$300 DIY Grid Tie Solar Panel Setup Update

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • It has been a year since I fist made a video on my grid tie DIY solar system that costs only $300. Since then, I've used the system and monitored the amount of energy it products. I am now upgrading it slightly by using the remaining capacity in the grid-tie inverter going from 200W to 400W of panels.
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Комментарии • 258

  • @rodhoutx
    @rodhoutx 4 года назад +9

    I noticed when I started looking into solar panel technology I started to realize every watt of use matters! A 60 watt incandescent bulb would consume a high percentage of power (and generate heat that has to be dealt with). LED bulbs would allow me to use 4 to 6 LED bulbs throughout the house versus just 1 incandescent bulb, and the cost of LED bulbs has continued to drop to very reasonable levels. Then one starts to consider devices with inverter technology (air conditions, refrigerators) that avoid surges during startup and sip power instead of guzzle it. Cool stuff!

    • @AskIveSolar
      @AskIveSolar 3 года назад +2

      That's why I hear people say to go with energy efficient stuff first before you get into solar.

    • @crpth1
      @crpth1 2 года назад +1

      Yep! That makes sense. After all net gain (profit) is a result of what one gain vs what one spend. Reduce your spending and you're already on the right direction! :-)

  • @dapperblue6165
    @dapperblue6165 4 года назад +28

    Who else thinks that BTB's videos are so relaxing i have no idea why, I love watching his videos it feels like hes a longtime friend 😂

    • @cplcwgoh
      @cplcwgoh 4 года назад

      perhaps its because he has a relaxed mindset, and it spreads to his viewers :D

    • @heinuchung8680
      @heinuchung8680 3 года назад

      Because he doesn’t shout, or use crazy graphics or have lots of cuts. He also speaks sort of slowly. Think of guy Ross painting show. He has a simple background and wears simple dark or creme colored clothes

    • @MaximGhost
      @MaximGhost 3 года назад

      @@heinuchung8680 The ironic thing about Bob Ross, the uber-relaxed painter, was that he retired from the U.S. Air Force after 20 years of stressful service. It was during his time in the military that Bob got into painting to relieve stress.

    • @ajarivas72
      @ajarivas72 3 года назад +1

      @@cplcwgoh :
      One of the best videos (if not the best video) on solar panels I have ever seen

  • @robertlane6675
    @robertlane6675 3 года назад +3

    I have pretty much the same setup and I added relays, a charge controller and battery. I have a 12 volt wallwart keeping the relay n/o terminals closed. If the power goes out the relays direct the current to the charge controller. This way if the power is out it automatically starts to charge a battery and disconnects the grid tie inverter. It adds a few bucks but allows you to use solar during grid down events. I enjoy your videos man.

  • @grugnotice7746
    @grugnotice7746 4 года назад +6

    I had no idea this was so easy to set up. I've been on the fence about putting in a solar system for ages. Think I will pull the trigger this year.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +1

      Well... a temporary system for testing only though. You'd have to mount it properly so the wind doesn't blow them away.

  • @slofkosky7641
    @slofkosky7641 9 месяцев назад

    Very well spoken and I really enjoy how you broke it down for us viewers. I'm just a few months into my own journey with solar and learning quite a bit too that seems to mirror your own path. My fear currently is feeding back to the grid if I create more energy than I am using from the grid and back-feeding to the utility company. Just ordered an inexpensive grid-tie inverter with limiter during Cyber Monday to try and keep that from happening. It's a 1K watt system with sensors for $232 after tax and free shipping. Anyways thank you for the video!

  • @johnwyman6331
    @johnwyman6331 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for making this video. I think your math is a little misleading though due to the smoke in the atmosphere right now. Once that gets cleared you should get much better output and ROI.
    Not long ago the utilities put smart meters on all our homes. If you have a smart meter on your home and you backfeed the grid through the smart meter they will actually charge you for every Watt hour you put out onto the grid! This is why that same inverter company has come out with a gridtie inverter with limiter or GTIL. It has a sensor that allows it to only produce the amount that you are using in your own home and not backfeed that smart meter.
    You can charge batteries with your setup. You can connect the positive and negative charge controller input wires in parallel between your panels and your grid-tie inverter.

  • @tchamp72
    @tchamp72 4 года назад +4

    I love this. Everything else I've seen is much more complicated. In my area, electricity is only 8 cents ($0.08) per KWh, so it just doesn't make any sense for me to do any kind of solar. Did the math on this, and it would be 12 year ROI minimum, which might be more than the life of the equipment. Maybe I can do it for wind instead. There's plenty of that here.

    • @AskIveSolar
      @AskIveSolar 3 года назад

      That's kinda my scenario as well but I already have panels so I still want to try this.
      I just have 2 100 watt panels. I just wanna cover cell phones, wfh and tv watching./internet.

    • @ajarivas72
      @ajarivas72 3 года назад +1

      @@AskIveSolar :
      When there is a power blackout, can you connect the tie inverter when the off-grid battery inverter is working?

    • @AskIveSolar
      @AskIveSolar 3 года назад

      @@ajarivas72 I don't quite understand.
      But I know that these things don't serve power when it doesn't sense the grid.

    • @La_sagne
      @La_sagne 2 года назад

      i live in northern germany and electricity costs about $0.36 per kWh but since we have less powerful sun its still not really worth it 😄

  • @Dave64track
    @Dave64track 4 года назад +1

    Great setup win win situation no moving parts energy for free doesn't matter how small the setup it all adds up in the end.

  • @nichethought6106
    @nichethought6106 2 года назад

    i am trying this to learn more about solar. I got 1000 watt 24Volt grid tie inverter. We have not worked to conserve power yet. i know we will burn all the power and not be sending any to the grid. Also know that at .06 per Kwhr it will never payback to call it an investment. About the same ost at abbout $300. I am just funding my solar education for later in life. I will be able to help my wife and i learn before we retire and move south where solar should be able to get a return.

  • @VGSoundFX
    @VGSoundFX 4 года назад +5

    This is really cool. Definitely appreciate the schematics layout

  • @somanyfnbananas2774
    @somanyfnbananas2774 4 года назад +1

    If the grid tie inverter ever fails it is normally a relatively easy repair if you are familiar with soldering and a little troubleshooting

  • @Stephenphillips29UK
    @Stephenphillips29UK 2 года назад

    Pay back in the UK would be around 6 months here as our electric rates are expensive!

  • @Dr_Jonathan_Mahadeo
    @Dr_Jonathan_Mahadeo 3 года назад +1

    *Holy Optical Illusions Batman*
    @1:55, if you look at the white diamonds on the pannels, those in your periphery will be black centered.

  • @Good-Enuff-Garage
    @Good-Enuff-Garage 2 года назад

    luv your brutal honesty ! one thing I would share with you is that your 400 watts of solar panels will generate closer to 50% of power so 200 watts so no where near the 500 watt "limit" of that little inverter, so you can safely add two more panels for a total of 600 watts, hewk you can double them to 800 watts and still be fine

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  2 года назад +1

      With them roughly flat, I get about 62 watts from a 100 Watt panel on a sunny day. There’s also needing to size for corner cases as well as leaving some headroom to maximize reliability. The inverter is pretty cheap so I wouldn’t want to push them to 95% limit. Current I have 4 100W panels and I think that’s the most I’ll do.

    • @Good-Enuff-Garage
      @Good-Enuff-Garage 2 года назад +1

      @@BeatTheBush cool try using an Emporia smart plug in front of your Killawatt meter and you will get nice wifi software and a graph output over time of how much power they pull, I am doing just that

  • @cedr381
    @cedr381 4 года назад +2

    I think the $ per watt is somewhat high for this system. You have to get cheap used panels or free panels. Solar system installation used to cost up to $4 per watt, Tesla solar’s dollar per watt right now is only $1.49 per watt! Btw thanks for your video it started my obsession to solar energy. Im in-the process of changing my pool pump which runs me $79 a month to run to a solar brushless motor setup.

  • @billycomedy
    @billycomedy 2 года назад +1

    Love your comprehensive analysis and clarity! Also, you're pretty good on camera ;)

  • @chrisniner8772
    @chrisniner8772 4 года назад

    24 years full time offgrid and I can't even say how many offgrid and grid tie systems I have put together... No sponsors. No freebies. This guy gets free stuff to play with. Ha.

  • @wayne19922006
    @wayne19922006 3 года назад

    Hello great 1-year old video. I'm building the same setup (for educational purposes only of course). A point I would like to make is that the size of the inverter is what limits the output watts not the number of panels. The number of panels can exceed the max rating of the inverter if you want to make sure the inverter is running at the max. Another example of what I am talking about is that you can connect a 12 volt 100 amp battery (1200 watts) to your 500 watt inverter and you will only get 500 watts out.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  3 года назад

      Interesting. I guess I would never buy more panels than the inverter since it'll be a bit of a waste. Also, I think it's best to leave lots of headroom for these cheap inverters.

    • @wayne19922006
      @wayne19922006 3 года назад

      @@BeatTheBush Hi, if you are not getting the wattage you were shooting for maybe because of the season, angle of the sun or some other reason it is acceptable to add panels to make up for inefficiency. I hope you have a great day. I am anxious to watch more of your videos.

  • @macrumpton
    @macrumpton 2 года назад

    If you did this with used panels you would have a faster roi. I have seen 260w refurbished panels for $100 on Offerup, and even if their output is only 200w (worst case) you are doing far better than with new 100w panels.

  • @Doorknobs11
    @Doorknobs11 4 года назад +5

    The panels are doing that black dot illusion, I cant look at them for 10 second lol

    • @RyanMPLS
      @RyanMPLS 3 года назад +1

      Did not notice until I read this. Ugh!

  • @bendy1808
    @bendy1808 3 года назад

    done 10 /300w off grid 2/300w tie grid securely mounted safety wire attached both ends for high winds DIY no injuries

  • @SolarLantern424
    @SolarLantern424 Год назад +1

    Can we get an update on this? :) How did it affect your actual bills in reality and are you closer to ROI considering the higher cost of electricity now and everything?

  • @Ulbre
    @Ulbre 7 месяцев назад

    Hey man, thx for the tutorial.
    I am looking at a similar low cost entry into solar with maybe expanding down the track after gaining first hand knowledge, I think same as your outlook :)
    I'm an expat over in Thailand so all the components are a bit cheaper and the hours of sunlight are quite a bit more..........but it's hot, so equipment fails quicker.......so I'm looking at maybe using only half or less of the available wattage plus maybe adding some (solar powered) cooling fans.
    It's exciting to even think about doing it so will be even more so actually starting :)
    I thank people like you for helping me get going :)

  • @mattrowe1229
    @mattrowe1229 3 года назад

    as he stated, as long as the utility co does not see your meter go backwards, your fine, but when they installed the new meters that dont need somone to read them, they spot your meter goes backward even if only for one pulse, they will call you or knock on your door, ive been installing sysytems for the last 6 years, great video though, i bought a kilowatt meter and am planning to do this

  • @kasandrabrown8611
    @kasandrabrown8611 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the presentation. I think your safety and health are more important however. Take care.

  • @Mike-01234
    @Mike-01234 Год назад

    Most utilities now the smart meters will alert the utility that you are using a grid tie inverter they will send you a letter telling you to remove it. Monopolies don't like competition. I wonder if that has happened to you since this video is 2 years old maybe since you're not making much they won't notice. I think there are inverters that have a way to shut off the back feeding they use current clamp goes around each wire feeding from the meter to your panel each 120V leg and it only turns on the inverter when it detects power flowing in from the grid when you turn something on.

  • @user-bn3zo3mh5v
    @user-bn3zo3mh5v 2 года назад

    Boy would my 300W system love to have another 700W to go to my grid tie inverter. Just sucks I get only morning sun then in the depth of summer I have to.

  • @toddfarkman2177
    @toddfarkman2177 3 года назад +1

    I didn't see a breaker connected to your inverter. Do you use one or just suggest it? The only breaker setup I've seen is where someone cut off the plug on the inverter and wired it through a breaker switch and then had a plug on the other side.

  • @dave597
    @dave597 4 года назад +2

    6 year ROI? Would you have bought/invested in these if you weren't sent them for free by the sponsor? Are any of these projects worth it if you didn't get the products sent for free? It does not seem worth it for anybody to try this at all unless you got the product for free.

    • @paulstone7655
      @paulstone7655 4 года назад

      The smaller panels aren't worth it. Better to buy larger (300-500 watt panels), and in bulk. A reasonably priced system like this can pay for itself in around 3-4 years.

    • @correctionguy7632
      @correctionguy7632 4 года назад

      A 6 year ROI is a 16.5% annual return. That is pretty good though not considering how much time he spent researching this stuff.

  • @mattrowe1229
    @mattrowe1229 3 года назад

    I am going to try this with 2x100watt panels and a grid tie inverter, maybe one like yours, or the micro inverter that hooks under a panel with 2 connectors. i am not going to notify the utility because i am going to run it on the circuit that my swamp cooler is on, so i will turn my swamp cooler on, then plug in this system to the same outlet, my swamp cooler pulls 220watts on low, so this should put out less than my swamp cooler and just help lower the usage with no back feeding at all. so the utility should see no reverse voltage or my meter go backwards

  • @philipmillwood526
    @philipmillwood526 3 года назад +1

    I get that you're just experimenting, but you could have picked up a single 320 watt panel for around $200, and a microinverter for about the same price that would upload the data you're manually tracking with the kill-a-watt.

    • @ssoffshore5111
      @ssoffshore5111 3 года назад

      Phil, I thought about doing just this last night (although possibly 2 x 400w panels with mircoinverters) and feed into a 240v outlet. The goal would be to assist powering our 12,000 btu mini split, fridge, TV, etc. Seems like possible the best bang for the buck/effort. I actually found this video seeing if this might work.
      The biggest problem I see now is where to get the panels as shipping is costly. I checked CL and ebay, nothing decent nearby and I only see full system "installers" in my state... I doubt they will be willing to sell me panels at a fair price, lol!

    • @jimbujold5586
      @jimbujold5586 5 месяцев назад

      Same here, I’d like to take the edge off the kWh consumption …but definitely not feed back into the grid. Yesterday for example, the kWh hourly avg was between 2 & 3 kWh, with a 10 PM peak of 6.66 kWh? temperature was just above freezing, we live in Eastern Canada🥶

  • @simpletongeek
    @simpletongeek 4 года назад

    I think some kind of battery charging system is necessary to balance the output. Even if it's something as simple as mega capacitor.
    I can use it to charge Jackery portable battery, and later attach my portable rice cooker for dinner. Of course, charging laptop for late night computing is an option, too. In fact, 0.5 kwH average during the day should be enough for my daily consumption. Substitute cooler for fridge, and that's about it.

  • @CollosalTrollge
    @CollosalTrollge 3 года назад +2

    HI, will you be able to explain more over the entry of the grid tie inverter, and the Circuit Breaker, im not sure if these are hand in hand .
    I really thought u could feed in anywhere in your house /home, any plug socket?
    Not following the Circuit Breaker.
    Very interesting

    • @jimbujold5586
      @jimbujold5586 5 месяцев назад

      Same here, why is this circuit breaker required?

  • @qwazy01
    @qwazy01 4 года назад

    Hope the speaker wires hold up.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад

      If not, I will replace them with the same wires. I have a huge spool of it.

  • @dillkilltv3942
    @dillkilltv3942 3 года назад +1

    Im going to do this. But i didnt know you need a fuse breaker. Can you explain that more. And about the contracts

  • @JohnSmith-oj6or
    @JohnSmith-oj6or 3 года назад +2

    Can you talk more about what you've learned since the initial setup? For example, you added a safety mechanism between the inverter and the grid. Also, do you need to apply for a permit for this setup?

  • @BushImports
    @BushImports 4 года назад

    I've been thinking about it but probably not a grid tie setup. The holdup for me on doing solar is being able to build batteries with as high or higher energy density as/than lithium. Lithium batteries are way too high for me to want to spend the money even in the case of a power outage , usually the outages here don't last long enough to make it worthwhile to do that.

  • @kitsurubami
    @kitsurubami 2 года назад

    please put a link to the previous video in your description.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/UWIccIrZMWI/видео.html

  • @rootcanal7188
    @rootcanal7188 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video. Without meaning any rudeness, please consider this feedback: if you don't have batteries to store the electricity generated by the solar panels, you will obviously be in the dark if the grid goes down. From what I have been reading lately, there is at least a fair chance of that happening. As for your 500 watt inverter, that isn't much.
    I just got a Ecoflow Delta portable power station. It is basically a 1100 watt-hour lithium battery, plus a 1700 watt inverter, and the protection circuitry, in one box. I have four solar panels to charge it up if the grid is down. I can power the refrigertaor and a chest freezer (and maybe a few more things), and charge it through solar panels while the inverter is running appliances, Again, no offense, just some honest feedback.

    • @BrainstormerQ
      @BrainstormerQ 3 года назад +2

      Of course one can install batteries, and while you're at it, might as well fill the whole roof with solar panels. the whole point is to do it as cost effective as possible with fast ROI. having batteries would defeat the whole purpose of what he's trying to achieve. I'm sure he doesn't mind being in the dark for a short time vs having to pay all that equipment off in 20 years.

  • @rockyzman
    @rockyzman 4 года назад +2

    Interesting Thank you for the video It gave me some food for thought.

  • @ssoffshore5111
    @ssoffshore5111 3 года назад +1

    I thought about doing just this last night (although possibly 2 x 400w panels with microinverters) and feed into a 240v outlet. The goal would be to assist powering our 12,000 btu mini split, fridge, TV, etc. Seems like possibly the best bang for the buck/effort and it would be a real residential system (last 25+ years, more powerful, more efficient, and far safer. I actually found this video seeing if this might work, seems like it should.
    The biggest problem I see now is where to get the panels as shipping is costly. I checked CL and ebay, nothing decent nearby and I only see full system "installers" in my state... I doubt they will be willing to sell me panels at a fair price, lol!
    One word of caution to those looking to do one of these (experimental/under the radar) systems, if you have a digital meter on house, you will get charged for power you're using AND MAKING if you don't have a way of blocking the generated power from the meter!

  • @paulstone7655
    @paulstone7655 4 года назад +4

    I wonder what the pros/cons are of adding another inverter (2 pair) as apposed to one larger one? I'm thinking it would be cheaper to run 2, and also if one breaks it's only half the system down instead of having to replace one large one?

    • @ajarivas72
      @ajarivas72 3 года назад

      Is BTB using a charge controller?

    • @mrc7478
      @mrc7478 2 года назад +1

      This is what I plan to do, Paul. Also some inverters can be chained together.

  • @willieking4306
    @willieking4306 Год назад

    waiting for the another update

  • @WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
    @WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 2 года назад

    THANKS
    COOP
    ...

  • @robert2780
    @robert2780 4 года назад +1

    with 400 watts of panel, you should generate at least 250 watts. I live in the bay area as well. retired chinese engineer.
    i like to email u and share some ideas of solar and option trading. with option trading, i generate an extra pay check each month.

  • @Sciontc22jj
    @Sciontc22jj Год назад

    Need help with the grid tie inverter. I bought a used 205-watt panel, which had two male ends I tried replacing . But with out real ever doing anything with wires before house fans or changing lights. Put ends on m4 cord to fit inverter being Challenging

  • @dirtsailoroff-road5580
    @dirtsailoroff-road5580 4 года назад +1

    so can I really just plug the grid tie inverter into a regular outlet in my house???? is that what I'm understanding?

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад

      You have to have the contacts in place with your utility to do so.

    • @dirtsailoroff-road5580
      @dirtsailoroff-road5580 4 года назад

      @@BeatTheBush yes, I know I have to contact them first, but the actual physical part, is it really just that easy?

  • @jimritter2120
    @jimritter2120 2 года назад

    loved your presentation. Just a note, you buy and sell kWh.

  • @rupe53
    @rupe53 2 года назад

    I know you only have 100 watt panels, but it might be worth a check to see what your voltage drop is between the panel and the house. IOW, heavier wire might give you a boost because that end is DC.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  2 года назад

      I remember doing this check. I spec'ed out the gauge of the wire for the maximum current it will pass.

    • @rupe53
      @rupe53 2 года назад

      @@BeatTheBush ... there's a hole in your figuring. After 10 - 20 feet you can get quite a voltage drop, especially with #18 wire (speaker wire?) at LOW voltage. Just a few volts can be a 25% loss!

  • @TheSameNameasYou
    @TheSameNameasYou 4 года назад +4

    I think you have a typo in the title, should it be Grid not Gird?

    • @adamlam2990
      @adamlam2990 4 года назад

      hes gettin sloppy

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 4 года назад +2

      @@adamlam2990 Living amongst hell on earth can do that to you.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +2

      @@DarkLinkAD Ahhh sorry about that, corrected.

  • @DarronRansbarger
    @DarronRansbarger 3 года назад +1

    Question: does the inverter produce heat when working? If so, I wonder if that may increase your AC load requirement and negate the small energy benefit of the system. Can the inverter be placed outdoors?

  • @deathskull77
    @deathskull77 4 года назад

    you really should upgrade the wire gauge connecting to the inverter for safety reasons. Dont want to burn down your house because of the wires getting hot.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +1

      Hmmm. I did some calculations for power carrying cables vs wire gauge. Seems like I’m about 10% under in current capacity. I guess I’ll just double up before summer comes.

  • @robbyschulman8077
    @robbyschulman8077 4 года назад +2

    Could a system like this be used to just charge an EV car instead of going to grid. Would that make the car energy free?

    • @sallerc
      @sallerc 4 года назад +4

      Yep, with 400W (peak) it would take a looong time to charge it though (you wont get many miles/day).

    • @johnwyman6331
      @johnwyman6331 3 года назад +2

      Might be about right size for a solar charged electric bicycle though.

  • @social3ngin33rin
    @social3ngin33rin 4 года назад +1

    Awesome!!! :D
    Thank you very much for the update, smart brother ^_^

  • @dextbgen
    @dextbgen 4 года назад +2

    Less than 20W instantaneous power generated from 400W capacity panels? How much instantaneous power do you usually get on a clear day?

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +1

      70% of capacity. It is an unusual smoke filled orange sky day.

  • @elhajjisoufiane
    @elhajjisoufiane 2 года назад

    hello , thanks for the video , I have a question please , about how we can get a zero injection with stop producing the energy when there is no consumption by the load in the house "the system that we have is " plug and play solar system with a micro inverter " and we cant do the Storage of the energy

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  2 года назад

      These things are not that sophisticated to monitor energy use and dump excess energy. So you can’t do that.

  • @kpboix99
    @kpboix99 3 года назад

    I am ready to live off the grid too 😀

  • @kitsurubami
    @kitsurubami 2 месяца назад

    Why do you need the ac breaker before plugging into your house?

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  2 месяца назад

      It is for breaking the circuit for anything plugged into the same circuit as the grid-tie. You need that there or else the solar will just keep power it during a short.

  • @lowrollerscratcher3563
    @lowrollerscratcher3563 4 года назад +2

    Beatthebush you need post part 2 in your back up channel. You need more content in your back up channel

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +3

      Too few videos? I try but maybe I'm not making enough. Keep in mind I try to do things so it doesn't feel like a job.

  • @michaeleugeneandrews2010
    @michaeleugeneandrews2010 2 года назад

    We are so grateful for your video please generate more. Owner of Andrews 2010 solar electric company USA thank you so much

  • @justin_time
    @justin_time 4 года назад +1

    Solar-powered Tesla Model 3???

  • @AskIveSolar
    @AskIveSolar 3 года назад

    I was both excited and skeptical of this series. Me being a "use the power" vs "store the power' kinda guy...this is perfect but Im concerned about interfacing with my power company.

    • @netsai61
      @netsai61 3 года назад +2

      I don't think u will have any interface with your power company as long as u not producing more power than u consume

    • @AskIveSolar
      @AskIveSolar 3 года назад

      @@netsai61 Yeah I only have 200 watts of solar aka 140 or so.
      But in a new video he said you need a breaker. I'm just trying to learn.

    • @netsai61
      @netsai61 3 года назад +2

      You don't necessarily need a breaker for a small system like yours or his but adding one is just an added safety

    • @ddaky8
      @ddaky8 Год назад

      @@netsai61 is it important what kind of inverter i use...im looking to buy to try it myself

    • @netsai61
      @netsai61 Год назад

      @@ddaky8 grid tie inverter is what u need to do what he did in the video . I bought mine on Amazon 2 years ago when they were cheaper

  • @SolarResurrection
    @SolarResurrection 2 года назад

    Do it only feed in to Plugs on that 1 Ring main or does it pass thru the fuse box to other ring mains...Interesting worried to try feeding in electric.

  • @glennpham2763
    @glennpham2763 2 года назад

    How did you tie this system into the house electrical system?

  • @gerardjachymiak5822
    @gerardjachymiak5822 4 года назад

    Mr Bush. If you enjoy solar power so much do you think you will make your own solar panel system on your new house

  • @theChef1337
    @theChef1337 4 года назад +2

    LOL no way this is up to code with those wires running into your house. Is your utility account set up for net metering? Utilities require you to sign some sort of interconnection agreement and there are certain requirements needed before you just hook up solar panels and an inverter. In cases where your solar power exceeds your power usage, you would be exporting out power back to the transformer and could cause high voltage issues for your neighbors among other issues. Depending on how your meter is set up, you could actually be paying money to export power as certain meters are only programed to spin one way. Seriously doubt this this inverter is even UL rated which is typically required by utilities for residential use. I could understand if this was hooked up to an off-grid system in your back yard or something, but this is probably not something I would be making videos about. Really curious to hear if you thought this one through...

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +1

      Oh yes, you definitely need to have a contract in place and get all the paper work done. When in doubt, ask a professional of course. Is this UL rated? It depends on the inverter you get.

  • @sonoflars2721
    @sonoflars2721 3 года назад

    You need a charge controller if you want to add a battery backup

  • @Naturenerd1000
    @Naturenerd1000 3 года назад

    Crazy how much ash is falling on the solar panels! How much less power do these solar panels produce under these smokey conditions? I would imagine that even though desert places are sunny the dust levels may make solar panels less effective also.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  3 года назад

      I think it wasn't that much. After cleaning it jumped up maybe less than 10 watts. Sun light still gets through a lot.

  • @seewaage
    @seewaage 3 года назад

    Thanks for the super interesting video!

  • @user-bn3zo3mh5v
    @user-bn3zo3mh5v 2 года назад

    Am I better off running to my battery tied solar mppt controller then to the grid tie inverter or go straight to the cells and save a small panel and charger and just use my other 45 W panel to charge my 110AH of batteries I can get my boat batteries and triple my AH to the batteries.

  • @pb7379-j2k
    @pb7379-j2k 2 года назад

    Why do all these guys record their videos on cloudy (or in this case, smoky) days?

  • @blazeinthesky130
    @blazeinthesky130 2 года назад

    That’s awesome thanks

  • @AndyKabeer
    @AndyKabeer 9 месяцев назад

    Nice video, do u need permission from electric company PG&E ( I also live in Bay area) for sourcing electricity back to the Grid, is that needed ?

    • @VPC
      @VPC 15 дней назад

      Yes any electricity ⚡️ sent back to the grid needs to be discussed with the power company. However any electricity just used within your own home is a gray area. As long as your inverter doesn’t send power back to the grid in the event of a power outage then it should be ok, however it’s best to do your own research

  • @spicano6309
    @spicano6309 4 года назад

    What is going on at 7pm (air conditioning on as sun goes down)?
    Would be interesting update on what you get in December skies versus August.
    PS: $0.10 kWh (Energy, distribution, & transmission cost) in Oregon.

  • @vevenaneathna
    @vevenaneathna 4 года назад

    cool video

  • @shophacks
    @shophacks Год назад

    Where did you come up with the 0.8kW number in your ROI calculation? That should really be 300 W.
    Did you mean 0.8 kW-hr/day?

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  Год назад

      Yes, roughly 800Wh/day due to building shade.

  • @davesenor3146
    @davesenor3146 2 года назад

    I appreciate the great video

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita 4 года назад

    What power meter type do you have? A regular digital meter doesn’t know which way power flows so you get charged for sending power back to the grid. So if you’re using less power at any point in time than you generate you’ll have that condition.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад

      I have a smart meter.

    • @glapllc
      @glapllc 4 года назад

      I have a similar DIY. I have a smart meter. I have 6 -240 watt panels with a microinverter at each panel. The electricians wired the solar through it's own breaker and into my home's breaker box. I'm not charged for the extra electricity but I can't get a credit either, not net-metered.

  • @randomhobbies5796
    @randomhobbies5796 2 года назад

    So you just plug in the inverter into the wall outlet? And you added a breaker for safety?

  • @zachofalltrades6116
    @zachofalltrades6116 3 года назад

    did you have to contact the electric company and change your meter.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  3 года назад

      Yes, you may have to sign up for net metering from your utility.

  • @SteveOfTheMountains
    @SteveOfTheMountains 3 года назад

    What are the specs of the breaker? AC 10 amp ? I'm thinking Maybe lower than the line you put into on the building for '"test and learning" Also could put a dc breaker going in to the GT Inverter. What do you think?

  • @Real.Estate.Report
    @Real.Estate.Report 4 года назад

    If I ever get a sprinter van I'm going to throw solar on the top and spend 6 months in it! Got a lot of work to do first though ha...

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +1

      =D Live in a van eh? I imagine I might just get by with small amount of electricity. Probably the fridge sucks up the most power to keep things cool.

  • @jeffneal1518
    @jeffneal1518 3 года назад

    i need to know if you have to turn off the main breaker from the main panel box before you connect from the solar ? Or do i just plug into the wall receptacle and only using the breaker that supplies current to that particular room?

  • @ywan1
    @ywan1 4 года назад

    MPPT inverter.
    After I watched your video, I set up my DIY 400W system near my patio. Question: Howcome people said to set up my Solar Panel System grid-tied and connected directly to my MPPT inverter is not recommended as this will not only harm my inverter by putting high loads of power directly into my inverter, but it also has a low-efficiency due to its conversion (DC - AC - DC). It will be better off to put a charge controller and a battery bank to help me in the long run by protecting my system.
    However it will increase my initial cost, and more things need to replace in the future. I don't get it!! Are they trying to spend more than I need?

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +1

      Disclaimer here that when you set up your own DIY system, you still have to follow code and you're doing it at your own risk. With that said, if you go from solar to inverter back to using electricity somewhere, you lose efficiency at about 20%+. It's more efficient to just produce DC and take the DC back out.

  • @theChef1337
    @theChef1337 4 года назад +4

    Electric utilities typically bill on KWh not KW.... just sayin’

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад

      Yep. Did I say so somewhere I made the mistake?

    • @rickgalati2935
      @rickgalati2935 4 года назад

      @@BeatTheBush 7:18-7:20

    • @theChef1337
      @theChef1337 7 месяцев назад

      @@BeatTheBushto be fair, larger customers/commercial do get a demand charge as well so thats where KW would come into play

  • @tubejim101
    @tubejim101 3 года назад

    Great video.

  • @bnk28zfp
    @bnk28zfp 3 года назад

    can do similar with monocrystaline 200wat - 12volt panels? can you please show schematics how to connect? thank you!

  • @waynes84
    @waynes84 2 года назад

    So this is set up with combination of parallel and serial setup. What are the pro/cons?

  • @Naturenerd1000
    @Naturenerd1000 3 года назад

    I know it's expensive but with all the rolling blackouts it maybe worth it to invest in some Solar Pannel batteries to be independent from the unreliable California power grid.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  3 года назад +1

      You have a point and I'm certainly working on that!

  • @HyPex808-2
    @HyPex808-2 4 года назад

    With a grid tie system didn’t you have to have the utility come out and check the wiring? After the inspection they give your the green light to proceed and a turn on date no?

    • @ssoffshore5111
      @ssoffshore5111 3 года назад

      I think this is under the radar. The smart way to do this (illegally?) would have been to get a larger residential panel and use a microinverter so it can't back-feed the grid. Far safer, more powerful, and more efficient...

  • @chino4887
    @chino4887 Год назад

    Do you have the Grid-Tie inverter on 24/7 or do you turn it off at night and back on in the morning?

  • @GurtGobain
    @GurtGobain 4 года назад

    I like the idea of solar but it seems like it takes too long to pay off. Especially if I plan to move to a different house in 5 or 10 years, I don't want to set anything permanent up. Maybe in another decade it will be cheaper and more efficient.

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +2

      Yes, it might take too long but $300 on a test setup is more fun than a video game console. The setup I have is VERY temporary, I didn't even mount it, lol.

  • @ywan1
    @ywan1 4 года назад

    With your historical records, can you show us some maths how much you will save with four panels? How about your ROI for someone purchased everything without 2 free panels?
    Can you share your Amazon shopping list again?? I wonder which Y cable you use and connect four panels?

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +3

      I only took as much data as about 10 days worth in the summer. It's about 0.8KWh per day on two panels. ROI is roughly 6 years now with my fudge factor. If you get sun all day long in a properly mounted place then it can be less. Links for the products I used in the video description.

  • @frankt604
    @frankt604 2 месяца назад

    Why not get a battery and 2k inverter and power your fridge, etc. instead?

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  2 месяца назад +1

      Since this video, I have upgraded. 20kWh battery and 5k inverter, 1.6kW solar.

    • @frankt604
      @frankt604 2 месяца назад

      @@BeatTheBush Cool. I will look up some more of your videos. I’m trying to find ways to power part of my home without permission . Your video got me thinking just to power my fridge from my van that is already set up with power. I’m learning ideas from your RUclips channel.

  • @agentbob
    @agentbob 2 года назад

    great video, any updates with the 4 panel system after a year?

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  2 года назад

      Still works. Broken even already so it's making money from here on out.

  • @cjlowe1650
    @cjlowe1650 3 года назад

    What exactly is a Grid Tie system? How's it differ from other solar systems?

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  3 года назад

      grid tie means no battery. feeds energy into the grid.

  • @cashmonyz
    @cashmonyz 4 года назад +1

    Cool

  • @cryptohuntertoken1014
    @cryptohuntertoken1014 4 года назад

    What about the floods what you do then

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +3

      Stand on the panels and surf! Make sure your buy property with high enough elevation?

  • @randynewman3184
    @randynewman3184 2 года назад

    When your building grid tie systems. Beware if you dont have a analog utility meter if your make more power than your consuming and power goes out to grid you will be charged as if you are using said power!

  • @_Wai_Wai_
    @_Wai_Wai_ 4 года назад +1

    Hey dude, as a non electrical person. I do know the equation V = R* I, voltage = resistance * current. But what does this really mean physically? Why do electricians sometimes talk about current/amperage coming out of an outlet, while sometimes they talk about voltage?

    • @cashmonyz
      @cashmonyz 4 года назад +1

      Means don’t get electrocuted dude lol

    • @_Wai_Wai_
      @_Wai_Wai_ 4 года назад +1

      @@cashmonyz yea don't bother commenting

    • @BeatTheBush
      @BeatTheBush  4 года назад +1

      If you apply a voltage across something, a certain current flows. That something has a resistance. The amount of resistance dictates how much current flows.
      The resistance across a resistor is relatively fixed. If you double the voltage, you double the current. So V=IR is an equation that relates to what physically happens.

    • @theChef1337
      @theChef1337 4 года назад +1

      A water hose is best used to explain this. The water pressure is the voltage, and the water flow (gallons per minute) is the current or flow of electrons, which is measured in amps. Amperage really isnt a technical term, its just used by electricians as its easier to remember, but engineers call it current. The hose diameter is equal to resistance, bigger hose = less resistance = more water can flow.

    • @_Wai_Wai_
      @_Wai_Wai_ 4 года назад

      @@theChef1337 yes, I understand the water pipe analogy. What confuses me is when I try to use this analogy to describe AC vs DC. It gets to be counter intuitive if you try to think of AC current as water that flows back and forth. But what is the use when water keeps flowing in opposite directions. And of course, things get even more confusing when you use the water pipe analogy to describe inductors, capacitors etc... I do remember professors use water bucket to describe capacitors and batteries. I suppose capacitors are like a battery , but holds the Charge or voltage temporarily.