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Fun fact: the Huangmeidong (east) station sits exactly at the junction of two high speed lines with three different management companies: the Huangmeidong station itself and the line section (part of Beijing-Hong Kong High Speed Line) north of the station is operated by China Railway Shanghai Group Co.,Ltd, while the line of your G3119 train before entering the station（Huanggang-Huangmei High Speed Line）is operated by China Railway Wuhan Group Co.,Ltd, and the adjacent line joining in from the south before entering the station in 9:55 (another section of Beijing-Hong Kong High Speed Line) is operated by China Railway Nanchang Group Co.,Ltd. All of the three management entities are subsidiaries of China Railway Co.,Ltd (similar to JR East, JR West, JR Tokai, etc.) and in charge of respective railway networks of merely 2-3 provinces. And it’s uncommon that one station serves as the ‘management boundaries’ of up to three railway corporations in Chinese railway networks.
@ Over 95% of railways in China (excluding metros, trams networks of major cities) are fully state owned, it’s not likely that Chinese railways would ever be privatized since there exists substantial demands for long distance rail travels that could be easily over 1000km and privatization would only result in huge segmentation of national railway networks with the reduction of long distance and non-profitable train services（usually serving remote and less populated regions）, more complicated ticking systems and more transfers. However there are exceptions that two high speed railways in Zhejiang province share joint venture with private capitals: Hangzhou-Taizhou High Speed Line and Hangzhou-Wenzhou High Speed Line，as a result of the reform policies carried out in 2015.
@@never4ever386 Because metros and trams in China are generally isolated from national railway networks, cities would have their respective own one or multiple companies to operate metros and trams, and there are more than 50 of these companies throughout the country, their shareholding structures vary significantly, here we’re just talking about national railway networks.
Thanks for the review. It's always fascinating to see Chinese trains. Had a pleasure myself to ride some of the lines and it's easily the best system worldwide, not only the largest.
CR never wanted high speed push-pull EMUs like the TGV. They chose that configuration for the conventional lower speed lines, the CR200J. As for the Talgo, well, China Railways high-speed has no low-floor entry problem, so why choose that miserable Talgo bogie? The CRH5 itself is also a chaperone option, chosen to put pressure on Siemens to lower the price of the Velaro.
Another reason of buying CRH5 is to cope the harsh winter in the northeast China, Finnish Railway SM3 which the model CRH5 based works well in those winter conditions
@szm-qf4lp Indeed, so that's why the unofficial nickname of this type is "donkey" in China, cause not only it looks and rides like a donkey, but also it works reliably in harsch climate like Tibet, NE and NW China.
@@NonstopEurotrip The CR200J was actually called “the trash can" by Chinese rail fans because the livery looks like trash cans in China. Many people complain about them for the low speed and higher ticket cost because those trains replaced the 25 series trains with an upgraded train code from z/k/t to d, which stands for EMU while running at the same speed. Overall, that's far different from TGV. The main reason is probably either TGV did not participate in the campaign for the high-speed rail program in China many years ago or they didn't win it...
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Wow as one of your viewers and a Chinese railway enthusiast i couldn’t have imagined you could be so close to where I live while taking this G3119 service😂. I live in a city exactly 40km south to Huangmei (which is in fact the easternmost county in Hubei province), on the south bank of Yangtze River (while Huangmei is on the north bank and we share similar dialects). Anyway wish you a pleasant journey in China, and there’s way more to explore in Chinese railway network😊
I'm always impressed when it comes to China and their progress. I like big cities and megaprojects, and there's an abundance of it. On top of that, everything feels advanced and modern. I guess that's how Japan looked like to people in the 80s.
Japan ( my country ) had bullet train concept ready in late 1950's & had bullet trains in 1960's !! We had flat tvs & tiny cellphones in 1990's !! 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
Indeed, I just wish that we weren't told they are environmentally friendly, they are not. Especially when so empty so the CO2 per traveller goes up. Bicycles in China pre 2000 were environmentally friendly, this is just less bad for the environment than the mass of cars and planes over there now.
@NonstopEurotrip Well...we gave 'em the engineering/ technology ,you know that right ? Japan has been helping so many other countries with our technology for decades ,not only trains,for earthquake engineering, like bridges which can withstand huge magnitudes, etc. And made in China has been so many issues for decades ,that remains the same for trains !! So,many countries which asked China to help 'em to make fast speed trains are regretting now as they broke down !! Lol 💜
10:22 It's a pleasant surprise that there are foreigners who can know this interesting fact about Beijing bei and Nanjing nan, thanks for doing a lot of research!
Well China prefer the ICE3 (CRH3) and Shinkansen (CRH2) and involve them with Chinese own technology and created CR300/400BF and CR300/400AF respectively
As for Talgos, isn't their whole purpose related to ability to change gauges? Spain has multiple gauges (Iberian+Standard) and needed a solution which Talgo delivered. China on the other hand only uses Standard gauge, so there is no need for trains that can ride on different gauges.
@@paulthiel5145 sure, but reputation and image matter. Not least because of train reviewers like the owner of this channel, as well as a bunch of similar influential channels. Thanks to them, people are getting more aware of train models and their differences. These kind of things directly influence my own choices when it comes to buying train tickets. For example I bet none of us would want to travel on Talgo Avril, but would be more than happy to ride ETR1000 or any of the newer Siemens Velaro models. Railway companies must also be aware that passengers prefer good trains over shitty ones.
The thing with vegetarian options in China is that aside from Buddhists, vegetarianism is nearly nonexistent. If you think about it, it hasn't even been 30 years since Chinese people can afford to have meat whenever they want. I think you can see why no one is bothering with vegetarianism yet. Still, I think CR can do a better job and offer a tofu option for business class, maybe as a special request, but it should exist alongside a halal option.
Vegetarian options have been existing in China for centuries, and it has not been Buddhists exclusive since day one, and Chinese make way better vegetarian food than any other, second to none, if you know where to find them. Many of the nowadays Chinese food are past on from the ancient time, when ordinary people could not afford meat whenever they want even more, but still people could not care less and create a variety of food, and that's why Chinese eat almost every part of all kinds of animal, to make the best of them and no waste. This whole "no one is bothering with vegetarianism YET because it hasn't even been 30 years since Chinese people can afford to have meat whenever they want" is just way too funny, mate.
@@cheungchingtong That's true, but most people in China think of meat as a luxury. Especially on a business product, not serving meat would a crime. It's almost like having a McDonald's option in first class. People would just think you're weird. I'm speaking as a Chinese person. But the sentiment is changing slowly due to health, environmental, and ethical concerns. But again, it's just unlikely to happen anytime soon and I don't see why China Railways has to comply with the expectations of foreigners! If you'd like vegetarian options, generally the less premium services provide you with plenty of choices.
I am Japanese ex vegan for 17 years & a vegetarian for 16 years & I know a lot of those & familiar w Chinese works / techniques of make fake meats looking real authentic ! I've been to several Chinese vegan/ vegetarian restaurants in L.A.( where I live )& Tokyo ( originally from there ) ! They are truly amazing ,unfortunately not many places do that anymore as those people who learn & make 'em are not enough ,they are phasing !! I love Chinese & Italian foods the best !! Ironically, Chinese aren't really vegan/ vegetarian friendly in general ! But,to be very honest, the best vegan dishes exist in KYOTO,Japan !! It's called " SHOJIN RYOURI " ( it used to be for buddhist monks ) It's a full course dishes & they come in tiny dishes& small bowls ,etc. They do rounds ,it continues like 8 to 12 ? rounds ,you get real stuffed in the middle !! Lol. Some are prepared/ cooked for days & they are real food ,not like those fake meat stuffs or processed foods !! They use locally grown vegetables & seasonal foods. The best way to eat !! Non organic,though ! Truly the very best vegan foods in the world !!! And many of 'em are affordable even. 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
Chinese has been very good at making fake meats looking real authentic ! Ironically Chinese aren't really vegan / vegetarian friendly .I have been to those restaurants that serve vegan meat dishes made by Chinese people here in L.A.& Tokyo .But,real truly the best vegan dishes is in KYOTO ,called " SHOUJIN RYOURI" ( it used to be for buddhist monks to eat in ancient times )It's a full course meal come in small plates / bowls,they do rounds ,it continues for about an hour ,you get full in the middle . They're usually expensive ,but you can find it at affordable prices ,too ! Truly amazing ,they prepare & cook some dishes for days ! They are not those highly processed fake meats ,either . They present truly artistic things & use locally grown & seasonal vegetables . The best way to eat !! Not organic,though .( some ) A lot vegan chefs & restaurant owners go to Kyoto to study the best vegan foods !! 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
China did have a train that was similar to a Talgo, it was literally mix between a Talgo kinda (front end) and ICE-1(bodyshell and coaches). The train was called the "China Star" and was China's first record breaking high speed train running at speeds of upto 170mph (270km/h) between Shenyang and Qinhuangdao from 2002-2006 however due to signaling mismatches and electrical problems the train was decommissioned in 2007 and is now at the Beijing railway museum!
where is the animated GIF meme thing on RUclips of a guy holding a mic with a shocked facial expression... you have missed out on the crown jewel of Wuhan station, the MASSIVE "living museum" as you get into the main Departures Hall (not the two halls to the side). No seating, but you don't need anything close... trains are on the move almost all the time and it is absolutely amazing. It is probably the sole station in China (at least the major hubs) that have this huge living museum of trains - and you can see it in action. ACHTUNG: it is VERY easy to miss your train if you are hooked onto this, which most of us are - or WILL be!!...
Fun fact: CRH380BL achieved the record speed of 487.3km/h during test run on Beijing-Shanghai HSR in 2011 (train modified to 8M4T) and it still holds the record of fastest train in China today 😃 though its operation speed is limited to 310km/h
The main problem with the CRH3C/380B is the poor 'wall facing' seats due to the layout. The Velaro's window pitch was originally designed for European configurations, but the Chinese version has all the reversible seats with a much wider pitch from front to back, resulting in a mismatch between the seat-river windows and some seats having virtually no window view and becoming wall-facing.
@@NonstopEurotrip Yeah for me either, but for some people who are used to Shinkansen-style perfect window matching, it's a bit of a pain. That's why CR has put some effort into the CR400/300 series and the third-generation CR200J (white livery with reversible seats) for a more even window match.
@@randommusic4567 And it's proof of the Velaro's solid capabilities. Although not as efficient as the CRH380A with Shinkansen origins, it's still one of the most popular platforms from CR's point of view. CR Shanghai, which has the most EMUs of any CR bureaus, has tons of them.
I don't think I'm ever likely to travel on it , but I'd love to see a review of the high Tibetan plateau railway. I think that's the one I've seen that was incredibly difficult to build.
I know the business class option from Austria's "Railjet", also built by Siemens. It's a 7-car push/pull train operated with a Siemens Taurus (the new 2nd generation is planed to be operated with Siemens Vectron locomotives)
These interiors are more like a Luxury Hotel than anything moving, other than an ocean liner. thing the do China seems to have leapt ahead, especially in infrastructure projects, the scale of everything they do is mind blowing.
4:44 TGVs and Telgos are power-centralized EMUs - meaning the engines are located on locomotive(s) at one or both ends. Currently, all Chinese high-speed EMUs are power-distributed, which means engines are placed under several carriages. China Railway did not take the technical route of using power-centralized EMUs for high speed operation, mainly because the axle load is too high on the locomotives, which makes maintainance more difficult; also the dedicated locomotive makes it less economical because the locomotive cannot carry passengers (obviously). China do operate power-centralized EMUs though, but currently only on regular-speed railways, with the top speed not exceeding 160kph. You can see one at 18:03 - the train just across the platform is a power-centralized EMU, the CR200J type EMU.
Great trip. Like ICE3 when they already on Neighbours country, especially France, this Velaro Train can enjoy their operational speed rather than in their own country. Not the fastest but looks like in the past this train became backbone of High Speed Train in China before the replacement into brand new train. Even though Shanghai Hongqiao is far from city centre, but it well integrated because the High Speed Train Station and the Airport is definitely on same land (I don't know there's still international flights from there, since most international flights to Shanghai landed at Pudong).
China Railways are amazing. I've travelled between Tianjin and Beijing on their highspeed trains, travelling at 347kph. We travelled in 2nd class and it was fine. A word to the wise: if you see "zh" in a place name, it's pronounced as though it is "J" - e.g. Hangzho is pronounced Hang-Jo.
actually on the point of no dynamic pricing, that is actually not entirely true, on certain long distance HSR sleeper trains that pass through guangdong railway's territory they do operate on dynamic pricing and some routes can basically double or triple in prices
can be summed up as average guangdong shenanigans, some routes that passes through guangzhou have even been timetabled to stop service at guangzhou and change train numbers just so guangdong can sell the second departing itinerary at a higher price, but in general trains in guangdong are more expensive than the rest of the country
I think that's not the dynamic pricing he means. The dynamic pricing he means the price changes on different time. It's cheaper if you book early and it gets expensive when it's getting closer to departure date.
that was just additional info i added on because i didnt think i needed to explain how dynamic pricing works to an international audience that know it well..?
As much as an improvement Brightline is, I'm not confident that it offers anything that would impress foreigners enough to draw them all the way to the US to do a review (unless they are on the way to somewhere else, e.g. to review the new Mexican Yucatan railroad, but he's done that already). In any case several RUclips reviews of Brightline have already been done comprehensively and not much more can be said about it.
@@markusmack The original Siemens model (CRH3C/Velaro CN) was the basis for this improved version (CRH380B), which was licensed from Siemens. The Chinese made their own tweaks to it, obviously with Siemens’s approval. The first two sets were made in Germany (CRH3C-3002 and 3004), but all the other trains were manufactured by CRRC Tangshan/Changchun in China.
That was remarkably empty - was it at some really unpopular time of day? Every time I've got one of those trains they have been pretty full, and especially getting a business class seat can be pretty frustrating.
@@NonstopEurotrip you do visit communist ones that use slave labor and 🍇 as a form of criminal justice though....interesting hill to stand on. Knowing the history of Russia and their view on Notsees that is an interesting label to use for them.
"eco friendly travel" --- I don't think so. Google "ecological cost of making one ton of concrete". Love your videos btw which are enhanced by your voice.
I have always found it easier to improve on an idea that somebody else had than come up with an original idea myself. That seems to be the case here and now we can't stop bragging about it.
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Travelling on the Chinese high-speed trains is definitely on my bucket list
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It's an amazing experience!
Waiting for you in China❤
@@NonstopEurotripWaiting for you to come to China🇨🇳
Fun fact: the Huangmeidong (east) station sits exactly at the junction of two high speed lines with three different management companies: the Huangmeidong station itself and the line section (part of Beijing-Hong Kong High Speed Line) north of the station is operated by China Railway Shanghai Group Co.,Ltd, while the line of your G3119 train before entering the station（Huanggang-Huangmei High Speed Line）is operated by China Railway Wuhan Group Co.,Ltd, and the adjacent line joining in from the south before entering the station in 9:55 (another section of Beijing-Hong Kong High Speed Line) is operated by China Railway Nanchang Group Co.,Ltd. All of the three management entities are subsidiaries of China Railway Co.,Ltd (similar to JR East, JR West, JR Tokai, etc.) and in charge of respective railway networks of merely 2-3 provinces. And it’s uncommon that one station serves as the ‘management boundaries’ of up to three railway corporations in Chinese railway networks.
Are these train companies still fully state owned?
@ Over 95% of railways in China (excluding metros, trams networks of major cities) are fully state owned, it’s not likely that Chinese railways would ever be privatized since there exists substantial demands for long distance rail travels that could be easily over 1000km and privatization would only result in huge segmentation of national railway networks with the reduction of long distance and non-profitable train services（usually serving remote and less populated regions）, more complicated ticking systems and more transfers. However there are exceptions that two high speed railways in Zhejiang province share joint venture with private capitals: Hangzhou-Taizhou High Speed Line and Hangzhou-Wenzhou High Speed Line，as a result of the reform policies carried out in 2015.
@@davidschuster5996 why are metros and trams excluded?
@@never4ever386 Because metros and trams in China are generally isolated from national railway networks, cities would have their respective own one or multiple companies to operate metros and trams, and there are more than 50 of these companies throughout the country, their shareholding structures vary significantly, here we’re just talking about national railway networks.
@@davidschuster5996 I meant why are they excluded from being fully state owned?
Thanks for the review. It's always fascinating to see Chinese trains. Had a pleasure myself to ride some of the lines and it's easily the best system worldwide, not only the largest.
@@DS.J by far 😀👍🏻
CR never wanted high speed push-pull EMUs like the TGV. They chose that configuration for the conventional lower speed lines, the CR200J. As for the Talgo, well, China Railways high-speed has no low-floor entry problem, so why choose that miserable Talgo bogie? The CRH5 itself is also a chaperone option, chosen to put pressure on Siemens to lower the price of the Velaro.
Exactly 💯
Another reason of buying CRH5 is to cope the harsh winter in the northeast China, Finnish Railway SM3 which the model CRH5 based works well in those winter conditions
@szm-qf4lp Indeed, so that's why the unofficial nickname of this type is "donkey" in China, cause not only it looks and rides like a donkey, but also it works reliably in harsch climate like Tibet, NE and NW China.
@@NonstopEurotrip The CR200J was actually called “the trash can" by Chinese rail fans because the livery looks like trash cans in China. Many people complain about them for the low speed and higher ticket cost because those trains replaced the 25 series trains with an upgraded train code from z/k/t to d, which stands for EMU while running at the same speed. Overall, that's far different from TGV. The main reason is probably either TGV did not participate in the campaign for the high-speed rail program in China many years ago or they didn't win it...
I love the fact that the seats face the direction of travel. I get motion sick sometimes sitting in a backwards direction.
That's a big advantage, yes!
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Wow as one of your viewers and a Chinese railway enthusiast i couldn’t have imagined you could be so close to where I live while taking this G3119 service😂. I live in a city exactly 40km south to Huangmei (which is in fact the easternmost county in Hubei province), on the south bank of Yangtze River (while Huangmei is on the north bank and we share similar dialects). Anyway wish you a pleasant journey in China, and there’s way more to explore in Chinese railway network😊
Very cool and thanks for sharing. I love China and will be back very soon 👀
Enjoy your series of China's trains, nicely paced video, non of the histrionics of other YT videos. Can't wait for the CR450 to debut and your review.
Oh me too, it's gonna be amazing!
I'm always impressed when it comes to China and their progress. I like big cities and megaprojects, and there's an abundance of it. On top of that, everything feels advanced and modern. I guess that's how Japan looked like to people in the 80s.
Japan ( my country ) had bullet train concept ready in late 1950's & had bullet trains in 1960's !! We had flat tvs & tiny cellphones in 1990's !! 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
Indeed, I just wish that we weren't told they are environmentally friendly, they are not. Especially when so empty so the CO2 per traveller goes up. Bicycles in China pre 2000 were environmentally friendly, this is just less bad for the environment than the mass of cars and planes over there now.
@@zakelwe Chinese are counting all renewable energy in the next 30-40 years. Fossil fuel power station will be only for peak shaving.
Japan was far ahead before but now china has overtaken, especially with trains. But Japan is still far ahead of all of Europe
@NonstopEurotrip Well...we gave 'em the engineering/ technology ,you know that right ? Japan has been helping so many other countries with our technology for decades ,not only trains,for earthquake engineering, like bridges which can withstand huge magnitudes, etc. And made in China has been so many issues for decades ,that remains the same for trains !! So,many countries which asked China to help 'em to make fast speed trains are regretting now as they broke down !! Lol 💜
10:22 It's a pleasant surprise that there are foreigners who can know this interesting fact about Beijing bei and Nanjing nan, thanks for doing a lot of research!
I aim to please 🙏🏻
Maybe China didn't want the rough riding Talgos.
Exactly this ahaha
Even the non-tilting Pendolino (CRH5) and Regina (CRH1) are being criticized in China for the worst interior and ride quality.
Well China prefer the ICE3 (CRH3) and Shinkansen (CRH2) and involve them with Chinese own technology and created CR300/400BF and CR300/400AF respectively
As for Talgos, isn't their whole purpose related to ability to change gauges? Spain has multiple gauges (Iberian+Standard) and needed a solution which Talgo delivered. China on the other hand only uses Standard gauge, so there is no need for trains that can ride on different gauges.
and also probably about the talgos carriage height too
Plenty of Talgo trains operate around the world in countries that have just one track gauge.
@@paulthiel5145 Which is odd, because Talgo are infamous for horrible ride quality.
@DS.J they probably make an interesting commercial offer to operators. In the end it's all about the money, not the comfort for these companies 😉
@@paulthiel5145 sure, but reputation and image matter. Not least because of train reviewers like the owner of this channel, as well as a bunch of similar influential channels. Thanks to them, people are getting more aware of train models and their differences. These kind of things directly influence my own choices when it comes to buying train tickets. For example I bet none of us would want to travel on Talgo Avril, but would be more than happy to ride ETR1000 or any of the newer Siemens Velaro models. Railway companies must also be aware that passengers prefer good trains over shitty ones.
The thing with vegetarian options in China is that aside from Buddhists, vegetarianism is nearly nonexistent. If you think about it, it hasn't even been 30 years since Chinese people can afford to have meat whenever they want. I think you can see why no one is bothering with vegetarianism yet. Still, I think CR can do a better job and offer a tofu option for business class, maybe as a special request, but it should exist alongside a halal option.
Vegetarian options have been existing in China for centuries, and it has not been Buddhists exclusive since day one, and Chinese make way better vegetarian food than any other, second to none, if you know where to find them. Many of the nowadays Chinese food are past on from the ancient time, when ordinary people could not afford meat whenever they want even more, but still people could not care less and create a variety of food, and that's why Chinese eat almost every part of all kinds of animal, to make the best of them and no waste. This whole "no one is bothering with vegetarianism YET because it hasn't even been 30 years since Chinese people can afford to have meat whenever they want" is just way too funny, mate.
@@cheungchingtong That's true, but most people in China think of meat as a luxury. Especially on a business product, not serving meat would a crime. It's almost like having a McDonald's option in first class. People would just think you're weird. I'm speaking as a Chinese person. But the sentiment is changing slowly due to health, environmental, and ethical concerns. But again, it's just unlikely to happen anytime soon and I don't see why China Railways has to comply with the expectations of foreigners! If you'd like vegetarian options, generally the less premium services provide you with plenty of choices.
I am Japanese ex vegan for 17 years & a vegetarian for 16 years & I know a lot of those & familiar w Chinese works / techniques of make fake meats looking real authentic ! I've been to several Chinese vegan/ vegetarian restaurants in L.A.( where I live )& Tokyo ( originally from there ) ! They are truly amazing ,unfortunately not many places do that anymore as those people who learn & make 'em are not enough ,they are phasing !! I love Chinese & Italian foods the best !! Ironically, Chinese aren't really vegan/ vegetarian friendly in general ! But,to be very honest, the best vegan dishes exist in KYOTO,Japan !! It's called " SHOJIN RYOURI " ( it used to be for buddhist monks ) It's a full course dishes & they come in tiny dishes& small bowls ,etc. They do rounds ,it continues like 8 to 12 ? rounds ,you get real stuffed in the middle !! Lol. Some are prepared/ cooked for days & they are real food ,not like those fake meat stuffs or processed foods !! They use locally grown vegetables & seasonal foods. The best way to eat !! Non organic,though ! Truly the very best vegan foods in the world !!! And many of 'em are affordable even. 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
Chinese has been very good at making fake meats looking real authentic ! Ironically Chinese aren't really vegan / vegetarian friendly .I have been to those restaurants that serve vegan meat dishes made by Chinese people here in L.A.& Tokyo .But,real truly the best vegan dishes is in KYOTO ,called " SHOUJIN RYOURI" ( it used to be for buddhist monks to eat in ancient times )It's a full course meal come in small plates / bowls,they do rounds ,it continues for about an hour ,you get full in the middle . They're usually expensive ,but you can find it at affordable prices ,too ! Truly amazing ,they prepare & cook some dishes for days ! They are not those highly processed fake meats ,either . They present truly artistic things & use locally grown & seasonal vegetables . The best way to eat !! Not organic,though .( some ) A lot vegan chefs & restaurant owners go to Kyoto to study the best vegan foods !! 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
I had no problem getting a vegetarian option anywhere else in china except on the trains. I did find some in some dining cars tho
China did have a train that was similar to a Talgo, it was literally mix between a Talgo kinda (front end) and ICE-1(bodyshell and coaches). The train was called the "China Star" and was China's first record breaking high speed train running at speeds of upto 170mph (270km/h) between Shenyang and Qinhuangdao from 2002-2006 however due to signaling mismatches and electrical problems the train was decommissioned in 2007 and is now at the Beijing railway museum!
Very interesting - I've just looked it up!
where is the animated GIF meme thing on RUclips of a guy holding a mic with a shocked facial expression... you have missed out on the crown jewel of Wuhan station, the MASSIVE "living museum" as you get into the main Departures Hall (not the two halls to the side). No seating, but you don't need anything close... trains are on the move almost all the time and it is absolutely amazing. It is probably the sole station in China (at least the major hubs) that have this huge living museum of trains - and you can see it in action. ACHTUNG: it is VERY easy to miss your train if you are hooked onto this, which most of us are - or WILL be!!...
I'll leave the big muff to you David 😆
Fun fact: CRH380BL achieved the record speed of 487.3km/h during test run on Beijing-Shanghai HSR in 2011 (train modified to 8M4T) and it still holds the record of fastest train in China today 😃 though its operation speed is limited to 310km/h
CRH series are basiclly builed based on German or Jpan tech, yet the CR series are 100% Chinese tech, and outperform the previous CRH types.
Not really 100% 👀
The main problem with the CRH3C/380B is the poor 'wall facing' seats due to the layout. The Velaro's window pitch was originally designed for European configurations, but the Chinese version has all the reversible seats with a much wider pitch from front to back, resulting in a mismatch between the seat-river windows and some seats having virtually no window view and becoming wall-facing.
Wish that was our worst problem with our trains lol
No big issue tbh.
@@NonstopEurotrip Yeah for me either, but for some people who are used to Shinkansen-style perfect window matching, it's a bit of a pain. That's why CR has put some effort into the CR400/300 series and the third-generation CR200J (white livery with reversible seats) for a more even window match.
@@randommusic4567 And it's proof of the Velaro's solid capabilities. Although not as efficient as the CRH380A with Shinkansen origins, it's still one of the most popular platforms from CR's point of view. CR Shanghai, which has the most EMUs of any CR bureaus, has tons of them.
You are an expert on Chinese trains! These videos should be on tourist bandbooks
Haha you're too kind :)
I don't think I'm ever likely to travel on it , but I'd love to see a review of the high Tibetan plateau railway. I think that's the one I've seen that was incredibly difficult to build.
It's on my to-do list 🙌🏻
Hope you could try the CR450 trains which are coming soon!
That's the plan!
Will you take the Indian high-speed rail between Mumbai and Ahmedabad after it is opened in 2028?
Absolutely I will!
Why the big gap in travel times of 3 hrs or 6 hrs? More stops or different route?
Both of these things Sam!
Its a combination of both, the trip that travels in 3.5 hours only stops in Hefei and Nanjing and they are taking the most direct route
Might also be different speed level, the flagship fuxing operates at 350kmh, the older harmony operates at 300kmh.
I know the business class option from Austria's "Railjet", also built by Siemens. It's a 7-car push/pull train operated with a Siemens Taurus (the new 2nd generation is planed to be operated with Siemens Vectron locomotives)
Waiting for the CR Pendolino rolling stock review, honestly i just know they also have Pendolino rolling stock in China😅
I didn't film it because we were in a tunnel most of them trip to great wall 😆
These interiors are more like a Luxury Hotel than anything moving, other than an ocean liner. thing the do China seems to have leapt ahead, especially in infrastructure projects, the scale of everything they do is mind blowing.
It certainly is! 👍🏻
4:44 TGVs and Telgos are power-centralized EMUs - meaning the engines are located on locomotive(s) at one or both ends. Currently, all Chinese high-speed EMUs are power-distributed, which means engines are placed under several carriages. China Railway did not take the technical route of using power-centralized EMUs for high speed operation, mainly because the axle load is too high on the locomotives, which makes maintainance more difficult; also the dedicated locomotive makes it less economical because the locomotive cannot carry passengers (obviously). China do operate power-centralized EMUs though, but currently only on regular-speed railways, with the top speed not exceeding 160kph. You can see one at 18:03 - the train just across the platform is a power-centralized EMU, the CR200J type EMU.
Exactly yes 👍🏻
Great trip. Like ICE3 when they already on Neighbours country, especially France, this Velaro Train can enjoy their operational speed rather than in their own country. Not the fastest but looks like in the past this train became backbone of High Speed Train in China before the replacement into brand new train. Even though Shanghai Hongqiao is far from city centre, but it well integrated because the High Speed Train Station and the Airport is definitely on same land (I don't know there's still international flights from there, since most international flights to Shanghai landed at Pudong).
Did you try the monorail in Wuhan? They have a fun monorail with a glass floor
I did 😁
China Railways are amazing. I've travelled between Tianjin and Beijing on their highspeed trains, travelling at 347kph. We travelled in 2nd class and it was fine. A word to the wise: if you see "zh" in a place name, it's pronounced as though it is "J" - e.g. Hangzho is pronounced Hang-Jo.
I'm aware, that's why I pronounced it like that. Thanks!
@NonstopEurotrip Had I thought you had pronounced it correctly, I wouldn't have said anything.
@@PaulSmith-pl7fo excellent - thanks!
actually on the point of no dynamic pricing, that is actually not entirely true, on certain long distance HSR sleeper trains that pass through guangdong railway's territory they do operate on dynamic pricing and some routes can basically double or triple in prices
how strange! why is this?
can be summed up as average guangdong shenanigans, some routes that passes through guangzhou have even been timetabled to stop service at guangzhou and change train numbers just so guangdong can sell the second departing itinerary at a higher price, but in general trains in guangdong are more expensive than the rest of the country
@@lunareunlar thanks for the info - id never heard of this before!
I think that's not the dynamic pricing he means. The dynamic pricing he means the price changes on different time. It's cheaper if you book early and it gets expensive when it's getting closer to departure date.
that was just additional info i added on because i didnt think i needed to explain how dynamic pricing works to an international audience that know it well..?
I was in China in 1996. And what you show is not comparable to what happened then.
@@bazinga378 none of it was there then!
So many routes to discover in china!
Oh absolutely so so so many 😂
When are you coming back to USA to ride Brightline between Orlando and Miami?
No plans!
@@NonstopEurotrip Your answer should be. You have no USA visa.
@@DanGarreth don't want one either 😂
As much as an improvement Brightline is, I'm not confident that it offers anything that would impress foreigners enough to draw them all the way to the US to do a review (unless they are on the way to somewhere else, e.g. to review the new Mexican Yucatan railroad, but he's done that already). In any case several RUclips reviews of Brightline have already been done comprehensively and not much more can be said about it.
@jameshitselberger5845 there won't be any left soon to review as they keep crashing them
Very interesting & very nice !! 👍👍👍😃💜🥁🐉🎤🎶🎄🚈💕💞
Thank you very much 😊
Reminds me of Whoosh in Indonesia 😅
They have those too 😆
CR450 is on the way
So is CR500
4:48 I think that China Railways just prefers EMU's rather than trainsets with powercars.
They absolutely do!
How do you look up specific train types when travelling on Chinese high speed rail?
I look up the train number on bilibili (Chinese RUclips). It's not perfect but usually accurate
Chinese Railway's official app let you view the train type if you search by train number. However that feature is only available in Chinese version
I wish you can review the only high speed sleeper train next time in China
Already filmed it :)
@ nice
How did they do it in 25 years ?....where did they get all those money ?
Economic growth
Very good train
I will ride from Shanghai to Suzhou in the next days.
Did you have fun? 😀
Food must be delicious there. I love Chinese food. What's your favourite dish there?
Definitely Kung po chicken 💕
I didn’t get it. Is it a Siemens or is it a knockoff Siemens?
@@markusmack The original Siemens model (CRH3C/Velaro CN) was the basis for this improved version (CRH380B), which was licensed from Siemens. The Chinese made their own tweaks to it, obviously with Siemens’s approval. The first two sets were made in Germany (CRH3C-3002 and 3004), but all the other trains were manufactured by CRRC Tangshan/Changchun in China.
That's the question 😂
So they have 75% of the worlds high speed rail lines, I wonder what % of fatalities they have (both in China and on Chinese built high speed lines).
I think there's only been one notable accident, unless we want to go off into conspiracy territory that there's been loads that have been hushed up 😶
@@richard-riku
Less than 10%
4:45 I heard that CR prefers multiple units instead of push-pull trains iirc.
It's ture
They definitely do!
China bought pendolino from Alstoms for its chinese variant CRH5
And many others
China construction Giant 😮
Review the Chinese new sleeping trains.
Filmed already :)
@@NonstopEurotrip looking forward 👀
Klingt der genau so wie der ICE3 aus Deutschland?
Yes it does!
Der klingt wie die BR 407, nur höher.
Did you write CR to request a vegetarian option?
I mentioned it to the staff lol
That was remarkably empty - was it at some really unpopular time of day? Every time I've got one of those trains they have been pretty full, and especially getting a business class seat can be pretty frustrating.
Yes it was a quiet service, deliberately
Yes it was a quiet service, deliberately
Thanks for this. I love riding Chinese HSR
Any time!
Good video!
The German translation unfortunately is not very accurate, gives off AI generated
Thanks - voice or text?
Whoosh..comin from here👍🏽👍🏽😊
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Great video.
Thanks!
Have you done Moscow to voldivosstock Siberian railway.
Quite difficult to do at the moment i would think. I have myself done the Moscow to Beijing route and that was an epic trip
No, I don't visit nazi countries
@NonstopEurotrip you did visit Germany 😉 & China.
@@NonstopEurotrip you do visit communist ones that use slave labor and 🍇 as a form of criminal justice though....interesting hill to stand on. Knowing the history of Russia and their view on Notsees that is an interesting label to use for them.
@@NonstopEurotrip it is good to know. We are not having to see you in Ukraine ever again.
"I'm not a ICE, just a authentic Chinese made train"
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欢迎到中国旅游！
Welcome to China 🇨🇳🎉
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Love your Garuda Indonesia sticker
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"eco friendly travel" --- I don't think so. Google "ecological cost of making one ton of concrete". Love your videos btw which are enhanced by your voice.
It's still more than 50% eco friendlier than flying. And thank you 🙏🏻
Not even a speck of dirt anywhere, unlike Europe, stinky stations, graffiti everywhere, trains always late and a safety risk
You wouldn't dare graffiti in china
@NonstopEurotrip i agree, we have to find the line between freedom of expression and vandalism especially in Western Europe where its not existent
Funny enough China's HSR network has been a financial disaster
It was never meant to make money... It's a public service
I have always found it easier to improve on an idea that somebody else had than come up with an original idea myself. That seems to be the case here and now we can't stop bragging about it.
😆😆😆
Valueable! Even Business Class is very cheap (in my opinion)
Absolutely 💯
Another reminder of why the customer experience of China Trains is easily 10-20 years ahead of the competition.
Easily....!
@@NonstopEurotrip Mind you, have you been on a Chinese K train in the middle of summer? Now that is interesting for sure.
@@roystonvasey5471 next year 👍🏻
Was soll das dem Video einen deutschen Titel zu geben und Ton ist dann in Englisch. Channel blocked!!!
All videos from this coming week will be available in German language audio too
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