HOW I FAKED MY LIFE WITH AI (SHORT FILM)

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @kylevorbach
    @kylevorbach  Год назад +167

    Do you think more people/influencers will do stuff like this?

    • @ForthaBois
      @ForthaBois Год назад +33

      They will now. You've opened Pandora's box!

    • @omgchomp
      @omgchomp Год назад +3

      Have you seen Lil Miquela and accounts like that? They're "robots" run by a person and I assume the creator uses some sort of AI to edit the photos and vids of her but that shit already freaks me out lol. I can totally see some hypebeast wannabe running wild with this but i honestly don't know how long they could make it work for

    • @ComputersAndLife
      @ComputersAndLife Год назад +4

      @@omgchomp how long did Belle Delphine get away with it?

    • @ten060
      @ten060 Год назад +7

      This does feel like the natural progression of influencer photos - I remember a few months ago that controversy about influencers hiring out sets that look like private jets/penthouse suites/etc. This would be the cheaper alternative.
      We might even see some influencers hiring their own AI photo trainers soon!

    • @omgchomp
      @omgchomp Год назад +1

      @@ComputersAndLife belle delphine is a person tho lol

  • @kylehill
    @kylehill Год назад +263

    This is extremely well made

    • @omgchomp
      @omgchomp Год назад +21

      i love the documentary style

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +26

      Thanks! 🙏

    • @PolycultureArt
      @PolycultureArt Год назад +1

      Agreed, I have watched this about 15 times now.. it’s a masterclass in short form documentary with this intense autobiographical twist. The metaphysical editing is amazing. The pacing is incredible. Really really well done.

    • @grossearwax3777
      @grossearwax3777 Год назад

      really edited well and overall great work!!!

  • @Aitrepreneur
    @Aitrepreneur Год назад +277

    What a fantastic video...the cinematography, the editing, everything is on point! So much effort went into this, it's absurd... and the message at the end is really powerful!
    Well done man, can't wait to see what you come up with next ;)

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +52

      Yoooo! I literally learned how to do this by watching your videos! There's even a screenshot in one of one of your descriptions in the video! Thanks so much for showing me the ropes!

  • @ipv6tf2
    @ipv6tf2 Год назад +51

    That guy asking if you're OK is a really thoughtful person

  • @testidclaim7032
    @testidclaim7032 Год назад +38

    Your friends are awesome. "If you're only making content all the time, you are AI." So true

  • @Crypttv
    @Crypttv Год назад +26

    we are witnessing manmade horrors beyond our comprehension

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +2

      Has science gone too far?

    • @opart
      @opart Год назад +1

      @@kylevorbach I think the ending suggest that maybe it did. Because even you making this video is a work of fiction, because throughout the whole thing you thought of what to project, instead of being really yourself. I guess you only yourself when you are truly alone.

  • @rizzorepulsive7704
    @rizzorepulsive7704 Год назад +64

    how the fuck do you only have 1.3k subscribers? this is incredible stuff.
    imagine if a group of people decided to do this, all collaborating on creating a fake "scene", pictures and maybe even videos of them in little-known nightclubs or esoteric art galleries that don't really exist. if it got popular enough you could probably even get reporters to report on it as if it was real. the future is going to be wild.

    • @writethatdown100
      @writethatdown100 Год назад

      Now at 2.12K subs

    • @Thevikingcam
      @Thevikingcam Год назад +3

      He will go viral, in one year a near million subs is real thing.

  • @TheBrettWay
    @TheBrettWay Год назад +12

    The cinematography, sound design and storytelling are remarkable

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +2

      Hey thanks man! I really appreciate that!

  • @soldofficialyt
    @soldofficialyt Год назад +12

    You cutting to yourself editing and saving the video when the video should have ended. That was so cool. It was such a cold moment of realization when we found out that even this, was fake.

  • @chr1st0pher
    @chr1st0pher Год назад +191

    “It’s a little like watching your boy get into claymation or something” hahahaha. this is hilarious

    • @omgchomp
      @omgchomp Год назад +11

      could a depressed person do THIS?!??

    • @cailie
      @cailie Год назад +9

      That friend really cared about him. You can tell.

    • @chrisroncho3507
      @chrisroncho3507 Год назад +3

      Stand in the place where you l-

    •  Год назад +2

      This feels personal.

    • @ayybe7894
      @ayybe7894 Год назад

      Requiem for a Tuesday

  • @beefknuckles
    @beefknuckles Год назад +25

    This is incredibly well done, man. Not just the concept (which is obviously incredibly prescient) but your direction. You're a wonderful director and editor. As somebody who used to edit 15+ years ago, that shot at the end of you looking at your timeline hit home hahah

    • @artificium_
      @artificium_ Год назад

      Last shot: a bit bo burnham inside esque yea?

  • @Beyondarmonia
    @Beyondarmonia Год назад +4

    Post this in more places. Genral default subreddits, twitter, AI Facebook groups. You have an absolute banger video on your hands.

  • @LukeBarousse
    @LukeBarousse Год назад +2

    This was a wild ride my dude 🙌🏼
    (Note: commented when video only at 7.1K views)

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +2

      haha i appreciate you coming along for it though! Thanks man!

  • @TheJurgys
    @TheJurgys Год назад +3

    WOW. Love the comment at the end...."but you could've just had a good time". This is so interesting and great work Kyle

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +2

      Hahaha its so devastating and so loving at the same time. So glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

    • @marialuckerath4421
      @marialuckerath4421 3 месяца назад

      loved it too !!

  • @chillasey
    @chillasey Год назад +37

    This is a great video. I love the editing and the color feel of it, I love the script and order, and I loved the wrap up. Incredible stuff

  • @devonwilliams2423
    @devonwilliams2423 Год назад +8

    Break this video into TikToks and keep pushing it everywhere, videos like this are destined for success
    This video was fantastic and I found it on Reddit, Subbed!

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +2

      Thank you! I literally just started doing that today! www.tiktok.com/@kylevorbach

  • @ThomasJ
    @ThomasJ Год назад +36

    This content is so insanely good!! How does this have only 450 views?? Can't wait to see what you do next!

  • @AileenJeanGiray
    @AileenJeanGiray Год назад +5

    I came from reddit and been watching this entire video from there but I've decided to open youtube to comment this:
    Your editing skills is so lit! You can be a movie staff or something with your talent

  • @MicahYaple
    @MicahYaple Год назад +5

    Killed it. I was hoping someone would make this, didn't expect it to be this good.

  • @tony333
    @tony333 Год назад +4

    Whoa, that ending.
    I think this project was amazing and can show you what's possible with AI. While I was amazed, I also felt a feeling of sadness. I imagined looking at a screen of millions of photos of myself in these awesome places, pretending I was there, feeling this fake sense of nostalgia for things that never happened.

  • @hoitinkfotografie
    @hoitinkfotografie Год назад +1

    Very Impressive video! Not (only) the AI part. But the story line, the build up. the storyline. the. every. thing.

  • @kmjgsdkmjgsd
    @kmjgsdkmjgsd Год назад +8

    This is the greatest and highest effort project I have seen so far that has used this AI integrated in the real physical world. Months ago I used to think no one would ever be able to craft great cohesive stories with MJ or SD, but you have proven me very wrong with this expirement. I can only hope many more great storytellers in the future can bring true cinematography into this emerging technology as you have done here, as SD has immense artistic potential I cannot wait to see, but hope to learn one day.

  • @_Zack__
    @_Zack__ Год назад +4

    Wow. That was, bar none, one of the best videos I have seen in a while, both in terms of cinematography and the idea explored about the ramifications AI might have on us. Fantastically done.

  • @williamvanheusen9967
    @williamvanheusen9967 Год назад +1

    Amazing video, really compelling concept and incredibly well-executed. The last scene gives me Harry Styles in Don't Worry Darling vibes.

  • @yule3
    @yule3 Год назад +2

    It's definitely the best video I've seen this year, congratulations man!!!

  • @ajangelsson5585
    @ajangelsson5585 Год назад +3

    What a narrative, editing, everything is amazing, didn't knew your channel but I'm an absolute subscriber. Amazing video and hope you are well

  • @caitlinvetere8278
    @caitlinvetere8278 Год назад +8

    I need to know your cute dog’s thoughts on the ethics and implications of her AI doppelgänger

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +4

      she said she’s worried about a “cyberpunk Barbara Streisand situation” and she won’t elaborate on that

  • @sibience
    @sibience Год назад +11

    This is a really good video, definately deserves more views.
    What you did is still quite difficult and time consuming for most people who are not tech savvy or have an interest in art or AI. However at some point this will be an app on your phone or built into social media platforms. Then the people showing off their lives on social media won't be special anymore because anyone will be able to fake the same photos or videos. When anyone can be "special" on social media then nobody will be special.

  • @razorel
    @razorel Год назад +7

    Absolutely Brilliant!!! Great idea and superb execution. Genuinely speechless. I will follow your evolution closely. This will be an absolute gem of a youtube channel months form now

  • @rowangray6350
    @rowangray6350 Год назад +4

    this is the best thing to ever pop up in my recommended videos. keep it up man!

  • @romaindancre
    @romaindancre Год назад +5

    Dude... the sheer amount of work you put in this video is insane !
    Congrats, I hope this video blows up 🚀

  • @calmgee
    @calmgee Год назад +1

    Man the cinematography in this video is insane. I kinda don’t want to talk about what the title’s about for it’s pretty obvious that it’s interesting but I can see that you really put an insane effort into the “not ai” parts of this video and I appreciate that man.

  • @Relics
    @Relics Год назад +1

    Amazing production quality honestly. And this perfectly show cases the potential of SD

  • @j0bey1
    @j0bey1 Год назад +3

    AI topic aside, this is an incredibly well produced piece on content. Your video production skills are easily as good as your AI skills. Great job.

  • @ralz4682
    @ralz4682 Год назад +1

    I liked how your friend asked how you were doing. That's a good guy there and a keeper of a friend man

  • @andrewmacmillan6714
    @andrewmacmillan6714 Год назад +5

    Dude…congrats on seeing a vision through. This is impressive

  • @StandardStoryCo
    @StandardStoryCo Год назад +1

    Great storytelling & edit my guy!

  • @Patrick-jj5nh
    @Patrick-jj5nh Год назад +1

    This is like a darker epilogue to Bo Burnham's inside now with AI and even more existential dread but no singing. "Yay!"?

  • @DanPurcell
    @DanPurcell Год назад +11

    This is so absurdly good man, what an excellent experiment & movie hahaha

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +2

      thanks so much! so glad to hear it's good and makes sense after living with this alone for like a month haha

  • @FabricioZuccherato
    @FabricioZuccherato Год назад

    This is one of the best written, directed, edited and mixed videos I've ever seen on RUclips and honestly can't believe you only have 3k followers

  • @wondrousperspectives1725
    @wondrousperspectives1725 Год назад +1

    Jesus, Kyle. First video i've every seen of yours and this was absolutely well done. FANTASTIC job.

    • @omgchomp
      @omgchomp Год назад

      if you like horror check out his short film Wake

  • @miguelmflowers
    @miguelmflowers Год назад

    Using dreambooth, training, picking a nice picture and then posting it on social media seems exhausting AF, well done. Earlier in the video I wanted to do the same, but you made me remember how exhausting it is to scroll through pictures, and sometimes you have to still edit them in Photoshop to make them look more realistic (or delete an extra limb). Well done, great editing, I loved the piano background music.

  • @remmo123
    @remmo123 Год назад +2

    That was actually amazingly well put together. I love the editing and story telling. It was way way better than I expected from the look at the thumbnail.

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +1

      hahaha yeah i felt kind of gross doing the big ol RUclips yellow text on it but you gotta do what you gotta do. Very happy you liked it!

  • @maxseager493
    @maxseager493 Год назад

    This is fantastic. Sure, the cinematography and editing are all spot on, but that isn't that hard these days (just a lot of work). What makes this video fantastic is the storytelling structure you chose to tell this story. It's a true Short Film, and it's refreshing to see on RUclips. It highlights, like the exception that proves the rule, how pervasive the 'RUclips' style has become. This video is structured like a proper short film/mini doco like you would see at Film Festivals in the Before Times. It has a direction, tension and release, it asks the audience questions, it provides a message without preaching a view. It has humour, slow and fast story beats, and a poignant moment to conclude. Most importantly, it leaves the audience wanting more.
    Really great filmmaking. Can't wait to see what you do next.

  •  Год назад +2

    The idea, filming, editing and the epic end; all perfect. Great job.

  • @JacaboBlanco
    @JacaboBlanco Год назад +14

    This was a great video.
    Impressive work, Kyle.

    • @JacaboBlanco
      @JacaboBlanco Год назад +1

      But you've also just given the blue print to every would be clout monster 🤣

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +1

      Hey thanks! We’ll know when everyone’s posting pictures with the Goss

  • @Badj9
    @Badj9 Год назад

    Dude, not even getting into the incredible subject of the video, it's one of the best directed/edited film I've seen in a long time.

  • @colewalliser
    @colewalliser Год назад +1

    Dude this is crazy!! Interesting experience and really well done recap video 😜🔥😂👌🏼

  • @lyzandergraphics
    @lyzandergraphics Год назад +1

    Great video! I clicked to learn about AI and ended up realizing how much fake social media really can be.

  • @iaina3251
    @iaina3251 Год назад +2

    Kudos for the video, but the editing and colourising it top notch!

  • @calvinatdrifterstudio8438
    @calvinatdrifterstudio8438 Год назад +3

    This is the first time a RUclips video made my heart race in terror 😳

  • @fredmartinkaaby1835
    @fredmartinkaaby1835 Год назад +1

    Skills! This can easily become a documentary type thriller movie of an social media experiment that gets out of hand. I would definitely watch it!

  • @joshuagervais8992
    @joshuagervais8992 Год назад

    This was absolutely incredible. In every way possible, I dont understand why this hasn't blown up yet. Equal parts interesting, and terrifying. Following.

  • @slyfur
    @slyfur Год назад +2

    Excellent video and amazing production. This is a harbinger of things to come. Maybe it will be the force that finally collapses social media. :)

  • @KnoppixCg
    @KnoppixCg Год назад +1

    This is honestly/genuinely the best video I've seen in years. You earned my sub. Thank reddit

  • @ednevsky
    @ednevsky Год назад +1

    Amazing video man! Surprisingly well made. Went looking for more vids like this and didn't find any, keep going!

  • @halo2glitcherz
    @halo2glitcherz Год назад +9

    I really like the surreal vibes of this video. I've been messing with stable diffusion for random art projects and never thought about it being used like this. I think that's the great and scary thing about the coming AI revolution. It's going to change the way humans interact with the world in ways we could have never seen coming. Everyone is worried about deepfake politics but I'm more worried about the value of human creation. Is "human-made" going to be a descriptor of negative quality in the near future?

  • @SecuBot
    @SecuBot Год назад +2

    Fake life for a month, really great content for 10 minutes. Beautifull video, loved it.

  • @reedyma
    @reedyma Год назад +1

    Great idea, very creative project and so well done. Your video editing is top tier, retained my attention the entire 10 mins.
    A true injustice in the world, moreover on the internet, is that creative and bright talents like you, get overshadowed by soulless, vapid, useless media that somehow leaves you with less information than when you began.
    You deserve more.

  • @UltralightNerd
    @UltralightNerd Год назад +3

    Subscribed. Holy shit. What a fantastic art piece you have created. What a fantastic take on the current state of AI while simultaneously showing the humanity and lack thereof. I genuinely hope that you are doing well. It seems like you have a solid group of friends who care about you. Absolutely excellent video project and I hope that this leads to many more for you. Peace be the journey.

  • @RagnarRipper
    @RagnarRipper Год назад +1

    How fucking great are your friends?!?!
    Seriously, I mean, sure, great video and production quality. Clever idea, I LOVE it, but my god, those people are genuinely in love with you and that is SO great!!

    • @omgchomp
      @omgchomp Год назад

      we're all depressed just not fake our entire lives for a month depressed

    • @Ian-sm9uv
      @Ian-sm9uv Год назад

      @@omgchomp The deceit of friends and family is what makes me struggle with this video. I think Kyle's video is brilliant from a conceptual standpoint, but it's also clear from the reactions to the confession that his friends and family are concerned. It's hard to feel good about liking it when the people that care about Kyle are so seemingly worried.

  • @veo_
    @veo_ Год назад +3

    This is hilarious. After Lensa gate, I dove into the ai art world to figure out what was going on. It's fascinating and regularly blows my mind. I trained my own dreambooth model and have been posting ai content exclusively for about a week! I'm not really trying to to misrepresent my life online, just having a bit of fun, but I'm functionality doing the same thing you did! This is a trend. I wonder how many others are out there prompting their lives.
    Something interesting is that it's quelling my normal low-grade persistent body dysmorphia. It's like, since I know it's within my power to look EXACTLY how I want in a virtual context, I don't feel impulse to focus on superficial flaws in the real life context. So, maybe it's therapeutic?
    Such strange experiment. It is a lot of work though!

    • @Ultima2876
      @Ultima2876 Год назад

      What's lensa gate?

    • @veo_
      @veo_ Год назад +1

      @@Ultima2876 lensa app takes photos you supply and delivers ai-modified avatars. Lensa gate was the backlash and moral panic that followed.

  • @drikavel007
    @drikavel007 Год назад +3

    Dude this is literally like plot worth of movie

  • @erroneousbosch
    @erroneousbosch Год назад +5

    Damn, that was a journey. Thank you for sharing.

  • @chicken.productions
    @chicken.productions Год назад

    Dude. Your edit and this film is UNREAL. Why you only have 1.91K SUBSCRIBERS??????

  • @雪鷹魚英語培訓的領航

    Dang, this video is beautifully produced. Love your glowy typography and music choice and mooding color grading.

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад

      Those are my favorite parts of the video. Glad you picked up on that! Thanks!

  • @echocobo5582
    @echocobo5582 Год назад

    Man, this was really beautiful. So well put together, wonderfully shot, edited, written. the second to last bit setting up the shoot with your dog, with those choices of soundbites, was so touching.

  • @TheShaneBot
    @TheShaneBot Год назад

    I enjoyed this interesting social experiment done over a brief time - and in the end a social commentary. In particular a social commentary about social media and the unreality it has become.
    I didn't have the same take on it like some of your friends and family did at the end - or at least what the edited comments suggested - as a negative take on wasting your life or such or you were unhappy - but more like the guy who only ate McDonalds for a month - or some of the same such things.
    Enlightening, informative, and hopefully in the end not just a piss in the wind - but a seed planted.
    Thank You.

  • @Potatis1337
    @Potatis1337 Год назад +1

    This video, apart from the engaging story and storytelling, was excellent in its execution and production. I was glued to my screen from all the narrative shots and edits and cuts and effects, it was nuts. Great job!

  • @HepheistoBD
    @HepheistoBD Год назад +1

    Incredible production quality and editing! Your channel is going to blow up, if you keep putting out content like this.

  • @JMWRainwater
    @JMWRainwater Год назад +1

    First video of yours I've seen - instant subscribe.

  • @MatthewSmith-si8ks
    @MatthewSmith-si8ks Год назад +2

    1k subscribers, 5k views.. I am here early. Incredible video making skills!

  • @AIYOUTUBER842
    @AIYOUTUBER842 Год назад +1

    Super cool video and kinda terrifying haha. Great work!

  • @caseykin5407
    @caseykin5407 Год назад

    That was awesome. Thank you for connecting to your source and not what everyone else expects of you. 🙏

  • @cubansquare251
    @cubansquare251 Год назад +4

    Absolutely incredible work. Bravo!

  • @vanlifesagas
    @vanlifesagas Год назад

    This is probably the most terrifying and sad reality check of 2022 for the whole content creation / influencer industry. The comments on influencers being AI at the end, topped with the rendering scene in the last seconds gave me goosebumps… Simply brilliant.
    We are pouring our talent and basically our lives into those machines without really knowing why, and for how long.
    Props to a very well made and relevant piece of content (paradoxically).

  • @TheVagueIdeas
    @TheVagueIdeas Год назад +1

    awesome production on this! I wonder if this realization will be a boon or the death of influencers

  • @Moon_wazhere
    @Moon_wazhere Год назад +1

    Great work,I do feel this video is also still part of some project.

  • @thec-m
    @thec-m Год назад +1

    A well made video with an interesting idea. I was surprised to see so few videos on the channel.

  • @dddz961
    @dddz961 Год назад +2

    This is great. You deserve more subscribers.

  • @SilverHusky
    @SilverHusky Год назад +4

    The thesis of the video is incredibly interesting, and shows we're alreading in a dystopic present. When DeepFakes started, there still needed to be an actor to fake its content. But now all it is is a prompt with images fed into the algorithm. I hope that it remains a tool for artist, but it's for sure going to be used maliciously.

  • @JimPanse2
    @JimPanse2 Год назад +3

    That was incredibly well done. New subscriber gained! :D

  • @JoshJacksonSuperNovaKing
    @JoshJacksonSuperNovaKing Год назад +1

    I was let go from a job in Seattle and had to move back to Virginia. I am a video editor and motion graphics designer. Your story hits really close to home. I hope you can find little moments of peace :)

  • @MattXShaver
    @MattXShaver Год назад

    Came for the clickbait, stayed for the editing and storytelling. Fantastic job man, subscribed for more!

  • @slk468
    @slk468 Год назад +1

    You are INSANE! This is a masterpiece.

  • @kamille1040
    @kamille1040 Год назад

    this is insane! Amazing job, deserves 100 times the views really!

  • @austinmgold913
    @austinmgold913 Год назад +3

    I'm very glad to know you have in fact not moved back to Los Angeles

  • @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa2004
    @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa2004 Год назад +1

    God the editing and cinematography in this is incredible

  • @RichGilly
    @RichGilly Год назад +6

    Fantastic work, subbed. I hope you keep putting the time and effort into future videos... this could be a Nerdwriter-tier channel.

    • @omgchomp
      @omgchomp Год назад

      trust me...he will

  • @elizabethcarpenter6952
    @elizabethcarpenter6952 Год назад +3

    This video is honest to god EXCELLENT.

  • @thisisoff-grid2504
    @thisisoff-grid2504 Год назад +1

    Kyle! The production of this video is just incredible! I cant imagine how long it took you to make. But if you keep doing what you are doing, you will be huge on YT in no time.
    Also your gamer friend is hot, tell her the internet likes her and we want to see more of her in your videos :p

    • @omgchomp
      @omgchomp Год назад +2

      well gee whiz mister

  • @gloomndoom443
    @gloomndoom443 Год назад +1

    This is such a good video, insanely underrated!

  • @asmetanka
    @asmetanka Год назад

    Well, this is the first and one of the best sci-fi documentaries I ever watched!

  • @kappeyne
    @kappeyne Год назад

    Fantastically well done! The story line, pacing, editing, technical chops, and so much more. It's deep. I keep watching it and find something new in each turn. And a scary story it is!

  • @johanneskohler6246
    @johanneskohler6246 Год назад +1

    This was amazing kyle. You really entertained me so much & I even just signed into youtube to write this comment - never done this before haha I'm an editor too and love your storytelling! Please never stop making videos. ♥️

  • @Dalzik.
    @Dalzik. Год назад +1

    Very well made video.. feel like this could have been made into a longer documentary. Good job!

  • @FriendlyExmuslim
    @FriendlyExmuslim Год назад +1

    You made this point as a slam dunk

  • @TheSnuggelz
    @TheSnuggelz Год назад +1

    Honestly what an insightful video, imagine how easily things can be faked and used for propaganda. This is huge man great work, easily the most horrifying and hilarious video Ive ever seen, Rock on!

  • @ayukiba8715
    @ayukiba8715 Год назад +1

    Certified banger video. Good stuff Kyle, hope to see more from you in the future.

  • @trrisner37
    @trrisner37 Год назад +3

    Really well produced also the project itself must have taken so much time. Are you using outpainting in these clips where your changing the face or something? Any this was all really interesting and well done and enjoyable to watch

    • @kylevorbach
      @kylevorbach  Год назад +1

      I was using a lot of inpainting (generated a base photo of a man, then replaced his face with mine) and also a lot of IMG2IMG to both upscale and give variations until it looked "right"