Odin 2, Rog ally, Upcoming Switch 2, upcoming Xbox handheld, maybe Steam deck Oled.
truly a never ending rabbit hole.
I wanted something like this back in High School to show my pals what PC exclusives they were missing out on.
@@CertifiedMVP There is a cahtter about a new Sony handheld as well.
It's barely a tip-toe, let alone a "jump".
Legion Go + Bazzite + Waydroid
LeGo gives you thunderbolt 3 so you can use an eGPU with it once it starts getting too old and the specs aren't keeping pace, plus it opens up a lot of options for docks.
With dual-boot Bazzite on a LeGo you get an experience basically identical to the Steam Deck and when running Waydroid on Bazzite you also get access to an Android container that runs virtually any android app.
Obviously the LeGo allows you to run windows since that's what it comes with so it allows you to run anti-cheat games, mods, and so all sorts of tinkering and modding if you need.
The controllers are detachable so you can use the LeGo as a windows tablet or, if you dual-boot, as a Linux tablet that also handles Android apps so it serves triple duty. One of the controllers can be used in the vertical mouse/FPS mode in a pinch.
The only thing it's lacking is a portable Bluetooth keyboard but it's not like they are hard to find. With the built-in kickstand you've got yourself something close enough to a SFF laptop squared away.
If I had to pick one option only I'd get a LeGo since it can do Steam Deck/Desktop PC with eGPU/tablet/virtually any OS while also working well as a sort of cobbled together pseudo-laptop.Though with the recent rumors you're probably best waiting to see what the LeGo 2 offers. Getting it all set up will take a bit of tinkering and you'd probably want to upgrade the hard drive so you have room to breathe - none of this is particularly hard to do but it would require a bit of learning and investing a little time to get this all set up.
I can feel my wife staring at me behind me while I'm watching this video.
*HELP*
*BLINK BLINK BLINK*
ETA, do you sell your old devices when you are done with them? Or donate them? Just curious.
He's done giveaways in the past.
So it’s got the exact display of a legion go. 144 hz 8.8 500 nits brightness same screen resolution. Interesting.
Legion Go should have a detachable keyboard the next iteration.
@@Xi_Jinping_is_PoohSurface Book style keyboard dock would be a dream come true
@@mannyw_ If you already have Legion Go, maybe you would like to try bluetooth keyboard for Lenovo Y700 Android tablet. Both devices have 8.8 inch screen.
The Legion Go already has a standing dock.
As soon as I hear Ryzen Ai 9 HX 370 I just know it's going to cost thousands of dollars
Under a thousand to a little more than a thousand is not thousands of dollars. $900 to $1300. I am not saying cheap, just not nearly as expensive as you suggest.
More that it's from gpd then anything else. They consider themselves the "premium" option in their market.
@@fairplayer916well they are 🤷♂️ and certainly not for everyone
At this price point you can just get g14 and have an actual gaming device. The magic of mini pc is dead to me
AMD must be charging an arm and a leg for it, we need bespoke gaming chips like the steam deck one. The apu is not really configured optimally for gaming tbh
NGl This guy gets all the new stuff really fast and shows informs us about it.
OK, bought it!
370 HX / 64GB / 2TB
Can't wait! :)
Waited for this❤
Definitely want to see linux testing. Any one of PopOS, Mint or Fedora would be great.
Yea I would want to put pop os on this thing
This is the APU from AMD we needed, the next two generations will have insane performance, creating a whole new market of gaming possibilities. The Asus Rog was too weak for me, but this new silicon i might have to buy!
Please do more content on this machine, it looks really interesting. I would like to see some blender benchmarks on linux (maybe fedora kde?) or some virtual machine performance. Great video as always!
this surprisingly is more powerful than my current GL and would put all my portables/Consoles into storage for emulation.
the question for me is:
how far you can push it as desktop replacement?
what would be the termals at 30-35w on power and cooling stand hooked up to monitor with keyboard and mouse?
if it could handle 35w with reasonable termals -that would be the best umpc ever created
Great lil pc for offices! Easy to carry and work awesome in combination with a docking station.
sexi but the price vs performance vs exclusivity is insane, I would buy a mini laptop with n100 for portability and build a fullgrown desktop for that price...and still have something left over for groceries...
No you couldn't
Which is I'm doing right now. I have 12" Celeron Asus E210MA which is portable enough (can be insert into a tablet pouch).. just for doing excel spreadsheets & browsing. Its battery life & lightness are great. But I also have Thinkpad laptop & a gaming PC set at home
An N100 would be a better option for price/performance, but these handhelds are mass-produced with epic profit margins so there's a lot of leeway for price reductions that won't ever come during the production run.
As for gaming, the Legion Go is the right choice over this..
@@GreedoShot
Easy.
N100 with usable spec = £130.
Peripherals are cheaper, including monitors.
This is catered to engineers and competes with the Macbook lineup more directly. I can also buy a old desktop that outperforms it, but I need that full computing power on my daily driver and don't want to be tethered to my desk and I want something as small as possible while still being usable for engineering work. The M3 Airbook is way to weak to handle heavy 3D computing and is huge in comparison to a 8 inch device.
This device has specific modular Adapative Vmware and modular ports for diagnostics. This device is like owning a Android Tablet, MacOS, Linux Laptop and Powerful Gaming PC capable of dealing with the computing heavy tasks like compiling code, exporting local builds or running through multiple automated test suites at the same time.
Point is that it's cheap for what it is, it obviously can't outperform a desktop setup, but it outperform the M4 Mac Mini in pure power in a even smaller portable form factor and has a lot of quality of life features for engineers.
This + SHADOW PC Cloud Subscription (providing you get a great internet connection) = A portable gaming rig on the go
Would love to see how well it works as a KVM. (If you can get that module). And yes, also a Linux demo with Ubuntu or Fedora would be great as well. Nice stuff.
This is awesome 😊
Miss opportunity, they should have used a mouse nub pointer and kept the function keys. This would have been better especially when in kvm mode
yes to Linux testing please. Any distro is fine really. This could actually be a useful Linux tablet too.
nah bruh im going crazy over this thing, i need it !! MAX SPECS !!!!!!!!!!!!! and to anyone who says this is expensive.... LOOK AT IT !!! IT'S MARVELOUS!!!
@@D-money813 we will both be getting if fully maxed out
Overpriced for such a limited use-case design.. and horrific ergonomics.
@@Armand79th yeah yeah yeah, pc gamers are notorious for being cheapos. im not calling you poor, no sir. I am very poor myself, I'm calling you tight pocketed!! Weird how I asked my friend who actually makes a living from IT and he can't believe it. My truck driver friend even said not a bad price
@@Armand79th horrible from your point of view but not necessarily the case for some others. It depends on your use case scenario.
What more could you want? Shoulder buttons and controller keys? Just about perfect there.
Pen support...
Giving me anxiety there with that screw driver pointing at the screen 😂
Oh man can't wait for igpu/apu/soc 370 or Z2 Extreme (both have radeon 890 gpu) inside coming Rog Ally 2. Really good igpu/apu/soc 👍❤
GPD have been killing it in this space lately, I feel like they're going to become a household name in laptop industry soon, on par with names like Asus
if they manage to low the prices more without killing their margins, then yes.
@@Just_An_Ignacio For sure, they seem to manufacture on demand in smaller batches, which adds a premium to every component. If they were to come up with one wild flagship device that they can massproduce and stock an inventory they can capture the market quickly. For now it's very niche, but very good devices
@@Just_An_Ignacio Yh, personally I also miss the pocket 2 and lower end options they made for basic use / documents they had a perfect form factor to take on the go , sadly they seem to have moved towards the more expensive higher end options for the profit margins in the niche interest that is these devices. Understandable but a shame all the same.
Overrated and overpriced.. not good support.
They churn these out in stupid numbers, so they *easily* have the capability to reduce this gouging.
They won't.
@@Armand79th overrated in your opinion. Have you ever used one in person or are you an expert tech person or engineer? The world isn't just as you see it.
i hope debian supports this machine pretty quickly. that'd be perfect for me
All I want is high 1080p 60fps at 15w in demanding games. Hopefully, the next gen apu within the next 3-4 years
you could get that performance out of a desktop gpu at 75 watts now though, its not gonna be from a apu though. Apus now can only do cyberpunk 720p low.
At this size, the resolution they chose is perfect (FSR "performance" at 50% scaling).
Also, regardless of what display I'm using, I choose (OS) UI scaling that gives me a 1280×720 look. At 1920×1080 that's 150% and at 3840×2160 that's 300%.
Ryzen Z1 Extreme will easily do that at 1080p.. without overheating, which I'll bet good money will be an issue for GPD.
@@Armand79th You think the Z1 Extreme will consistently do 1080p/60? In modern games? lol
Finally a 8.8 inch 2 in 1.
finally the power button in a correct place
will there be a version of this with a controller interface?
Could you please run same battery life tests with screen refresh rate lowered to 60Hz? I was about to order Pocket4, but other reviews suggest that battery might be as bad as 5 hours when webbrowsing, becasue of that 144Hz screen eating half of battery. Thanks!!!
That KVM Module! Would make such a cool little KVM console for servers.
Thinkpad X61S tablet swivel screen, my beloved
You have returned to me.
But darling, where is your extendable cellular antenna
Meh.. rather have an X230 or T430.
Better cooling and superior keyboard options.
This thing is just too good to be true, will love to own one day.
Nice black background Sir! 🦾😎
this is a cool form factor with the touch pad in the top right!
Man...I just bought a WinMax2 lightyly used on ebay...Love that thing. About to take it on a trip to France just because of it's size and ability to be a do-it-all. This looks niiiiiiice.
1. AI9 365 vs 8840U in iGPU
2. red dead redemption , GTA V , Control , Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark .
also hope you set the standard for game title testing , easy for us to buy the device
I would like to see the Adaptive Vmware, seamless switching between Android and MacOS with the 64gb of ram sounds like a dream for cross platform development.
Been considering just getting one of these and not touching desktops for a while. Im someone who is happy with 720p 30fps on a 24in display, so 8in display will look fantastic. In 10 years ive seen people go from agreeing with me, to ppl nowadays saying 1080 60 is the absolute minimum. People were advertised to for sure.
Imagine doing a sponsor spot on what is essentially a sponsored video. 😂
Maybe but at least he showcases a huge variety of the latest products and often better than the manufacturers do themselves. There are plenty of other channels to follow for in-depth technical and more critical reviews. ETA Prime doesn'r posiiton himself as one of them and WYSIWYG. He's good at his formula and his subscriber base speaks for itself.
No Oculink module? :/
no oculink no buy bro. such a deal breaker
would have been an instant buy with an 80wh battery or more, I can't wait for the Ally X2
Not with today's ASUS customer service...
I would have liked an integrated gamepad personally, but yes, a clamshell with decent performance and battery life would be the perfect device for me.
Agreed.
With that much battery capacity,At 15w you can get away with around 5½ hours of gaming
It would be significantly heavier with double the current battery, besides you can just use a PD powerbank to extend its battery life.
excellent review as always
lay down arch with cinnamon. would love to know if you run into any issues with that combo.
I'm not sure that it's worth the price at all... but okay... looks nice, I guess.
yup it looks very nice but the price though...
Prices during crowdfunding are expected to start at $829 for models with AMD Hawk Point processors or $1335 for models with Strix Point chips.
Not worth the excessive price, no.
Nice comprehensive video. Can you do some gaming benchmarks at 28watt plugged in?
Without it melting???
That's probably why it was capped at 18W.
those are crazy specs for a tiny computer
*crazy prices for something with virtually no support and will most likely have heat issues.
Watching this video from my Pocket 3 ....
Those GPDs are Great mini PC. Can be used as a desktop replacement one can carry anywhere, anytime. eg. on a weekend away, or alongside a job laptop during a business trip... only issue with my Pocket 3 was the i7 11th gen and its poor 4 cores that can't let it run RPCS3 well enough. But RPCS3 should fly with that new Pocket 4 and its Ryzen Strix Point !
ikr inFamous Shouldn't be a problem it'll be the thing to put my PS3 Slim into storage, yes I have legit copies and legit dumps (at one point I didn't until I was forced to get a PS3 (due to not having the horsepower on my GL for RPCS3) and Legit copies on the inFamous series
Agreed I bring mine when I go clubbing
it's such a shame they removed pen support
12:55 - A variant of Arch, preferably CachyOS (Arch compiled for optimisation). Though I guess Manjaro is always an option (easy to install, so is CachyOS as well, it's just, Manjaro's aim is to be easy to install and use, CachyOS's aim is to be better optimised for the CPU).
I can also use it for work - Swap AR glasses on, two floating screens out - Yeap! Traveling is way better now!
I stream as a hobby and have been looking for a portable set up for awhile now- unfortunately I’m dumb and am new to this scene, would this run well as a portable stream set up (OBS + external capture card/console)? Also maybe even as a portable video editing machine?
Anyways great video!!
Full cool this thing!😊
Looks like a nano thinkpad! Nice! Like!
Whilst looking *nothing* like a ThinkPad....
Boxy shape think pad old generation looking touchpad physical keys similarly shaped, plain black, big bold keys,,, I think it does!
Time for an archlinux install a pocket monster.
a grea solution from GPD such as Minisforum mini PC's. But you could keep this one as a minipc + notepad solution. I like it.
love this form factor, only thing missing is oculink -- also don't care for the webcam, tablet mode, bezels, and I wish they went with a 60% layout instead of crunching everything into "ergo", niche I know but still, one can dream
Great device, but again no Oculink 😭...why??
Because nobody uses it.
@@RolandDobbins for me lack of oculink is a dealbreaker on otherwise perfect device. Otherwise it would be perfect replacement for my Legion Go.
@@mk_quattro ROG Ally (non-X) owner here. Same topic... but sounds like there is not enough demand?! Maybe it takes a while for people to recognise the possibilities such a solution would have. Especially GPD should look into it, to provide Oculink everywhere. It makes small (powerful) devices like this one so much more versatile...
for me no oculink no buy
@@mk_quattro
Better off sticking with the Legion Go, as it doesn't thermal-throttle.
If they had the built in controllers it would be perfect
Holy heavens I don't need this at all, but certainly want it lol
OMG GPD Pocket 4 is finally here gotta say it dosen't matter for me how small that gaming laptop is because I like small portable gaming tablets that are just for gaming! How much it cost and is it on Black Friday sale? I would love to get a portable gaming laptop, but I would be fine with a handheld gaming PC like Lenovo Legion Go too and thank you for the video! 😊❤
The 32gb ram model he is using is a hair over $1k
@MrVlodato okay that's too much, but thanks for telling the price!
The Legion Go is much better value, especially for actually getting support on it.
@Armand79th and much cheaper too
This machine really needs a trackpoint!
I have a track point on my laptop and I never use it, the physical buttons get a tonne of use though!
This iGPU is almost as powerful as GTX1060. Hats off to AMD, it can basically run any latest AAA game.
I'm not looking to get something like this for a while but good god is the Steamdeck 2 gonna go SO HARD
would it hurt you to start showing more driving games like f124
I've really really really liked my WinMax 2. I never use my game controls on it though, I play a lot of keyboard/mice games on it, plugged into a USB hub and monitor. However, I use it more as a notebook and I can not go any smaller on the screen, is is the minimum I can go. I wish they'd make a computer with this size screen without the game controls. If they release a winmax 3 with game controls I'd still buy it though.
I like the GPD 😉👍🏽⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I don't understand ETA Prime's game performance test scenarios. Some games are on low, some on med, at different TDP's. I mean is he testing the battery life or game performance during the game performance test? Why not keep the TDP at 18 W, 1080P resolution and then have the game running at low/med/high settings or whatever that lets the game run at 60 ~ 90fps in that small screen. And have the same set of games for each video: a racing simulator, a fighting game, a FPS and an action RPG.
Hi ETA!
I would suggest an Arch..Maybe EndeavourOS. Then I wanted to thank you for your awesome videos.Thank you!
Looks like a niche product but if you need a full fat CPU in a 9" form factor, then you're going to be delighted with this
Not when the thermal throttling kicks in...
Does it have a camera?
Hello, thank you.
Next video suggestion. Paired, working with a 1440p Monitor with FSR (FSR) upscaling technology.
It's been here since the Switch and Steam Deck... And if you consider the recent games available on mobile, yeah it's been here for a while.
no oculink?!
yeah what a deal breaker. for me no oculink no buy
I love gpd always making cool devices
insteresting. i hope can buy this one for engineer like me.
I just got PC Crysis running Med settings on my Flip 6. If you told me 20 years ago my phone could run Crysis Id have thought it looked like a PC in a Sports Illustrated Football phone.
This decide looks nice
GPD GOAT as always!
They should've added slide-on side controllers like the Legion Go, especially with that swivel screen.
The price is a pretty eye watering 1800 dollars, damn.
If they made this in a retro beige color it would be an instant buy.
Can't wait!
Nothing with a keyboard is the future for a handheld
This is pretty incredible!
I’d love to see benchmarks on Final Fantasy 16 since it’s soooo demanding
They managed to cram an HX370 in this one?!?!?!?!?!!?
This video makes me so excited for the inevitable Minisforum V3 Mark 2. What I want from that machine is all it has now, but the HX370, an OLED panel and full size SD-card reader. And one USB A port
hopefully an Oculink module/port would be available for this thing then that would be really awesome
Why its not available? I tried to buy, but only earlier model 3 is available.
Linux! Any distro, really. Personally, I use Mint and SteamOS.