We Can't Hand Arsenal The Title! [MATCH PREVIEW]
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What kind of terrible inferiority complex do we have?! You play to win the game! Not wanting to give Arsenal the title is giving them the utmost respect. That’s not how you treat a rival. How can we possibly want to lose?!
Easy 😂😂😂
You're not a Spurs fan
lol Arsenal fan. You’re not fooling anyone
Arsenal fan spotted 😂
That is exactly how you treat a rival. You take them out with you.
Losing to stop rivals is just sad . Ashamed to me a spurs fan
Why now all of a sudden winning at all cost against the best team 8n the league for the last 5-6 years and 4 weeks ago mack Avery average team beat the crap out-of spurs , Arsenal is always top of the league but always comming 2nd ,so let it b 2nd
You play to win, to honor the ticket buyers and the fans at home who built the dynasties. You honor the game, if you don't play to win 100% you don't deserve to be there
You are not a Spurs fan
@@apexsom5954 and a fan base who says you’re not a fan cause you want to sun is also pretty pathetic
Up the Villa!
I can't believe you start this by saying "some" spurs fans want to win as if that's the weird way round
If you want to win you're not a spurs fan find another club
Final boss of Spursyness:
Cheering on Pep's boys against your own club, knocking yourself out of the Champions League, then watching as West Ham beat City on Sunday anyway and Arsenal get the parade.
Imagine 😂😂
Like me a spurs supporter chard my actual British enemy Manchester united against Arsenal on Sunday.
Cheed
I just can’t believe this nonsense, of course we should play to win if not what’s the point of playing football to lose? 3 points is what we require. If the Arsenal win the title who gives a damn, surely as true Spurs supporters couldn’t care less. We take it on the chin like we always do!
Of course we'll play to win.
But you can't help people to hope for a loss since we don't have anything to play for basically and they won't want to offer the title to our biggest rivals.
I think those are two different things and it's only natural in such a strong rivalry.
I'd rather finish 5th with 66 points and city champions than 5th with 67 points and Arsenal champions, dont you ?
@@antoinesenecal9076am sorry that's the weak mindset that will never let Spurs win anything significant. So u encourage the players to give 30%. If Ange notices players playing poorly and intentionally throw the game away he should resign and leave the club. Maybe that's what will wake the fans up. Spurs put themselves in this position Asrenal didn't.
@@Gratefulfellow
I don't think you got my point but that may be due to my poor english. What I'm saying is you can't help people feeling this way all things considered. I'm not saying that should be the mentality of spurs players and staff coming to the game. Those are two different things. And I don't think you're entitled to people's love for the club based on that
@@antoinesenecal9076 fair point.
Let’s just say, we all want spurs to win any game …… but absolutely will not be disappointed in the slightest if we lose unless it’s an absolute battering
FACTS!
Imagine Spurs winning both games, villa losing both, and Everton beating Arsenal, thats the dream 😂
Keep dreaming, we've got champions league end of
We need to win every game we play. It does not matter who wins the title. I am a Spurs fan. I am hoping for Spurs to beat MC. I fully agree with Ange's philosophy on this.
if losing is what will make "fans" happy just so that arsenal won't win the league is totally unacceptable as a spurs fan. That's not the mentality i want my club to go with. When big clubs are focusing on wining and progressing we are here debating about if it's okay for us to lose just to hinder a rival like what do u want the players to do just go and watch or what, ppl need to wake up this have been always our history when we don't like something we pressure the club to sack a manager, the simplest way. Like we are trying to build something, a team a mentality and that begins with us as supporters, results don't come overnight, if we don't stick to our believes and to what the manager is trying to apply to this football team than there is no reason to hope for wining something. Big clubs have big mentality and the responsibility is on everyone not just the management or the players but also on the supporters. Back up ur team ! to thick and thin. COYS!
FOR me it's not about just arsenal not winning the league, , Spurs will b hammered in the champions league. BUILDING a winning team ,going to play game after game against the very best in the soccer word ,team is losing ,will not be the right mindset in building .Spurs in the European league ,not the champions, will b better ,if the gaffer whant champions league he should have prepared the team better for those unnecessary losses against teams before playing Spurs that were very awful in their games ,playing Spurs, Spurs made them looked word beaters . So the gaffer should b pleased with 5th place where as Villa will b the real fit for champions league 2024 - 2025 season, Spurs should not give the game to city ,city should play too win that's what it is .
I can’t agree with you, sorry. The way the team and Ange rolled over for all our other big games (not a single win against Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and recently getting battered by Newcastle and Liverpool) is unacceptable and now they want to put in a performance against City and hand our biggest rivals the title? How about they first put in the performances to make us proud and we will return that pride. But they screwed it up, so this situation is all Ange and the players fault. Basically, lose the f-ing game!
@@phfamily9422 it's not about just one game i totally agree with u abt getting battered with the big games is unacceptable as well, but my point is abt a whole mindset not a game in particular. We should go with the intent to win, regardless of the opponent or the club's current position. I know we r not ready for the champions league yet i'm just saying that i can't watch a spurs game wishing us to lose only so that the rival won't make it. I don't care abt any other club, everyone has a vision and a project and they r working on it, so should we as well. At the end of the day we all want the best for this club i just hope we could come with more strong mentality if we want to achieve something.
@@benjaminsolomon3918 Personally, aiming for the Champions League might be a bit of a stretch for us right now, and I'm not deluding myself about that. We have areas to improve, and it's crucial to be realistic abt our capabilities. However, I believe that every opportunity should be embraced and approached with a determined mindset. I find it hard to comprehend the idea of hoping for our rivals to lose instead of focusing on our own progress and success. We need to adopt a proactive attitude and work diligently towards achieving our goals, rather than relying on external factors like rival teams faltering. Our success should come from our own hard work and dedication, not from wishing for others to fail.
Ah please, most you guys still back levy after he’s done everything to show you he doesn’t care about the club. Half of you guys don’t even have any pride in the club lol
I want my club to win who cares about who wins the league
Alright Sol, calm down we know it's you.
Gents. 20 year fan here. As much as it pains me because of the banter, Ange is 100% right. Wanting to lose is small club mentality. If they do win it, beating City won't be "handing them the title", because we effectively did it at the NLD. THAT'S the game we should have won, and the players need to remember that. RIvalry should be based on head to head, end of. Big club mentality is we go into every game thinking we can beat anyone, then everyone is our rival, and we'll be better than all of them. Believe.
100% this
Wanting us to lose just to spite Arsenal is loser behaviour.
Every game we hope for the win! COYS ❤
Wanting your team to lose just so Arsenal cannot win the title is the weakest\delusional\loser mindset ever. U play to win thats how u show respect to the rivalry. Happy Ange doesn't indulge in that weak mentality. This is a team Spurs have beaten 4 consecutive games at home. U play to win. You don't play to lose.
You sound like a an arsenal fan, loosing 3 points is way better than getting your noisy neighbors & biggest rivals brag for a whole season In your face
@@mrniceguy701 no am not an Aresnal fan but there should be integrity in the game. U wanting your team to lose is a backward thinking. Arsenal got to where they are because of hardwork, spurs fans having this mindset is why the team have never won a major trophy in 20 years. It's sad and Toxic. Imagine Real Madrid fan wanting their team to lose because they don't want Barcelona to win the league. Even though El Classico is both the same as North London rivalry but its TOXIC.
So lets not get Champions league football blimey what a mindset
I remember cheering Olympique Lyonnais in the 70s until we realised that they could have beat us on aggregate. But that was YEARS AGO in the EUEFA CUP
Banter aside ,play to win always ! The bad run of games against the top end table sides is still something asking questions of the club, the manager and the players. Werewolves of North London season again ,shy of silver at the Silver Lane ! Still a positive direction overall and Summer upheaval expected. Angeball is a style that can progress the club back onto the Glory path. Singing City 'til July and Blue Moon is good banter though ! C'mon you Toffees , Dycheball 'em lol CoYS!
What a teciculous debate. A true Spurs fan, irtespective of age,snould want Spurs to win. Think of it tho6s way, we already made Arsenal drop 2 points in the reverse fixture. Imagine then if they finish 2 points off City.
This is definition of a "small club" to worry about rival achievement instead of achieving ourselves. I'm a Spurs fan for 25+ years and I'm obviously in minority here but the only club which placement in EPL I care about is Spurs. I do understand "rivalry" thing but we are not as good as Arsenal for last couple seasons. For me , having Arsenal winning EPL should be turned into ultimate motivator for us. I would go and give Man City our best and not shy away and I wish we win just like it's any other game. BTW ManCity is good enough to not depend on any favour from us, so I'm for giving them a good match.
I don't think you're in the minority at all. Those fans singing Blue Moon obviously want City to win the league but it doesn't mean that they all want Spurs to lose the game. I was at the United game in whatever year it was, and I remember my auntie celebrating their goals but there was no cheer round the stadium
A true competitor always tries to win.
Nobody will throw the game. That's matches the history of Woolwich corruption, not us.
100% f'ing right.
Winning a meaningless match to hand your rivals a league title is a big loss
We are not competitors, we are an also ran.
Just a thought: Should Tottenham fans who intend to support Manchester City opt to not go for the match? I think it won't be fair to the THFC players to hand their own fans go against them.
Shocking mindset, confused how these people who want their team to lose...call themselves fans/supporters.
It's really simple, you are either with us or against us.
COYS!
I mean it kinda makes sense since we don't have anything to play for, especially if Villa gets something from tonight. And arguably CL football is a step to far in our process.
I d rather finish the season 5th with 66 points and city champions than 5th with 67 points and Arsenal champions...
@@antoinesenecal9076 As my gaffer said... "How are we going to ever be a team that wins things if we don't win the big games?"
Sure, arsenal winning fucking sucks..but again just hoping we win, villa continue to lose, and Sean Dyche has a masterclass saturday and puts his entire squad+youth academy in the penalty box!
Your so right I'm behind Tottenham to win 100 percent I don't understand some fans wanting us to lose in my mind these are not true Tottenham supporters the day we go out to lose a game that's when I'll turn my back on football its so wrong if we lose by playing great football and trying our best to ring then I wouldent mind but of we go out to lose then every Tottenham player and manager should be sacked it would destroy football for ever and every football supporters would hate us and rightly so but I believe anje isint like this and will want us to win 100 percent
Tottenham does not have to lose on purpose. M City will win on purpose. COYS.
Comments are spot on. Wanting to lose to stop another team from winning, even if it is Arsenal, is a loser mentality. We will never be winners with this attitude.
If you don't want to see us get 3 points, don't come to the game.
Go support another club
None of your business what people do or feel.
It's just a London thing..most of the fan base do not even care or can relate to the rivalry shared between these clubs..because we are not from London...there's millions of us BTW
Wanting to celebrate after losing. I guess the spursyness is in our fan base. You have no right to blame the players for not winning trophies if you have a small, weak mentality
It’s a real shame that Arteta can’t be swapped in to manage the team vs City tonight. Would mean I’d actually watch the match as Spurs would actually have a chance.
Brian, you seem a DTE guy, you are a unique voice, often with valuable points. What happened mate? Blind Freddy could see wanting us to lose to City makes Arsenal's fate more important than Tottenham's. Coming from a Spurs fan that's shameful.
Until you recant I'll find it hard to take you seriously.
This thing with City is just untenable. We must go out to win, then let the chips fall where they may!
We just need to play to win the damn game nuff said!!!
If Arsenal win the title they will get complacent and Tottenham will ties. But if they don’t Arsenal will improve their squad even more, leaving Tottenham behind…. I’d have thought Tottenham would want to catch up…
I want Spurs to play to win. If they lose I will look on the bright side, but if they win I'll be happy
If those “old school” fans want Spurs to lose then honestly they are the problem.
Singing Blue Moon on an away day train doesn't mean they will actually want Spurs to lose on the day. I think that's BS from these boys
old school fans-how disrespectful-those 'old' fans have been following Spurs for decades and they don't rush to social media with every thought/whinge-perhaps you'll be there one day
The way I look at this situation is I want the best for Spurs first and foremost not the worst for Arsenal. Just takes me back to my childhood, might as well get the Yu Gi Oh cards and beyblades out and embrace it
I kinda understand you guys who are in the UK how important not to let Arsenal win the league. Let think positively, Gunners have been so consistent throughout the season, even without our help, they could win the league. Say, if they win the title from our favor, we could mock them that they actually win because of us and we are the one who identify their destiny. This should cover the fact that they're being consistent. Will this even work ?😂. What a situation I don't wanna be in.
Totally hypocritical to criticise Ange so early on (some even asking for his exit!?!?) when we all know it’s take years to build a team who can genuinely contend. It’s not a switch, it’s a process….yet we’ve got people asking us to lose!?!? Mentality doesn’t change overnight being the point! If we don’t want to be in this position the answer is simple, win more! Use the pain of them potentially winning as some extra fuel for the fire….That aside, what we’re discussing here has absolutely no place in sport. So I’m strongly with Ange on this one, you lose, you take it on the chin, get back up, learn from it and come back stronger. Win or lose, you do it with pride!
If we lose our last 2 games, we will finish 6th or 7th probably. We must play to win both. Champions league is still possible with 6 points because Villa could easily lose away to palace. Also each league place lost, costs a premier club over 3 million, as payments are stepped down. Also European money is important when it comes to buying and attracting better players in summer. Forget Arsenal because whatever happens to them, is what happens.
We need one point to get Europa.
I am an Arsenal fan and if I was in your position right now, I would 100% want City to beat us.
I get it.
It's a very unique situation. In that UCL final, I was a Liverpool fan.
At the same time though, lets say you get a point in this game and that ends up giving Arsenal the title, It's not like Arsenal have come out of nowhere and suddenly won the title, we have been probably the best team in the league for a good while and probably deserve to win it.
City is the best team🤣🤣🤣
We won get cl,so most important thing is stop arsenal getting title. Happy with 5th from what was expected at start of season. Even if we did turn city over we not guarenteed to beat sheff utd knowing us. Following spurs since 1964 and have never wanted us to lose a game,but in this case want city to win
Initially didnt want us to beat City purely to prevent Arsenal winning the league.
Changed my mind now, its the wrong mind set.
The club needs to focus on themselves and give everything in every game regardless of what it means for other clubs.
Villa could lose both there games, possible by a significant margin.
And Everton are in good form 👀
“It will be hard to take if we win” WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU
Honesty of where we are.
Imagine finishing ahead of Arsenal for 6 seasons and win nothing ,and when they finish above us again they put in two title challenges and win a title.
We won’t hear the end of it and rightfully so. That’s what happens when your owners have no ambition for on field success.
Also we’re not ready for the champions league with these tactics and the attacking players we have. Son apart our defenders are better finishers!
More chance of a run in Europa. Being realistic of where we are
If “we can’t let Arsenal win the title”, we should’ve got a result at home on 28 April. That was our opportunity to stop Arsenal win the title. Man City are chasing history, we will need to play out of our skins, City have a shocker and we get all the luck - very very unlikely, but I’ll be cheering on for a win. I’m backing Ange. COYS.
To win a game is what we have done in most games. But to let Arsenal win the title is not what true Spurs fans ever want!
I'd rather them to lose this time!
COYS
The aim is to win every game and anything apart from that is negative football. COYS.
WE NEVER ROOT FOR A SPURS LOSS, TOTALLY CONTRARY TO THE MENTALITY WE'RE BUILDING
I’m sorry but you don’t understand the rivalry if you want us to win. I simply cannot bare the thought of handing out biggest rivals the league title.
There’s no arguments we have to lose!!!!
Supporting a deliberate lose is supporting match fixing
I think it was bad and a disgrace to bring it up with Ange in the Press conference he must wonder what sort of fan base we truly have. I hope it Inspires the team to beat City even more. Spurs 2-1
Guys your content is decent so well done.
In terms of the whole situation. If arsenal win the league due to spurs getting a result then you live with arsenal having a league title……
If spurs fans cheer on their opponent and actively want spurs to lose then they will always be known as the loser club with the losers mentality
Me personally , I’d rather keep my pride in my teamc
Arsenal fans would def so the exact same thing. Not sure who they are fooling😅
Sol Campbell is in the chat😅
As for the press conference your manager obviously isn’t gonna say we want to lose to stop Arsenal winning the league as I’ve seen people question his press conference
What would the atmosphere be like if spurs get a last minute winner 😂 imagine, that would be shit but good at the same time
Enjoyed the analysis from minute one..thank you for giving credit to my team where it is due, we definitely have been monstrous in 2nd half of the season... Big Up Spurs
We could have beaten City at anytime this year- would that have handed Arsenal the title too? When we play means nothing- 38 rounds decides the title- play to win, always, or go home. COYS
How sad😢
Genuine question, why are you going to the game?
I don’t care what arsenal fans say, I wanna win this game COYS
Your hatred of arsenal is more than your love for tottenham. Pathetic. If arsenal win then its down to their performance across the season. We should have fought harder to at least get a draw when we played them at home. Then we wouldnt be having this discussion.
this take is insane....
Draw against City. And City win their last game, with ARSEnal doing the ARSEy thing by losing their last game 😭
Concentrate on ourselves, Champions league would help us massively get where we wanna b. How does Arsenal winning or not winning the league help us
The biggest put-down Spurs fans can hand Arsenal is to beat Man C. It implies you don't care about Arsenal winning anything. It's irrelevant. The important thing is that Spurs succeed not that Arsenal fail. Forget the schadenfreude.
What a good job your manager and most of the players don't think that then eh ? 😅
Guys no need to worry about winning this game. City will be just too good in every aspect of the game. But you never know COYS
Arsenal fan here, GO SPURS
Well, why not give arsenal the title this year, and then get the satisfaction of snatching it out of their hands next season??? My integrity always hates the ideas of "throwing" games and I am going to root for the Spurs HARD and take it as a well-savored victory if they destroy Man City.
Man City would need 3 more goals against West Ham than Arsenal match against Everton. I take the draw because Villa will have to lose to Liverpool and an in form Crystal Palace away
What the hell! I want my spurs to win every game. I don’t care about the rest.
Everyone trashes spurs for not winning anything and this debate is a clear indication of why. Both players and fans don’t have the winning mentality. This debate makes me sick being a spurs fan
We need to lose
I dont care if we give arsenal the title if villa lose tonight we need to win if they dont its okay to lose
Why? What do you expect we'll achieve in Champions league next year?
@TomasHovanec-kw5pg it's not the ucl specifically that I'm interested I just want us to go to games with the right mentality.
The only thing we have as spurs fan under levy is arsenal not winning anything and for these cockroaches to pull out their best for this game then I would hate them forever
What's the point of this video if you don't want your team to win?
If we lose our next 2 games and Newcastle or chelsea win the last 2 games and if utd win the fa cup then we play in the conference leauge next season
It could happen football is like that and no one wants to play in the conference leauge
If United win the cup and Chelsea and Newcastle win, we're out of Europe all altogether as United get Europa league with probably Newcastle and Chelsea the conference league.
As an Aussie I just don’t understand this, we have rivalries in footy here but I would never want my team to lose just to thwart a rival
For everyone at home, I want champions league. But we simply WILL NOT get champions league even if we win the last two games of the season. It’s possible, but not probable. So what would you guys rather have? City win the league and we miss out on champions league? Or Arsenal win the league and we still miss out on champions league? I know what I’m choosing.
If you did not want arsenal to win the league, you should've beaten arsenal. Man utd fans did not want to rollover for giving city 4 in a row. The best spurs can achieve is a Beyonce concert.
YO! Pretend I was a hand model and made a fortune out of it. Then my wife divorced me. In order to prevent her from getting any assets, I chopped off my hands... THAT'S WHAT LOSING TO MAN CITY in order to sabotage arsenal is like... NO INTEGRITY in that strategy. LETS GO Spurs, beat Man City soundly!!
Hahaha pray to god the players dont have this shit mentality as the fans. Boo your own team and hope they loose 😂 this is beyond shameless
Arsenal winning the title puts pressure on our real handbrake, ENIC. I hate Arsenal, but anything to see ENIC get more criticism is welcome.
We will lose by 2+.
Why is this such a huge debate everyone acting like spurs are capable of beating city…. Even if spurs try win they get battered :/
Wow these guys are terrible "supporters" you should be demanding that you are in arsenals position not looking so much like a bittee tin pot club, we will gladly take our place in the champions league, we deserve it more and from manager to players to fans we have the correct mindset over spurs who absolutely dont deserve to be there
PLAY HARD AND GIVE YOUR FKN BEST. CITY WILL PUNISH YOU AND THAT’S FINE, CITY ARE INEVITABLE WHEN IT COMES TO CRUNCH TIME.
COME ON CITY😂
Arsenal only have a chance of winning the title because we lost to them at home.
To be a grown man, a fan of this team and to sit there with a straight face and say you’d intentionally lose so they can’t win is a level of sad and pathetic that needs to be studied. If we don’t want arsenal or whoever to win the title we should take it out of there hands and win it ourselves. Ohh that’s right we don’t care about winning at Tottenham we care about what arsenal is doing over anything else. This fan base is the definition of trying to keep up with the jones, we want to be like everyone else so bad. You know what I think, showing up with City ready to beat our faces in and blow Peps bald cap back and fucking dominate them would old more value than oh arsenal won the league. True men don’t worry about the man next door is doing, he takes care of his business so the men next door to him want to know what he is doing. We need to be the club everyone else wants to be, not the club aspiring to be another one.
I couldn't give less of a fuck about Arsenal to be honest... It's not ideal, but come on man... If Liverpool beat Villa, we have something to play for and that's all I care about 🤷♂
If you do care, imagine the scenes if Arsenal think they've won the league for a few days only for Everton to stink the place out and ruin their party... If we nicked a top 4 spot as well it would be absolute gold 😂
Childish
Spurs will finish 4th if you win both remaining games. Palace will beat Villa. Focus on your own team lads.
Would love to mate, would love to. But unfortunately Arsenal fans have been insufferable pricks for their entire existence and beating City will fuel that massively so it's gonna have to be a no.
We don't want to hand you the title to have the possibility of an outside chance of maybe getting in Champions League.
I guarantee if the positions were switched you absolute would be the same.
What sad little lives you lot live... 😂
This channel pushing the "prefer to lose" mentality is really poor. Fans don't want to lose to anyone, ever - regardless of the circumstances. Let’s secure Europa today, then see if we can pull off a magic act for Champions League this weekend. All other considerations must surely be secondary.
It is nice for those that "don't care" about Arsenal winning the league. For those of us living in and around London with many Arsenal mates who celebrate "St Totteringhams day" most years like they have won the league, it is yet more grief from them we do not need. Arsenal fans have a big chip on their shoulders and obsess about Spurs. Way more than Spurs fans do about them. They are pathetic and yes... we shouldn't lower ourselves to their level... but I am not judging Sim and Ben for having reservations about what a win would mean and whether it is worth the "banter" we will get for the next decade. COYS
Spurs fans still bang on about Arsenal moving north of the river despite it being 120 odd years ago and long before Spurs even became a North London club but it's Arsenal fans that have the chip on their shoulder? OK 😂
Arsenal will win the league maybe not this season or next season or season after but Arsenal will win the league at some point get used to it and keep crying because it will happen
FIRST!!
Facts! We cant give arsenal the title. Losing against arsenal then beat city to let them win the league. Typical spurs. Smh
You are not giving the title ARSENAL will deserve the title if they are good enough, these guys just don't see the big picture just a full on pair of Spurs tragic's and can't discuss anything without dreaming about what could happen when they no full well Spurs should focus on winning like their manager does
Same as when they discuss transfers saying anything to provide content no facts total guess work
That’s why we will never win anything..sorry spurs winning is more important than anything..