flame of despair
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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Composed by Yuki Kajiura
"How?... How did this happen to me? When did it happen? When did I become a witch?"
*love this scene so much*
***** Well as sad as it may have been for you, even you can admit it was very dramatic.
The end of the movie was a total mindfuck for me
Best scene in the move IMO. With the fire and the city crumbling and whatnot.
LUNAR LILLY how so?
I ALMOST CRIED!!!!
"Category: Education"
Well, technically that's not wrong. Homu did learn that she was a witch.
oml this made my day
You can make a science out of music and cinematography too and that music is worth being called culture.
To a song with an excerpt from the Nutcracker Suite. Fitting, since Homulilly is the Nutcracker Witch...
Today we will be learning how to realize you’re a witch
Step 1
Madoka will be considered a standard work of education in the future, much like Faust nowadays, fite me
This track gives the feeling of moving in circles.......like Homura.
I think it is supposed to do that
walpurgisnacht??
like that pumpkin :)
Google Waltz
I think when the familiars started yelling gott ist tot (god is dead) is when homura gave into despair and realized that she could never save madoka and still be with her. And when she said "Madoka, thank you for coming to a place like this" it showed what little self esteem she had. She kept telling madoka not to take herself for granted while she suffered silently and spent 12 years of her life in a loop trying to save madoka
they doesn't say "got ist tot", they scream "fort da!" wich in terms of phiolosofy means something similar.
@@arriba_teruel German here 😊 "Fort da." Means "Go away from there." 🤔 I haven't watched the series. I was just looking for the music and scrolled through comments. Idk if that makes sense in the context of the scene.
But "Gott ist tot." means "God is dead." and "Fort da." means "Go away from there." It's a bit of a more poetic slightly older wording, that was used a lot until around 100 years ago. How you would expect it to hear in older books or a theatre play.
@@danika9411it's fort da, it's a reference to Freud's studies. i think someone talks about it in the other top comments
@@yuinnewb Could you explain please? I'm german, but "fort da." together with Freud, doesn't ring a bell at all. I don't see thr connection. What has Feud to do with "go away from there"? There really is no other way to read it. "Fort" or "hinfort" ( longer version of the word ) means "go away" and "da" translates to "there" as in a place. So together it means "go away ( from ) there."
@@danika9411 very quick explanation:
i'm no expert, but Freud apparently told in a book the following tale:
a kid was always seen throwing a spool of thread yelling "Fort!", then yelling "Da!" when it would hit the floor. he would go on like that on repeat. supposedly, it was a way of the child for coping with her mother's abscence while she was at work.
in the film, there's a symbolism with some kids doing the same sort of game with a spool of thread, while "Fort!" "Da!" "Fort!" "Da!" can be heard subtly in the background music. this is often analyzed as a symbol of Homura's (black haired girl) dependency on Madoka (pink haired girl)
this is a bit vague, but i hope you understand well enough. again, people on this comment section have explained it better than me!
...Yup, I can't listen to any of Rebellion's tracks without feeling like my soul's just been crushed.
Not even the cake song?
Cake song has some dark meanings bro.
preoklenthe Mami: I'm the cheese
illkyum the cheese.Always get a lot of holes.So did mamis body after charlote chopped her head off.
@@akkuyotaisan1116 Charlotte fave food is cheese, too
"Fort! Da! Fort! Da!"
It turns out, this is tied to the Fort Da game mentioned in Sigmund Freud's work, in fact, it's mentioned again with the symbolism of the pink spool of thread... The small child he studied would cope with his mother going to work by kicking a spool of thread saying "Fort! (Go!)" and when it reached the bottom of the floor, he said "Da! (There!)" He would repeat it endlessly until his mother came home.
Perhaps Homura associates Madoka as the spool and wants her to come for her, but also wants to die so she will be safe?
fort da in german means away and got ist tot means god is dead
FORT DA is GO AWAY
Like Homura repeating timelines over and over again.
@@ericmilosavich8867 a
This series is stuffed with lore and symbolism it's unbelievable
What people fail to understand when they judge Homura for what she did is that she’s still a CHILD. Everything she’s been through hasn’t matured her, it’s only traumatized her. Of course she’d make such a selfish decision, children are selfish and one-track-minded.
Bc the thing about trauma is- it doesn’t mature you. Trauma halts your maturity, leaves you stuck in that point in time if you can’t move past it. She’s stuck trying to save the girl that saved her in that very first timeline. She could never be happy in any timeline where Madoka isn’t alive and happy.
@@missdreavus649 what's funny about this is that Homura's mental age is 26
@@nautical1397 Same chain of events for 26 years, that doesn't really make you mature much-
She didn't make a selfish decision. She asked Madoka what she wanted in one scene
Actually
Both Homura and madoka wishes are selfless
Junko: I am the ultimate despair !
Homura:....Hold madoka for me..
Hold my chibi madoka figure
Homura: am I a joke to you?
junko mid ngl
You say that like Homura would let someone else hold Madoka
whos junko?
Do you know why they call it "flame of despair"?
Homura translates to fire/flame in Japanese.
FLAME of despair.
HOMURA of/[is in] despair?
Quite clever on their part, actually.
Given the structure of japanese (which im too stupid to explain), it could also mean "Homura's Despair"
Dhskskshssj this show is so full of symbolism wtf
**sees your pfp**
More like Flame Of DesBEAR UPUPUPUPU
Homura of despair
@@theinfantmetroid you're wrong. The order here is not reversible like in many languages. You're confusing flame of despair and despair's flame
When did it even _happen_?
When did I...*_BECOME A WITCH?!_*
When you became crazy
when you choose to become a meguca, for meduka. Help meduka. Protect meduka.
@@allanpoe6213
she protec
she attac
But more important
she dont give a fac
i just love the svene when the bus starts to bursting up in flames and childrensvoices out of nowhere saying: " God id dead"
Did anyone else hear a bit of symposium magnarium in there?
Yep. Totally.
Symposium magnarium is the main despair music for madoka magika, so it would only make sense for them to make this a variation of it.
Homura's very own despair.
That's me.
....so this is my despair...........
wrong song lol
AngelsofScythe
it's not the song I just love the quote by Homura,I know how the song sounds like ;)
LOL oh ok XD i was like "uhhhhhhh meow?"
viki vik try to listen naruto ost soundtrack despair ~
will do thanks
First time I watched Rebellion, during this scene, I was like damn it they really went there.. They made the Evangelion of magical girl anime.
Gosh, Yuki Kajiura never ceases to amaze me, I'm in love with her music!
i love that this sounds like symposium magarum
edit: fixed typo.
Fort! Da!
Fort! Da!
Fort! Da!
Gott ist tot.
Sie verherrlichen den Tod
away! god is dead!
Florida florida
@@RotGirl-lol ah yes Clara dolls: *fLoRiDa*
今日まで何度も繰り返して、傷つき苦しんできた全てが、まどかを思ってのことだった！だからもう今では痛みさえ愛おしい…！これこそが人間の感情の極み…希望よりも熱く、絶望よりも深いもの…！愛よ！
This part, the part where Kyoko and Sayaka hold hands and the part when Homura catches Madoka are the best bits of the film and are accompanied by some dope music 😙😍
One of the most beautiful parts is Homura and Madoka's first meeting in the movie, that is lovely. But, Rebellion was ment to be a love story.
This sounds like a rearranged version of Oktavia's theme...
Because it is.
oktavia's theme has more anger and sadness within the song imo. this one has similar notes but it de/crescendo a lot. it seems like it's in a constant circle. it's sound almost maniacal combined with sadness. anyone would go crazy repeating the same timeline over and over while continuously failing. when the ending gets suddenly quiet and ends, it seems like this is where she accepts her fate. the number of times homura had to pick herself up with no one to vent to is incredibly sad.
It's like a mix of Homulily and Oktavia's theme(?)
Yeah you can especially hear it around 00:28 - 00:31
I always thought this song's title was cool and stuff but I just came to realize and remembered the name "Homura" meant "Flame" and that made shit get 10 times more real
Rebellion in two sentences
Everyone: Homura, chill out.
Homura: Nah.
thank god tomato didnt make an appearance in this video
William S. Toledo
XD Why you gotta hate on poor Tomato-chan?
+Mathemagics Tomato-chan? 😂
+SweetPockyStick Toma-tan works too :>
+Mathemagics XD
Homura is getting bullied by Tomato-chan. :(
No tomato.
Not fair.
I came, just to see if there was a tomato! I was disappointed!
When i first watched the series (2days ago) I thought it was a recent release, because damn that quality was top tier in my opinion. Especially rebellion. So many plot twists as well. And the ending was unexpected entirely
sauce?
@@mealyys I'm surprised you ended up listening to it without knowing, but the anime is Madoka Magica and Madoka Magica Rebellion is its sequel. Both masterpiece
@@aloisssssss it was a banger so it'd be a crime not to listen to it & i appreciate i couldnt find anything about it. appreciate it :)
How shitty the most today's anime are so even certain titles that came out in 2011 are better than most stuff novadays.
I know another magical girl show that was ahead of its time, which was among the numerous inspirations for Madoka Magica and later referenced it back. It is called Black★Rock Shooter. The 2010 OVA has the same position in the BRS franchise as Madoka concept trailer in MadoMagi universe. The real fun is in 2012 TV series. This is the only show that was able to replicate Madoka's appeal while having its own style. Other post-mahou shoujo shows were either blatant garbage rip-offs (Yuki Yuna is a Hero), did not focus on actual drama (Fate/Kaleid, Mahou Shoujo Site) or are simply shit. BRS was the only anime that was able to surpass Madoka Magica, just like Shadows House surpasses The Promised Neverland in every imaginable dimension. Sadly, it was never accepted by the general public because it was too confusing for its production value and nobody understood that they were actually watching an exceptionally high budget arthouse.
I always hear this and think a ballet could be choreographed to this
I feel like a whole ballet could be made from the anime itself 😔😶
I hope it does in Walpurgisnacht rising since Madoka might start dancing ballet
No
That's Tchaikovsky. Kajiura-sensei stole his music for Rebellion
I'm from austria...
10/10 would dance at the opera in Vienna.
Whenever i see the word despair i just-
* Junko Enoshima laughing in the background *
Yeah that
i thoUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
SHSL RWBY SAMEEEE
Monokyubey
Vedji oh no
Oh boy, don't forget about me!
(Even though uh, I watched Madoka Magica first, it's been imprinted on my brain)
"when did it even happen..?"
Monokuma: DID SOMEONE SAY DESPAIR???
Upupupupupu~
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Monokuma confirmed incubator
please don't RP with me, i don't want to contract cancer at a young age.
I feel as if it's MEANT to sound kind of like Symposium Magarum or "She is a Witch." Given the circumstances, I wouldn't doubt it.
Still one of my favorite scenes of anything, ever.
Fort... da... Fort... da... Fort. da Fort. da. Fort! da! Fort! da!
I can hear the "Fo DAH!"s in my head.
... it doesn't sound right without the 'Fort Da!.. Fort Da!'...part
The hollownes and the desesperation lives in this song.
I wanted nothing more than for that kind of world to be real. Madoka was happy, Sayaka moved on from Kyousuke, and Mami never had to be alone again. It was logical for it to be my Labyrinth. But everything that happened was all me. All my fault. All my fault...
Homura Akemi Homura! You're the best. Good choice. Though, a bit crazy.
don't be mad at me •u•
(WTF look) You didn't read my comment, did you? I don't LIKE being a demon! My sanity slipping, the nightmares, the Clara Dolls frequently whispering, "You betrayed her...", the look of terror on Madoka's face when I betrayed her! I have come to terms with my own death. You didn't really think I was planning to survive Walpurgis Nacht if Madoka was happy and safe? But since that's not an option, Madoka will have no choice but to hate and kill I, Homura Akemi, the Devil of this world, and the biggest threat to her safety. Oh, don't tell me...You actually ADMIRE what I've done?! You make me sick...
Homura Akemi I don't like what you've done. But I don't absolutely hate it.
While it is true that I would love nothing more than for Madoka to be happy and safe, the truth is that what I did was WRONG...
Homura Akemi Yea.
ok, so listening to a playlist, comment on last song said play at 0.5 speed, was ok. skipped to next song. This came on. At 0.5 speed. Sweet jesus it scared the life out of me.
+Kherron201 I just turned it onto 0.5 XD It's not THAT bad, I guess
the bit of "symposium magarum" (oktavia's theme) at the end...
" When did i become a witch ? "
The Symposium Magarum motif tho
" there is no demon or metaphysical relationship that is more powerful or important than the needs of our shared environment "
"YOU PLANNED ALL OF THIS!!"
◉ .̮ ◉
Why did I read this and scream "KYUBATOR"
It's interesting how at the end of this track there's a sequence of Symposium Magarum, the theme of Oktavia.
Somebody actually edited it perfectly so flame of despair would seamlessly transition to Symposium Magarum
Can't listen to this without hearing the "Fort! Da!" XD
I just kept hearing
Five.
FOUR!
FOUR!
FOUR!
Liam White You mean Fort! Da! right?
How long have I been a witch?
Felt like listening to this after my university screwed me over by increasing number of subject I have to undertake and I had to grovel to overload this semester just to have a chance of completing on time.
καὶ τὸ φῶς ἐν τῇ σκοτίᾳ φαίνει
καὶ ἡ σκοτία αὐτὸ οὐ κατέλαβεν
(And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not)
The beginning sound like she's going circles but near the end it sound like bumps like bumps in what she want until it came to an end
0:56
666k views and 6.6k likes? She's a witch
man i love violins.
NEW MOVIE🖤
I love this kinda of music. I know its orchestral, but what sub-genre is this type of music called?
Kajiuran. Yuki [composer of Madoka Magica's OST] has a very particular style.
This would be a waltz style if you're looking for specific orchestral style.
Kajiurago maybe.
Yeah I was gonna say it’s a waltz too. It’s the rhythmic pattern of 3/4 time (3 beats per measure) so the waltz is the song structure.
Waltzes lend themselves to this kind of sound because of the structure. Take a listen to Waltz for the Moon (from Final Fantasy VIII). It’s got a different vibe but it’s got some similarities to this song and Symposium Magarum (also a waltz iirc).
ballet i guess
素晴らしく素晴らしい‥
why did it sound like symposium magnarium to my ear? xD
Because it is remixed from Symposium Magarum.
I love this franchise and this song. It makes me feel insidious in the best way lol.
Just realized by reading comments it's "fort da!“ and not "Folter!“ ._.
0:22 to 0:24 sounds like a part from the 2001 Anne Frank movie
JACK IS BACK
Me in real life: When did I...
become a bitch??
It's a lovely waltz, who do you suppose Homura is waltzing with?
Meduka
An eternal waltz with despair. Every step she takes leading her further away from Madoka. How sad, how ironic. A lonely waltz for Madoka. An eternal waltz for the Goddess
Either Kyubey, her despair or her own insanity
Become meguca is suffering
1:38 Symposium magarum??
the tomato got cropped out
this unironically sounds like umineko music. like it would play for the first twilight of ep5
It is a cover on Tchaikovsky's Waltz of flowers IIRC.
Homura did nothing wrong.
演奏を生で聞きたい…(´；ω；｀)
There's a little hint of Sis Puella Magica in the beginning so I thought "Hey, it's a fucked up Sis Puella".
Thinking about it more, it's really poetic because Sis Puella Magica means Be a Magical Girl, meanwhile its messed up counterpart, Flames of Despair, plays as Homura is becoming a witch.
me:why hameru after meduka became meguca to become hope
Rebellion be like
“Hameru soul jim turn to grif sid”
“No. I become. SETAN.”
HERMOSA
Omg i finally found it
ほむら…
When you realize that all these victoires were played in unranked matches....
"Flame of Love' would be more appropriate.
Homura is flame in Japanese. It's Homura's Despair, which in my opinion, suits it best.
1:35
Oh...
aha
ahaha
ahahaha
i don't like mermaids.
@@lorebleh Me neither tbh, especially when their name starts with S or O
Happy Madoka's Birthday.
I feel a bit Fur Elise
bruh yuki kaijura is god or what the hell
That smile reminds me to Sayaka...
It is like the variation of Brahms
Yuki Kajiura besto waifu
That part in the very end from Symposium Magarum. Holy shit.
fucking love this owo
Why does this remind me so much of Shiro SAGISU?
Yep
Flame of despair you mean Homura Despair
Flame of despair has a meaningful description to Homura. Her name means “fire”. Her poor soul gem isn’t blackened with darkness.. but by flames 🔥.
just something worth bringing up but there's zero point in you putting the fair use clause in here when nothing about this is under that.
Damian Freeman Well in case you didn't notice, this is a comment section, where some people are actually commenting on the music. And in the fair use clause, one of the allowed purposes is for comment.
***** Yeaaah that's not technically correct.If that line of reasoning worked then there would be nothing illegal in uploading entire movies to youtube.
Damian Freeman Then it's a bit of a loosely worded, poorly written law if I can so easily make such a reasonable interpretation which circumvents it. .
***** believe me, you may find it reasonable but it isn't. No court would agree with you.
Damian Freeman Then it's a bad law. If I can make a reasonable interpretation that a court would throw out, then they need to word the law better. Might as well defy it to better expose how poorly worded it is.
This song is a re-arranged version of Sayaka's witch song.
I want to look like how this song sounds
I like the opposites of homura and sayaka's wishes, sayaka's wish was selfless, homura's wish was selfish
No, on the contrary, Sayaka's desire to restore her boyfriend's health was selfish, Homura wanted to save her friends. She didn't indulge in hedonism like Kyouko, didn't become an obedient tool of Kyuubey like Mami, didn't go crazy like Sayaka, Homura literally laid down her life for her friends.
@@IvanIvanouvfriend* she literally only cares about Modoka, her wish was selfish
@@sammysquid3702, No, she saves them all. You have childish ideas about selfishness. And we should remember the resistance she faces from them.
@@IvanIvanouvpeople like you want Homura to be the good guy so bad that you twist the narrative, she wasn’t a good person at the end of the day what you look at that it (not saying she’s a bad person just not a good one ether)
ちょっとオクタヴィアのメロディ入ってるのはなんでなんだろうか
本当の願いとその気持ちからかけ離れた結末を迎える事になったって意味では2人とも似た者同士だから…？
Homura did nothing wrong
What people don't realize is that Homura has been clinging to her faith in Madoka until the last second. She even accepted her fate as a witch just so madoka could leave. But her friends denied her that and saved her. This shows you very well how there were no place really for "OG-interpretation" of Homura as stoic and religious in Madoka's world. This implied that Homura never getting her wish is OK and ignored the fact that Madoka wished for the hopes of ALL girls to come true. Homura is a magical girl too, you know.
> After Madoka's wish, Homura's wish became impossible to achieve and her despair became insatiable.
Speaking of that. I don't think Madoka could purify Homura's gem even if she attempted to. That's just my theory, but i think it's close to the reason why Urobuchi tossed out "Homura joins Madoka in heavens" ending. Imagine yourself as Homura when Madokami comes to you. THE SOURCE OF YOUR DESPAIR IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES. Not only you failed to prevent Madoka to become magical girl (as you promised), thanks to all YOU did she is now obliged to fight all the witches alone, for an eternity.
Your despair is Madoka bearing an unthinkable burden, and that's the burden Madoka has come to take from you? That is nonsense.
@@KotMatrosk1n I feel like Homuras ideology is becoming more and more relatable for every comment section I read
1:06-1:09 reminds me a lot of Brahms
Ironically, Homura's name means "flame", so... the song shows the despair from Homura. Or... Homura of despair
this is just depressed absolute configuration
I came here from the underline dub.
何かめっちゃオクタヴィアのテーマに似てない？
ホムホムが魔女だと気づいた時の曲だけど どことなく似てる