When I was younger (in my 30's) I played with my feet more square to the target line. I had nearly constant lower back pain and I eventually needed a repair for a torn meniscus on my left knee. I was also constantly at the chiropractor during golf season. As I got older I got in the habit of flaring both feet out a bit and the difference is obvious and immediate. I don't have anywhere near the backpain that I had in my 30's and 40's despite being in my late 60's now. And I have no trouble getting into a full backswing position. This is a huge game changer for me.
Just wanted to thank you Rob. I have taken on board your Foot Flare advice as well as the tips on Trail arm elbow position and Grip thumb placement. (To the side of the shaft, not on top pointing straight down) Tried them all together for the first time at the driving range, yesterday. Took a bit of adjusting to get comfortable but those 3 simple changes have made a big difference. Couldn't stop smiling at the improved distance and consistency. I had a 21 year break from Golf and at 65 it's good to know that I can still learn.
Hi Rob. As soon as I saw you start to discuss the trail foot square setup, I knew exactly where you were going with this video. The square trailing foot is a feature of people who advocate the rotary golf swing technique which you described. I think if I am not mistaken why this type of stance is still being taught is because Hogan advocated both the stance and the swing as a spring concept. And many people consider Hogan a god in the golfing world so he can't be mistaken. Thanks.
For many of us (not very good) amateurs it is wonderful to get advice on doing something that can be rationalised so plausibly. With your reassurance, it is easier to ignore those (perhaps better golfers) who say that flaring the feet is wrong. Thanks.
Foot flare is the key to long term golf, I've adopted it since I follow you, and it made the whole world of difference, I have no more stress on my back, at 66, its the answer to enjoyment.
Such an important message! Regardless of flexibility people’s femurs and hip joints vary in shape and size meaning some people perform more athletically and healthier with feet flared out. In other sports people are fully aware of this e.g., in gymnastics some people who are incredibly flexible can only sit in a middle split with femurs ‘turned out’. They do not lack flexibility-they simply have different bone structure. It is mindboggling that many golf coaches coach as though there is one way to stand to the ball! Important video!
Rob, I had a 10+ year gap of real playing and when I left feet were square and now they are flared. It's taken me some time to get used to it but it definitely helped me with balance and stability.
Great to hear you talk about this Rob and happy to hear pros push back against some of the golf dogma out there. I'm not much of a golfer....yet, but I am lifetime athlete, and there is not a sport in the world where a truly square pr pinned stance is ever used when power and dynamic motion are required. None. The idea that the golf swing uniquely benefited from this was always absurd to me. While it could work, it is certainly not optimal for most. Thanks for taking the time to break this down and provide solid insights. In appreciation.
Rob, as you know I hammer this principle on every lesson. It's amazing how many tour pros still don't do this enoicg and immediately experience pain relief. Great vid. One of my favorites!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
I’m front foot out and back foot basically perpendicular. I need resistance to the my back swing to keep control over the club and loading my back knee helps me unload consistently straight through or slightly left
👍🏻 Please make a video on correct driver stance width and whether that stance should be open or closed. If you’ve already made this video, kindly give me the link.
Excellent video, as usual. Flaring the rear foot also makes it MUCH easier to bank the foot through the down- and through swing. I’m 73 and find I get the best results flaring my rear foot about 20° and my front foot only about 10° at the most.
the TPI seems to be applying all the training concepts that college footballers preparing for the NFL combine and NHL hockey players are using. all great for elite performance athletes between 18 and 30 but a bit ridiculous for most people.
I think that one of the biggest culprits of this foot position issue was Ben Hogan’s Five Lessons. He advocated a square right foot, but maybe that was to reduce his tendency to hook the ball.
I saw a Gary Player clinic, and he was telling guys to keep the trail foot square to feel the torque in the leg .I couldn't believe it . I didn't follow that advice.
@@robcheneygolf1We all have the right to disagree of course. But Gary Player has won nine majors, surely he’s an authority on the subject matter of golf? Curious why folks disagree with him?
How anyone can still advocate locking in your foot to add extra strain on your knee is boggling. At least today, modern shoes aren't anywhere as near as grippy as the old spiked shoes that could damn near lock your feet to the ground.
When I was younger (in my 30's) I played with my feet more square to the target line. I had nearly constant lower back pain and I eventually needed a repair for a torn meniscus on my left knee. I was also constantly at the chiropractor during golf season. As I got older I got in the habit of flaring both feet out a bit and the difference is obvious and immediate. I don't have anywhere near the backpain that I had in my 30's and 40's despite being in my late 60's now. And I have no trouble getting into a full backswing position. This is a huge game changer for me.
Amazing! Thank you for sharing your story! 🙏🏻
Just wanted to thank you Rob. I have taken on board your Foot Flare advice as well as the tips on Trail arm elbow position and Grip thumb placement. (To the side of the shaft, not on top pointing straight down) Tried them all together for the first time at the driving range, yesterday. Took a bit of adjusting to get comfortable but those 3 simple changes have made a big difference. Couldn't stop smiling at the improved distance and consistency. I had a 21 year break from Golf and at 65 it's good to know that I can still learn.
That's amazing, Mike! Thank you for sharing your story. Keep up the great work! 👍🏻
Hi Rob. As soon as I saw you start to discuss the trail foot square setup, I knew exactly where you were going with this video. The square trailing foot is a feature of people who advocate the rotary golf swing technique which you described. I think if I am not mistaken why this type of stance is still being taught is because Hogan advocated both the stance and the swing as a spring concept. And many people consider Hogan a god in the golfing world so he can't be mistaken. Thanks.
For many of us (not very good) amateurs it is wonderful to get advice on doing something that can be rationalised so plausibly. With your reassurance, it is easier to ignore those (perhaps better golfers) who say that flaring the feet is wrong. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful! 🙏🏻
Foot flare is the key to long term golf, I've adopted it since I follow you, and it made the whole world of difference, I have no more stress on my back, at 66, its the answer to enjoyment.
That’s amazing to hear! Thank you for sharing your story! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Will apply this to my game tommorrow. Great video.
Thank you!
Such an important message! Regardless of flexibility people’s femurs and hip joints vary in shape and size meaning some people perform more athletically and healthier with feet flared out. In other sports people are fully aware of this e.g., in gymnastics some people who are incredibly flexible can only sit in a middle split with femurs ‘turned out’. They do not lack flexibility-they simply have different bone structure. It is mindboggling that many golf coaches coach as though there is one way to stand to the ball! Important video!
Thanks for your contribution, Chris! 👍🏻 You make some very important points! 👌🏻
Rob, I had a 10+ year gap of real playing and when I left feet were square and now they are flared. It's taken me some time to get used to it but it definitely helped me with balance and stability.
Good to hear! 👣
Great to hear you talk about this Rob and happy to hear pros push back against some of the golf dogma out there. I'm not much of a golfer....yet, but I am lifetime athlete, and there is not a sport in the world where a truly square pr pinned stance is ever used when power and dynamic motion are required. None. The idea that the golf swing uniquely benefited from this was always absurd to me. While it could work, it is certainly not optimal for most. Thanks for taking the time to break this down and provide solid insights. In appreciation.
Rob, as you know I hammer this principle on every lesson. It's amazing how many tour pros still don't do this enoicg and immediately experience pain relief. Great vid. One of my favorites!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Thank you, MM! #networkpower 👣
I’m front foot out and back foot basically perpendicular. I need resistance to the my back swing to keep control over the club and loading my back knee helps me unload consistently straight through or slightly left
Taking on the TPI, eh? Bold. Keep up the excellent work.
👍🏻 Please make a video on correct driver stance width and whether that stance should be open or closed. If you’ve already made this video, kindly give me the link.
Excellent video, as usual. Flaring the rear foot also makes it MUCH easier to bank the foot through the down- and through swing. I’m 73 and find I get the best results flaring my rear foot about 20° and my front foot only about 10° at the most.
Funny… I am doing the opposite! 😂… May be I will try it
Sir Thank you for your valuable advice
the TPI seems to be applying all the training concepts that college footballers preparing for the NFL combine and NHL hockey players are using. all great for elite performance athletes between 18 and 30 but a bit ridiculous for most people.
I agree
I think that one of the biggest culprits of this foot position issue was Ben Hogan’s Five Lessons. He advocated a square right foot, but maybe that was to reduce his tendency to hook the ball.
I agree the Hogan book is a big reason why people think the trail foot should be turned inwards at set-up.
As a senior with two knee replacements, a closed stance with both feet flared is a no-brainer for better hip turn and no stress on my joints.
Couldn’t agree more with you, John! 👍🏻
I'm a senior and flaring out feels way better, thanks Rob!
More gold Rob
Thanks, Eric! 🙏🏻
Flared out is much easier on the knees and there is much more freedom of rotation 👍🏻
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In theory, yes it could give more performance…like adding Nitro to your car, it will work in a small size but too much you blow your engine.
I saw a Gary Player clinic, and he was telling guys to keep the trail foot square to feel the torque in the leg .I couldn't believe it . I didn't follow that advice.
There's not much that Gary Player says that I would tend to agree with or follow!
@@robcheneygolf1 True here.
@@robcheneygolf1We all have the right to disagree of course. But Gary Player has won nine majors, surely he’s an authority on the subject matter of golf? Curious why folks disagree with him?
How anyone can still advocate locking in your foot to add extra strain on your knee is boggling. At least today, modern shoes aren't anywhere as near as grippy as the old spiked shoes that could damn near lock your feet to the ground.
Yes if you don’t believe Rob wait till you’re my age (80) and tell me what you think !
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