The History of the Southwest Conference: College Sports' Saloon

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • This summer has been the summer of realignment in college sports. With Houston, BYU, UCF, and Cincinnati joining the Big 12, followed by Oregon and Washington announcing they would join USC and UCLA in the Big 10 and Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and Utah jumping ship to the Big 12, nobody was quite surprised to see Cal, Stanford, and SMU jump to the ACC. We're all just so used to it by now.
    But this isn't the first time massive change has happened in college sports, even in the state of Texas. With Rice moving to the American and SMU announcing their jump to the ACC, every member of the former Southwest Conference---Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Houston, Rice, SMU, Arkansas, and even schools like Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Southwestern, and Phillips University---has moved conferences at least once since its creation in 1915. While it stood for just over 80 years, its legacy isn't that of great athletics or all-century teams, but that of under-the-table deals and men in suits too busy either paying players or bragging about their successes to move forward as a group. And it cost them their conference. Turns out everything is bigger in Texas---except television payouts in 1990.
    Join me as I provide a quick run-through of the Southwest's history and the history of its major players, all crammed into under 20 minutes. As always, if there's more to the story than what I'd said in the video, or if I worded something wrong (or if I was just flat out wrong) be sure to point it out in the comments below.
    All video and audio is utilized under Fair Use, under the pretext of education.
    Source Credits:
    WholeHogSports
    TSHAonline
    ESPN
    Sports Illustrated
    Some screencaps taken from Sports Illustrated and Wikipedia

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  • @nutt2252
    @nutt2252 Год назад +50

    Jesus this is terrible.

    • @bosserman444
      @bosserman444 Год назад +4

      In what way?

    • @AJ-vm8ft
      @AJ-vm8ft Год назад +17

      @@bosserman444I would assume he isn’t happy with how his favorite team is portrayed.

    • @MrDJViciousDelicious
      @MrDJViciousDelicious 11 месяцев назад +1

      I saw this comment before I watched and was like, how? Now I see it lol. So many political dog whistles that he just hates America and wants everyone to be sorry for something they never did 😂 bro yes it was white people who moved to Texas you aren’t breaking news by including the word “white” you’re just interjection your politics into a sports documentary.

    • @cynoflads
      @cynoflads 9 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@AJ-vm8ftthat team being Tennessee?

    • @AceManning18
      @AceManning18 2 месяца назад

      What a butthurt little Susie 😂

  • @willg7836
    @willg7836 11 месяцев назад +18

    A small detail I absolutely love and appreciate is that you use retro logos to represent different eras and the evolutions of the schools.

  • @Nohandleentered
    @Nohandleentered Год назад +94

    This channel has been my favorite new find on YT. I’m eager for an ACC history. I’m from Maryland and still inadvertently refer to the Terps as an ACC team.

    • @TimothyFitch
      @TimothyFitch Год назад +14

      Everyone else thinks of them as an ACC team too

    • @joshuahollowell95
      @joshuahollowell95 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@TimothyFitcheven though yall have been in the Big 10 for awhile now

    • @DarrylJones-jc7wq
      @DarrylJones-jc7wq 7 месяцев назад

      Makes my third shift job much less boring

    • @Charisma_sub
      @Charisma_sub 4 месяца назад

      ​@@TimothyFitch😊

    • @kh7955
      @kh7955 14 дней назад

      Yea bc Maryland is an ACC team. Not Big 10

  • @assassssasa
    @assassssasa Год назад +30

    The 1994 Southwest Conference Football Season which featured a five-way tie for first place and Rice beating Texas for the first time in 28 years

    • @lukeontheplains
      @lukeontheplains  Год назад +2

      Thought about including some of the weird bits of the conference like that, but decided to do quick hitters instead.

    • @zerof0rce
      @zerof0rce Год назад +9

      And A&M with an unbeaten season that didn't get much celebration due to a post-season ban. A real bummer, I would have liked to see how they played into the bowl picture that year.

  • @NC-youtube
    @NC-youtube Год назад +83

    Teams keep moving on the day that these videos are released just to mess with Dalukes

  • @bosserman444
    @bosserman444 Год назад +7

    I need more of these. I prefer the other group of 5 conferences or other defunct conferences, but power 5 conferences work as well.

  • @stout8807
    @stout8807 Год назад +7

    With all the realignment going on, makes ya wander if this realignment will cause SEC to become just the Souther Conference and split into the SWC and the SEC

    • @douglasdixon524
      @douglasdixon524 11 месяцев назад +1

      I've told people that this is their plan. Sixteen schools is too big. The SEC will split within a decade after Texas and Oklahomas first season. But remember, the rule is you must have twelve schools to have a conference title game. The two will split into eight each and will have to pull four more scools each. You can kind of make up your own mind on the way it will split and which schools each new conference will make offers to.

    • @alexcuevas5633
      @alexcuevas5633 3 дня назад

      Maybe the SoCon can come back to the FBS level and be the south’s premier conference

  • @owenspartz5847
    @owenspartz5847 Год назад +5

    Need that history of the SEC

    • @totallynotalpharius2283
      @totallynotalpharius2283 Год назад +3

      And of the SoCon which was the mother conference to the SEC and ACC to a degree

  • @MNMTheRealThickShady
    @MNMTheRealThickShady Год назад +5

    The legacy of the SWC lives on in the South west classic played between A&M and Arkansas every season.

    • @troybaxter
      @troybaxter Год назад

      And hopefully it continues that way next year. I want Arkansas playing A&M every year, nor Mississippi State.
      Our rivals are t.u, LSU, and Arkansas.

  • @drewlockburner
    @drewlockburner 10 месяцев назад

    Love the Minecraft music

  • @seand1011
    @seand1011 Год назад

    2:16 - 1865, not 1856

  • @likedemlg
    @likedemlg 8 месяцев назад

    Juneteenth was actually June 19th 1867 two years after the end of slavery did Texas ended it.

  • @kingjonathan7773
    @kingjonathan7773 Год назад

    Easy to hate the best 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @cavalierfan2008
    @cavalierfan2008 Год назад

    Ah, a Texas hater. SEC SEC SEC!

    • @lukeontheplains
      @lukeontheplains  Год назад +1

      I don't hate Texas. Great college in a great city with a phenomenal food scene that produces some of the finest young men and women at our country's disposal. Their sports teams are consistently competetive and have beaten my Wildcats for like six or seven years in a row in football.
      I strongly dislike their athletic boosters, which is a sentiment that most Texas fans I've spoken to also share

  • @29Texan
    @29Texan Год назад +61

    TCU and Baylor were rivals looooooong before the SWC breakup.
    That goes back to the locations of the schools... what happened in the early 90s just amplified the hate between the two.

  • @MariaScreamapova
    @MariaScreamapova Год назад +13

    Funny story, Eric Dickerson's Gold Trans Am was given to him by A&M boosters, but he changed his mind, went to SMU & kept the car, but what could A&M do?

    • @evanschmitt2830
      @evanschmitt2830 8 месяцев назад +2

      People at SMU even called it the Trans A&M 😂

  • @studiompodcastnetwork5119
    @studiompodcastnetwork5119 Год назад +5

    I think it’s hilarious that Texas is referred to as the “conference killer”, and how their deal with ESPN to create the Longhorn Network is glared upon as “selfish, egotistical, and obnoxious” by most outside of Austin, yet each and everyone one of you knows damn well, that had ESPN (the sports magnate media outlet owned by Disney) came to your Alma matter or favorite college athletic program and offered them the same deal, a deal to make a new sports network dedicated entirely to your college’s athletics, no other athletic program would pass on the opportunity. Each and every one of those other universities would agree to that same deal in a heartbeat.

  • @troyturner173
    @troyturner173 Год назад +28

    I lived in AR from 76-91, so I can vouch for much of what you say-but you mentioned that the Hogs never had a major scandal. True, but that doesn't mean that they were "clean"-being the only DI school in the state, boosters knew where the line was; and Frank Broyles made SURE they knew. Frank also knew where the bodies were buried with the Texas schools-so he was able to send word down that if any school tried to drop the dime on the Hogs, he wouldn't hesitate to retaliate

    • @lukeontheplains
      @lukeontheplains  Год назад +10

      Every Southwest school has skeletons in their closet. Arkansas just didn't have a *major* scandal.

    • @brycelandon6387
      @brycelandon6387 Год назад +5

      Arkansas, Baylor, and Rice were the only schools not to get hit with NCAA sanctions. The other six were all on probation all at the same time - which, in those days, meant being banned from TV. With most the conference banned from TV, recruits couldn't watch the games and went elsewhere. This led to the decline of the SWC and its breakup when its bigger members wanted more TV exposure.

    • @michaelmerck7576
      @michaelmerck7576 Год назад

      Arkansas never had the resources to cheat plus Frank Broyles had too much integrity to do so

    • @troyturner173
      @troyturner173 Год назад +4

      @@michaelmerck7576 Arkansas had/has the resources to cheat (Walmart, Tyson Chicken, Hunt Trucking-etc)-but you're partially correct. Frank was able to rein in the boosters JUST ENOUGH in order not to have the Hogs get dinged. It drove the Texas schools nuts that the Hogs were "clean"-but publicly they were...
      I say this not because I have an ax to grind-but I saw stuff that raised my brow a time or two...

    • @AstroBuoyant
      @AstroBuoyant 2 месяца назад +1

      Went to church with the Broiles’ kids in Fayetteville in the 60s … & Frank Broiles would have pushed the envelope, like the others.

  • @ltownvidz
    @ltownvidz Год назад +24

    Ive always wanted to watch a documentary on the history of college football and you’ve basically done that with this series, thank you sir

  • @silentage8
    @silentage8 Год назад +20

    Hey man, I love these documentaries. I love the care and attention you put into each in topic you cover.
    In that respect, could you please do a doc on the Sun Belt Conference? They don't have much information or exposure in the D1 sphere as others do from what I can tell

    • @codycampbell2232
      @codycampbell2232 Год назад

      I would love that as well. Arkansas State is right down the road from my house. But I don't know anything about the conference itself

  • @lukeontheplains
    @lukeontheplains  Год назад +11

    I need to clarify some things, since it's become apparent that I didn't word it distinctly enough, and that's on me as the video maker. Sorry!
    SMU didn't buy Eric Dickerson the gold Trans am. It's well known that was a gift from Texas A&M to entice him to play for the Aggies. My intentions were to make it known that a high schooler with a Trans Am probably wasn't receiving a nonzero amount of dollars to play for a school, and that whoever he ended up playing for had dropped him a bag. Now that I'm reading some comments, the way I word it makes it seem like SMU gave him the car. That's not true. They gave him more money than the car was worth, apparently.
    I also cut out a part in my script where I mention that Phillips University doesn't exist anymore. After a brief foray overseas with a satellite branch in Japan, the college lost accreditization and filed for bankruptcy. Kind of a neat little nugget there, unless you worked for Phillips U.
    Also CJK5H.
    I've also been made aware that I've been advertised on Reddit. Not sure how I feel about that, but welcome anyway. Try not to start any flame wars in my comments and it'll all be cool with me! As always be sure to point out any times I word something wrong or timelines get mixed up. I go through a ton of articles and videos for this and organizing it all can be a pain sometimes, so the extra clarification and help is always appreciated!

    • @kurtisokc
      @kurtisokc Год назад

      As a Phillips alumni I appreciate your mention of our brief stint in the conference. One minor correction: it was never called Phillips College. Also, I had never before heard that Phillips had lost its accreditation before filing bankruptcy. What was your source for this?

  • @GoodnessandTruth
    @GoodnessandTruth Год назад +14

    That UH logo at the beginning killed me.

  • @andrewvorst862
    @andrewvorst862 Год назад +11

    Didn’t Dickerson say he got his gold Trans-Am from the A&M boosters in his memoir?

    • @americasevilgenius
      @americasevilgenius Год назад +4

      The "Trans A&M"!

    • @Johnbones23
      @Johnbones23 Год назад

      Saw that on the SMU 30for30 Pony Express

    • @qxz9p
      @qxz9p Год назад +2

      He did. A&M bought Dickerson the Trans AM and I don’t understand why people think SMU bought it for him. A&M was by far the most egregious in the SWC for paying players.

  • @justinress2782
    @justinress2782 Год назад +6

    10:00 Fun fact.
    SMU didn’t pay for the Gold Trans Am.
    Texas A&M did.

  • @Collegefootballproductions
    @Collegefootballproductions Год назад +6

    Even now i still forget that Houston ucf Cincinnati and byu are in the big 12 and have them in their old conferences in the cfb mobile game😂

  • @mpsgt2004
    @mpsgt2004 Год назад +7

    Baylor and TCU rivalry goes back to the early 1900’s when they both resided in Waco

  • @impalaman9707
    @impalaman9707 Год назад +2

    They should have been called the "All-Texas conference" with Arkansas as an outlier. The REAL Southwest conference is what's coming to the Big 12 once Utah, Arizona, and Colorado schools join, regionally-speaking. Oh wait---there's Iowa State, West Virginia, Cincy, UCF. Boy--I wished regions still meant things to people!!

    • @FireboltPrime
      @FireboltPrime Месяц назад

      You gotta remember that throughout most of the 20th century hardly anyone lived in the actual geographical southwest of the United States
      Texas and its population centers *were* the southwestern corner of the US population during the founding of the conference in 1915

    • @impalaman9707
      @impalaman9707 Месяц назад

      @@FireboltPrime Probably the most glaring example to this day is New Mexico. They NEVER had a population big enough to have Division 1A sports. They remain the same cultural backwater they were in 1915

  • @rangersking6699
    @rangersking6699 Год назад +5

    Welp Smu just barely didn’t get into the ACC in time to make this initial map lol

    • @lukeontheplains
      @lukeontheplains  Год назад +1

      I'm legit kind of scared of the pattern at this point. Like I need to stop talking about modern teams

    • @rangersking6699
      @rangersking6699 Год назад +1

      @@lukeontheplainsyou can make it up to us when you do the ACC video 😉😉😉

  • @JLT071986
    @JLT071986 Год назад +4

    Late 80s early 90s, The SWC was (very much) a shell of it's former self. Going 2-9 in it's last Cotton Bowl (Conf. Tie-in) appearances. While also ending with *7 straight* losses....
    1995. Cotton Bowl (USC) 55 (Texas Tech) 14
    1994. Cotton Bowl (Notre Dame) 24 (Texas A&M) 21
    1993. Cotton Bowl (Notre Dame) 28 (Texas A&M) 3
    1992. Cotton Bowl (Florida St) 10 (Texas A&M) 3
    1991. Cotton Bowl (Miami) 46 (Texas) 3
    1990. Cotton Bowl (Tennessee) 31 (Arkansas) 27
    1989. Cotton Bowl (UCLA) 17 (Arkansas) 3....
    The SWC conference produced great "National Championship" teams and was (unique) in it's own right..because 8 of the 9 teams resided in Texas, So the atmosphere of seeing where your local football star was going to comment to and winning against your (in state) rival, which usually ended with getting the SWC Crown and Cotton Bowl bid..Truly gave *one* bragging rights throughout the state and proclaiming your school as "State Champs" was a very unique thing on the college level, at that time..The SEC flourishing still today deserves 👏....
    The SWC tho, lasting as long as it did, with the way it was structured was impressive because it really couldn't happen work today and it will never be like that again. The Big 12 complimented the former SWC & former Big 8 really well..But money 💰 🤑 💸 is ruining regional rivalries and long traditions 😢.

  • @andrewdubose9968
    @andrewdubose9968 11 месяцев назад +3

    The same NCAA who gave SMU the death penalty has done infinitely more damage to “the sanctity of collegiate athletics” in the past few years than SMU could have in several lifetimes.
    But now that SMU is going to the ACC and buying players is fair game, things are about to get real good.

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 11 месяцев назад +2

    SMU football's death penalty messed everyone's money up and that was all the impetus that outlier Arkansas needed to get off that sinking ship. With the way TV contracts were looking back then, having only the Lone Star State represented wouldn't be enough.

  • @Kavanaugh_Kohls
    @Kavanaugh_Kohls Год назад +7

    I've really enjoyed your videos since finding your channel, and it's clear that you're developing your skills and style each upload. Keep it up!

  • @MetalGod999
    @MetalGod999 Год назад +5

    Awesome video, Lucas! I loved your video about the Southwest Conference. It was everything I hoped it would be, informative and educational -- AND very entertaining, too! You have an excellent sense of humor, buddy! Keep up the great work!

  • @dustinwood7999
    @dustinwood7999 Год назад +4

    Texas’ conception was in 1836, where it stood as a lone nation for 9 years until Polk annexed Texas in 1845 as a state into the Union.

    • @johnbledsoe3183
      @johnbledsoe3183 11 месяцев назад +1

      Texas was not annexed. Texas joined the US via treaty. There's a difference.

  • @NeverlandSystemAngel
    @NeverlandSystemAngel 11 месяцев назад +1

    Arkansas won a "declared" title? By BEATING the team that was contending for it?! Are you fucking kidding?! They EARNED that title.
    I'm not even an Arkansas fan, but FFS... if you BEAT the team that is next in line to be champion, you don't get "declared" the national title, you OUTRIGHT EARNED IT!

  • @miketemple7686
    @miketemple7686 11 месяцев назад +2

    You can tell this dude is a millennial. He feels the need to throw race into almost all his videos.

  • @lindseyhodges5287
    @lindseyhodges5287 Год назад +5

    Was it proven Anne Richards didn’t push to include Baylor? Houston would have made way more sense, especially in that era…

    • @lukeontheplains
      @lukeontheplains  Год назад +2

      I looked at three different articles about Baylor being added over Houston and the reasonings for it. Only one mentioned Richards, and it made a point to note that Richards didn't really care because she was busy with other legislature things. So not only did she have no impact at all in the decision, she likely wouldn't have even been much of a factor if she was involved in those convos. Some people just need to point fingers though

    • @juandanielavila2622
      @juandanielavila2622 Год назад +1

      @@lukeontheplainsgreat video. However Baylor securing their spot in the SWC didn’t negate UH their spot, UH never had a spot. UH had fallen into extremely hard times in both football and basketball plus they were never really acceptable to UT and A&M anyways.

    • @GoodnessandTruth
      @GoodnessandTruth Год назад +9

      I'm a UH fan. There were three main reasons we didn't get in. The first and most important want instability and poor university leadership. We had an interim president who fumbled the bag in just about every regard athletically. Second, we didn't have the political connections. Third, we were still recovering from penalties from recruiting violations.
      In the most recent round of realignment now Houston has phenomenal leadership in President Khator, political connections that fought for Houston to be added to the Big 12, and no penalties or violations thank God.

    • @BigJack512
      @BigJack512 Год назад +5

      @@GoodnessandTruthYou’re absolutely right. We can blame politics and politicians, but the truth is that after Andre Ware and David Klingler years (and 3 year mini death penalty) our once glorious football program fell into a unrecoverable state of disrepair and the university administration was utterly inept politically and operationally. Dr Khator has turned everything around at UH across the board athletically and academically. She will someday have her own statue next to Coach Yeoman on the Plaza.

    • @jamescruz9866
      @jamescruz9866 Год назад

      @@GoodnessandTruthUH fan here too. I just want to ask, do you think Holgerson is the right coach for this program? I’m having doubts. I feel he’s too inconsistent. He’s getting paid a ton of money too. The loss against Rice was just so bad (even though we came back to tie it and force OT). Now we’re going to play some real teams and I just can’t help but feel we are going to get destroyed.

  • @devilfrawg4953
    @devilfrawg4953 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bullock was a Tech (undergrad) AND Baylor Law grad. Bullock and Richards were absolutely involved in getting Baylor in the Big 12 over UH.

  • @commandermaze6334
    @commandermaze6334 Год назад +16

    Go Coogs! As a recent grad, definitely agree that that’s not something we ever forgot

    • @grocerylist
      @grocerylist 11 месяцев назад +2

      I'm looking forward to tu's continuing decline once they enter the SEC. They may be making more money but they'll very rarely, if ever, make a push for another national championship.

  • @MountainDewComacho494
    @MountainDewComacho494 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great video! Love your channel. Only a couple issues. In your statement about dunking being unsportsmanlike, there was indeed an era when dunking was considered unsportsmanlike. However it was not in the mid 80s during the reign of Phi-Slamma-Jamma. On your comment about Eric Dickerson’s car, that car came from Texas A&M boosters and was never returned after he went to SMU.

  • @austin2673
    @austin2673 Год назад +4

    Go hogs

  • @jamespyle777
    @jamespyle777 Год назад +4

    Kinda strange how the Southwest Classic between Arkansas and Texas A&M was never mentioned.

    • @troybaxter
      @troybaxter Год назад +2

      I hope the SEC preserves this rivalry as an annual rivalry.

    • @troyturner173
      @troyturner173 Год назад +1

      When that was established, the Hogs and A&M were in different conferences-SEC and Big XII-their SWC connection has zero to do with the current game. Now that they're both in the SEC, I believe that TCU should be the new opponent at JerryWorld

  • @terranceramirez4816
    @terranceramirez4816 Год назад +3

    I’d love to see a video of the history of the Big West football conference. In many ways it was the precursor to what the WAC became post the MWC splitoff, and yet it is basically unknown today.

  • @damnmarkey
    @damnmarkey Год назад +2

    4:54 Arkansas stayed in SWC till after 1991-92 season not 1989

  • @donnyhunt6370
    @donnyhunt6370 Год назад +4

    “Texas is a conference killer”.
    1989 Arkansas leaves SWC, Texas stays
    2010: Nebraska and Colorado leave Big XII, Texas stays
    2011: A&M and Mizzou leave Big XII, Texas stays. Hmmmmm
    And then when Texas and OU leave together everybody blames Texas and ignores the fact that OU left too. No hate for them.
    You also left out that A&M got hit with serious probation twice in the 80s and 90s that resulted in Bowl bans and being unable to win the conference yet point out that Texas received penalties though not nearly as serious or as often.
    And who started this trend? Arkansas.
    And whose exclusive TV deal exacerbated it? Not re Dame.
    Yet when Texas gets an exclusive TV deal decades later, people bitch. A&M turned down a chance to go in on a TV deal together, then whined when Texas got one for themselves. Typical Aggie pettiness.
    Listen, I don’t think for a minute UT is blameless or doesn’t deserve some of their bad rep, but they also make an easy scapegoat for everybody else and it’s annoying. They didn’t start this game (looking at you $EC) they just learned to play it better than most.

  • @throwback888
    @throwback888 3 месяца назад +1

    A lot of scandals in the SWC, but man, I miss it as a Texan.

  • @williamdiemert9866
    @williamdiemert9866 Год назад +2

    Death penalty for SMU kills the SWC

  • @tybrown6934
    @tybrown6934 Год назад +3

    Very good video. As an Ole Miss and SEC fan, the old Southwest Conference was a bit before my time and I’ve heard and read a lot of stories about it. I do have a question for any Arkansas fans out there out of curiosity. What was the official reason why Arkansas came to the SEC? I’ve heard rumors and stories and also have my own theories about it for a really long time but have never heard what really pushed Arkansas out or how long they had been planning to join the SEC.

    • @douglasdixon524
      @douglasdixon524 11 месяцев назад +1

      As a Hog fan since 1977, I remember there being two main reasons. Competetion in the Southwest Conference had become stagnant and Frank Broyles knew changes were coming regardless. He also wanted changes. The second is, at the time the Southeast Conference was the only conference that shared bowl game revenue between all schools in the SEC. With Alabama, Florida LSU, Georgia and others you're guaranteed money every year.

  • @jordank316
    @jordank316 Год назад +7

    Houston’s exclusions out of the big 8 was by design. UT and A&M wanted access to all the athletes from the states largest state. They’d have to fight against UH if they also joined the big 8. Baylors inclusion in the conference is absolutely crazy when you compare it to Houston’s athletic history.

  • @honeysuckle754
    @honeysuckle754 11 месяцев назад +1

    SMU was so disgusted by the collapse of the SWC that they vowed to never play any Texas (or Arkansas) team again

  • @TheNightWatcher1385
    @TheNightWatcher1385 Год назад +1

    The drama that ruined the Southwest was brought into the Big 12 and inevitably cause turmoil there too. Conference chaos is bad for football.

  • @KyleShiflet13666
    @KyleShiflet13666 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Southwest Confrence story should be a mini series especially during the 80s cause the constant backstabbing

  • @treycherie6236
    @treycherie6236 Год назад +1

    I’ve always found the NCAA’s decision to penalize SMU as an institution rather than individual coaches/administrators interesting. what if there was some kid who’s dream it was to play at SMU and he couldn’t go because there was no scholarship when there otherwise would’ve been? now he’s penalized to no fault of his own

  • @troybaxter
    @troybaxter Год назад +7

    A&M and Baylor are both older than t.u. by the way.
    Baylor is the first still active college in Texas, having formed in 1845 in Independence, TX (halfway between Brenham (home of Blue Bell Ice Cream) and College Station) as a private institution. Texas A&M was started in 1876 as Texas' first public school.

    • @devilfrawg4953
      @devilfrawg4953 6 месяцев назад

      Indeed. Baylor is the oldest private school and moved to Waco when Independence lost the county seat election to Brenham. Meanwhile, TCU moved from Waco to Fort Worth.
      So, in an alternate universe...
      1. Baylor is in Independence/Washington County (near Texas A&M's current location).
      2. TCU is in Waco (Baylor's current location)
      3. Texas A&M is in Fort Worth (TCU's current location).

    • @devilfrawg4953
      @devilfrawg4953 6 месяцев назад

      Oldest FBS schools in Texas:
      1. Baylor (1845)
      2. TCU (1873)
      3. Texas A&M (1876)
      4. Texas (1883)

  • @C4m4r0
    @C4m4r0 11 месяцев назад +1

    The funniest part about the Eric Dickerson car is that SMU didn't even buy it for him. It was A&M who bought it as a bribe for him to go if he verbally committed, they signed it over to him and then he decommitted and signed with SMU.

  • @johnbledsoe3183
    @johnbledsoe3183 11 месяцев назад +1

    The University of Houston wasn't founded until 1927 and didn't field a football team until 1946, but was on the 1915 map when the narrator discussed UT AD Bellmont inviting schools to join the new conference. Same applies to Texas Tech whose logo also was on the 1915 map, but wasn't established until 1923.

  • @GoodnessandTruth
    @GoodnessandTruth Год назад +2

    Wild. I was just watching your channel yesterday wondering if there would be a SWC one!

  • @23Kite
    @23Kite Год назад +1

    Houston was in a rut at the time the SWC fell apart. People forget that the program was really down and Baylor wasnt under any sanctions at the time.

  • @sdotsloan4809
    @sdotsloan4809 Месяц назад

    Now i feel a&m's pain these mofos have drugged us into their ego trip all while a&m is just trying to be left alone. But as usual here comes UT. Sadd😅😅😅

  • @chadwickmoore3656
    @chadwickmoore3656 Год назад +2

    Well done!
    Was hoping someone out there was working on a history of conferences, so imagine my delight to find this channel!

  • @scizorbullet8185
    @scizorbullet8185 Год назад +2

    6:11 thank you for saying the real reason they did that so tired of people lying about the intentions of that

  • @jeremyhodge6216
    @jeremyhodge6216 24 дня назад

    This was a elite conference back in the day. I'll always love The Southwest Conference 😉👌💯

  • @Proudmid00stoyotacamryowner
    @Proudmid00stoyotacamryowner Месяц назад

    If Texans really loved football they would've stopped watching the Longhorns

  • @TheNCGrant
    @TheNCGrant 2 месяца назад

    Can confirm that we Houston fans are cool with literally every other school in the state except for the cow college in Austin and the Waco sex cult

  • @scottym3233
    @scottym3233 7 месяцев назад

    arkansas was always forgotten even though they were a huge amount of success for the swc. Too bad the oklahoma schools didnt stick around.

  • @CoreyT127
    @CoreyT127 6 месяцев назад

    Arkansas played in the SWC until 1991. Not 89. Never mind you said that later on.

  • @sdotsloan4809
    @sdotsloan4809 Месяц назад

    Love ya videos brotha keep it up. My favorite part starts at 16:40 😮😮😮
    BOOMER.

  • @dennisallen-x3s
    @dennisallen-x3s 21 день назад

    dude what smu did in the 80's is literally nil it would be normal nowadays

  • @american_76-47
    @american_76-47 Месяц назад

    Major inaccuracy A&M was established as the flagship program in 1876. It still today receives the most funding for research and overall grants, and the majority of its colleges lead the state in education.

  • @leafman4428
    @leafman4428 Год назад +2

    Finally... after asking twice... it's beautiful

  • @Montfortracing
    @Montfortracing Год назад +2

    I always wondered why they were called the Southwest conference, even though it was mostly Texas schools? Unfortunately the video doesn't really get into that, but I remember when I started watching college football as a kid back in the early 90s I remember hearing about a Southwest conference, but didn't know which teams were part of it. Back then I assumed it had teams from Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, maybe Arizona and a Colorado school. It wasn't until many years later I found out it was predominantly Texas schools.

    • @lukeontheplains
      @lukeontheplains  Год назад +1

      I wondered that too while I was making the Border Conference video. Couldn't find anything on it, but my guess is that since it's mainly focused in Texas, and Texas is a Southwestern state, that they just kept the name.

    • @Montfortracing
      @Montfortracing Год назад +2

      @@lukeontheplains even though Texas is not the only state in the southwest part of our country. I'll try to see if I can find an answer.
      Nevertheless, very good video, this might be the only history of the SWC video on RUclips so far, so it's great you made one.

    • @abelreyna8781
      @abelreyna8781 Год назад +3

      The southwest in terms of population back in the 1910s and 20s was Texas. New Mexico, and Arizona had very small populations back then. The HBCU conference SWAC (Southwestern Athletic Conference) was also started around that time made up of HBCUs from Texas.

    • @Montfortracing
      @Montfortracing Год назад +1

      @@abelreyna8781 that makes sense. And some of those states like Arizona and Nevada saw population booms during the 50s and 60s, by that time the SWC was already decades old.

    • @gregsells8549
      @gregsells8549 Год назад

      Texas has always been considered a Southwestern state. Its Bell System company was Southwestern Bell, but its headquarters was in St. Louis and its territory included Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Texas except for El Paso. El Paso was served by Mountain Bell, but was switched to Southwestern Bell before the Bell System breakup, and Southwestern became a stand-alone Baby Bell. In another matter, Phillips University (in Enid, OK) no longer exists.

  • @Patrick61804
    @Patrick61804 Год назад +1

    17:20 so that’s where all the big 12 defenses go

  • @x-90
    @x-90 5 месяцев назад

    Poor Rice the one non power school

  • @justhereforthefoliage
    @justhereforthefoliage Месяц назад

    That’s why we say: “We’re Texas”

  • @JoseRuiz-jd8go
    @JoseRuiz-jd8go 7 месяцев назад

    now the sec has 4 original members of the swc

  • @Lfg117
    @Lfg117 2 месяца назад

    Know it won't happen but would love to see a similar documentary about cfb in the Border- and Western Athletic Conferences - precisely bc those conferences were home to many overlooked and/or not cared about universities and athletic progrums. East-of-El-Paso-bias in college athletics remains a 'thing' as of July '24. Thank u for these really well done, thoroughly researched documentaries.

  • @iamza.
    @iamza. Месяц назад

    UT is a public Ivy?😂😂😂😂😂

  • @AstroBuoyant
    @AstroBuoyant 2 месяца назад

    Thanks sincerely, this is an excellent, honest history of the SouthWest Conference. Lettered at Texas, grew up in Austin, Fayetteville, Arkansas & College Station. One note: Texas athletes & fans have always had great, private affection for Arkansas, A&M, Tech, etc. & always wanted to continue in some conference with these states’ historically accomplished Universities. …
    & don’t put those Horns down … cause Texas is back!

  • @joedalgarn2041
    @joedalgarn2041 Год назад +1

    Great video. Loved seeing the old footage.

  • @williamdiemert9866
    @williamdiemert9866 22 дня назад

    SMU is now the ACC

  • @dekubob
    @dekubob 8 месяцев назад

    Did the 1970s Pittsburgh Pirates steal the SW University Logo from 1916? Is there any historical photos of this logo...really interesting if so.

  • @thegamecock22
    @thegamecock22 Год назад +1

    Do the SEC next.

  • @AceManning18
    @AceManning18 2 месяца назад +1

    I always thought I was the only one nerdy enough about conferences and their history to enjoy these videos, but it seems I was wrong! These are so interesting.
    Only bad thing is they make me wish for a return to the days of regional conferences and all the rivalries that are now dead .. but hopefully, eventually, everything settles down and we can build some new, forever ones.

  • @JuanVilorio
    @JuanVilorio Месяц назад

    TU is such a diva

  • @jbj7599
    @jbj7599 Год назад +1

    Damn right its artistic freedom!

  • @OwenAlderson-pf5tk
    @OwenAlderson-pf5tk Год назад +1

    i suggested this also first coment

  • @chancemurphy2037
    @chancemurphy2037 11 месяцев назад

    Great content bro, keep up the quality and the stories and your gonna blow up! Making my way through tall your videos, just started today.

  • @christopherjustice6411
    @christopherjustice6411 Год назад +1

    Hell yeah.

  • @MariaScreamapova
    @MariaScreamapova Год назад

    Now that SMU is part of ACC the history SMU would make for very entertaining content

  • @mistervancleef
    @mistervancleef Год назад +1

    These videos are fantastic!!

  • @pageboy25
    @pageboy25 Год назад

    Arkansas was 2nd best in the SWC. Easy. WPS

  • @tennoklark
    @tennoklark 11 месяцев назад

    Didn’t Eric Dickerson say that when he went to the NFL he took a pay cut?

  • @dayray65
    @dayray65 Год назад

    Turning it off within the first 3 minutes because of all the historical inaccuracy

  • @kittycatsofamerica
    @kittycatsofamerica Год назад +1

    Very nice, son

  • @trapoganda1660
    @trapoganda1660 Год назад

    So texas and oklahoma joining the sec now was inevitable

  • @eastonbostick8215
    @eastonbostick8215 Год назад

    Dude, your conference championships is painfully wrong.

  • @jboog7848
    @jboog7848 11 месяцев назад

    🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @stevec9704
    @stevec9704 Год назад

    The more things change, the more they stay the same. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @Famijoly
    @Famijoly Год назад +2

    Explicitly calling out the University of Texas as a conference-killer is a first in a public forum, but not in the minds of many college sports fans. The two major conferences that have emerged as the strongest, namely the Big 10 and the Southeastern, have this (among other things) in common: both still have their constant core of 10 members in tact. That means there is a conference-wide strength that is unifying. That means that Texas won't be ale to pull off its political and financial power plays in the SEC like it did in the Southwest Conference and the Big 12. The film opened with a clip of Connie Alexander introducing a show on the SWC. After the death of Kern Tips, Alexander became the top play-by-play announcer on the Humble Oil and Refining Company (later Exxon) radio broadcasts of SWC football games. SWC member schools had no radio broadcasts of their own for football. Rather, the Houston-headquartered Humble (later Exxon) company arranged for the broadcasts as part of their public relations department. The oil company bought blocks of time on Saturdays in the fall on radio stations across Texas and Arkansas. Then there would be a play-by-play announcer and a "sidekick" (to give the stats, scores of other games, etc.) for each conference game and each non-conference game involving an SWC team. There was a hierarchy of announcers, like the TV networks that televise the Sunday afternoon NFL games have. For example, Kern Tips was always assigned to what was considered the best matchup for a given week and Alexander had the second spot; then when Tips died, Alexander was made the top announcer. Texas eventually threw the monkey wrench into this arrangement, believing that having their own broadcast, their games would reach more of their alumni and of their fans. The dissolution of the Exxon broadcasts in the early 1980s occurred at about the same time as SMU was headed for the death penalty and Arkansas was making waves about wanting to bolt.

    • @DMS-pq8
      @DMS-pq8 Год назад

      TV money not Texas killed the SWC and Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri and Miami's bitch leaving killed the Big 12

  • @Hund0368
    @Hund0368 Год назад +1

    W vid