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Marc Morial Talks the National Urban League, Equity in America & More. The Karen Hunter Show
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- The Difference Between Black Leaders vs Leading Blacks. Fighting Back, What Does This Look Like? Marc Morial & Karen Hunter talk the National Urban League, Equity in America & More
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I listened to this conversation at least 5 times. I was appalled. God help us. We are on our own. Keep up the good work Prof Hunter
*Totally APPALLING!!!!!!* 😮
I agree.
I listened twice and let me make a big understatement. I’m scratching my head and am very concerned. Professor Hunter, keep up the good work. You asked good questions.
You're right, we are. We cannot rely on our elected leaders or our civil rights organizations. Very very few do anything to support us.
Hmmmm.
Not only should there be term limits in Congress but there should be term limits in our historically black organizations. 20 years is way too long We need new ideas and new solutions!
Agreed…Same for SCOTUS
It should be in the by laws.
Other variables may be is there a successor coupled with a willing volunteer to step up and mentorship. Also the board may just want to keep him on.
There is a disconnect when it comes to the Black leadership pipeline. A lot of old heads are not changing and welcoming the younger audience 23-40 years old. And those people are starting those organizations.
Just base on this conversation I have no confidence in his leadership. I believe in the mission of the urban league. However, leadership such as this distorts the mission for me. Professor Hunter, you showed up and showed out as you always do.
His camera view is insulting to me.
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Same
It would have been much preferred for him to have turned the camera off and have a profile picture displayed.
He didn't even try with the camera!
Ohhh nooo 🙅♀️ ...😮 @ejspeaks has a character Ms Jackie who says this is upsetting to me. Marc with a media personality as a wife & a media team...
As the leader of a well respected organization, he should easily articulate their mission and current programming. No way he would present himself this way on Good Morning America or Democracy NOW! He did not listen to the questions, he talked over you, and made the interview personal. You threw softballs trying to let the people know the work his organization is doing to shift the rise in anti-Blackness in this country.
He definitely made it about him.
Let me share this far and wide
He would have fixed the camera view if he was talking to Rachel Maddow or Jake Tapper. Disrespectful.
That's what I know, too. Interesting.
Woo chile...
True, I didn't even think of that...
I agree. Disappointing
I immediately thought that! That was dismissive camera angle language🤔
Wow!!!The shade starts with the visual.
IKR?! I was thinking the same thing.
Now I understand why WE are in trouble… So Called Black Leaders.. Great interview Professor Hunter!
We have no real leaders anymore!!
Professor Karen, we are so grateful that you always awaken us to the struggle and keep us mindful of the fact that we Must continue to remain focused on the prize! We must remain active, engaged, and VOTE. Love you my Sista!
He is so defensive. What was that all about??? This is why our people are so skeptical of other people that look like us. If you ask a question that they're not comfortable with they try to become intimidating. I can't believe in his leadership. We've seen so many like him over and over again. The website alone is full of trickery. If you have something that we can participate in, why does it have to be a "where's Waldo" maze.... he's a joke.
Thank you Professor Hunter for doing this interview. We love you 💛💛💛💯‼️
I listened to this conversation on your radio show. Having lived in New Orleans for a while and talking with people who've been around for several mayoral administrations, I wasn't surprised Morial reacted this way. People like him who've been able to have a smoother run in life due to their high social status (and not get caught for their corrupt actions behind-the-scenes) forget that only those in their bubbles see them as kings/queens. The rest of us have real questions needing actual answers.
Karen Hunter, thank you for being such a gracious person. You add so much substance to my life. I am more mindful of how I live in my purpose.
Your deliberation of, "How does it free us?" I hope he will end up in more loving conversations so he can show the organization he represents in a better light.
Wow how disrespectful he was I'm from New Orleans... He couldn't even look at you just sad .. yeah leader right.
*Same, so to be on good behavior I'll just say.......*
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Proud of how you held him accountable!
Ase!
Thank you Professor Hunter for asking the pressing questions! Much respect to you for that! I have had difficulty with the Urban League, by confused messages, and what their real job is. You just proved that my summation is correct! All talk, no action, but gets money, but our people suffer🎉❤ Who pays him!?!🎉 This is what Journalism is about! Asking tough questions!🎉
That was quite revealing. Old man being defensive is a red flag. Thanks.
Karen 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 SO proud of you!! He clearly didn't know who he was in conversation with nor the audience he he agreed to come speak to...okay, I'm done. lolol
He like to hear himself talk. 😮
Period‼He definitely didn't know. He should ask somebody.
13:58 Karen Hunter asked what does being a member of the National Urban League get a person? His answer: you get to be apart of a Civil Rights organization. Sorry, that answer is insufficient. He kept saying he is not the government, but Urban League gets federal dollars. So, the organization should be transparent.
When I heard his response all I could do was shake my head. He’s in a very important position, making a very large salary, and yet he puts this lack of professionalism and unpreparedness out for all to see. 😒
This was unbelievable. I feel it's time for him to step down as the leader of the Urban League. He showed this audience no respect by the way he didn't even answer simple questions Dr. HUNTER ASKED.
He set the camera at that angle because, subconsciously, he is looking down on professor Hunter and her audience.
The "Hunter" in the name tells it all! CATCHING em in the act, Professor Hunter😂😂
WOW!!! So Disrespectful! He didn't even have enough respect to pay attention and look at Karen during the interview. How can you expect people to follow you and conduct yourself in this manner on a platform with intelligent individuals who are informed and interested in what you're doing? Dear Sir, you lost me with this one. I could not, nor would I ever consider following or supporting what you are doing or an organization you are "Leading!"
Professor Hunter you handled this conversation masterfully. As a fellow Knubian you make us proud ❤
Professor Hunter I am proud to be a kNubian because it has given me and understanding of what a true conversation and offering Grace can be, my hat tips off to you in this conversation
Wow. Unbelievable and extremely disrespectful of him. Now I have more questions as to what the National Urban League has accomplished until his tenure. And I now I think what could have been accomplished under different leadership. Thank Professor Hunter. Just another Knubian Master class on many levels and lessons
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All of the chapters cater to white corporations and the boule.'
Not only was his presentation, including the camera view disrespectful to Professor Hunter and the audience, but also a poor representation of the Urban League. I listened to this on Urbanview but had no idea of how bad he actually showed up. Karen did good by not calling him out earlier.
And doggone it, what the hell was he looking at the whole time? 🤨
no idea. And it's not like he didn't know we would be on camera.
This was intentional on his part, poor camera view and gaslighting
I've heard the term "Looking down your nose at people", now I fully understand.
I think Marc is accustomed to the legacy of the organization and his articulation being enough to get him through interviews. He wasn’t prepared for this level of an interview or interviewer!
Prov, you're literally a professional, patient,knowledgeable and excellent with keeping a straight face. Thank u for hosting the interview.
Come through Karen 👏🏾‼️
Ask not what the Urban League can do for you but what you can do for the Urban League......
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Now we know why he continues to get the Grants every year... It's because they know HE'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO HELP PROPEL US FORWARD AND EMPOWER US TO DEMAND WHAT IS OWED.
It’s a red flag when a service / activist organization leader highlights his new HQ as one of his top proudest moments. In his tenure, I would hope that there would be many things that would top that.
Professor Hunter, thanks for sharing this conversation with Marc Morial, appreciate the information Mr. Morial has shared and the follow up questions you asked, right on point! kudos
....and, that's where it went COMPLETELY off the rails.
His camera view is concerning to me 🤔🙄
Wow, this is way worst with the visuals. What kind of leader or interviewee never look the interviewer in the eye or looks at the camera, or knows little about the organization's finances. His appearance, mannerisms and lack of professionalism reflects negatively on him and the Urban League since he is the face. He said nothing, so we have to continue to look to and support our local chapters. Thank you Prof Hunter for showing us how to hold elected officials accountable.
I hope that Marc Morial is able to take the critique well and receive this as constructive criticism. This conversation can easily become combative, and it seems like it started lean that way.
Thank you, Karen! I don't see how in the heck he's a leader of fifty people when he's in need of leadership. The Urban League deserves better so much more.
I really respected this guy. Wow. Just floored. Gotcha question? Ummm no sir she was asking real questions! Then he said your radio show at the end...I caught that shade!! Ego. Just wow.
I guess that's how you act when the people you claim to represent ask tough questions about that representation. If you have a $1.5 million salary, then you should be OK with responding to the people about your work. Unbelievable yet believable.
@theboldauthority those questions weren't even tough. Just he seems use to canned responses and being asked the same stuff over and over. So when he had to go off script he couldn't handle it. But I get what u saying. But for me it was a shocking. And professor Hunter is a professional all the way!
@@theboldauthorityExactly!💯
"I don't want haters attacking and taking cheap shots at my organization"... no sir, it's called accountability. When you act in good faith, the arrows fall short.
He can't be serious ...he has 1.2 million dollar salary and for what
🔥👋🏾🙏🏾❤️🖤💚🙏🏾 - Professor Hunter Thank You for facilitating and moderating another ‘Governance Structure’ conversations in the ‘Social Structure.’
He’s done “many interviews” which explain why each of his answers sound rehearsed and practiced. His defensiveness spoke volumes even before the bit of a tantrum at the end from simple questions he could not answer to. Thank you sm Karen, I’ve learned so much from you and your composure here was truly amazing.
Mr. Morial seemed to be overly defensive this entire interview and unwilling to be introspective. This was kind of disappointing.
OMFG! So much to dissect from this interview. The one take away, he's not the leader we should have. To be in the room and play go along to get along. None of the accomplishments you mentioned centered the people. To go from being over 500,000 to now 150 but don't bring the power off the half million in the room with you, when we think your advocating for all of us. Prof Hunter the Grace for you not to eat him alive! (i know that look) just shameful display. Urban League do better!
This was difficult to watch. He has been at the Urban League since 2003. It may be time for him to move along.
Him and Hazel beat 'em up dukes 🥊🥊 from the NAACP. Time to go🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️
Tell us your salary then…Dang!! Coz it seems like that’s the Only Question that got an authentic response from him, everything else was headache inducing- He literally filler-busted the interview Not answering Prof Hunters Questions and only in the End we got a glimpse of his soul…
He just literally turned people away from the urban league with this interview. And i seen him do interviews via Webcam sincs covid-19. So i know he could havd done better.
Hey Karen, I just heard your commentary concerning Marc Morial and I'm proud to learn and say you are a woman of integrity and character, and you won't back down on what you believe is right or wrong. You will call it out, thank you! I, for one will not be contributing to the National Urban League until there is less attitude and more openness and answers to common questions as to why certain decisions were made and to be challenged on their merits.
I agree with the criticism with this guest but I also think this was important to witness. Thank you Karen ❤.
When the math don’t add up, they start adding decimal points. Give lengthy baseless answers to limit the amount of questions. Classic POLITRICKS.
What is going on with you Marc? You are speaking as if you are doing the viewing audience a favor. There is clearly a need for change in leadership. This man is presenting in an overly confident, detached, entitled, and arrogant manner. He used canned talking points and did not show up as a leader.
Maybe he ain't ate his oatmeal this morning?
1. If "damn the question I'm going to answer what I want" was a person.
2. All his answers and attitude are why membership is down.
3. Anybody else think he "went full Winnie The Poo" on this call?
4. Just wow. 😢
I don't believe he took this interview seriously based on the angle of his camera. Inconsiderate and unprofessional.
Thank you for your email restraint and patience with him. Over talking and a tone of defensiveness is not a good look. I think differently about him now. Keep asking the questions.
WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?! He's not that old that he dont know how a teleconference call works - - He wouldnt set his camera up like that if he was talking to CNN - - The questions didnt even seem hard lol why did he show up like this ???
he sounded like he is used to getting soft balls...and not comfortable with receiving direct questions...imo, I didn't even hear her throw him a hard ball question. they were all questions he should have expected...mayb he's been having a rough summer 😏
Karen, thank you for pushing Marc Morial for answers on what exactly is the National Urban League mission, funding and accomplishments. Morial’s responses were so pathetic. He should be able to provide a list of numerous community programs and plans where they are working or have improved the quality of life for individuals. The fact that he considers building a headquarters in Harlem and attending conferences a achievement are major red flags. He’s appears to be just a figurehead gatekeeper collecting money with no purpose.
As a student at Dillard University, during the school orientation, I thought his father, Ernest "Dutch" Morial, was a white man until he opened his mouth. He spoke about being a NAACP attorney, standing up for justice, and filing lawsuits that helped dismantle segregation and Jim Crow laws and policies. As mayor of New Orleans, he called out the media's shallow reporting, which didn't discuss the city's real problems, and stood up to the police teamsters union whitemail strike against reorganization by canceling Mardi Gras in New Orleans in 1979. I was a grass root worker in the neighborhoods for his campaign registering voters and at the voting locations . Dutch was reelected in 1982.
This is marginalization at its finest. And this is my experience dealing with several "leaders" in our community as a business owner and community organizer... despicable.
"I wanna say this with great respect," as Morial said in this video and I mean just as much respect as he meant: Marc Morial was extremely disrespectful towards you in this interview, Dr. Hunter and totally wasted YOUR time. He interrupted and talked over you repeatedly and said absolutely nothing when he spoke.
Well…as a leader…he should understand cameras angles! Just sayin.
Conversation a little different from others. One would need to be prepared to answer simple or hard questions. This show is very professional and sometimes a little humorous. Love you professor Hunter.😊
He left the camera around 29:37 🤣🤣🤣 A nerve was struck after questions about leadership.
This interview was missed opportunity for the Urban League. It is clear he did no research on Karen Hunter Show or maybe he did 🤔. He might as well just continued to decline the interview. I wonder does the funding from Urban League Nationals get distributed to the local chapters?
I just watched this "interview " and received no information from him. I went to watch some of his interviews from the last few months, and he just doesn't give answers to anyone. One thing he did do was respectfully do the zoom in a professional matter. For whatever reason he has a disdain for Karen Hunter. It was very evident, he couldn't hide it. I'm actually happy that he showed himself, now we know. He could never offer me the kool-aid 😊
Great!! Looks like I am not alone in my feelings about this interview with Marc Morial.
I am so sorry Professor Hunter. That guy was insulting not only to you but your viewers. He couldn’t even control/manage his own camera. Was he drunk? He belittled himself too. Please don’t invite him back for another interview unless he can promise he will be civil and behave himself 😐
Continue the great work. Jail break it all.
Wow. That was a bit disappointing, but not surprising.
This was really a great opportunity to build and collaborate. It requires some conversations that may not always be "easy", but isn't that really what it takes sometimes? This isn't a game or just some social "hobnobbing".
Karen was questioning him (as SHOULD be expected in an interview), and Mr. Morial really seemed triggered.
There seems to be an "old guard" that is so immersed in their own traditional thought, that anything that differs from that gets them anxious/defensive. We should be able to question groups that profess to represent us, so that they can develop and truly represent us...
It's time for him to go. If you are familiar with Karen Hunter and the type of questions she asks, there is no way that you should come on her show as the CEO of an organization and not be able to speak specifically about how the Urban League's programs and why someone should become a member. Also, as a non-profit organization, YES, your finances are PUBLIC. And why are you on this show not speaking face-to-face to Karen? Why are looking at his nostrils?
Im curious how his frat brother Cornel West would feel on how Marc presented himself during this interview.
Just watched M.Moriel (Pretend)to be on Your show. He could and should have Canceled. I watched on RUclips and he made sure to leave an Awful impression. I hope the local chapter interaction is more upfront and engaging. Thank you for giving us a Birdseye view of how he responds to US PEONS. IF I was going to join, Now a Hard No!
He wasn't paying attention AT ALL...
Hit dog Hollers Professor...These are the poignant questions and of our leaders that need to be ASK...if he gets offended, then to me he has something to hide. Hold no punches and put his feet to the fire. Great job Professor
Ugh, he was awful! Does the Urban League no longer have a broader vision for helping the Black community? The disrespectful interruptions and condescension was too much. Dang... Thanks for letting him talk as it was revealing! Urban League has some clean up to do because he left us listeners with a poor opinion of the current Urban League!
Whew Lawd!!! Sista Professor, your professionalism is impressive ...what an example! You could have DRAGGED him...he would have deserved it...but you did not.
He earned his degree in African American studies in 1980...he was REALLY proud of that...but he has no response for what the NUL is CURRENTLY doing to address education reform. I guess his degree did not teach him about advocacy.
When you asked him "what does fight look like"...he thought he was dropping gems. WE know it means to use your voice. His response lacked depth.
When he said the Black history he learned, he learned at home and referenced Ebony and Jet, it was at that exact moment that I knew he was out of his league. I obviously have no issue with either of those publications and what they did for our community...but what I am certain of is, this man is not equipped to be the leader of a reputable civil rights organization.
I loved your question about the fingerprints...and your follow up about the dense material on the website. His defensiveness prevents him from engaging in an intellectual conversation and ultimately prevents him and the organization from growth!!!
Is he a leader? Not for us. He said one thing right...there are Black leaders and there are those who are leading blacks...we know which one he is. How ironic. Members and affiliates of NUL really need to reevaluate some things.
His arrogance is GROSS!!!
I will be sharing this interview in my policy class.
Professor Hunter, your face tells it all. Your thoughts were definitely cutting cartwheels. Loved the interview. You are awesome, if you dont already know it, and keep up the great work please. It gets me through my day as a law enforcement officer. His new name in my book is Mr. Rudeness. 😂😅😮❤
too often we have "leaders" representing the collective us for too long with nothing to show for it except their heaft salary, their power and their prestige.
Already not a fan of National and some local chapters are much more together than others but wow his response regarding org transparency and the reasoning behind limiting it - I mean if you are working for black civil and economic rights/access, attacks against one's organization should be anticipated. PERIOD. His mansplaining and that microaggression aside, red flags really start waving hard when non profits make excuses that justify limiting transparency. Thank you Karen for pressing this issue.
This is how I act when I answer the phone when I really didn't want to answer the phone. If he didn't want to talk, he should of let it go to voicemail. He knew what he was doing.🙄
Some of us are 'wonky' in our policy and assessments. When guests prepare and have audience familiarity, it's lots more engaging and thoughtful. I appreciate the intent, as always Dr. Hunter
To be honest, I didn't know that the National Urban League was still in existence. Where's he been?
An uncomfortable and challenging conversation, with plenty of pushback, particularly near the end. Excellent. Complacency and standard operating procedure is not enough.
Great counters Karen...
WOW 😳
He had alot of nothing to say. Great job Karen!
Watching it after listening to it live gives it a whole other level of disrespect. I'm so shocked by this but I should bc it's a lot "Black Leaders" in these roles that's cosplaying if we're being honest.
when I first tuned in, I started to get the checkbook. But as it went on, I simply see 'I'm gonna get you sucka' (what happened to the revolution? "they gave us gubment jobs". He is a bottleneck...gate keeper...house person.
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not the "I'm gonna get you sucka" reference. Spot on!
Is this the camera angles he would give Good Morning America ??
I’m still upset how Mr. Morial undervalued underestimated and marginalized your show and the #KarenRebels by not answering your questions, stick to his soundbite talking points, and not even be camera ready for the interview. I hope the National Urban League board members see this interview and determine if his tenure as president should continue. Very disappointed
This guy appears very self centered arrogant and puffed up. I didn’t feel an inkling of genuine concern for Black people from this social structure due. I hope they vote him out.
Professor, you should change that cover image for what we really got. 😅
I should.
This interview highlights the dollar amount needed to silence a Black leader.
He told us exaclty why he became leader of the Urban League. It had nothing to do with freedom or liberation. A "civil rights institution" - what is that?
I enjoy the diversity of your guests and conversations Karen. Love your passion and heart for our community. Thank you!!
He should have been more professional with his camera view. He didn’t take the time or make the effort to let us see him face-on. Hmm….
Is this impromptu? Where is the perspective of this body language being displayed 😮
nope...he knew we would be on camera way BEFORE.
Exactly. He just didn't want to be there and made a choice to lose all his professionalism.
@@catali033 perhaps.
The Urban League needs a new leader. Expeditiously (*in my T.I. voice)
The excitement on Professor Hunter's face at 1:41 transitioned to a look of 'please don't let this go off the rails' at 4:39. She literally hit the 🤦🏾♀️. BTW Foolishness Friday brought me here so there you go 😂😂😂
I really wanted to have a productive conversation. He did not. It was weird, unprofessional, disrespectful to my audience and the reason why these organizations have been getting away with doing not much while collecting a whole lot of $$$...no accountability.
He came off as a "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" which is fine, not really, but they could start with the kids. Get a bill introduced at the Federal level that gives federal money to any and all schools that have more than 30% African American student population; where it goes to that specific school and not the state to distribute.
Is it me or were the questions not really answered. He tried to beat around the bush. Thanks Karen for doing your thing. CUT him OFF!!!
I was looking so forward to this interview with Marc Moral. He truly disappointed me with the disrespect of the host and her audience. Marc Moral used to be a decent leader of the Urban League. I can't say that any more after watching this RUclips video. This has to be a 67 year old individual who knows better and knows how to interact with an audience of professional people, and to do this audience today like this was not only disrespectful, insulting and inappropriate it was totally disastrous for the Urban League. He cut off and turned off thousands of people who might have, not only renewed their memberships, but potential new members as well. Unbelievable!
In the end, he is still getting paid and going home to a nice house and a comfortable life.