What made Doc so dangerous, was the fact that he just didn't give a shit. He had a terminal disease, he knew he was living on borrowed time. There was only one thing he cared about, the Earps. You could call him everything under the sun, you shoot at him and he wouldn't take it personal. But, go after his friends, threaten their lives, or kill them. That he took very personally, his undying loyalty was his best trait.
Jacob, Doc Holliday died of tuberculosis at the age of 36. As a footnote… You may have heard in the movie Doc say, while looking at his bare feet, as he was dying at a sanitarium in Colorado Springs.....“Ain’t that funny.” Doc always believed he would die with his boots on.
How Val Kilmer didn't win an academy award, let alone get nominated for one, is highway robbery. His performance was brilliant. Russell was great also, but Val's "Doc" was incredible..
Don't forget the great Sam Elliott he may have had a smaller role but he is still one of the best movie cowboy's of all time and Powers Boothe as Curly Bill was another great performance. I think Tombstone is the best western ever made and Quigley Down under is my number 2 Just saw the new Magnificent seven it was pretty good but Tombstone totally raised the bar for modern westerns
Clark Bucher Val Kilmer would. easily top any "top ten character immersion/transformation" lists for this role because he got so into it that he completely disappeared. he no longer looked and sounded like Val Kilmer. he looked like a whole other man and how he was able to produce that voice and accent is just surreal. agreed, i had no idea Tombstone wasnt nominated for any awards, and Kilmer deserved every nomination for supporting actor at least
Yeah, a number of actors were robbed here, and this film and the cast deserved all the accolades they could hand out. I can't think of one weak performance, or one poor scene. Directors: George P. Cosmatos, Kevin Jarre with screen-play by Jarre also. The historical accuracy of the film was pretty well researched too, with some embellishment for the theatre.
He really was stellar in this part. He had all the best lines. "What are you doing out here (sick as you are)" "Wyatt Earp is my friend." "Hell I've got lots of friends" "I don't" "Oh Johnny, I'm sorry, I forgot you were there. You may go now." "You so drunk...you're probably seeing double" "I have two guns, one for each of you." "Don't any of you have the guts to play for blood?" "I'm your Huckleberry" Then later when reminded of this, "Hell I was just fooling." "I wasn't" And that was the moment Johnny Ringo knew he was going to die. "Are you going to do something, or just stand there and bleed?" Oh wait, that wasn't Doc's line. Still pretty good, even if it wasn't one of the best.
Well, considering that Johnny Ringo was the psychopath villain with zero remorse or redeeming values, his death at the hands of a somewhat sympathetic Doc was quite refreshing, don't you think?
I almost feel sorry for Johnny. The pain he must've been suffering from in his final seconds. The way Doc reacts after delivering the fatal blow is absolutely badass level. Ringo went barking up the wrong tree that day
"You look like someone just walked over your grave."...Brilliant line & the best trash talk line of all time...Val Kilmer's Doc Holiday impression was impossible not to applaud in Tombstone...The sickly appearance and the cowboy attitude & line execution throughout was incredible acting, imo...
notafraidoffuture Ringo definitely looked uneasy during the cup spinning scene. Almost as if he thought to himself "Oh, shit. This guy's not intimidated by me."
+Andrew H (Mike) Nope. "Doc" wasn't indimidated. He could do...half drunk... with his whiskey cup what another mf could do with a gun. And he mimiced Ringo's moves so well. What he was saying "...imagine me with a gun...."
+Andrew H (Mike) Yeah, that scene sets up the tension between the 2 characters so well. Excellent film overall, even though they took a lot of liberty with historical facts ;)
+Richard Bowman I always thought it was more him making fun of how empty flash is. As in "Great Johnny, you can spin your gun around in your hand. Can you actually shoot as well as they say you do?"
+Robert Styes Terrific movie, terrific portrayal by Kilmer, but I have to grimace when he says, " . . . bay-yah." I'm a Southerner, lived in Georgia all my life, and I've never heard anyone around here use the term "bay-yah" for "bear." CuffColl.
@@skeithmustdie6488 i always thought it was a refrence to the rumors of ringos suciude. Aka makig a very sarcastic excuse implying that ringo must of killed himself. Which both earp and doc knew was not the situation
Val was the Heath Ledger of this movie for sure. I salute everyone though for their superb acting in this flick. Michael Biehn was about as awesome as they get in this movie too but Doc Holliday just over shadows his character a bit.
While the gunfight at the O.K. corral is probably the best known in westerns, this scene between Doc Holiday & Johnny Ringo in the Russell//Kilmer version of Tombstone is tops for me. Not only is the actual gunfight terrific, but the drama leading up to it is spectacular.
That line was put in there for a specific reason. The real Johnny Ringo is believed to have committed suicide under an oak tree hence "You were just too high strung."
This is possible the best gunfight scene I have ever seen in a cowboy movie. The way the tension is built with the music and the almost hypnotic dance they do to get into their position was just great. After Ringo is shot the music once again supports the fury of Doc Holiday. Unfortunately, the history of this event says it never happened with Doc Holliday as the assassin.
pero en la vida real en el viejo oeste a RINGO no lo mata doc holliday el muere de suicidio mejor dicho se suicido cansado de la vida que llevaba todos sus amigos habian muerto y ya no habia por q vivir murio a los 36 años xd
nelly arce Yes I have read, in several places, that some historians think that Ringo committed suicide, but that doesn't make for a good movie scene. :-)
Skip Patterson amigo te recomiendo "RINGO Y LA PISTOLA DE ORO" CON MARK DAMMON" es antiguita pero buena; sin los efectos especiales que hay ahora pero es buena ....amigo ud. recomiedeme un buen western americano o italiana para ver algo bueno saludos
Skip, the 'dance' aspect of the fight was the one thing that seemed odd to me. Other than the fact that Ringo probably committed suicide that is. Why would either of them step backwards, taking a chance of tripping and falling? If you want to get on your opponents weak side, you would step a bit to the right and forward, to your strong hand, forcing him to fire across his body or to step backwards and possibly trip. I just don't think a gun fighter would do anything that would put him in a position in which he might trip. Gentleman duelists shot with their bodies turned so that their left side was towards their opponent, thereby trying to minimize the target for their enemy, but I don't think that is what the director was looking for in this scene. I think he just wanted a bit more drama. But my knowledge of gun fighting is way limited! LOL! Still a great scene, regardless of my quibble. Kilmer nailed it.
@ :23. The look on ringo's face. One of utter disbelief and disappointment embedded in a Web of resignation. The look of a man who knows the time is near. Well played.
To me, this scene is EASILY on par with ANY great cinematic scene you care to mention in the entire history of film! Period! Why Val Kilmer wasn't at least nominated for an Academy Award for this role is simply inexcusable. IMO, not recognizing Val's performance in this role lessens the integrity of the Academy and tarnishes their reputation for acknowledging outstanding performances, pure and simple.
+SS Trey I don't blame him. If I were Ringo, I'd be scared shitless too. Just look at how Holliday approaches him from the dark shade like that walking very slowly out of the darkness and into the light.
This is why Doc went there. Many people say he was looking for death but for him friendship was everything and Wyatt was one of his friends, perhaps the only one. He would do nearly anything to save him. And this is why he decided to face Ringo, to save his friend.
Just got back from Tombstone. Drove out to Johnny Ringo's grave over at Turkey Creek. The tree they found him up against is still there as is his grave/head stone. It's a bit in the wilderness, but worth the(rather long) drive. It is a beautiful site with water, trees, right at the foot of the mountains. Movie of course took some fictional liberties with the facts, but worth the visit to Tombstone. Tombstone/the city is amazing.
That quickdraw would have unscrewed the top half of Ringo's head like a lid coming off a jar of peanut butter. Still a great scene, though. Johnny, that no good bastard.
Probably because the movie bastardized the history of these guys and replaced it with bullshit one-liners and fictional instances. In other words...typical Hollywood.
Peace Harmony Yep. I've never been impressed with K. Russell as an actor...til now. As for "Doc" laying in bed..then shootin' down Ringo... remember him sayin' "I wasn't as sick as I made out to be." He knew everything that was going on. Hell he manipulated things to be the way they were ...for the most part.
In reality Johnny Ringo probably committed suicide as a result of being drugged out of his mind. Doc supposedly wasn't anywhere near Ringo when Ringo got shot. It could have been Earp. He had a legitimate vendetta. But Ringo also made a lot of enemies. A lot of ppl could have snuck up, shot him dead, and made it look like a suicide.
I think Holliday wants Ringo to shoot him. That's why he doesn't finish Ringo off with a second shot, instead putting his gun back in the holster once he's certain Ringo is mortally wounded and can no longer threaten Wyatt, why he shouts "Come on!" to egg the dying man on to shoot him, and why he disgustedly says, "You're no daisy. You're no daisy at all," when Ringo can't get his gun up. Holliday hates the thought of dying of tuberculosis more than anything. He'd much rather take a bullet, but hasn't quite got it in him to do the job himself.
HelotOnWheels what made Doc so dangerous was he didn't care if he died in a gun battle or not. He was already dying of disease. He had nothing to lose since he was already dying and that's why he was so feared in the movie, he had no fear. From the last scene seems like he always thought he would die in a gun battle with his boots on. Probably the way he wanted it since he was dying slowly.
Now that I think about it, you may be on to something. From my understanding, Doc was the guy would wanted to die in gun battle(dying with your shoes on) instead of old age or quietly in his sleep, which is why he has that moment on his death bed with him looking at his feet and laughing at the irony of it all. He was probably hoping that Ringo would have been possibly the perfect candidate, especially considering that very much saw himself in Ringo. Sure he wanted to kill him to protect his friend but I think there was also the possibility this was it for him...
Doc also knew he was the better gunfighter, and would beat Ringo on the draw, hence the fear from Ringo facing a sober Holliday, and well aware that he wasn't scared to die in a duel. Historically Ringo's body was found under a tree with his gun nearby and a head wound, it is conjectured that it was a suicide, but the film takes appropriate liberties with history, leaving the viewer wondering.. what if.. what if Holliday really went there and settled a score in a duel... and did it on behalf of his dear friend Wyatt, who he knew would likely die in such a duel against Ringo.
Excellent film and the best scene. The gunfight at the OK corral was a picnic compared to the gunfight at Matwan WV. Just wasn't as glamorous or film worthy as it was a result of a battle between labour and capital. Truer story though than the OK corral which was an earner for Earp and thus his glamorized story.
Doc got inside Ringo's head in the saloon. He knew Ringo was too smart to kill him in cold blood in front of all of those witnesses. Furthermore, he learned that Ringo extended his arm when he drew, whereas Doc shot right from where his holster was, making all the difference....
Doc wasnt as fast as ringo and doc knew it...thats why he tossed the hand with the cig in it in the air that threw johnnys timing off just for that 1/1000 of a second amd thats all it took for ringo to meet his maker
This is no standoff!! This scene was a showdown. Ringo dies. That means, somebody (Holliday) was the victor. In a standoff, nobody wins; it's a stalemate.
What is brilliant in this was Holiday's gun fighting stance. He stood sideways so even if he lost the draw his left arm would take the bullet, protecting 90% of all of his vital upper torso organs unless he took a head shot so he could still return fire with his right arm. Training and experience matters. Obviously from gun fighting other veterans in the same stances, Holiday's first shot was a head shot. Johnny Ringo, standing there in a face to face in a wide open position from killing unexperienced people was easy money. A very good movie.
I love how Ringo had that smug, shit eating grin right up until he saw Doc. He wanted an easy victory but he knew right then that the odds went from 90% Johnny 10% Wyatt To 50% Doc 50% Johnny
Val Kilmer's portrayal of Doc Holliday was IMO akin to Heath Ledger's Joker or Marlon Brando's Don Corleone. Coming from me, that's the highest of praise. Some actors seem to be destined to play a certain role and literally bring a character to life when they do so. Brando, Ledger, & Kilmer (among a few others) found those roles.
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What made Doc so dangerous, was the fact that he just didn't give a shit. He had a terminal disease, he knew he was living on borrowed time. There was only one thing he cared about, the Earps.
You could call him everything under the sun, you shoot at him and he wouldn't take it personal. But, go after his friends, threaten their lives, or kill them. That he took very personally, his undying loyalty was his best trait.
Too bad in real history, their friendship ended because of a jew broad.
@@jacobberry5138 his friendship ended because of tuberculosis, you nazi sympathizer.
Ronan Louvel He is right
Jacob, Doc Holliday died of tuberculosis at the age of 36.
As a footnote… You may have heard in the movie Doc say, while looking at his bare feet, as he was dying at a sanitarium in Colorado Springs.....“Ain’t that funny.”
Doc always believed he would die with his boots on.
Nothing seems as dangerous in this life as a highly motivated individual with nothing to lose.
" I wasn't." The words and the change of tone in the voice sent a chill up my spine.
How Val Kilmer didn't win an academy award, let alone get nominated for one, is highway robbery. His performance was brilliant. Russell was great also, but Val's "Doc" was incredible..
Don't forget the great Sam Elliott he may have had a smaller role but he is still one of the best movie cowboy's of all time and Powers Boothe as Curly Bill was another great performance. I think Tombstone is the best western ever made and Quigley Down under is my number 2 Just saw the new Magnificent seven it was pretty good but Tombstone totally raised the bar for modern westerns
agree with you,just fantastic..
Clark Bucher Val Kilmer would. easily top any "top ten character immersion/transformation" lists for this role because he got so into it that he completely disappeared. he no longer looked and sounded like Val Kilmer. he looked like a whole other man and how he was able to produce that voice and accent is just surreal. agreed, i had no idea Tombstone wasnt nominated for any awards, and Kilmer deserved every nomination for supporting actor at least
Yeah, a number of actors were robbed here, and this film and the cast deserved all the accolades they could hand out. I can't think of one weak performance, or one poor scene. Directors: George P. Cosmatos, Kevin Jarre with screen-play by Jarre also. The historical accuracy of the film was pretty well researched too, with some embellishment for the theatre.
He really was stellar in this part. He had all the best lines.
"What are you doing out here (sick as you are)"
"Wyatt Earp is my friend."
"Hell I've got lots of friends"
"I don't"
"Oh Johnny, I'm sorry, I forgot you were there. You may go now."
"You so drunk...you're probably seeing double"
"I have two guns, one for each of you."
"Don't any of you have the guts to play for blood?"
"I'm your Huckleberry"
Then later when reminded of this,
"Hell I was just fooling."
"I wasn't" And that was the moment Johnny Ringo knew he was going to die.
"Are you going to do something, or just stand there and bleed?"
Oh wait, that wasn't Doc's line. Still pretty good, even if it wasn't one of the best.
"watch it johnny, I hear he's real fast..."
"A lot faster than you'll ever live to be."
lol
TotenAuge (DeadEye) ... Different movie.
Double like
Damn, yeah he warned em
Prettiest man I ever saw...
Wyatt: "Alright, lets finish it."
Doc: "Indeed Sir, the last ride of Wyatt Earp and his immortals!"
I love that!
Better showdown than those I've seen in the old old spaghetti westerns.
How Val Kilmer wasn't even nominated for an Oscar I will never know !!
the academy doesn't like westerns, or comedies
Imagine a world where movies like this are still made...
I think my favorite part his how he keeps talking to him.
John Taylor my too
Well, considering that Johnny Ringo was the psychopath villain with zero remorse or redeeming values, his death at the hands of a somewhat sympathetic Doc was quite refreshing, don't you think?
@@rlouie05 right I don't believe Doc nor Wyatt were Psycho killers Ringo was
by all accounts Ringo was cold blooded
but clearly scared shitless of Doc LOL
Indeed, sir. The last charge of Wyatt Earp and his Immortals..
I almost feel sorry for Johnny. The pain he must've been suffering from in his final seconds. The way Doc reacts after delivering the fatal blow is absolutely badass level. Ringo went barking up the wrong tree that day
"Say when."
"You look like someone just walked over your grave."...Brilliant line & the best trash talk line of all time...Val Kilmer's Doc Holiday impression was impossible not to applaud in Tombstone...The sickly appearance and the cowboy attitude & line execution throughout was incredible acting, imo...
This is the best gunfight scene I have ever seen.
3:17 "The last charge of Wyatt Earp and his immortals!" Val Kilmer's Best Role!
Val should of got an Oscar for this role. Great acting
IMHO, one of the top 5 westerns in the history of cinema.
4 people ain't no daisies.
LOLOLOLOL !!!!!!!!
Three years later 28 people joined the no Daisy club
Do your research and learn what that means
notafraidoffuture Ringo definitely looked uneasy during the cup spinning scene. Almost as if he thought to himself "Oh, shit. This guy's not intimidated by me."
+Andrew H (Mike) Nope. "Doc" wasn't indimidated. He could do...half drunk... with his whiskey cup what another mf could do with a gun. And he mimiced Ringo's moves so well. What he was saying "...imagine me with a gun...."
+Andrew H (Mike) Yeah, that scene sets up the tension between the 2 characters so well.
Excellent film overall, even though they took a lot of liberty with historical facts ;)
+Richard Bowman I always thought it was more him making fun of how empty flash is. As in "Great Johnny, you can spin your gun around in your hand. Can you actually shoot as well as they say you do?"
Peace Harmony That too...
Doc studied Ringo when Ringo was spinning his gun
Ringo: "I was just foolin' about"
lol
Doc: "I wasn't."
Absolutely ICE COLD!
The moment he said "I wasn't" I said "Uh oh."
I wasn't yeah my man!!!
snoozeflu yeah, right!
@@mijomcgyver6270 NICE .
I'm afraid the strain was more than he could bare.
+Robert Styes Terrific movie, terrific portrayal by Kilmer, but I have to grimace when he says, " . . . bay-yah." I'm a Southerner, lived in Georgia all my life, and I've never heard anyone around here use the term "bay-yah" for "bear." CuffColl.
+Robert Styes *bear
Robert Styes what does that mean Well what did he mean by it?
+Cookie Monster44 It means that the pressure brought on by the situation got to Ringo, and he crumbled beneath the stress.
@@skeithmustdie6488 i always thought it was a refrence to the rumors of ringos suciude. Aka makig a very sarcastic excuse implying that ringo must of killed himself. Which both earp and doc knew was not the situation
Val was the Heath Ledger of this movie for sure. I salute everyone though for their superb acting in this flick. Michael Biehn was about as awesome as they get in this movie too but Doc Holliday just over shadows his character a bit.
+DrBIeed Kilmer overshadowed everyone. Russell & a few others...to their credit.... did hold their own. But Val Kilmer really "did the damn thing."
DrBIeed check him out in The Salton Sea! Real good movie.
While the gunfight at the O.K. corral is probably the best known in westerns, this scene between Doc Holiday & Johnny Ringo in the Russell//Kilmer version of Tombstone is tops for me. Not only is the actual gunfight terrific, but the drama leading up to it is spectacular.
Come on. Come on! Oh, Johnny! Come on! You're no Daisy. You're no Daisy at all. Love this scene
forever one of the best western scenes ever made
You're no daisy. You're no daisy at all.
0:22 it was at this moment Ringo knew, he messed up
This is my favorite scene in this whole movie. Val Kilmer was BRILLIANT!!
"Im your huckleberry"
(Johnny Ringo pisses pants.)
This was and is still my favorite scene from this movie
Which is also my favorite western
LMAO! he was just too high strung...
That line was put in there for a specific reason. The real Johnny Ringo is believed to have committed suicide under an oak tree hence "You were just too high strung."
Doc Holiday: there never was a more steadfast and loyal friend.
"You're no daisy. You're no daisy at all!"
I wasn't.
The most chilling line in any film.
Double like.
Dead leaves on the ground but green on the trees. Still a great scene
This is possible the best gunfight scene I have ever seen in a cowboy movie. The way the tension is built with the music and the almost hypnotic dance they do to get into their position was just great. After Ringo is shot the music once again supports the fury of Doc Holiday.
Unfortunately, the history of this event says it never happened with Doc Holliday as the assassin.
pero en la vida real en el viejo oeste a RINGO no lo mata doc holliday el muere de suicidio mejor dicho se suicido cansado de la vida que llevaba todos sus amigos habian muerto y ya no habia por q vivir murio a los 36 años xd
nelly arce Yes I have read, in several places, that some historians think that Ringo committed suicide, but that doesn't make for a good movie scene. :-)
Skip Patterson amigo te recomiendo "RINGO Y LA PISTOLA DE ORO" CON MARK DAMMON" es antiguita pero buena; sin los efectos especiales que hay ahora pero es buena ....amigo ud. recomiedeme un buen western americano o italiana para ver algo bueno saludos
+nelly arce Rooster Cogburn, High Noon, The Searchers
Skip, the 'dance' aspect of the fight was the one thing that seemed odd to me. Other than the fact that Ringo probably committed suicide that is. Why would either of them step backwards, taking a chance of tripping and falling? If you want to get on your opponents weak side, you would step a bit to the right and forward, to your strong hand, forcing him to fire across his body or to step backwards and possibly trip. I just don't think a gun fighter would do anything that would put him in a position in which he might trip. Gentleman duelists shot with their bodies turned so that their left side was towards their opponent, thereby trying to minimize the target for their enemy, but I don't think that is what the director was looking for in this scene. I think he just wanted a bit more drama. But my knowledge of gun fighting is way limited! LOL!
Still a great scene, regardless of my quibble. Kilmer nailed it.
How did Val not win an oscar for this?
@ :23. The look on ringo's face. One of utter disbelief and disappointment embedded in a Web of resignation. The look of a man who knows the time is near. Well played.
the advantage of shooting from the hip and coming up for a full draw
Val Kilmer knocked this scene outta the ball park. The best scene in the entire movie.
lmaooo fight not with you holiday....son mad scare now!! this scene is mad funny
O maior duelo que já vi....
To me, this scene is EASILY on par with ANY great cinematic scene you care to mention in the entire history of film! Period! Why Val Kilmer wasn't at least nominated for an Academy Award for this role is simply inexcusable. IMO, not recognizing Val's performance in this role lessens the integrity of the Academy and tarnishes their reputation for acknowledging outstanding performances, pure and simple.
I’m your huckleberry
Ringo was legit scared
+SS Trey I don't blame him. If I were Ringo, I'd be scared shitless too. Just look at how Holliday approaches him from the dark shade like that walking very slowly out of the darkness and into the light.
Ringo learned a final lesson, don't mess with a dentist, LOL!
Val Kilmer played Doc Holiday perfectly!
I was just foolin. I wasn't lol
🗣️"Say When"
Doc reminds me of revolver ocelot.
If Earp would have faced off with Ringo, Johnny would've taken him.
In real life he wouldnt
This is why Doc went there. Many people say he was looking for death but for him friendship was everything and Wyatt was one of his friends, perhaps the only one. He would do nearly anything to save him.
And this is why he decided to face Ringo, to save his friend.
I was just foolin' about. ...
I wasn't.
Poor soul he was just to high strung 😂
Just got back from Tombstone. Drove out to Johnny Ringo's grave over at Turkey Creek. The tree they found him up against is still there as is his grave/head stone. It's a bit in the wilderness, but worth the(rather long) drive. It is a beautiful site with water, trees, right at the foot of the mountains. Movie of course took some fictional liberties with the facts, but worth the visit to Tombstone. Tombstone/the city is amazing.
0:18 that is Johnny Ringo's pants browning moment
porpus99 I watched from your link and laughed out loud! You can almost smell the poo as he paused in his boots!
Nice clip friend...Thank You.
53 people are just too high strung.
A heavy metal band name: "Im your Huckleberry" first song "You're no daisy."
That quickdraw would have unscrewed the top half of Ringo's head like a lid coming off a jar of peanut butter.
Still a great scene, though. Johnny, that no good bastard.
Probably because the movie bastardized the history of these guys and replaced it with bullshit one-liners and fictional instances. In other words...typical Hollywood.
+Richard Nixon That's right.....but Val Kilmer ("Doc" Holliday) is supremely badass..! "...my hypocrasy goes only so far."
+Richard Bowman Agreed; that remains Val Kilmer's best role to this day. Russel is great as Earp too.
Peace Harmony Yep. I've never been impressed with K. Russell as an actor...til now. As for "Doc" laying in bed..then shootin' down Ringo... remember him sayin' "I wasn't as sick as I made out to be." He knew everything that was going on. Hell he manipulated things to be the way they were ...for the most part.
I agree Mr. President! Doc may have been a lunger with one foot out the door...but he could still shoot the bend out of a river any day!
Have to totally agree with Clark below on this one - I mean an incredible acting performance!
Above all other things..... This movie makes me love and appreciate my bro's
In reality Johnny Ringo probably committed suicide as a result of being drugged out of his mind. Doc supposedly wasn't anywhere near Ringo when Ringo got shot. It could have been Earp. He had a legitimate vendetta. But Ringo also made a lot of enemies. A lot of ppl could have snuck up, shot him dead, and made it look like a suicide.
One of earps wives said him and doc shot ringo from range stealthly
Doc Holliday: the original badass
It's funny how curly bill warned him that he was real fast
So Doc really was in his prime
+LAraiders88 Yeah.... he was..!
best scene ever!
I think Holliday wants Ringo to shoot him. That's why he doesn't finish Ringo off with a second shot, instead putting his gun back in the holster once he's certain Ringo is mortally wounded and can no longer threaten Wyatt, why he shouts "Come on!" to egg the dying man on to shoot him, and why he disgustedly says, "You're no daisy. You're no daisy at all," when Ringo can't get his gun up. Holliday hates the thought of dying of tuberculosis more than anything. He'd much rather take a bullet, but hasn't quite got it in him to do the job himself.
+Helotonwheels I don't know how anyone could manage to read a scene so wrong,but you sir have managed the impossible
HelotOnWheels what made Doc so dangerous was he didn't care if he died in a gun battle or not. He was already dying of disease. He had nothing to lose since he was already dying and that's why he was so feared in the movie, he had no fear. From the last scene seems like he always thought he would die in a gun battle with his boots on. Probably the way he wanted it since he was dying slowly.
Now that I think about it, you may be on to something. From my understanding, Doc was the guy would wanted to die in gun battle(dying with your shoes on) instead of old age or quietly in his sleep, which is why he has that moment on his death bed with him looking at his feet and laughing at the irony of it all. He was probably hoping that Ringo would have been possibly the perfect candidate, especially considering that very much saw himself in Ringo. Sure he wanted to kill him to protect his friend but I think there was also the possibility this was it for him...
Doc also knew he was the better gunfighter, and would beat Ringo on the draw, hence the fear from Ringo facing a sober Holliday, and well aware that he wasn't scared to die in a duel. Historically Ringo's body was found under a tree with his gun nearby and a head wound, it is conjectured that it was a suicide, but the film takes appropriate liberties with history, leaving the viewer wondering.. what if.. what if Holliday really went there and settled a score in a duel... and did it on behalf of his dear friend Wyatt, who he knew would likely die in such a duel against Ringo.
knobcreek7 I don't see YOUR interpretation anywhere.
"He's educated....Now I really hate him."
-Doc Holliday
I was just foolin about....were you now Johnny?????
Aww I was just foolin about. I wasn't. Classic
Excellent film and the best scene. The gunfight at the OK corral was a picnic compared to the gunfight at Matwan WV. Just wasn't as glamorous or film worthy as it was a result of a battle between labour and capital. Truer story though than the OK corral which was an earner for Earp and thus his glamorized story.
The part when Doc Holliday say it I wasn't you know death is fixing to come
great to see that scene again, but is ringo saying, alright lawman, let's do it or does he say langer?
Lunger. It was a slang term they used to use for someone with tuberculosis.
'Fight not with you Hollyday'
before that, he blow a silent fart
Sure is
earp was at the johnson willard fight..heavyweight title,,most of the films are bullshit,,but kilmer deserved an oscar for his portrayal of holiday
Doc got inside Ringo's head in the saloon. He knew Ringo was too smart to kill him in cold blood in front of all of those witnesses. Furthermore, he learned that Ringo extended his arm when he drew, whereas Doc shot right from where his holster was, making all the difference....
Guy whom played Johnny Ringo is really good too, great scene.
I always thought it was the most badass thing that he shoots Ringo while still holding his cigarette.
Doc wasnt as fast as ringo and doc knew it...thats why he tossed the hand with the cig in it in the air that threw johnnys timing off just for that 1/1000 of a second amd thats all it took for ringo to meet his maker
One person is not my huckleberry.
Best movie scene ever
This is no standoff!! This scene was a showdown. Ringo dies. That means, somebody (Holliday) was the victor. In a standoff, nobody wins; it's a stalemate.
What is brilliant in this was Holiday's gun fighting stance. He stood sideways so even if he lost the draw his left arm would take the bullet, protecting 90% of all of his vital upper torso organs unless he took a head shot so he could still return fire with his right arm. Training and experience matters. Obviously from gun fighting other veterans in the same stances, Holiday's first shot was a head shot. Johnny Ringo, standing there in a face to face in a wide open position from killing unexperienced people was easy money. A very good movie.
"I'm your huckleberry..."
Val Kilmer's best play Doc Holliday ever.
"say when" -Doc Holliday
Say when
How come this johnny ringo looks different from the earlier johnny ringo in the bar when they first meet
remember the scene where he was getting a shave and a haircut for 2 bits ?
I love how Ringo had that smug, shit eating grin right up until he saw Doc. He wanted an easy victory but he knew right then that the odds went from
90% Johnny 10% Wyatt
To
50% Doc 50% Johnny
Don't Mess Whith Doc's Best Friend it's all he had to live for
"i wasn't"....at that moment jonny realised he fucked up
The funny thing is, Ringo was no coward and he actually was really fast. He just met a man who really gave two shits.
Doc holiday - each and everyday alive is a holiday.
love this scene
Val Kilmer's portrayal of Doc Holliday was IMO akin to Heath Ledger's Joker or Marlon Brando's Don Corleone. Coming from me, that's the highest of praise.
Some actors seem to be destined to play a certain role and literally bring a character to life when they do so. Brando, Ledger, & Kilmer (among a few others) found those roles.
Does anyone know if Crown The Empire's song named Johnny Ringo has anything to do with this movie?
0:58.... And at that moment, Johnny Ringo knew he was fucked.
Now I see why none of the outlaws wanted to fight doc good grief
What does Ringo mean when he said "Alright Longer let's do it! "
"Lunger" is what you called some one with tuberculosis
Red dead redemption 2 brought me here
Hahahaha! Alright then.