I had been on Keto for a number of months and my regular clinician said I could quit taking my BP and statin meds since all my blood work looked really good and it probably wasn't necessary to be on them any more. When I went to the cardiologist, for another unrelated issue, he asked why I had stopped taking the meds and I told him that I had made changes to my diet in order to rid myself of having to deal with the heart meds (and other meds like Glipizide) because of their side effects. He said something like, "well that's all well and good, but you really need to be on a statin, regardless". Before the visit, I had done some research about statins, cholesterol etc, and asked him if a slightly elevated LDL level was necessarily a bad thing. He then cited some study (what's name I can't recall at the moment) that had really nothing to do with the efficacy of statins at all and he made it sound like that was definitive proof and reason that I should be back on the meds...case closed- end of discussion. I was a bit disappointed at that point, relented and let him write the script. I decided that I would go back on them temporarily and do a bit more research before the follow-up. Meanwhile, the new BP med he prescribed was making me dizzy, and I decided to stop taking it after 2 days. I also found a study online concerning the effects of statins on reducing CoQ10 which I learned was an essential enzyme for heart function. I printed it out and brought it with me for the follow up visit. The first thing he asked was if I was taking the meds he scripted. I said that the beta blocker was making me dizzy, so I ceased taking it and although I started back on the statin, had some serious reservations about continuing them and showed him the printout of the study I had found. He took a short glance at it, handed it back to me, dismissing it as something akin to media hype, restated his old talking points from our last visit and then re-emphasized that I needed to be back on a statin and beta blocker. I then restated that the damn beta blocker was making me dizzy. He snapped back, "Then just take half a tablet every day!" To finish it off I stated again my reservations about the statins. At this point, he took on a defensive tone, got rather "huffy", and said, "well if you don't want to take the meds, I'll just put in your record that you refused the meds...I'm a cardiologist and I take a statin!" In my own mind at that point, I decided that this guy was never going to be empathetic to the needs and concerns of his patient and let him write the scripts again. Only this time, I drove past the pharmacy, went home and threw the beta blocker and the statin in the trash and haven't looked back. Also, I had forgotten to mention that prior to doing Keto, I actually had a heart attack while I was on a statin.
I have been on keto now for two yrs and have quit taking my meds because I chose diet and exercise over drug use. I have also done research through RUclips conferences with various Dr’s and have learned a lot. I too have had similar talk with my Dr., who is is Physician Assistant. I am was a diabetic and stopped my Metformin, Valsartan and other meds. I check my bs (blood sugar) every morning and watch what I eat and exercise. After losing over 42 lb on keto I talked to him and told him I was on keto and was aiming at getting my A12 down to 5.8.. I am at 6.3 and still have a way to go.. bottom line I also had a conversation with him and he put into my records that I refused to take my statins. I asked him about a blood test that would show my ldl true levels and he said he could order it but couldn’t read it. Lol. I have never had heart problems but that is a history in family but, I truly believe that diet, exercise and knowledge goes farther than those statin. Dr. Nadi Aldi is a good one to watch too.. Good luck 👍 stay healthy and off statins.
@@dianelarpenteur637 Order your own blood work! I go through Life Extension Foundation. They’ll do a post phone call with you to go over every aspect of the results. They then make supplemental recommendations, but NEVER push anything to be purchased! They are a top notch organization! ❤️🍀
My opinion is that you should change doctors. He isn't the only one around. I changed mine after she kept hounding me about statins, and "threatened" to put a note in my file about me refusing to take statins. I didn't argue with her, but got up and left, never to return. I changed doctor's in the parking lot sitting in my car....never saw her again. There seems to be a financial incentive for so many doctors to push statins. I've heard a few comments to the effect that doctors are compensated by the drug companies but I can't state that for a fact. The bottom line is I was on a statin for over 30 years during my time in the military. I was given statins for high cholesterol and it's had devastating effects on my health ever since. I retired and joined another medical group outside of the industrial military medical complex and I stopped taking them. But that was not before I started having problems with fatty liver, beginning stages of erectile dysfunction, and bad knees that I attributed to getting old. Once I stopped taking statins, I feel a tremendous difference. My insulin sensitivity is coming back and my A1C dropped from a 7.2 down to a manageable 5.1. Of course I gave up sugar and other things that contributed to my metabolic deficiency. My HDL has increased and my triglycerides have decreased. I'm still being given static about my LDL being higher but in my opinion that's not a bad thing. Don't let doctors talk you into doing a bad thing always get a second opinion.
I hear it over and over again from my patients... I'm a PT , Clients have no idea why they are doing anything... Physicians are supposed to be on our side, not the side of big Pharma... WTF... It makes more logical sense to me to follow the science with your eyes wide open, and to not follow the medicine with blinders on. Good for you.
Good for you. My doctor got so angry he walked out of the room. I told him I am not interested in a thing Big Pharma tells you, nor in pills to cover up symptoms, I want to know the root cause of the problem physiologically and work on that. Didnt like hearing that one bit. He said you don't need a doctor then, I said yes I do, one that understands nutrition and is more interested in cures then treatment.
I first came across Dr. Paul Mason in late December 2020, I watched one of his lectures and by March 2021 I had reversed by Type 2 Diabetes, come off my statins and Metformin that I had been taking for years, and reduced my daily fasting blood levels from 7.4 mmol to 4.2 mmol, as I type this in May 2021 I have now lost nearly 4 stone in weight (56 lbs / 25.4 kg) following a keto diet, and am fitter and healthier at 52 than I was in my 30 somethings, who knows what the future holds, but I owe the chance of a normal life again to Dr.Paul Mason and avidly watch everything this wonderful physician puts out into the public domain, I just hope GP's and the NHS here in the UK start to catch up with the science because a lot of lives could be saved and massive healthcare costs reduced.
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Fortunately I have already had that conversation with my GP. You know the one that goes, "Your cholesterol is higher than we'd like. We need you to take statins." "I am not going to." "But you are at greater risk of dying". "I am sorry but I am not going to, and we all have to die. I believe the side effects are dreadful and I am not going to take them." "But they will prevent your dying before you might otherwise." "What are the numbers? Can you tell me it is going to give me years or just a few days?" "Well the numbers to treat are.......I can't find it just now." "If you can tell me that I will live years longer and without nasty side effects then I might consider it, but you cannot. The evidence for them being effective in post menopausal women is not there and I am not going to take them. I already have bad enough joint pain, so thanks, but no thanks. I am not going to take them."
I had this same conversation with the doctor. She was clueless, particularly about the effects of these drugs on postmenopausal women. She said it was due to genetics but couldn't say a word when I told her no issues run in the family.
Geez Louise! This is almost word-for-word the conversation I had with my doctor 2 months ago! Are they all reading from the same script? My answer to "But you are at a greater risk of dying. A statin will keep you from dying. Do you want to die?" was "I thought my chances of dying were 100% from when I was a fertilized egg. Are you saying you've now got something that confers immortality?!?!"
Why don't you just read the NG238 patient decision aid instead of believing all these cranks and quacks? Your doctor was trying to help you live a longer and healthier life.
I was put on statins some years ago. They dramatically affected my mental state. I would lose my temper for no reason and on one occasion wound up throwing furniture down the stairs. Also at my annual health MOT the blood test always came back as close to diabetic. Went to see another doctor and he looked at my cholesterol levels and said why the hell are you on statins you don't need them. Funnily enough since coming off statins I no longer show up in blood tests as near diabetic but the nurse who did the MOT pre covid would always say I should be on statins. It was like a mantra with no thought or reason. Needless to say I would never take statins again.
I had an abusive boss once and I still maintain it was due to statins... he also was crazy forgetful. I think statins are destroying the country. USSC decision you think is crazy? I wonder how many of them are on statins.
Doc/nurses would easily be replaced by AI since they all think like bots anyway. Insurance runs and ruins everything anyway. Primary Care Docs are obsolete.
Good concise delivery. Totally understandable with plenty of evidence to back up every word. Thank you. This is going to be one I send to all my friends.
A few days ago, a study from the U.K. made headlines around the world saying that vegetarians had healthier biomarkers than those who included meat in their diet. Curious, I read one of these articles on the study and found out that total cholesterol and LDL were lower (presumed to be a good thing), but HDL was also lower and triglycerides were higher. After seeing Dr. Mason's video on what what high LDL means in those who follow a keto or low carb diet, I thought: hmmm.... those biomarkers don't look so flash after all.
My insurance company is starting to pressure me to take statins because they’re not seeing that I have prescriptions for them. I might eventually have to get my doctor to prescribe the cheapest statin available so I can buy and discard it...
You do what you need to do to take care of yourself. The system that's prescribing them is making a fortune off of it, so if you were to "fudge"a little more power to you!
there had been some keto conventions where specific health insurance companies attended recognising the importance of this diet and how it may improve outcomes not only for the patient but the insurance industry itself. Also it depends on what markers the insurance company uses. If for example you have elevated LDL levels and they use that as a reason you could potentially follow the 'feldman protocol' named after David Feldman who is one of the people digging into the science and actions of LDL in particular. The protocol will generally lower LDL in the short term, just long enough to fool a blood test. It is partially based on the idea that LDL goes down with weight GAIN and up during weight LOSS.
Wow, such quality content from you Dr Mason, highly appreciated, keep up the great job you're doing. Im a doctor my self and generally I consider the docs population to be of a relatively low level of intelligence and/or the ability to question what they're taught, rather they need authority/guidelines they can follow, but hey if that's what they were taught in medical school by their professors and if that's THE science and the only true science why would they dig and try to contradict that, when they're busy people to begin with.
I blame being on Simvastatin and then Atorvastatin for years for giving me insulin resistance, obesity and diabetes. I have stopped all meds except Levothyroxine and Bisoprolol and I'm slowly losing weight on a ketogenic-fasting diet and my health is much improved.
Well said; excellent presentation by Dr. Mason, as usual. On _peer review_ I think the expectations are misplaced. Meaning the system is not used to confirm the viability of scientific findings but, rather, to maintain the _status quo_ by eschewing controversial or disruptive evidence.
My parents own a house for elderly care whose patients consist of dementia and amputees, and I would come back every year for a month (military leave) to help out. Initially there were six patients: two of whom were the amputees and the four had dementia; all of the four were prescribed statins by there doctors. I noticed while I was there one of the males on statins became increasingly aggressive and his temper was getting shorter by the day. He was 6'5 and 300lbs and since we were feeding him healthy foods the swelling in his legs went down and became increasingly mobile. Me and my brother had to watch him through the night to make sure he didn't hurt anyone. The other two couldn't form words anymore, and the last one had their teeth falling out and had the skin of a drug user. I departed after my leave ended and six months later I get a call from my mom and she tells me that three of the dementia patients had died and the one whose teeth were falling out is not long for this world. I talked to the two amputees on face time and they looked well.
Have been on a keto diet lost stone and !/2 just been in for carotid artery surgery all successful main problem now blood pressure far to low 70/30 this after struggling for 15 years to get it down, GP has stoped my three blood pressure tablets for7 days and now constantly recording 140/60 i am amazed ,next thing to look at is statins,changing my diet was the best thing i have ever done I am 72 years old and feel like i am starting to come out from a long illness
Fascinating! As a retired RN, I wonder how statins, which appear to increase the risk of type 2 diabetes -which increases the risk of heart disease) could ever be championed!
Basic chemistry should tell you that poly un-saturated fat is unstable due to double covalent bond and prone to oxidation!. Clearly, poly-unsaturated fat is more than likely to increase oxidative stress in cells. Saturated fat has single covalent bond and therefore stable as it cannot undergo any chemical reaction. How is it possible for anyone to accept that poly-unsaturated fat is better than saturated fat?. This is beyond me.
"Saturated fat has single covalent bond and therefore stable as it cannot undergo any chemical reaction." The above sentence, interpreted literally, is obviously false. Digestion is a chemical reaction, and saturated fat is obviously digested. Perhaps you meant to say that saturated fat does not oxidize the way unsaturated fat does.
Interesting and informative for a lay person. I’m 70, fit & healthy. Having lost 19lbs on a low carb/fasting diet, my LDL has risen. I have a high HDL and low TG but my GP is pushing me towards statins. I’m going to ask him to read the papers you’ve cited. Doctors rely on evidence-based medicine, so if he reads them, maybe it’ll change his mind.
Tell him you don't want diabetes type 2 - which statins can increase the chance of (even says so in the package insert) or muscle wastage (again, this is what statins can affect).
Same here, my doctor wanted me to start on statins as my total cholesterol was high, HDH high, TG Low. I said no, first I want a calcium score/angiogram test which showed all arteries clear and normal, 0 calcium score. He still wanted me to start on statins, I said no.
I have taken statins for 35 years. Now have Coronary Artery Calcium score of 1543 yet cardiologist wants me to increase statins. Statins are in the rubbish bin along with Carmens Muesli.
It is the dietary fructose and high Insulin which are causing atherosclerosis. Actually, there are severall steps in the progression of atherosclerosis. Only one of them is connectetd to LDL. All of them are connected to either high insulin/insulin resistance or dietary fructose or both. (Well and guess what causes high insulin/insulin resistance in the first place? Sugar/fructose!)
@@btudrus Thanks for the comment. I have only found out about fructose in the last month. 35 years late and 54 years after the nonsense I was taught in physiology and biochemistry at University.
We must have gone to the same University! Same message which silly me believed. Been low card for 90 days now - can walk for kms no angina - lost 15 kg got lots of energy. Go for it you will be amazed at the results and you may find a renewed enthusiasm for what you did learn in university - how to analyze data and not be bothered by big molecules.
Unfortunately most doctors I talked to have recommended statins without being able to explain the context in an understandable way, mealy referring to "many very costly studies". On the other hand my liver has served me unbelievably well during my 63 years of life despite the fact that I during the first 55 of those years ate huge amounts of sugar and carbohydrates and in the process collected significant amount of excessive fat tissue. Now after loosing most of the excessive weight I have problems to accept these doctors claim that my liver suddenly wants to murder me through cholesterol-poisoning. I just don't buy it!
In 2020, at 57, I went keto and within 8 months lost 50 lbs, got off all meds, and my joint pain vanished. When I go for my annual physical, the doc says “I recommend a statin.” I politely decline and fret that my doc, like sooo many others, still believe the absolute shit “science” of the manufacturers. Then I do a hundred pushups in his office. He hates that.
I will never take another statin never again in my life, I could care less what a Doctor tells me. When I use to complain about my joints, blood sugars, and all sorts of markers being out of whack, I would tell them this and they would look at me crazy so I now unfortunately look at them crazy. By the way my weight use to be 250 lbs borderline diabetic with normal cholesterol and I'm now a 175 lbs, insulin sensitive, low triglycerides, and high HDL. My high LDL though is the only marker that's seem to be the issue and they try to throw the kitchen sink at that problem
It’s nearly impossible to get through my cardio and PCP doctors head that I know they read NOTHING and know NOTHING about nutrition. Sad but I’m keeping them in my healthcare ONLY for emergencies and NOT for maintenance. I’m off all 17 Rx because of Keto & intermittent fasting and they have expressed their negative attitudes. So be it. They openly show their will to be cognitive dissidents! So sad -all that education gone to waste and being OWNED by bug Harma. ( spelling intended)
PHC can take *THE NEXT STEP IN EFFECTIVENESS* by first adding foods rather than taking bad foods away✅. Like a pound of ground meat and enough salt. Then eliminating the bad foods becomes much easier for multiple reasons.
the last 2 references highlight the magnitude of diabetes on the cardiovascular mortality, which is very high The seven-year incidence rates of myocardial infarction in nondiabetic subjects with and without prior myocardial infarction at base line were 18.8 percent and 3.5 percent, respectively (P
The other thing that seems to have been forgotten is the statin that was withdrawn from the market because so many were literally dying within 48hrs of starting them. (They caused massive sudden protein breakdown which overwhelms the kidneys and causes them to fail).
You don't have to "so your own research". Ask for the study. There are sections for who funded the study as well as potential conflicts of interest in the researcher(s). Just read it.
Oct 12, 2021 Statin Use Is Associated with Excess Risk for Diabetes Progression Paul S. Mueller, MD, MPH, FACP, reviewing Mansi IA et al. JAMA Intern Med 2021 Oct 4
I was put on statins in 2018 & they rapidly reduced my cholesterol. However I came off them after 6 months due to side effects. My GP suggested a different type but I declined. Still statin use gets mentioned to me, but knowing what I know now I would never take them again in any circumstance. I also now learn that a higher LDL can actually be beneficial over age 60 which I am. Sadly it all seems to be about the bottom line & poorly informed healthcare professionals. I cut saturated fat right down but it made no difference to my cholesterol or weight so now I’m not going to stress about everything being low sat fat & ignore so called healthy eating guidelines. Low carb seems to be the way forward & cut out ultra processed food.
I am 82. I am active, currently a very low carb diet. I am active and about 15 pounds heavier that I would like. My doctor put me on statins. Over time my A1c went up to 5.7. I said I wanted to get off statins as my blood numbers are exceptionally good but my A1c worries me as my mom was diabetic. She sent me to the cardiologist who said I should stay on statins. Why, I asked? I have no prior heart attacks, no indicators of heart disease. He said my age is a risk factor that that is sufficient a risk factor to warrant statins. I am still debating with myself about whether to stop taking them.
Keto for seventeen years here..I got a call yesterday on my blood results with the only important bits being the high ldl. I told the caller twice one word;"No." They act like somehow the injections are different. She did not even mention my partial size results cause the only important thing is the ldl number. I got a calcium score done and it was 7 with less than a 10% chance of me having a corrinairy event..But I still should take a statin,doppler results,still need a statin. Why did I even bother to do all this stuff as both Dr's have already decided I need a statin. I'm never taking those horrible drugs again and look forward to the never ending statin lectures.🙄
Write to FDA if take/took statin and let them know. maybe write to who makes the Dr try to write statins(is that government or a Dr society ?) and say will sue for causing so much pain.
Doctors, who are generalists, refer patients to various specialists when the doctor knows the specialist will know more about a condition. Doctors are not specialists in nutrition, so why don’t they refer patients to dieticians when a patient needs specialist dietary advice?
Actually the dietitians are usually the problem. Their schooling is plant based in origin and they are clueless about the need for saturated fats. The Seventh Day Adventist campaign to make the world vegan to promote the Second Coming of Christ is alive and well. Misinformation is sold by media as truth, the truth is called misinformation and censored. The world has gone mad.
I just got my worst medical test result ever: 337 CAC score (which one med website claims gives my 61-yr old body the arteries of an 83-yr old). I have busted my butt for 40 yrs to be healthy (regular exercise and following recommended diets). In 1980, I drank the koolaide and became a vegan for 34 yrs. Two yrs ago, I had an epiphany and went keto/carnivore. Lost 30 lbs and never felt better/stronger. It brought me back to my football weight in 1977. My thinking/memory are much improved. Blood pressure has gone way down. My HDL/triglyceride ratio is excellent (0.68). But my LDL is 228 (2x what it was 2 yrs ago). My doc (who totally gets it regarding keto, dietary fat, cholesterol, etc.) has prescribed baby aspirin and Crestor statin after seeing my CAC score, and cautions against strenuous exercise. In addition, a keto friend advises I get off saturated fats & high cholesterol foods (meat, eggs). I am stumped. Do I resist taking Crestor statin? Do I get off carnivore and eggs and saturated fat to reduce cholesterol? Do I take magnesium, K2, D3, and IP-6 to fight arterial calcification? Do I assume I will always have a high CAC score and am fated to die soon from heart disease? I now believe - with great resentment - that vegetarian and low-fat crusaders sold me a bill of goods that I bought hook, line, and sinker. Forty years of working hard to be healthy has left me with 83-year old arteries because the extremely high carb/sugar load I was consuming for 34 years caused severe damage to my arteries. How ironic.
K2 and magnesium put the calcium where it is supposed to go in your bones. I am following a D3, K2 and magnesium to make my bones stronger, remove calcium deposits from my arteries etc. carry on with your low carb way of eating and increase your levels of k2 etc. I have read that people have benefited from this woe and the extra supplements but see your doctor.
Make sure you stay away from calcium carbonate which can be added to foods but contributes to calcification as it is a more difficult form of calcium to deal with. I wouldn’t change your current keto diet, but rather take the k2, magnesium, and d3. Be aware of the quality of the animal foods as that relates to omega 3/6 balance. Must be pasture raised. Continue to research arterial plaque removal through natural or healthier means. There is another test you can do to check arterial plaque levels-it’s called a “Safe echo Cimt test”. It’s done on the Carotid arteries of the neck. Also, there is a quick artery cleansing procedure done by some naturopaths and alternative health clinics where they use an IV to put phosphatidylcholine directly into the bloodstream. It’s said to clear the plaque right out because it breaks down the deposits. It’s been done in Switzerland for 50 years. Inquire at local alternative health clinic or naturopath. I am currently looking into the taking of phosphatidylcholine as supplement for this purpose though it will not be as fast as the IV method. A couple comments down, someone claims to have been on statins for 35 years and their CAC is over 1500. I have no idea how they are alive still.
Your body took a long time to get into bad health. The longer you are on carnivore the better your markers will be. Research David Diamond, Dave Feldman. High LDL is not a problem. Dave Feldman is doing a study on N lean mass hyper responders whose LDL is high. Dr Anthony Chaffee and Dr Shawn Baker podcast are also excellent as is Dr Baker's regular channel. Keep up with carnivore.
Where are the places where people live longest ??? The Mediterranean, Japan and a few other places .... what do they they eat ?? Do the drug manufacturers have most to lose when you don't use their drugs?? How far will they go to keep market share? What effect does Money have on the advise we receive ? Think big tobacco, the Sugar industry, Oxycotin, HIV sufferers!
What are statins supposed to do? Magically make fat you eat disappear? I eat fat, a lot of fat, it makes cholesterol so, what happens if I take the statins? This has yet to make sence. Cholesterol makes bile which is supposed to digest the fat I eat. So, what happens to the fat if I'm taking statins?
Medicine is focused on fixing broken things. A massive effort needs to be put into preventive medicine so that nutrition health advice is much sharper and better disseminated. I note that my octogenarian mother has stopped eating apple skin, most sources of fiber and seeds because a doctor told her it would help her diviculitus. Reading what can be found on the web - be it the NHS or published papers - all reject this idea as not correlated with outcome by trials or other studies.
In fact, the opposite is true. She should eat more fibre. My diverticulosis has disappeared with a plant-based diet (and I have the colonoscopy results to prove it). Tell her to eat more greens and chew them well.
Its great you answered the question on trans-fats in those 1970s studies as I have had that put to me by vegans in the past and that their 'mendelian' studies prove saturated fat is bad otherwise. I would avoid using the term 'risk' for associational studies though, none of that research could definitely define risk of x outcome but only association. We do not want to fall into the same false dogma the vegan doctors use by throwing the laden word risk on everything we dislike.
Oh man my wife has lost the weight she tried to lose for a decade without even trying just eating my high fat meat based keto food at night. She’s not in ketosis and still eats a fair amount of carbs during the day. She used to try so hard walking miles and eating almost nothing (but high carb low fat). She’s so mad that I was right lol. It’s all about insulin. Until you lower that your fat cells cannot release their contents.
I’ve reviewed numerous studies showing fats, specifically saturated fats, saturating our cells causing insulin to be turned away from our cells, causing glucose to stay in our blood system. This begins a path towards diabetes two. The reason a Keto diet helps alleviate diabetes two, is because significantly reducing carbohydrates reduces the need for insulin to do its function. But this does not alleviate the problem. Because your cells are still loaded with fat. As soon as you eat carbohydrates you are back to your path toward diabetes two. The problem with most of all Keto diets is that they significantly reduce fiber, which the micro biome in your gut requires for true health.
@@DbeeSapphire it depends on what line of thought they follow. Dr Eric Berg recommends basically platefuls of salad and cruciferous vegetables. But it’s worth noting that there are some persons on all animal foods diets with no intestinal difficulties. And the Masai tribe of Africa lived entirely on animal foods for untold generations.
I am so saddened that the PHC has no collaboration with registered dietitians. Where is the dialogue between medics and dietitians, who are all able read the same research papers? I well remember my attempts at in Practice training for GPs and PNs when the evidence departed from the ‘party line’. Whatever happened to ‘evidence based medicine’. I,m long retired ( come from way back in the Yudkin era ) and now find there are enlightened medics claiming the field, but please please involve and collaborate with your dietetic colleagues. I,ve given up hoping that nutrition students and medics will study nutrition modules together. But why not??
0:00: 🩺 Doctors often give bad nutritional advice due to lack of training and pressure to follow dietary guidelines. 5:33: 🔍 The video highlights the issue of eminence-based medicine and the misinformation doctors receive, leading to misleading health guidelines and recommendations. 10:53: ✅ The orthodox view on dietary fat is being challenged, as studies show that increasing polyunsaturated fats and reducing saturated fats can increase the risk of death and that individuals with higher LDL levels tend to live longer. 16:32: 📚 This video discusses the findings of scientific studies on LDL levels, statin drugs, and high-fat diets, highlighting the importance of considering all available evidence. 21:57: 👩⚕ Doctors ignoring scientific evidence contributes to the obesity epidemic. Recap by Tammy AI
Another excellent chat. But there is a theory of heart disease called the myogenic theory. It states that the heart is the only thing that is both and organ and a muscle. It needs nutrients. There is a kind of nutrient that keeps your heart strong -- called a cardio tonic - well guess what, your body makes cardiotonics... from what? CHOLESTEROL. So it makes sense that cholesterol is protective. There is an epidemic of heart failure right now.. and they don't know why? I do.
The only problem is the RCT of LF vs LC. Very few of those are isocaloric, and even fewer have the same protein intake. If I recall correctly I only found 1. Everything else is ok
In the end, all this "new data" shows that our body is indead adapted to a lifestyle our ancestors lived for millions of years, which is is exactely what to expect. - low carb, probably with phases of ketosis 3/4 of the year. - low un-saturated fat - phases of fasting How could it possibly be different?
So True My usual GP passed away so i started seeing a different Dr (my Mums) and the first blood test resulted in 5 new scripts, no education, no natural remedies, first can off the ranks just bang, here is 5 scripts and still to this day i still don't know why. I don't take them but i did try and i massively went backwards.
Want to hear the single most stupid and ignorant thing that I have ever heard a doctor say? When considering why athletes and long-distance runners sometimes dropped dead suddenly, he posited that, it was because fit people have higher overall cholesterol levels.
Dr Mason does not seem to understand meta analysis A population based study in Denmark shows statins have a beneficial effect on mortality in type 2 diabetes. Swedish population study has similar results Interesting that sildenafil/tadalafil also had mortality benefits The fats data is evolving- most doctors are aware of clear benefits from olive oil for example Beware of anyone who tells you ‘I’m the one who has all the answers’ - science does not work that way
. Hi Dan. You wrote: "A population based study in Denmark..." and "Swedish population study has similar results..." Would you please provide a link to each of those studies? So readers can can go look at the studies and see what they actually say, and whether their conclusions are properly supported by the study data and methodology. .
Here is the problem.. we take a vaccines that works against the corona virus... covid is down to tiny numbers in 4 months.. we take statins for 20 years and heart disease deaths don't really go down. Riddle me that?
@@CelineNoyce Exactly! Statin benefits, if there are any, were always exaggerated using relative benefits rather than absolute risk. In absolute terms, the CVD risks were lowered a tiny fraction of a percent. And all cause mortality goes up significantly more. I argued with my Dr. every time I went in to see him. Chris, your LDL is WAY too high and you need to be on a statin. Eventually he sent me for a calcium scan, and my score came back at 0, at 59 years old. He doesn't talk to me about my LDL anymore, but I doubt he changed his advice to his other patients.
Better than my doctor. She harassed me about mine -- doesn't matter that my cholesterol has been stable since I was 22. I got a CAC at 50. Zero. First cholesterol test (that she didn't tell me she had put in -- so I wasn't fasting) that came back high afterward, she wanted me on statins again. NO.
@@CelineNoyce COVID reduction mainly due to change in specifications for the test reducing the PCR count for "positive" from somewhere between 35-40, depending on what country you're in, down to 25-28. I'm not arguing for stating at all...I totally agree with you....I just wanted to share that bit of info often hidden from public.
The difference is the quality of evidence, vegans love their epidemiology, with weak associations that are not even maintained when performed on other demographics. Here Paul shows a lot of interventional studies, this kind of studies can actually determine causation, that's why you should always prefer interventional studies when available. Epidemiology, specifically when the relative risk is less than 2 is very weak and confounded by a lot of other factors.
@@Gengh13 actually nutritionfacts.org is the full on double blind placebo peer reviewed able to replicate kinda science that's acceptable to science check it out for the other side of the coin and get back to me with your confusion because it all makes sense
No vegan diet for me. My body can't stand a lot of plants. My body is very reactive. I'm finally free of arthritis and almost all my autoimmune symptoms as a result of eating Carnivore. I've lost weight, my blood sugar is stable, and I no longer snack nor do I get carb cravings. Appetite has normalized. I only need to eat 2 meals a day and I never get "hangry" anymore. Go and eat the way you want to eat. I'm going to stick to the diet that finally gave me my health back. Results can speak louder than any study.
I had been on Keto for a number of months and my regular clinician said I could quit taking my BP and statin meds since all my blood work looked really good and it probably wasn't necessary to be on them any more. When I went to the cardiologist, for another unrelated issue, he asked why I had stopped taking the meds and I told him that I had made changes to my diet in order to rid myself of having to deal with the heart meds (and other meds like Glipizide) because of their side effects. He said something like, "well that's all well and good, but you really need to be on a statin, regardless". Before the visit, I had done some research about statins, cholesterol etc, and asked him if a slightly elevated LDL level was necessarily a bad thing. He then cited some study (what's name I can't recall at the moment) that had really nothing to do with the efficacy of statins at all and he made it sound like that was definitive proof and reason that I should be back on the meds...case closed- end of discussion. I was a bit disappointed at that point, relented and let him write the script.
I decided that I would go back on them temporarily and do a bit more research before the follow-up. Meanwhile, the new BP med he prescribed was making me dizzy, and I decided to stop taking it after 2 days. I also found a study online concerning the effects of statins on reducing CoQ10 which I learned was an essential enzyme for heart function. I printed it out and brought it with me for the follow up visit.
The first thing he asked was if I was taking the meds he scripted. I said that the beta blocker was making me dizzy, so I ceased taking it and although I started back on the statin, had some serious reservations about continuing them and showed him the printout of the study I had found. He took a short glance at it, handed it back to me, dismissing it as something akin to media hype, restated his old talking points from our last visit and then re-emphasized that I needed to be back on a statin and beta blocker. I then restated that the damn beta blocker was making me dizzy. He snapped back, "Then just take half a tablet every day!"
To finish it off I stated again my reservations about the statins. At this point, he took on a defensive tone, got rather "huffy", and said, "well if you don't want to take the meds, I'll just put in your record that you refused the meds...I'm a cardiologist and I take a statin!" In my own mind at that point, I decided that this guy was never going to be empathetic to the needs and concerns of his patient and let him write the scripts again. Only this time, I drove past the pharmacy, went home and threw the beta blocker and the statin in the trash and haven't looked back.
Also, I had forgotten to mention that prior to doing Keto, I actually had a heart attack while I was on a statin.
I have been on keto now for two yrs and have quit taking my meds because I chose diet and exercise over drug use. I have also done research through RUclips conferences with various Dr’s and have learned a lot. I too have had similar talk with my Dr., who is is Physician Assistant. I am was a diabetic and stopped my Metformin, Valsartan and other meds. I check my bs (blood sugar) every morning and watch what I eat and exercise. After losing over 42 lb on keto I talked to him and told him I was on keto and was aiming at getting my A12 down to 5.8.. I am at 6.3 and still have a way to go.. bottom line I also had a conversation with him and he put into my records that I refused to take my statins. I asked him about a blood test that would show my ldl true levels and he said he could order it but couldn’t read it. Lol. I have never had heart problems but that is a history in family but, I truly believe that diet, exercise and knowledge goes farther than those statin. Dr. Nadi Aldi is a good one to watch too.. Good luck 👍 stay healthy and off statins.
@@dianelarpenteur637 Order your own blood work! I go through Life Extension Foundation. They’ll do a post phone call with you to go over every aspect of the results. They then make supplemental recommendations, but NEVER push anything to be purchased! They are a top notch organization!
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My opinion is that you should change doctors. He isn't the only one around. I changed mine after she kept hounding me about statins, and "threatened" to put a note in my file about me refusing to take statins. I didn't argue with her, but got up and left, never to return. I changed doctor's in the parking lot sitting in my car....never saw her again. There seems to be a financial incentive for so many doctors to push statins. I've heard a few comments to the effect that doctors are compensated by the drug companies but I can't state that for a fact. The bottom line is I was on a statin for over 30 years during my time in the military. I was given statins for high cholesterol and it's had devastating effects on my health ever since. I retired and joined another medical group outside of the industrial military medical complex and I stopped taking them. But that was not before I started having problems with fatty liver, beginning stages of erectile dysfunction, and bad knees that I attributed to getting old.
Once I stopped taking statins, I feel a tremendous difference. My insulin sensitivity is coming back and my A1C dropped from a 7.2 down to a manageable 5.1. Of course I gave up sugar and other things that contributed to my metabolic deficiency. My HDL has increased and my triglycerides have decreased. I'm still being given static about my LDL being higher but in my opinion that's not a bad thing.
Don't let doctors talk you into doing a bad thing always get a second opinion.
I hear it over and over again from my patients... I'm a PT , Clients have no idea why they are doing anything... Physicians are supposed to be on our side, not the side of big Pharma... WTF... It makes more logical sense to me to follow the science with your eyes wide open, and to not follow the medicine with blinders on. Good for you.
Good for you. My doctor got so angry he walked out of the room. I told him I am not interested in a thing Big Pharma tells you, nor in pills to cover up symptoms, I want to know the root cause of the problem physiologically and work on that. Didnt like hearing that one bit. He said you don't need a doctor then, I said yes I do, one that understands nutrition and is more interested in cures then treatment.
I first came across Dr. Paul Mason in late December 2020, I watched one of his lectures and by March 2021 I had reversed by Type 2 Diabetes, come off my statins and Metformin that I had been taking for years, and reduced my daily fasting blood levels from 7.4 mmol to 4.2 mmol, as I type this in May 2021 I have now lost nearly 4 stone in weight (56 lbs / 25.4 kg) following a keto diet, and am fitter and healthier at 52 than I was in my 30 somethings, who knows what the future holds, but I owe the chance of a normal life again to Dr.Paul Mason and avidly watch everything this wonderful physician puts out into the public domain, I just hope GP's and the NHS here in the UK start to catch up with the science because a lot of lives could be saved and massive healthcare costs reduced.
Dr. Mason is a champion! God bless him for sifting through the mess of scientific confusion and presenting the truth clearly and boldly!
Brilliant as always. Thank you ( gp in U.K.)
Hi..gp where in uk?
Be my GP.
EXCELLENT! CONCISE!
This video should be a required course for all medical students as part of their dietary education!
HOMERUN, PAUL!
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The Heart Foundation accepted $300,000 a year from McDonald's in return for its tick of approval says it all.
Heart and Diabetes foundations are corrupt and we should be ignoring them.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
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@@paulrichard4945 Just go carnivore cant go wrong. be like a lion.
Wow I did not know that
Fortunately I have already had that conversation with my GP. You know the one that goes, "Your cholesterol is higher than we'd like. We need you to take statins." "I am not going to." "But you are at greater risk of dying". "I am sorry but I am not going to, and we all have to die. I believe the side effects are dreadful and I am not going to take them." "But they will prevent your dying before you might otherwise." "What are the numbers? Can you tell me it is going to give me years or just a few days?" "Well the numbers to treat are.......I can't find it just now." "If you can tell me that I will live years longer and without nasty side effects then I might consider it, but you cannot. The evidence for them being effective in post menopausal women is not there and I am not going to take them. I already have bad enough joint pain, so thanks, but no thanks. I am not going to take them."
I had this same conversation with the doctor. She was clueless, particularly about the effects of these drugs on postmenopausal women. She said it was due to genetics but couldn't say a word when I told her no issues run in the family.
Geez Louise! This is almost word-for-word the conversation I had with my doctor 2 months ago! Are they all reading from the same script? My answer to "But you are at a greater risk of dying. A statin will keep you from dying. Do you want to die?" was "I thought my chances of dying were 100% from when I was a fertilized egg. Are you saying you've now got something that confers immortality?!?!"
Why don't you just read the NG238 patient decision aid instead of believing all these cranks and quacks? Your doctor was trying to help you live a longer and healthier life.
Eye-opening video. The part about the 40-year old studies being finally published is fascinating/hilarious/depressing. Keep rocking, Dr. Mason.
off statins and ON carnivore for a year and a half and haven't felt this good and been fitter since I was a child!
I was put on statins some years ago. They dramatically affected my mental state. I would lose my temper for no reason and on one occasion wound up throwing furniture down the stairs. Also at my annual health MOT the blood test always came back as close to diabetic. Went to see another doctor and he looked at my cholesterol levels and said why the hell are you on statins you don't need them. Funnily enough since coming off statins I no longer show up in blood tests as near diabetic but the nurse who did the MOT pre covid would always say I should be on statins. It was like a mantra with no thought or reason. Needless to say I would never take statins again.
I had an abusive boss once and I still maintain it was due to statins... he also was crazy forgetful. I think statins are destroying the country. USSC decision you think is crazy? I wonder how many of them are on statins.
Doc/nurses would easily be replaced by AI since they all think like bots anyway. Insurance runs and ruins everything anyway. Primary Care Docs are obsolete.
I love this short sharp and strong evidence based talk. Thanks Dr. Mason!
You mean in addition to the two hours they already get?
Good concise delivery. Totally understandable with plenty of evidence to back up every word. Thank you. This is going to be one I send to all my friends.
I'm a nurse in home care, very hard seeing all the elderly on statins with so much pain
Amazing, Dr. Paul Mason. xx
Thanks for the amazing pressntation!
A few days ago, a study from the U.K. made headlines around the world saying that vegetarians had healthier biomarkers than those who included meat in their diet. Curious, I read one of these articles on the study and found out that total cholesterol and LDL were lower (presumed to be a good thing), but HDL was also lower and triglycerides were higher. After seeing Dr. Mason's video on what what high LDL means in those who follow a keto or low carb diet, I thought: hmmm.... those biomarkers don't look so flash after all.
Yeah, most doctors concetrate on the wrong markers, sadly.
BTW, would you have the link to this study?
My insurance company is starting to pressure me to take statins because they’re not seeing that I have prescriptions for them. I might eventually have to get my doctor to prescribe the cheapest statin available so I can buy and discard it...
If I was in your place and could not avoid the prescription I would do the same!
You do what you need to do to take care of yourself. The system that's prescribing them is making a fortune off of it, so if you were to "fudge"a little more power to you!
there had been some keto conventions where specific health insurance companies attended recognising the importance of this diet and how it may improve outcomes not only for the patient but the insurance industry itself.
Also it depends on what markers the insurance company uses. If for example you have elevated LDL levels and they use that as a reason you could potentially follow the 'feldman protocol' named after David Feldman who is one of the people digging into the science and actions of LDL in particular. The protocol will generally lower LDL in the short term, just long enough to fool a blood test. It is partially based on the idea that LDL goes down with weight GAIN and up during weight LOSS.
@@scottw2317 I had been wondering about that very thing! Thanks for the tip :)
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Wow, such quality content from you Dr Mason, highly appreciated, keep up the great job you're doing. Im a doctor my self and generally I consider the docs population to be of a relatively low level of intelligence and/or the ability to question what they're taught, rather they need authority/guidelines they can follow, but hey if that's what they were taught in medical school by their professors and if that's THE science and the only true science why would they dig and try to contradict that, when they're busy people to begin with.
I blame being on Simvastatin and then Atorvastatin for years for giving me insulin resistance, obesity and diabetes. I have stopped all meds except Levothyroxine and Bisoprolol and I'm slowly losing weight on a ketogenic-fasting diet and my health is much improved.
The peer review process is seriously flawed. Thank you again Paul, for your succinct coverage of this vexed topic
Well said; excellent presentation by Dr. Mason, as usual. On _peer review_ I think the expectations are misplaced. Meaning the system is not used to confirm the viability of scientific findings but, rather, to maintain the _status quo_ by eschewing controversial or disruptive evidence.
@@malcontent_1 the reviewers are often carefully picked to NOT criticise the paper, especially if it's one the journal actively wants to publish.
@@cassieoz1702 indeed, my point exactly. Thus the status quo reigns supreme.
My parents own a house for elderly care whose patients consist of dementia and amputees, and I would come back every year for a month (military leave) to help out. Initially there were six patients: two of whom were the amputees and the four had dementia; all of the four were prescribed statins by there doctors. I noticed while I was there one of the males on statins became increasingly aggressive and his temper was getting shorter by the day. He was 6'5 and 300lbs and since we were feeding him healthy foods the swelling in his legs went down and became increasingly mobile. Me and my brother had to watch him through the night to make sure he didn't hurt anyone. The other two couldn't form words anymore, and the last one had their teeth falling out and had the skin of a drug user.
I departed after my leave ended and six months later I get a call from my mom and she tells me that three of the dementia patients had died and the one whose teeth were falling out is not long for this world. I talked to the two amputees on face time and they looked well.
Family and friends think I'm nuts for not listening to "experts".
Thanks again Paul
Have been on a keto diet lost stone and !/2 just been in for carotid artery surgery all successful main problem now blood pressure far to low 70/30 this after struggling for 15 years to get it down, GP has stoped my three blood pressure tablets for7 days and now constantly recording 140/60 i am amazed ,next thing to look at is statins,changing my diet was the best thing i have ever done I am 72 years old and feel like i am starting to come out from a long illness
Fascinating! As a retired RN, I wonder how statins, which appear to increase the risk of type 2 diabetes -which increases the risk of heart disease) could ever be championed!
Basic chemistry should tell you that poly un-saturated fat is unstable due to double covalent bond and prone to oxidation!. Clearly, poly-unsaturated fat is more than likely to increase oxidative stress in cells. Saturated fat has single covalent bond and therefore stable as it cannot undergo any chemical reaction.
How is it possible for anyone to accept that poly-unsaturated fat is better than saturated fat?. This is beyond me.
Totally agree with you.
"Saturated fat has single covalent bond and therefore stable as it cannot undergo any chemical reaction."
The above sentence, interpreted literally, is obviously false.
Digestion is a chemical reaction, and saturated fat is obviously digested.
Perhaps you meant to say that saturated fat does not oxidize the way unsaturated fat does.
Interesting and informative for a lay person. I’m 70, fit & healthy. Having lost 19lbs on a low carb/fasting diet, my LDL has risen. I have a high HDL and low TG but my GP is pushing me towards statins. I’m going to ask him to read the papers you’ve cited. Doctors rely on evidence-based medicine, so if he reads them, maybe it’ll change his mind.
Tell him you don't want diabetes type 2 - which statins can increase the chance of (even says so in the package insert) or muscle wastage (again, this is what statins can affect).
Your dr is governed by STANDARD OF CARE. He/she is not going to change. We’re on our own.
That is why I avoid doctors, they cant force you to take them.
Same here, my doctor wanted me to start on statins as my total cholesterol was high, HDH high, TG Low. I said no, first I want a calcium score/angiogram test which showed all arteries clear and normal, 0 calcium score. He still wanted me to start on statins, I said no.
@@janeth.3283 Even the AHA concedes that statins aren't indicated with a zero calcium score.
What a great man! Keep up the good fight!
I have taken statins for 35 years. Now have Coronary Artery Calcium score of 1543 yet cardiologist wants me to increase statins. Statins are in the rubbish bin along with Carmens Muesli.
It is the dietary fructose and high Insulin which are causing atherosclerosis. Actually, there are severall steps in the progression of atherosclerosis. Only one of them is connectetd to LDL. All of them are connected to either high insulin/insulin resistance or dietary fructose or both. (Well and guess what causes high insulin/insulin resistance in the first place? Sugar/fructose!)
@@btudrus Thanks for the comment. I have only found out about fructose in the last month. 35 years late and 54 years after the nonsense I was taught in physiology and biochemistry at University.
Statins increase Calcium Scores but they "think" its a positive result.
We must have gone to the same University! Same message which silly me believed. Been low card for 90 days now - can walk for kms no angina - lost 15 kg got lots of energy. Go for it you will be amazed at the results and you may find a renewed enthusiasm for what you did learn in university - how to analyze data and not be bothered by big molecules.
Experts in Positions of Authority ignoring / distorting Evidence-based Medicine? Follow the Money trail to Food industry + Pharma Statin Producers.
Thank you Dr. Mason.
Thanks so much!!!
Unfortunately most doctors I talked to have recommended statins without being able to explain the context in an understandable way, mealy referring to "many very costly studies". On the other hand my liver has served me unbelievably well during my 63 years of life despite the fact that I during the first 55 of those years ate huge amounts of sugar and carbohydrates and in the process collected significant amount of excessive fat tissue. Now after loosing most of the excessive weight I have problems to accept these doctors claim that my liver suddenly wants to murder me through cholesterol-poisoning. I just don't buy it!
Don't buy it. Your doctor is the murderer.
Thank you Dr Mason for all your extremely scientific and medically sound advice 🇺🇸👍
Dr Paul Mason, providing information in an insane world of disinformation.
May the universes protect and support Dr Mason for standing up. Thank you forever!
In 2020, at 57, I went keto and within 8 months lost 50 lbs, got off all meds, and my joint pain vanished.
When I go for my annual physical, the doc says “I recommend a statin.” I politely decline and fret that my doc, like sooo many others, still believe the absolute shit “science” of the manufacturers.
Then I do a hundred pushups in his office. He hates that.
Great presentation by a great doctor!
It's also a logical fallacy: 'appeal to authority'.
Brilliant presentation. Cheers
I will never take another statin never again in my life, I could care less what a Doctor tells me. When I use to complain about my joints, blood sugars, and all sorts of markers being out of whack, I would tell them this and they would look at me crazy so I now unfortunately look at them crazy. By the way my weight use to be 250 lbs borderline diabetic with normal cholesterol and I'm now a 175 lbs, insulin sensitive, low triglycerides, and high HDL. My high LDL though is the only marker that's seem to be the issue and they try to throw the kitchen sink at that problem
Get a lipid subfraction, that will tell you what your ldl is doing.
Look at Dave Feldman's research on LDL
Thanks Dr Mason!
It’s nearly impossible to get through my cardio and PCP doctors head that I know they read NOTHING and know NOTHING about nutrition. Sad but I’m keeping them in my healthcare ONLY for emergencies and NOT for maintenance. I’m off all 17 Rx because of Keto & intermittent fasting and they have expressed their negative attitudes. So be it. They openly show their will to be cognitive dissidents! So sad -all that education gone to waste and being OWNED by bug Harma. ( spelling intended)
PHC can take *THE NEXT STEP IN EFFECTIVENESS* by first adding foods rather than taking bad foods away✅. Like a pound of ground meat and enough salt. Then eliminating the bad foods becomes much easier for multiple reasons.
References would greatly be appreciated down in your notes to back up all. Great talk!
the last 2 references highlight the magnitude of diabetes on the cardiovascular mortality, which is very high The seven-year incidence rates of myocardial infarction in nondiabetic subjects with and without prior myocardial infarction at base line were 18.8 percent and 3.5 percent, respectively (P
The other thing that seems to have been forgotten is the statin that was withdrawn from the market because so many were literally dying within 48hrs of starting them. (They caused massive sudden protein breakdown which overwhelms the kidneys and causes them to fail).
Do you know the name?
@@mikemitter cerivastatin
@@dudeatx Thank You.
Thank you for this information!!!
When someone, especially doctors, quote a study do your own research and find put who funded that study.....its likely to make it null and void.
You don't have to "so your own research". Ask for the study. There are sections for who funded the study as well as potential conflicts of interest in the researcher(s). Just read it.
Oct 12, 2021
Statin Use Is Associated with Excess Risk for Diabetes Progression
Paul S. Mueller, MD, MPH, FACP, reviewing Mansi IA et al. JAMA Intern Med 2021 Oct 4
I was put on statins in 2018 & they rapidly reduced my cholesterol. However I came off them after 6 months due to side effects. My GP suggested a different type but I declined. Still statin use gets mentioned to me, but knowing what I know now I would never take them again in any circumstance. I also now learn that a higher LDL can actually be beneficial over age 60 which I am. Sadly it all seems to be about the bottom line & poorly informed healthcare professionals. I cut saturated fat right down but it made no difference to my cholesterol or weight so now I’m not going to stress about everything being low sat fat & ignore so called healthy eating guidelines. Low carb seems to be the way forward & cut out ultra processed food.
Can you put links to the information used for this video? More eyes on something is better.
Thanks!
I am 82. I am active, currently a very low carb diet. I am active and about 15 pounds heavier that I would like. My doctor put me on statins. Over time my A1c went up to 5.7. I said I wanted to get off statins as my blood numbers are exceptionally good but my A1c worries me as my mom was diabetic. She sent me to the cardiologist who said I should stay on statins. Why, I asked? I have no prior heart attacks, no indicators of heart disease. He said my age is a risk factor that that is sufficient a risk factor to warrant statins. I am still debating with myself about whether to stop taking them.
Looks like I found a new interesting channel.
Keto for seventeen years here..I got a call yesterday on my blood results with the only important bits being the high ldl. I told the caller twice one word;"No."
They act like somehow the injections are different. She did not even mention
my partial size results cause the only important thing is the ldl number.
I got a calcium score done and it was 7 with less than a 10% chance of me having a corrinairy event..But I still should take a statin,doppler results,still need a statin.
Why did I even bother to do all this stuff as both Dr's have already decided I need a statin.
I'm never taking those horrible drugs again and look forward to the never ending statin lectures.🙄
Please put a link to the cholesterol study my husband's doctor wants him on a statin
Write to FDA if take/took statin and let them know. maybe write to who makes the Dr try to write statins(is that government or a Dr society ?) and say will sue for causing so much pain.
I need to see the original papers - where are they? Is there a list somewhere?
Doctors, who are generalists, refer patients to various specialists when the doctor knows the specialist will know more about a condition. Doctors are not specialists in nutrition, so why don’t they refer patients to dieticians when a patient needs specialist dietary advice?
Actually the dietitians are usually the problem. Their schooling is plant based in origin and they are clueless about the need for saturated fats. The Seventh Day Adventist campaign to make the world vegan to promote the Second Coming of Christ is alive and well. Misinformation is sold by media as truth, the truth is called misinformation and censored. The world has gone mad.
It’s not scientific bias, it’s plain old monetary bias...big money (funding for the scientific study) drives the “science”...
I just got my worst medical test result ever: 337 CAC score (which one med website claims gives my 61-yr old body the arteries of an 83-yr old).
I have busted my butt for 40 yrs to be healthy (regular exercise and following recommended diets). In 1980, I drank the koolaide and became a vegan for 34 yrs. Two yrs ago, I had an epiphany and went keto/carnivore. Lost 30 lbs and never felt better/stronger. It brought me back to my football weight in 1977. My thinking/memory are much improved. Blood pressure has gone way down. My HDL/triglyceride ratio is excellent (0.68). But my LDL is 228 (2x what it was 2 yrs ago).
My doc (who totally gets it regarding keto, dietary fat, cholesterol, etc.) has prescribed baby aspirin and Crestor statin after seeing my CAC score, and cautions against strenuous exercise. In addition, a keto friend advises I get off saturated fats & high cholesterol foods (meat, eggs).
I am stumped.
Do I resist taking Crestor statin? Do I get off carnivore and eggs and saturated fat to reduce cholesterol? Do I take magnesium, K2, D3, and IP-6 to fight arterial calcification? Do I assume I will always have a high CAC score and am fated to die soon from heart disease?
I now believe - with great resentment - that vegetarian and low-fat crusaders sold me a bill of goods that I bought hook, line, and sinker. Forty years of working hard to be healthy has left me with 83-year old arteries because the extremely high carb/sugar load I was consuming for 34 years caused severe damage to my arteries.
How ironic.
You feel like you've been lied to!!
K2 and magnesium put the calcium where it is supposed to go in your bones. I am following a D3, K2 and magnesium to make my bones stronger, remove calcium deposits from my arteries etc. carry on with your low carb way of eating and increase your levels of k2 etc. I have read that people have benefited from this woe and the extra supplements but see your doctor.
@@kaygibson8942 dnozzi, see this comment by Kay Gibson!
Make sure you stay away from calcium carbonate which can be added to foods but contributes to calcification as it is a more difficult form of calcium to deal with.
I wouldn’t change your current keto diet, but rather take the k2, magnesium, and d3.
Be aware of the quality of the animal foods as that relates to omega 3/6 balance. Must be pasture raised.
Continue to research arterial plaque removal through natural or healthier means.
There is another test you can do to check arterial plaque levels-it’s called a “Safe echo Cimt test”. It’s done on the Carotid arteries of the neck.
Also, there is a quick artery cleansing procedure done by some naturopaths and alternative health clinics where they use an IV to put phosphatidylcholine directly into the bloodstream. It’s said to clear the plaque right out because it breaks down the deposits. It’s been done in Switzerland for 50 years. Inquire at local alternative health clinic or naturopath.
I am currently looking into the taking of phosphatidylcholine as supplement for this purpose though it will not be as fast as the IV method.
A couple comments down, someone claims to have been on statins for 35 years and their CAC is over 1500. I have no idea how they are alive still.
Your body took a long time to get into bad health. The longer you are on carnivore the better your markers will be. Research David Diamond, Dave Feldman. High LDL is not a problem. Dave Feldman is doing a study on
N lean mass hyper responders whose LDL is high. Dr Anthony Chaffee and Dr Shawn Baker podcast are also excellent as is Dr Baker's regular channel. Keep up with carnivore.
Where are the places where people live longest ???
The Mediterranean, Japan and a few other places .... what do they they eat ??
Do the drug manufacturers have most to lose when you don't use their drugs?? How far will they go to keep market share?
What effect does Money have on the advise we receive ?
Think big tobacco, the Sugar industry, Oxycotin, HIV sufferers!
What are statins supposed to do? Magically make fat you eat disappear? I eat fat, a lot of fat, it makes cholesterol so, what happens if I take the statins? This has yet to make sence. Cholesterol makes bile which is supposed to digest the fat I eat. So, what happens to the fat if I'm taking statins?
Medicine is focused on fixing broken things. A massive effort needs to be put into preventive medicine so that nutrition health advice is much sharper and better disseminated. I note that my octogenarian mother has stopped eating apple skin, most sources of fiber and seeds because a doctor told her it would help her diviculitus. Reading what can be found on the web - be it the NHS or published papers - all reject this idea as not correlated with outcome by trials or other studies.
You should watch the video Dr Mason does about fibre (I think it is on his own RUclips channel)
In fact, the opposite is true. She should eat more fibre. My diverticulosis has disappeared with a plant-based diet (and I have the colonoscopy results to prove it). Tell her to eat more greens and chew them well.
Ahhhhhh yes. the Graphs and especially the Conclusion are the most ignored parts of a study.
Its great you answered the question on trans-fats in those 1970s studies as I have had that put to me by vegans in the past and that their 'mendelian' studies prove saturated fat is bad otherwise.
I would avoid using the term 'risk' for associational studies though, none of that research could definitely define risk of x outcome but only association. We do not want to fall into the same false dogma the vegan doctors use by throwing the laden word risk on everything we dislike.
Oh man my wife has lost the weight she tried to lose for a decade without even trying just eating my high fat meat based keto food at night. She’s not in ketosis and still eats a fair amount of carbs during the day.
She used to try so hard walking miles and eating almost nothing (but high carb low fat). She’s so mad that I was right lol. It’s all about insulin. Until you lower that your fat cells cannot release their contents.
I’ve reviewed numerous studies showing fats, specifically saturated fats, saturating our cells causing insulin to be turned away from our cells, causing glucose to stay in our blood system. This begins a path towards diabetes two. The reason a Keto diet helps alleviate diabetes two, is because significantly reducing carbohydrates reduces the need for insulin to do its function. But this does not alleviate the problem. Because your cells are still loaded with fat. As soon as you eat carbohydrates you are back to your path toward diabetes two. The problem with most of all Keto diets is that they significantly reduce fiber, which the micro biome in your gut requires for true health.
How do you figure that Keto reduces fibre?
Vegetables are the best source of fibre
I may be mistaken, but to remain in true ketosis people often avoid high fiber vegetables, starches, and grains.
@@DbeeSapphire it depends on what line of thought they follow. Dr Eric Berg recommends basically platefuls of salad and cruciferous vegetables.
But it’s worth noting that there are some persons on all animal foods diets with no intestinal difficulties. And the Masai tribe of Africa lived entirely on animal foods for untold generations.
I am so saddened that the PHC has no collaboration with registered dietitians. Where is the dialogue between medics and dietitians, who are all able read the same research papers? I well remember my attempts at in Practice training for GPs and PNs when the evidence departed from the ‘party line’. Whatever happened to ‘evidence based medicine’. I,m long retired ( come from way back in the Yudkin era ) and now find there are enlightened medics claiming the field, but please please involve and collaborate with your dietetic colleagues. I,ve given up hoping that nutrition students and medics will study nutrition modules together. But why not??
0:00: 🩺 Doctors often give bad nutritional advice due to lack of training and pressure to follow dietary guidelines.
5:33: 🔍 The video highlights the issue of eminence-based medicine and the misinformation doctors receive, leading to misleading health guidelines and recommendations.
10:53: ✅ The orthodox view on dietary fat is being challenged, as studies show that increasing polyunsaturated fats and reducing saturated fats can increase the risk of death and that individuals with higher LDL levels tend to live longer.
16:32: 📚 This video discusses the findings of scientific studies on LDL levels, statin drugs, and high-fat diets, highlighting the importance of considering all available evidence.
21:57: 👩⚕ Doctors ignoring scientific evidence contributes to the obesity epidemic.
Recap by Tammy AI
Another excellent chat. But there is a theory of heart disease called the myogenic theory. It states that the heart is the only thing that is both and organ and a muscle. It needs nutrients. There is a kind of nutrient that keeps your heart strong -- called a cardio tonic - well guess what, your body makes cardiotonics... from what? CHOLESTEROL. So it makes sense that cholesterol is protective. There is an epidemic of heart failure right now.. and they don't know why? I do.
The only problem is the RCT of LF vs LC. Very few of those are isocaloric, and even fewer have the same protein intake. If I recall correctly I only found 1. Everything else is ok
In the end, all this "new data" shows that our body is indead adapted to a lifestyle our ancestors lived for millions of years, which is is exactely what to expect.
- low carb, probably with phases of ketosis 3/4 of the year.
- low un-saturated fat
- phases of fasting
How could it possibly be different?
These are the reasons why I avoid doctors
Big ears!
All the better for listening more.
Wish he’d go hardest after demonization of red meat
The doctors give bad nutritional advice because they don't know any better. My doctor has been trying to get me on statins for years.
So True
My usual GP passed away so i started seeing a different Dr (my Mums) and the first blood test resulted in 5 new scripts, no education, no natural remedies, first can off the ranks just bang, here is 5 scripts and still to this day i still don't know why.
I don't take them but i did try and i massively went backwards.
Then explain why TC/HDL ratio worsens on a high fat diet. Lipid balance worsens.. artery disease progresses.
I find that eating lots of fresh vulva every day is much more effective than stating.
Dr Paul Mason looks a picture of health as do all the carnivore doctors. Compare those doctors to vegan doctors .. case closed.
Want to hear the single most stupid and ignorant thing that I have ever heard a doctor say? When considering why athletes and long-distance runners sometimes dropped dead suddenly, he posited that, it was because fit people have higher overall cholesterol levels.
Quacks.
I respect everyones opinion, but please present the science objectively, don't just try to make a point
This guy leaves out just as much information he accuses others of doing. Not a lot of honesty in the nutrition field.
agreed. . . 27.24 is more than enough time to present all the evidence. I reckon he must be hidding something.
What did he leave out?
Dr Mason does not seem to understand meta analysis
A population based study in Denmark shows statins have a beneficial effect on mortality in type 2 diabetes. Swedish population study has similar results
Interesting that sildenafil/tadalafil also had mortality benefits
The fats data is evolving- most doctors are aware of clear benefits from olive oil for example
Beware of anyone who tells you ‘I’m the one who has all the answers’ - science does not work that way
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Hi Dan. You wrote:
"A population based study in Denmark..."
and
"Swedish population study has similar results..."
Would you please provide a link to each of those studies? So readers can can go look at the studies and see what they actually say, and whether their conclusions are properly supported by the study data and methodology.
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Here is the problem.. we take a vaccines that works against the corona virus... covid is down to tiny numbers in 4 months.. we take statins for 20 years and heart disease deaths don't really go down. Riddle me that?
@@CelineNoyce Exactly! Statin benefits, if there are any, were always exaggerated using relative benefits rather than absolute risk. In absolute terms, the CVD risks were lowered a tiny fraction of a percent. And all cause mortality goes up significantly more. I argued with my Dr. every time I went in to see him. Chris, your LDL is WAY too high and you need to be on a statin. Eventually he sent me for a calcium scan, and my score came back at 0, at 59 years old. He doesn't talk to me about my LDL anymore, but I doubt he changed his advice to his other patients.
Better than my doctor. She harassed me about mine -- doesn't matter that my cholesterol has been stable since I was 22. I got a CAC at 50. Zero. First cholesterol test (that she didn't tell me she had put in -- so I wasn't fasting) that came back high afterward, she wanted me on statins again. NO.
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COVID reduction mainly due to change in specifications for the test reducing the PCR count for "positive" from somewhere between 35-40, depending on what country you're in, down to 25-28.
I'm not arguing for stating at all...I totally agree with you....I just wanted to share that bit of info often hidden from public.
As much as I want to believe the diet data I see the opposite from Dr Michael greger. Vegan
Paul was facing metabolic dysfunction himself a few years back. He is the picture of health now. Which dr would you really take guidance from?
Most vegan docs don't look as healthy as dr. Paul Mason.
The difference is the quality of evidence, vegans love their epidemiology, with weak associations that are not even maintained when performed on other demographics. Here Paul shows a lot of interventional studies, this kind of studies can actually determine causation, that's why you should always prefer interventional studies when available.
Epidemiology, specifically when the relative risk is less than 2 is very weak and confounded by a lot of other factors.
@@Gengh13 actually nutritionfacts.org is the full on double blind placebo peer reviewed able to replicate kinda science that's acceptable to science check it out for the other side of the coin and get back to me with your confusion because it all makes sense
No vegan diet for me. My body can't stand a lot of plants. My body is very reactive. I'm finally free of arthritis and almost all my autoimmune symptoms as a result of eating Carnivore. I've lost weight, my blood sugar is stable, and I no longer snack nor do I get carb cravings. Appetite has normalized. I only need to eat 2 meals a day and I never get "hangry" anymore. Go and eat the way you want to eat. I'm going to stick to the diet that finally gave me my health back. Results can speak louder than any study.