What Is Feedforward Control? | Control Systems in Practice

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
  • A control system has two main goals: get the system to track a setpoint, and reject disturbances. Feedback control is pretty powerful for this, but this video shows how feedforward control can make achieving those goals easier.
    Temperature Control in a Heat Exchange Example: bit.ly/2NJhtxw
    The error in a feedback control system is the summation of three different error sources: setpoint changes, disturbances into the system, and noise within the system. Feedforward can be used to remove a lot of the setpoint and disturbance error before it ever gets to the controller. In this way, the feedback controller can be tuned to correct for the small modeling errors in the feedforward path while still ignoring the higher-frequency noise in the system. In some systems, this combined feedforward/feedback architecture is a better system than feedback on its own.
    After watching this video, you’ll have a better understanding of what feedforward control is and why it is used. If you would like to practice the concepts from this video, this is a good tutorial that covers designing a feedforward system to control temperature in a heat exchanger.
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  • @mikhailhyde565
    @mikhailhyde565 Год назад +15

    That eye tracking analogy was one of the most impressive teaching demonstrations I've ever experienced

    • @mustafabhadsorawala652
      @mustafabhadsorawala652 Год назад

      What an intuitive way to explain different frequency disturbances, I loved it as well!

  • @JKTCGMV13
    @JKTCGMV13 4 года назад +90

    The red dot was an amazing analogy

  • @BrianBDouglas
    @BrianBDouglas 5 лет назад +132

    Hi everyone! I hope you enjoyed this video. If you have any questions or comments you'd like me to see, please leave them on this comment so that I get notified and can respond. Cheers!

    • @AymanMElsaeid
      @AymanMElsaeid 5 лет назад +3

      Hi Brian, thanks for this Brilliant explanation of Feed forward control .. i only wished you make an extension to this video where you show also an example with the feedforward through the setpoint path .. and also another example focused on the noise filtering and decoupling the noise error from setpoint and disturbance errors and how this becomes easier with feed forward (what you explained in the beginning) .. really thanks man for all your effort!!

    • @BrianBDouglas
      @BrianBDouglas 5 лет назад +4

      Thanks for the comment, Ayman. I would love to have covered those topics in this video as well but I have to balance getting in as much as possible versus making a video so long people won't sit through the whole thing! Maybe I can make a setpoint feedforward video that shows how noise is also decoupled on my channel as a suplement to this one. Cheers!

    • @AymanMElsaeid
      @AymanMElsaeid 5 лет назад +1

      @@BrianBDouglas Thanks Brian .. i'll be waiting for it ;)

    • @AymanMElsaeid
      @AymanMElsaeid 5 лет назад +1

      Sorry Brian i just watched the video again (really liked it) .. i am very interested on how to find the best causal transfer fn to approximate the inverse of the plants transfer fn .. would you happen to know some techniques for this that i can read about? Or to have already a video from your channel about this topic? .. thanks again and keep up the great work :D

    • @BrianBDouglas
      @BrianBDouglas 5 лет назад +2

      This is an informative read on the topic: buchholz.hs-bremen.de/inversion/inversion_impossible.pdf. If the system has significant dead time (that is, it's long enough that you care about it), then you can approximate the dead time first with an LTI system using a Pade approximation.

  • @Danfranschwan2
    @Danfranschwan2 5 лет назад +36

    Brian's other channel is amazing!
    Great to see that Matlab chooses from the best

  • @johncgibson4720
    @johncgibson4720 2 года назад +7

    This channel is gold. I am trying to make my Betaflight helicopter to dive with terminal speed exactly the same as CC3D controlled same craft. I look at both source code and couldn't understand if their PID schemes can be configured to be equivalent. And this episode explains the feedforward part just the way I need.

  • @cyy8913
    @cyy8913 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the brief and easy-to-understand explanation of the feed forward concept. This is going to help my next project.

  • @petrutarabuta5617
    @petrutarabuta5617 2 года назад +1

    Incredibly clear and useful. Thanks!

  • @Gurraxz
    @Gurraxz 5 лет назад +2

    Really good video! Thank you Brian!

  • @maxrichter5603
    @maxrichter5603 Год назад

    This is pure gold. Thank You!

  • @TomTalley
    @TomTalley 9 месяцев назад

    Very well done. I wish there was a feed forward controller on the youTube algorithm to increase the value to technical advertiser's for excellent technical content like yours.

  • @Zuwwar
    @Zuwwar 5 лет назад +3

    Brian Douglas; as great as always.

  • @jackmurray4669
    @jackmurray4669 5 месяцев назад

    Great explanation! This guy is a gold mine for control systems education.

  • @LimingGao
    @LimingGao 6 месяцев назад

    This video is incredibly enlightening and helpful for me. Thank you, Brian!

    • @BrianBDouglas
      @BrianBDouglas 6 месяцев назад

      I'm glad you found it helpful!

  • @MrMARS-yk1yv
    @MrMARS-yk1yv 2 года назад

    Amazing video OMG many thanks

  • @adaptine
    @adaptine 4 года назад +8

    Nice video. Ships using dynamic positioning actually uses feedforward from the wind measurement in order to counteract the gusts.

    • @steaminglobster
      @steaminglobster 3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much for this example. Helps me a lot.

  • @demisbooo743
    @demisbooo743 Год назад

    Great! Thanks a lot!

  • @ussamasajid8409
    @ussamasajid8409 4 года назад +4

    Haven't seen a better description of noise filtration than the red-dot analogy.

  • @jasonliu5592
    @jasonliu5592 3 года назад

    Please explain why at about 10:00 why y[s] shall be set to 0? y[s] shall be equal to setpoint???

  • @user-df5is8jy6n
    @user-df5is8jy6n 4 года назад

    can I send u pictures of a block diagram? there are some inputs that I don't understand. The block diagram is a reference from Process Systems
    Analysis and Control by Donald R. Coughanowr Steven E. LeBlanc Third Edition

  • @AliHassan-xt1xb
    @AliHassan-xt1xb 5 лет назад +1

    You are such a good teacher. I hope you made these videos while i was in my undergraduate. Any ways, Brian I am designing a controller for a wind turbine that will predict the wind speed ahead and adjust the out put accordingly in order to control the frequency in the power system.
    I need some help regarding that. where can I reach you?

  • @berkantceylan2071
    @berkantceylan2071 3 года назад

    Your matlap video is awesome. But I can't solve a question about feedforward. Can you help me share it here? @Brian Douglas

  • @MonkeyyRajaB
    @MonkeyyRajaB Год назад

    Hi, I have a simple plant transferfunction of 1/ms+b, a simple cruise control model for a school assignment. Now I have to use feedforward so I need the inverse of the plant transferfunction. This would be ms+b. But I cant make this in Simulink as the transferfunction block gives the error that the numerator has a higher order than denominator. Is there somebody here who can help me with this problem?

  • @dr.alikhudhair9414
    @dr.alikhudhair9414 3 года назад

    Great ..

  • @chrishughes8188
    @chrishughes8188 Месяц назад

    Is this the type of studd one learns in a control theory course?
    Also, did you use perlin noise to implement the red dot animation?

  • @tamenekebebe1959
    @tamenekebebe1959 4 года назад

    would do video on fuzzy PID controller in mat lab

  • @ved1949
    @ved1949 Год назад

    Two things that might help people understand this better.
    (i) Why is it
    0=u*Gp+D* Gd.
    The confusion is because the u in this equation is not the same as input.
    In actuality the u reffered here is actually u'.
    The actual equation is:
    Y(s)=Gp*u+Gd*D+Gd*u'
    Assuming your plant dynamics are tracking Y(s)=Gp(u)
    Gd*u'+Gp*D=0
    In other words add a perturbation to your input u called u' that perfectly cancels the disturbance response. (ii) In the end example, Brian refers to the Simulink controller as feedforward or non-feedforward.
    It is important to note that the feedforward only has disturbance rejection feedforward and not the setpoint feedforward he originally discussed in the video.

    • @luisabarca10
      @luisabarca10 2 месяца назад

      Thanks bro! I was wondering the same.

  • @kevinwood3955
    @kevinwood3955 4 года назад +3

    I noticed that you mentioned setting Y(s) = 0.Did you mean setting input-Y(s)=0 instead since we want the error to go to zero and not the output?

    • @psinha6502
      @psinha6502 3 года назад +2

      disclaimer(i might be wrong here in which case pls correct me ).
      think of a scenario where there is an output with some undesired disturbance value added in it. So to remove this particular value the change in output has to be zero. so y(s)=0 means the change in Y(s)=0 and NOT the absolute value of output Y(s)=0. so u need ur system to produce this ==original control input u(s) + an extra value (which u got after putting y(s)=0).This extra value is u(s)= d(s)*(-Gd(s)/G(p))). u multiply this with Gp(s) u get d(s)*(-Gd(s))(look at the diagram) which is exactly negative of disturbance. so adding with the disturbance(D(s)*Gd(s)) cancel each other out leaving behind the original desired y(s) corresponding to the input.

  • @uncle3xxx
    @uncle3xxx Год назад

    enjoyed

  • @foadsf
    @foadsf 2 года назад

    Isn't feed-forward just model-based control?

  • @DANA-dj7le
    @DANA-dj7le 2 года назад

    15:43 why we set "0=u*Gp+D* Gd" ?? if we do, we can't follow R. does't it? I think "R=y=u*Gp+D* Gd" is correct. doesn't it?
    if i am thinking wrong, enlight me

    • @regroff
      @regroff Год назад

      It's been a long time since you posted, but I thought I'd post in case others have the same question. This equation 0=U*GP+D*GD is really just a bit of shorthand for what he is really doing, specifically, choosing the feedforward controller by setting the transfer function Y/D to zero, which guarantees that the disturbance does not affect the output. Note that he models the disturbance as adding to the plant output (not to the plant input, which is used in some textbooks). The transfer function will be Y/D = (GFF*GP+GD)/(1+GC*GP*GS), where GFF, GD, GP, GC, and GS are transfer functions for the feedforward controller, the disturbance, the plant, the feedback controller, and the sensor, respectively. Setting this equal to zero and solving for GFF gives GFF=-GD/GP, which is the result in the video. Note that the transfer function GFF calculated this way may be improper and thus not realizable. In that case, an approximation of the transfer function would be used.

  • @IceTurf
    @IceTurf 3 года назад

    How can we just set Y[s] = 0 at 10:00? Isn't our goal to set E[s] = 0?

    • @jasonliu5592
      @jasonliu5592 3 года назад

      exactly, couldn't understand y[s]=0??????

  • @TM-bj6zh
    @TM-bj6zh 5 месяцев назад

    what is a set point change?

    • @BrianBDouglas
      @BrianBDouglas 5 месяцев назад

      That just means you are changing the goal for your system. The set point is what you system is trying to achieve and when you change that, you're changing the set point. For example, if you set a thermostat to 18 degrees then that is the set point. The is the temperature the system is trying to maintain. If you then bump it up to 20 degrees you've changed the set point.

  • @teletube999
    @teletube999 8 месяцев назад

    3:54

  • @hieuhotran994
    @hieuhotran994 Год назад

    I'm new to control theory, could anyone please tell me why do we want the controller to ignore the noise from sensor? what do you mean by "it's not real state error"?

    • @piotrmecht2500
      @piotrmecht2500 Год назад

      Because your sensor measures [real error] + [noise]
      The noise that we want to ignore affects the sensor, not the process we want to control

  • @TheSMasa
    @TheSMasa Год назад

    But I followed the red dot with ease. Does that mean I'm the cat of the controllers?