Family traumatized after false allegation leads to tactical team storming north Edmonton home
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- An Edmonton family says they are traumatized after the Edmonton Police Service tactical team smashed in their door.
At the same time, police stormed the home’s back door and three screaming teenagers were taken outside, where they were told to lay face down on the ground.
Alberta RCMP said officers believed there could be a victim held a gunpoint - but it turned out to be a false allegation.
“I’m just a kid, why are we being arrested?” one of the teens asked tearfully.
“We’re not going to be shot, right?” she asked and was assured by officers that wouldn’t happen. “Ok I’m just really scared,” she replied.
James Potts said his parents and kids are traumatized. He came home to see police storming his property.
“I was like, ‘What’s going on?’ My parents live here, my kids live here. Two officers approached me at gunpoint, with their lights on and told me to get on the ground or they were going to shoot me,” Potts said.
Global's Sarah Komadina explains how it all happened.
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Cops respond to a hostage situation, proceed to take entire family hostage.
That's what you do when you have to respond to a hostage situation have you have no idea who the hostages or hostage takers are, you neutralize any active threats then proceed to detain everyone and investigate. The crazy thing is though is that they didn't even attempt to gather intel beforehand, they immediately choose the most violent option. Why even bother having a drone if you're not going to use it for reconnaissance.
Government paves the road to Hell with good intentions. I can name several moms and dads of toddlers who could have handled the situation much better, even if there had been a hostage-taker in the house.
Sorry, that was entirely the wrong response from the police. They are the ones that should be in jail.
Swatting should be treated as premeditated attempted murder.
A lot of lawmakers are trying to make the punishment and penalty harder for swatters
They should go after the ones who made the call. Trace it back to the real culprit.
Agreed! And then have them charged with mischief and then sue them.
@@cleanoutthefridgeand the police also need to be disciplined and explain to the public on how this happened. The police also need punishment for how this was handled. The public deserves an explanation and apology.
@@allytrudie864no, that’s how you handle a hostage situation which is exactly what this was called in as. Global is just rage baiting, whoever made the call is to blame.
@@bengale8106no. It isn’t. They infringed on human rights and made a mistake they are not allowed to make without being disciplined. The police are to be blamed just as much as the person who spoofed their sons phone. One day, your 15 year old child will have a gun pointed at them and you will see how this mistake is egregious and needs to be investigated and explained to the public thoroughly.
There is a chance that it was James and Ashley who made the call/allegation based on the most recent video of them showing their true colors at a McDonalds drive thru.
We'll have to put no swatting signs on our doors along with no soliciting now.
That’s completely pointless because when someone swats somebody they do it anonymously for one, and for two they do it from miles away so they aren’t going to see no swatting signs. Plus putting up a no swatting sign is not going to deter them because they aren’t going to care about your sign, so again pointless.
Or 500lbs of Tannerite under the porch.
The way the police handled this...all of the hostages would be dead if the call was true and they should know that.
They don't care about people just getting to play with their toys.
What an embarrassment. It looks like those guys had a lot of fun dressing up and driving their new truck though
Not only that. They’re likely to get a paid vacation out of it.
these police have no sense, if this had been a real kidnapping situation, the kidnapped person could've been killed with the way the police handled this ...
We have a psychopath problem in law enforcement
No kidding
That guy should sue those cop into oblivion
Sue the cops personally not the taxpayers.
@@Dbodell8000both.
the insurance company will probably join hands with the state and launch a lawsuit of their own even if the property owner doesnt
@@Dbodell8000nope, the police service.
What, because they did their jobs?
They responded to a help call, wrong or not, they did their jobs nonetheless.
All it takes is another pissed of teenager calling in a prank call...
Hes almost as disgusted with the police as he is with McDonalds employees
$$$
Tried to pull a debit card scam at McDonald's and threatened to sue. My bet is he called the tip on himself for a chance to sue the city.
@@good2grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr736His passenger was fired as a waitress. After telling the McDonald's employee to "get a career" lmao
this is absolutely disgusting to me in every way shape and form. This comment and the people who liked it are absolutely without empathy for the children and grandmother. My uncle was swatted by the police. They nearly killed his rottweilers. He was hysterical dont shoot my dogs man dont shoot my dogs! He was trying to pull the large male back because they kicked in his door in the middle of the night screaming and the dog would not settle.
man in Kentucky was shot in his lawn because of something like this
police aren’t just supposed to take a call and then go storm into somebody’s house. They’re supposed to verify elements of the call before they consider that there is an emergency situation.
I can’t trust the chief with such freakin glee in his eyes.
Disgusting!!
Cops act first and ask questions later. No matter if innocent people get hurt.
"swatting" pranks automatic 5 years in a federal pound you in the A prison
The report of hostages at gunpoint was prophetic
Sounds like a huge lawsuit too me.
Not in Canada😅😅😅
Now this guy is yelling at McDonald's workers
Yooo, this dude is all over tiktok for harassing a McDonald's employee. While his girlfriend is basically doing casual racism in the back. He threatened to sue the employee. Is this something they do?
Found out the girlfriend was fired from her waitress job
@@erinmefford8041no way🤯 she should sue McDonalds if that’s true. All she did was ask them to park to the side in order to maintain fast service. they walk the food out to them when it’s finished.
What dude
They need to start charging people making false reports
It's absolutely ridiculous. People today can not lose a freaking game without calling the police and making a faults police report.
Swatting is getting out of control
It is awful how a villain can make a false police report, destroy people's lives and not worry about prosecution. The police never prosecute the liars, they actually protect them. If the victim tried to find out who made the phone call the police wouldn't tell him. If a bunch of 17 year old bullies tormented your 14 year old daughter to the point of suicide, the police would hide the identity of the bullies, to protect them.
Now that we’ve seen James Potts’ antics at the McDonald’s drive thru, gotta wonder if he fabricated the entire thing in order to try and sue EPS. What a loser
The guy lives with his parents. He doesn’t have hobbies.
Doesn't justify what they did over an anonymous call. INVESTIGATE is supposed to come before detain with zip ties 🙄
@@michaelmatthew6019ya they should have knocked and asked nicely to talk to the shooter while they had a gun to someone’s head! Grow up
@@willli8163 armed home invaders are what the 2nd amendment is for 👍👍
@@michaelmatthew6019 yeah, too bad Canada doesn't have it...
The man at the end of this News report is very upset with this extremely bad police work, for someone I've never seen before. I still can't blame him. These incompetent cops could have killed an innocent bystander with that machine if they weren't stopped on time.
So held at gunpoint eh? Trying to get the victim shot? That’s how you do it alright.
Charge!! We’ll figure it out as we go…
No mention of charges for the fake call..
False accusations should tact on 50 yr prison sentence and mandatory $50,000 fine to pay for damages
Someone swatted them a false reported it to the police. 😡
Makes you wonder if James is responsible for this?
It's all about creating a spectacle
Sounds like a prank call put on by someone else, either as a dare or to get back at James. Busting into the house like they did they could have ended up shooting the grandmother and the 15 year old, not sure why they would shot the father since he was driving up and not in the house. I do hope they find the one who made this false call.
The classic: blame the victim!
This was way over use of abuse by the police!
No matter what they thought, they had plenty opportunity to handle this differently!
Couldn't have happened to a nicer person...
Exactly also his witch of a girlfriend Ashley was fired after that video went viral from her waitress job
That is absolutely disgusting!
The cops screwed up BADLY!
Idk if they thought someone was in immediate danger that is what I would want them to do. Could you imagine being at knife point and if the police had to talk nicely to the people holding you before entering.
come on, this is Canada not the United States
it was the RCMP. 'nuff said.
The VPD are JUST as inept.
@@allytrudie864 what is 'vpd'?
it wasn't the RCMP, it was EPS.
@@ryuuguu01 mrs enns, it clearly states in the video that it was Fort Saskatchewan RCMP.
@@daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 Read the description below the title "An Edmonton family says they are traumatized after the Edmonton Police Service tactical team smashed in their door." Or read the article on the website.
This the rude mcdonalds guy
He made the call himself so he could feel disgusted
He should get a career
Great now they will get repayment from taxpayers money not the cops pockets
Well, if someone is actually doing his/her job, those cops are going to be fired if they are responsible of this. Some other people at a higher level is also going to be accountable.
@@rhysioeren3203it’s so cute you actually think the police will admit any wrong doing and that this will actually be looked into deeply. The news won’t even be able to do a follow up story on how this all played out pointing out the mistakes the police made and how they can confirm it won’t happen again. This will just be swept under the rug.
The cops pockets ARE the tax payers. We the tax payers pay their wages and all their toys. We own them.
Obviously they need more training. This is ridiculous!
You can’t fix stupid though 🤷🏼♀️ these street constables have a high school education because no secondary education institution admitted them. They just so happen to be an all star hockey player so they have the brawn and brains perfect for the RCMP/VPD. But you can’t make them smart.
“Just following orders…”
This is a policy mistake. The police need to revise the playbook.
They are acting exactly how they were trained. They threatened the man’s life when there wasn’t even a threat. That’s just completely unacceptable.
Hard to get good training when cops are defunded.
I think it is important that there are consequences for the son who sent the text. Also smashing down the door when they had no idea what the situation was in the house seems to be wrong thing to do. They had a report of a gun to a victim's head yet they clearly had no idea if smashing down the door was likely to get the alleged victim killed.
I think it's important that you learn to listen & comprehend. The report clearly indicated that the report the police received was false, the alleged text did not come from the son! Try getting your facts straight before you beak off.
Tell us you didn’t watch the video and understand it without telling us you didn’t watch the video and understand it, by making a stupid comment.
@@timtaylor750and you need to learn how to comprehend verbal English gooder. Watch the video again S L O W L Y and get back to us with your revised comment.
@@d.r.tweedstweeddale9038 It does not say the text did not come from the son of the people who called the police. it says the allegations were false. "
I think it's important that you learn to listen & comprehend."
Ugh. It's an overseas scam. It's been going around the US for years. I'm surprised the police reacted to it because EVERYBODY has been getting these calls/texts. The criminals comb Facebook etc for personal info, then hack people's phones and the rest is history.
First it was calls to grandma and grandpa supposedly from their grandchild saying they need money sent to some bank account... blah blah blah. A lot of grandparents are getting hard of hearing and many don't hear their grandchildren on the phone much so they become nervous and fall for it.
Now it's texts sent directly to parents because parents tend to know their own child's voice. Seriously, people shouldn't discuss their personal lives on social media or if they do, fix the security settings so people can't see who you are "friends" with or who you're related to.
Maybe they shouldn't be so eager to put people at gunpoint in the first place
Somebody should be sued
If this guy, James Potts, made a false claim that he was being held for $1500 ransom, then a call came through that there were kidnapped family members being g held - what were police supposed to do? To say that police should have ascertained whether the kidnapping was valid before entering, wastes valuable time if it's true.
Think about it as if it was your family. Would you want police to wait to rescue your kids? I doubt it. This James Potts made a FALSE CLAIM that he was being held for $1500 ransom! He's got bigger issues. How do you lie to your family about being held for ransom? 😡👎
Because him and his girlfriend are scammers James and his girlfriend went to a McDonald’s was politely asked by the worker to park the car to revive the food look up James potts McDonalds drive thru
They both argued with her the video is on you tube
The RCMP didn't say that James made that false claim.
@@alfiewillis4893Edmonton has its own police force. Not RCMP.
Because a kidnapper immediately thinks of $1500 ransom instead of $1500000? Police should have known that this call was fake.
Sue the heck out of these aggressors.
This takes prank calls about ordering a pizza to new levels.
Compensation for these mistakes should be mandatory. That's why you have recon, to make sure you're not wasting resources on a false call.
Are you serious, like get your facts straight police before your raid don’t ask questions first just bombard peoples livesI smell a lawsuit, sue the kids parents who sent that text in the first place too
Adding insult to injury, all the damage caused by the breaking and entering will not be fixed by the city.
They don't treat home invaders this way
Having never experienced anything such as this I can only imagine what this family felt in the moment and afterwards. I just can't figure out what I would want them to do differently if it was a real situation at my house.
Unless you have a vehicle that has been used in 10 years! And you desperately want to wreck something!
The police should be held responsible for their serious lack of good policing. Our cops in Canada are some of the worst in the world now.
Police earning disdain each day
This is called swatting. It is a criminal act abusing the SWAT team against someone as a sick joke or retaliation. The police need to go after the person who called it.
Does Canadian law allow for lawsuits as much as the states do? This would = lots of $$$ for the people involved if it was in the US.
We are not a litigious country or people. You’d have to be a billionaire to afford a lawyer to get anything brought before a court to sue an arm of the government.
Yes they're is
@@colinchornenki6262they will get the cost of their door repair. They won’t get any real therapy paid for. Just the rinky dink victim services phone “therapy” with some kid that took a course in human behaviour in college. Do you think victim services will speak to you daily or even weekly through your trauma? Nope! You will get to talk to them once a quarter- because they care.
The problem is, here in Canada, even if you win your lawsuit against the Government, it has taken so long, some up to 10 years, that nobody wants to take your case except Huge law firms and by the time it's all said and done, the big law firm has put in so many billable hours that you get about 20 per cent of your settlement.
I am Canadian so I have researched this hard, more so for my own Province of Nova Scotia. The only time that the money is settled quickly is if there has been permanent physical damage to the victim, can't walk, blind, broken arms, can't work AND the news channels do the leg work, putting it on TV every time there's an update in the case and that is about the only way you sort of win.
Once the Government sees that you are suing, they just keep postponing the court dates on court day, so you lawyer shows up has taken hours to prepare and then it's postponed, and YOU have to pay the lawyer fees.
If you take the cops to court and you lose, YOU have to pay the court cost of the Government lawyers and that can be countless thousands because the pad the books to get more money out of you now that you lost.
Our Government in power only pays terrorists.
We need to address this two-fold:
The police need to properly vet these calls somehow instead of just doing this crap
And:
People that call in swatting calls need to be charged with attempted murder for every person that was in the house whenever the police arrive.
Has the Edmonton PD lost it's collective mind? Who taught these chipmunks? The PLO?
Nothing told these STASI that something was wrong....like grandma just walking around?
Communication? Investigate? Officers aren't familiar with those words.
What on earth is that vehicle?
Seriously, someone has been watching too many James Bond movies.
Since they obviously had no idea who was in the house and where, I really struggle to see how this breach would help the supposed victim with gun to his head.
If your afraid of you're own shadow, afraid of teenagers living in the Canadian suburbs,.or have ptsd. Dont become a member of swat or any form of law enforcement.
Paycheck.
sue the city
No, the police dod not HAVE to go into a house like this, despite their assertion. Other ways to handle the (falsely reported) reported crime.
I do not want the police to have this right.
Good job Canada. Show the world how far you've sunk.
Local police should never have access to this type of military equipment.
Swatting is a terrible crime
Yes, I'm also disgusted with the police
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Lawsuit...!
thank god you got it on camera wow
These officers are Guilty of armed home invasion and not actually investigating the claims before acting on a false claim. Qualified Immunity needs to be Revoked for All Law Enforcement
So the police are gonna get massively sued, right
Wow... I thought this was in the US at first. US craziness spreading...
I had the same thing happen to me in 2017, swat closed my street down and came into the house i was in with swat, 7 armed guys pulled me out pointing their laser beams on my body from their assault rifles.. all of this because i slammed a door out of anger, the person who called the cops told them i had just fired off a gun in the house 🤦🏻♂️ .. north edmonton is full of messed up people, rats and snitches everywhere in that city. Glad i moved.
Get a good lawyer and sue!!
ខ្ញុំគាំទ្រ១០០០%។
I don’t mean to judge a book by its cover but a family that size and apparent demographic- they couldn’t afford the lawyer that could actually get them justice. This is Canada so any justice they could have gotten through a good lawyer would have just been given to the lawyer when the family paid his bill.
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RCMP: Sorry
Father: That’s ok, eh
HUGE Lawsuit…..
The problem is that some of the police agencies go to force now as the first option instead of investing and negotiating.
This is not good for anyone.
What a disgrace to the public from the government
This is how the city shows you how much they love
Investigation first, not assault and battery then investigate. Not the sharpest tools around
They just wanted an excuse to play with their "big boy" toys. Find out what is going on first? Oh no, let's just assume there are terrorists in the house instead.
This is why we need gun rights restored fully. And why the RCMP needs to be removed from policing.
Sue them for false arrest. That should be enough to change their ways.
What a pathetic excuse for a police force. Nothing like escilating a situation. Sue them 100%
Send in officers and talk to people as a first means of communication, that’s not how a police state works people!
Huh? This is EXACTLY how a Police State works…
Meanwhile there are multiple chop shops on the west end that are shipping stolen vehicles and probably moving drugs and they don't get treatment like this.
Utter insanity.
This is your tax money at work. Keeping everyone safe.
I saw the west Vancouver police giving a homeless women the third degree for jaywalking against the light in between the park royal buildings. I was jaywalking right beside her but they didn’t even look at me. While I waited for the bus I could see they had her sitting talking to her for over 15 mins while I waited for the bus. She was clearly just being abused because for the way she looked. She didn’t even do anything wrong. If we want to jaywalk and hurt ourselves then that’s when we will learn the lesson. Weird how none of us ever learn this lesson? 😂
EPS has to justify their toys/powers/funding. Dealing with known criminals would put the police at risk. Better they just give those real criminals a heads up on how EPS works and response insanely to an unconfirmed crime.
* respond
sad they should ask for compensation
This is why you don't call these idiots. They never get the real criminals but boy are they tough guys if they know you are a mere honest citizen. They knew this was a swatting call, so they got some practice.
Shame on these cops!! What is their problem? Barging into peoples homes just so they can hold the familys children at gunpoint, what the hell?!🤬 This is unacceptable!
Back the blue until it happens to you!
Police departmen or the state should pay damages to victims
I’m really confused about this. They respond to a hostage situation by taking the family hostage at gunpoint. That’s what the call was about in the first place.
Yeah, it's always SHOOT FIRST and ASK QUESTIONS LATER. That's REALLY PATHETIC!!
Imagine being held accountable for your actions. Law immune tyrants. There should be no consequence for resisting these government goons.
It sucks but that's how I would want the police to handle these kinds of threats.
cops are out of control and need to be held accountable. Sadly this is not a one off thing it is happening a lot.
The police immediately apologized and paid to repair their home... right?
Contact your lawyer and demand damages. File a lawsuit for each kid and person individually. Make these morons pay.
Odds are they did that to themselves to try to sue the police
Based on what this guy is like, and it not being his first rodeo to fabricate a problem and threaten to "sue".
He was most likely the one who swatted himself to sue the police department. He tried to threaten to sue McDonald's after trying to pull a scam on them by asking for a refund in cash instead of back on the card they used to pay with. Which was against the store's policy.
This is due because if they get a cash refund, they can call up their bank for another refund and the bank would never know that they had already received a refund.
I am assuming he thought it was going to be a win all around. Cause if he couldn't pull off the scam, then he would try the legal system and try to find some kind of loophole to extort money.
They were trying to scare the cashier into going along with their scam and absolutely did not get the results they wanted. Then it became viral, and the lady who was with him harassing the McDonald's worker got brutally fired from her waitressing job.
You'd think someone who also works in the food industry knows how it works regarding refunds and what these workers go through. But nah. She became the person she probably complains about often while she was still a waitress lol.
So I don't doubt one bit, this is what he wanted to happen so he can do just that and get a good payout.
Sounds like a Swatting incident. When someone intentionally makes a fake call to 911 saying that there's a deranged killer in their house. It's a serious problem in the United States. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the intended victims was one of the teenagers. I really hope the person who made the call faces justice.
Nobody ever faces any justice in this country anymore!
I’m not part of the ACAB crowd, but I get where they’re coming from! We need reforms to ensure accountability!