How WhatsApp Makes Money: The INSANE Story of WhatsApp

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  • How Does WhatsApp Make Money? - The INSANE Story of WhatsApp!
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    How Does WhatsApp REALLY Make Money?
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    00:00 Prologue
    00:36 2009 - The Birth of WhatsApp
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Комментарии • 5 тыс.

  • @MagnatesMedia
    @MagnatesMedia  2 года назад +973

    This is the first episode in a new series on this channel, "Crazy But True: Business Stories That Feel Like Movies". It tells the full story of WhatsApp, but framed around one key question: How Does WhatsApp REALLY Make Money? I hope you enjoy. 😁
    EDIT: Wow, thank you for all the comments & support! Just wanna address some concerns that I saw a couple of people ask:
    1. "Are you sponsored by Signal?" No. I am in no way affiliated with Signal whatsoever, and don't even have the app myself. There are lots of other alternatives to Signal, I only mentioned it because it seemed to have very positive perceptions in online privacy communities (plus it's part of the story, since it was created by the original WhatsApp founder).
    2. "Why are you advertising a VPN?" - A VPN is not some magic pill to all privacy issues, but personally I believe you're better to have a VPN (from a trusted provider) than not. But you don't necessarily NEED one; you can research it and decide for yourself. They didn't pay me to say anything (I just used an affiliate link in the description to an established VPN).
    3. "There's nothing wrong with Whatsapp" - Whatsapp IS a great service. If you go to the end of the video, you'll see that I do say MOST companies collect your data for all kinds of reasons. For many people, continuing to use WhatsApp is totally fine. Really, it comes down to how much you trust Facebook. Clearly the original founders don't, but I am not saying you need to delete Whatsapp. I just think its worth being aware of the story behind it all. I hope you enjoy!
    New videos like this coming soon!

    • @markkukeskioja
      @markkukeskioja 2 года назад +9

      Incredible.

    • @burhankhaja746
      @burhankhaja746 2 года назад +10

      Nice video man

    • @indieshd
      @indieshd 2 года назад +9

      Your job is great

    • @flyyygurll3427
      @flyyygurll3427 2 года назад +18

      I enjoyed everything about what I just watched; from the content, to the editing, sound. Great quality all around! Keep up the great work I'm newly subscribed and here for the long haul John!

    • @creativegamemaster6807
      @creativegamemaster6807 2 года назад +9

      I like the phrase frame around once one single question

  • @byazrov
    @byazrov 2 года назад +4658

    It's an incredible talent to explain a whole 30-seconds concept in just 30 minutes.

    • @antoniong1449
      @antoniong1449 2 года назад +305

      😂🤣😂 You really made my day!

    • @mjmulenga3
      @mjmulenga3 2 года назад +357

      Why use three words when seventeen will suffice? 😂

    • @nakamura256
      @nakamura256 2 года назад +223

      And 10 minutes more just because of ads

    • @TeraGreene1
      @TeraGreene1 2 года назад +147

      You win the comments today 😂

    • @omp365
      @omp365 2 года назад +60

      can you spell nuance?

  • @techrisemedia
    @techrisemedia 2 года назад +4739

    "if you're not paying for the product you are the product" so true

    • @PuraMukura
      @PuraMukura 2 года назад +123

      Nothing is free..Only Oxygen is free provided by God.

    • @csn6234
      @csn6234 2 года назад +100

      @@PuraMukura that's not true. I pay for every breath I take.

    • @conniethesconnie
      @conniethesconnie 2 года назад +33

      I worked for a company which used WhatsApp for communication. It was how company memo's were handed down. Where schedules were posted. We were coerced into downloading the app and by proxy granting Facebook the ability to datamine.

    • @mariano7699
      @mariano7699 2 года назад +16

      @@PuraMukura : and who's God pantheon ?

    • @Lucas-zb2wg
      @Lucas-zb2wg 2 года назад +16

      @@csn6234 go off grid, live in the woods. No one stops you.

  • @BMoSuave
    @BMoSuave Год назад +85

    I have watched so many of these documentaries today and I can't stop. These are so well produced and thorough, please don't stop making these!!

    • @picklesdjango1701
      @picklesdjango1701 2 месяца назад +1

      Vote Trump Or we are FINISHED

    • @picklesdjango1701
      @picklesdjango1701 2 месяца назад

      Vote TRUMP or we are Finished

    • @BMoSuave
      @BMoSuave 2 месяца назад

      Aint gotta tell me twice 👌🏼​@picklesdjango3537

    • @spike8555
      @spike8555 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@picklesdjango1701 american politics 😂

  • @funocity-official
    @funocity-official Год назад +241

    "protect privacy" is something near impossible in this era

    • @realabusivedad
      @realabusivedad Год назад +3

      but linux is better

    • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
      @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked Год назад

      :D The Pledge Of Allegiance only states "republic", and it's clear as day that so-called "voting" (puppet system) doesn't change a law. Too many dumb people calling America a democracy.

    • @funocity-official
      @funocity-official Год назад

      @@realabusivedad the reason i modify ubuntu creating fence from attackers

    • @t-yoonit
      @t-yoonit Год назад +12

      Yeah, these days it's not a matter of if your data will be harvested/stolen, it's when.

    • @imuwe
      @imuwe 11 месяцев назад +7

      You said it right: "near impossible". You can at least make it harder for them to invade 😉

  • @davidespingel1223
    @davidespingel1223 2 года назад +2807

    Same people who are concerned with privacy have no issues having Alexa in their home.

    • @gfdia35
      @gfdia35 2 года назад +173

      Speak for yourself, I'll never er have an assistant...... Ever

    • @fredrik1337
      @fredrik1337 2 года назад +87

      Well ironically I made the switch to Signal when the news hit, but i still just assume that my chrome browser and android phone records the shit out of me and it is unstoppable unless you do the offgrid homestead thing...

    • @GunwantBhambra
      @GunwantBhambra 2 года назад +35

      @@fredrik1337 lets all make private internet like cuba underground intranet

    • @PatrackMuyambo
      @PatrackMuyambo 2 года назад +58

      Alexa will get confused in Africa 😂😂😂

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow 2 года назад +2

      They do?

  • @zohrebrown
    @zohrebrown 2 года назад +721

    It's not the moral question about sharing our own data - it's the immorality of WhatsApp collecting other people's data through my phone without my or their consent.
    This is what the EU data protection legislation was about.

    • @cjay2
      @cjay2 Год назад +16

      They lied.

    • @asaiya705
      @asaiya705 Год назад +67

      you most likely gave your consent in the agreement you most likely didn't read and accept

    • @Fingeroo
      @Fingeroo Год назад +21

      @@asaiya705 Hypocrisy, you didn’t read what OP said.

    • @paullangton-rogers2390
      @paullangton-rogers2390 Год назад +27

      True, and good point you make. The problem is the US doesn't have such stringent data protection privacy laws and regulaton over companies and orgs as we have in Europe which makes it totally illegal to collect and use peoples private data, unless you're transparent about that, registered and authorised to do it by the government, and crucially give people the right to see what data you're holding and using...and of course, the right to have your data deleted at any time.
      That seems to be lacking with big US tech firms, even though they're operating in the EU marketplace. Perhaps the EU need to address this issue and force big US tech firms to register for data handling and follow our data privacy laws.

    • @Tesla_Iive2023-
      @Tesla_Iive2023- Год назад +25

      You made the consent when installing their app. Most people don't even take time read it.

  • @vickyzesu
    @vickyzesu 3 месяца назад +8

    “If you are not paying for the product, YOU are the product.”
    Wow this was eye opening. As a content creator (TikTok, IG, RUclips) I have no choice but to not care about my privacy. I’m in too deep.

  • @raqeebaismail3557
    @raqeebaismail3557 3 месяца назад +6

    very true. my sister and i were speaking about a product which she didnt even search for but it came up as an advert on her social media. since then we were like ''is our phones listening to our convos as well''

    • @hey_kudisco_podcast
      @hey_kudisco_podcast Месяц назад +1

      Not only that. They know what you're typing. I've got targeted ads for things I wrote in my notes app even.

    • @BohemothWatts-vz1lc
      @BohemothWatts-vz1lc 5 дней назад

      Please research Nicky Hagar"s THE GLOBAL SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM. Even your heartbeat is being hacked.

  • @Anita95_original
    @Anita95_original 2 года назад +260

    "free" is dangerous since you loose control. If you pay for something you can make demands about the product...

    • @joshuadickerson1902
      @joshuadickerson1902 2 года назад +3

      You can make demands with free. You just sounds like an ass when you do. But who cares but the person proposing free. They are still selling to you.

    • @johnappleseed6525
      @johnappleseed6525 2 года назад +10

      Thats wrong. Microsoft’s software is paid buy they still sell you and ur data. The only solution is to switch to freedom respecting software. The Free (as in Freedom) and Open Source Software is the solution. The Free Software foundation is the solution.

    • @liamburns8554
      @liamburns8554 2 года назад +5

      Hmm. Often not true in the modern age. I pay for LinkedIn, Microsoft outlook. No communication, customer service or any type of engagement. My whole depends on both of these and I can never have a conversation with them never mind demands

    • @sergicalcantara
      @sergicalcantara 2 года назад +2

      @@liamburns8554 how does paying for LinkedIn benefit one if I may ask? As far as I know it’s for professionals to get contacted, or contact other people who work for other companies, etc. like a Facebook for résumés. So what do you actually pay for, and how is it beneficial?

    • @liamburns8554
      @liamburns8554 2 года назад +4

      @@sergicalcantaraRecruitment. Can't do recruitment in the modern age without it. There are various subscription plans

  • @wassup102
    @wassup102 2 года назад +681

    Absolute masterpiece brother🙂
    I'm out of words to explain how insane the editing and Storytelling is! It's crazy and I'm honoured to be one of your oldest subs.
    Love from India, Have a nice day John.

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  2 года назад +81

      Thank you for sticking with the channel so long man, it really does mean a lot. Have an awesome day brother!

    • @tavongaishemaunganidze5
      @tavongaishemaunganidze5 2 года назад +1

      Fa

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl Год назад

      just that ists far from reality and truth.
      they care about privacy ?
      rofl, so how comes they had no encryption for ages?
      and now it is the biggest and deepest data grabber there is?`
      no, this is all nonsense.

    • @petermccavington8232
      @petermccavington8232 Месяц назад +1

      Paid response. There’s no way you like the video that much. It's an OK video. However the video doesn't provide any information that most people aren't aware of.

  • @Bablojavan
    @Bablojavan 5 месяцев назад +25

    I love the storytelling, the script, the animations. But most all the narrator's pronunciation of words at the end of every sentence. I'm definitely subscribing and telling the world about this channel ❤❤

  • @jedimindtrix2142
    @jedimindtrix2142 9 месяцев назад +39

    When it comes to privacy I, as a 36 year old have really never known "true privacy" since I hit my early to mid 20s. When I was a kid in the mid to late 90s....privacy was still possible. However as my generation came of age and algorithms became king privacy started to become something that "used to be." I don't really see much of an issue here as a regular person. However if I were running a big enough business or if I was working on very secretive projects I certainly would want to be much more careful with my information. It all comes down to each individual what we deem acceptable for ourselves in terms of privacy and risk.

    • @v00n2000
      @v00n2000 4 месяца назад +2

      I have been using ad blockers for years, so never see any targeted advertisements that they fight so hard to give me.
      Heigh ho.

  • @euphoric8447
    @euphoric8447 2 года назад +182

    I never made comments about how underrated a channel but this will be my first. The video quality blew my mind and you kept me hooked till the end. I really do hope you get the recognition you deserves one day.

  • @RobertoBlake
    @RobertoBlake 2 года назад +431

    I have a funny feeling this is going to get more views.

    • @libremercadoencrisiseconom2118
      @libremercadoencrisiseconom2118 2 года назад

      what's up checkmark?

    • @thesupremeleaderofcorn8679
      @thesupremeleaderofcorn8679 2 года назад +1

      why's that? the outage has already ended

    • @sandmann6851
      @sandmann6851 2 года назад

      @@thesupremeleaderofcorn8679 what do you mean by outage?

    • @KING-365
      @KING-365 2 года назад +1

      If the gold slinger, Roberto Blake, is here too, then I must be watching a really good video.🤛🏾😎 I have the same feeling as well.

    • @thesupremeleaderofcorn8679
      @thesupremeleaderofcorn8679 2 года назад +6

      @@sandmann6851 well Facebook had a massive server outage where NONE of its services worked; like Instagram, Messenger, or Facebook itself

  • @BeardedKenyan
    @BeardedKenyan Год назад +32

    What annoys me is that there is no option to pay.
    I would gladly pay for a RUclips, Google or Facebook that does not collect my data but that simply does not exist.

    • @luisiglesias5248
      @luisiglesias5248 2 месяца назад +8

      They collect your data to predict your future decisions based on your past decisions and in order to influence your choice, not only commercially but political and socially

    • @tlhogid663
      @tlhogid663 23 дня назад +2

      You cannot afford the present value of future profits they will earn from having you on the free version!

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 20 дней назад

      They'd do it and still take your money.

    • @SiroMartini
      @SiroMartini 17 дней назад

      It does exist for Meta, at least in Europe.

  • @lisaschuster686
    @lisaschuster686 Год назад +3

    I’ve never used FaceBook, and everyone thinks I’m dead. It’s wonderful.

  • @JordanBrotherInJesus
    @JordanBrotherInJesus Год назад +168

    You've made some very good videos here. Thanks for taking your time to do the research, editing, and overall scripting of this. Genuinely impressed!

  • @gavinguitar2194
    @gavinguitar2194 Год назад +138

    I have never used Facebook, Instagram. Have used Whats app recently. Will seriously consider using Signal in the future after watching this video. A fair & well presented overview of content, privacy & profiling. Looking forward to more on this subject from this channel.

    • @coldfilter
      @coldfilter Год назад +6

      Obviously you use Google!

    • @efxnews4776
      @efxnews4776 Год назад +4

      Yeah but what good this would actually do?
      In my country we use WhatsApp for absolutely everything, theres no way people would be able to switch to Signal, no matter how good or honest it is.
      The app is too useful is simple as that.

    • @alicelong3613
      @alicelong3613 Год назад +7

      Signal isn’t clean

    • @Fred-zk3wv
      @Fred-zk3wv Год назад +12

      @Sarah Nothing is clean in this world. It's a matter of which one is the lesser evil.

    • @The-Perfect1
      @The-Perfect1 Год назад +3

      @@coldfilter and RUclips!

  • @andrewdubois8653
    @andrewdubois8653 Год назад +44

    Gotta say man, you and your team put together videos so well. So much thought, so many details that I wouldn't even doubt you missed any. Thank you for this, another push for me to delete my Facebook. Im a new subscriber but damn I wish I found your content sooner! Thank you
    Downloading Signal right now 🙌

    • @andrewdubois8653
      @andrewdubois8653 Год назад +2

      Ps. I thought my sisters were crazy for fb collecting data on some of my other searches... turns out they were right cause I'm seeing the Prepac 64 shelf everywhere over Facebook and Instagram now.. anyways. Thank you, so much

    • @t-yoonit
      @t-yoonit Год назад

      ​@@andrewdubois8653 it's not Facebook. It's Google's ad service. Google is collecting your data and using that information to target ads on any website that uses Google ad service.

  • @EdwinWade
    @EdwinWade Год назад +12

    You’ve made really incredible videos and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed them. The amount of research you put into them is pretty incredible. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @shamrozanjum
    @shamrozanjum 2 года назад +29

    Very well said "If yo are not paying for the Product, You are the product"

  • @h8rsbeware496
    @h8rsbeware496 2 года назад +389

    Ironic that we are watching this on the second biggest survallience network xD
    Nice video, I look foward to the future of you work.

    • @somedude0921
      @somedude0921 2 года назад +10

      RUclips isnt really a survallince network, google is

    • @RogerH_CxP
      @RogerH_CxP 2 года назад +56

      @@somedude0921 and RUclips is part of Google, so what you mean?

    • @joesr31
      @joesr31 2 года назад +13

      @@somedude0921 google owns youtube sooo...

    • @learnmore9657
      @learnmore9657 2 года назад +2

      And we like it ❤️

    • @shabbyofficial_
      @shabbyofficial_ 2 года назад +12

      @@RogerH_CxP he ain't reply to that u got his ass 😂

  • @slimyelow
    @slimyelow 7 месяцев назад +30

    I have been using the internet since 1995 and I am sure my stupid data is all over the place. In 2023, has this in any way shape of form changed anything for me? The answer is absolutely fooking no.

    • @gussampson5029
      @gussampson5029 Месяц назад +9

      Yeah but what they're really doing is making lists of who will be a compliant slave and who is willing to fight tyranny. That way they can purge all of the fighters in the first 72 hours and hunt down the few remaining ones while the compliant slaves just look on stunned and fearful. That's by far the most useful application of user data to those who desire money, power and control.

    • @herewegoagain7135
      @herewegoagain7135 24 дня назад

      Paranoid?​@@gussampson5029

  • @alexludwig9099
    @alexludwig9099 Год назад +13

    I think the main controversy with selling data is WHAT data theyre selling. If I am just an anonymous person and all theyre doing is saying to companies "we will advertise to people in this age range with this income level in these parts of the world" then I dont see the harm in them having my data. In fact it caters to me because it helps me find things I may actually be interested in buying. But, if facebook starts selling truly personal data outside of demographics, like my name, email, phone number, etc etc then theyve gone too far. I should be a member of a target audience for advertising, not a product for them to sell.

    • @lone982
      @lone982 6 месяцев назад +5

      Just assume they are selling more than they tell you...basically everything

    • @fairyprincess911
      @fairyprincess911 6 месяцев назад

      We have always been the product whether to market to in order to entice to buy or, now, as consumable goods we have become since our metrics are being bought and sold. We are slaves at the market and most don’t realize…🥸

  • @chrisbarry9345
    @chrisbarry9345 Год назад +42

    The only problem I have with personalized ads is how careful you have to be about what you click on. I was curious about ONE unique product on Facebook now I'm hounded by things in the same category on RUclips which supposedly is not connected

    • @kehedID
      @kehedID 3 месяца назад +1

      Do you use google keyboard or android phone by any chance?

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 3 месяца назад +1

      i do that keyboard is just too useful from built in translation and voice typing and other useful features @@kehedID

    • @Ned-bw5tt
      @Ned-bw5tt 3 месяца назад

      @kahedid 😳

    • @WildHorizon
      @WildHorizon 2 месяца назад

      My boyfriend and I have started to notice too how well say something and anywhere within the next few minutes to an hour or so- we’ll get bombarded with ads that day about the thing I talked about which is so strange.
      It’s kinda become a game to see how much we can point out.
      Anytime I talk about a Spanish coworker I get ads in Spanish, if I talk about a name brand thing I’ll get an ad for that thing, if I talk about my job when I get home from work I get not just dental ads- but specifically for the field I’m in. Or my boyfriend’s field. Or if we talk about going on a trip, for the next few days to weeks we’ll get ads about whole a** states and countries and it’s like wtf I didn’t even know they made an ad for Iowa, why tf does Iowa need an add.. (this one could be coincidental because of how common these ads are but, but we’ve started to notice every time we say “you hungry?” “I could eat” our normal responses.. if we’re on Hulu unless it just went on commercial it will go to commercial within 30 seconds and ALWAYS show a food restaurant. I mean literally without fail, we’ve started stopping after we ask that and stare at the TV and watch and count, it’s like a game that’s super terrifying in the back of your mind.)

    • @luisiglesias5248
      @luisiglesias5248 2 месяца назад

      And what about the political and social movements they want to promote? We all are classified and managed according to our ideologies and the social change they want to do...

  • @TonyTCTN
    @TonyTCTN 2 года назад +857

    holy crap what a video
    eye opening
    thanks for creating this

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  2 года назад +29

      Wow - thanks for the support man!

    • @temptemp217
      @temptemp217 2 года назад +13

      @@voxfox01 I meeaan, collecting data just for the sake of improving advertising doesn't sound too bad. But what happens when a person becomes the goverment's enemy?..

    • @tristantriscuit9146
      @tristantriscuit9146 2 года назад +2

      Same thank you

    • @malnir643
      @malnir643 2 года назад

      Don't tell me you didn't know this

    • @AnalogDude_
      @AnalogDude_ 2 года назад +1

      someone on RUclips said, that in his school at the time of startup they where handing out pamphlets to join Facebook.
      Facebook inc = fishy. there is something not right here. but hard to proof.

  • @walds
    @walds 5 месяцев назад +4

    Your videos are so well made! I'm watching quite a bit. Thanks for sharing the knowledge and studies and the hard work. Keep it up! Cheers from Brazil!

  • @faustinoelia965
    @faustinoelia965 8 месяцев назад +4

    I really love this channel just like James Jani ,they are long and very entertaining where you just keep watching and don't even realise the video is over.keep the great work bro ,more blessings to you

  • @CDGMR1
    @CDGMR1 2 года назад +40

    Most start with “good intentions”. Once money start coming in, morals goes out the window.

    • @haggai3.477
      @haggai3.477 Год назад +2

      Sadly, the contents of A Man's Heart are HIS MOTIVES & MOTIVES ARE WHAT DRIVE ACTIONS.

  • @grinch7074
    @grinch7074 Год назад +25

    The question that WE ALL need to be asking is, " If I'm the product, then where is MY compensation?!?! " Facebook, what's App, and all the others need to PAY UP!

    • @theBGCsatire
      @theBGCsatire Год назад +6

      It will never happen as long as so many people volunteer to be the product for free

    • @Scion141
      @Scion141 Год назад +6

      Pay what? You get to use their app for free.

    • @aweoak7763
      @aweoak7763 7 месяцев назад

      Many PPL believe that anything "free" is good. It's so engrained in the psyche that they don't see their own value -except being a cog in a wheel.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi Месяц назад

      @@Scion141 but it's not even, that's like paying 100k for a 20 year old used Hyundai

  • @teresakestran3637
    @teresakestran3637 Год назад +2

    Great video… well done! Thank you for increasing awareness.❤

  • @spiritfilled2589
    @spiritfilled2589 Год назад +1

    Totally glad I subscribed!! Thank you so much for your research and information for the good of humanity. Things we never would have given thought of

  • @TheComputec
    @TheComputec Год назад +337

    I think the only thing that would teach the monopoly tech giants a massive lesson and allow people to take control again would be if there was a co-ordinated switch off by users around the world. I mean a universal account cancellation for a whole year... But it will never happen. Most people are oblivious to the peril of big data and how it guides and shapes consumer decisions and opinions... They just love the ease and convenience and connectivity and don't care enough

    • @Imissthefuhrer
      @Imissthefuhrer Год назад +34

      Yeah, even the ancient romans knew all you have to do is give the masses bread and circus, and they will never revolt.

    • @pauls3204
      @pauls3204 Год назад +2

      You don’t live all around the world
      People the planet over use this service as it is more or less free , all they need is a hotspot

    • @user-tx8un4is9l
      @user-tx8un4is9l Год назад +6

      Actually in my country we don't even have services that allow you to pay by the internet, we solely depend on free apps and it is has huge impact on our communities, so that would never happen because we don't have substitutes.

    • @TheComputec
      @TheComputec Год назад +8

      @@user-tx8un4is9lWhat did people do before the internet?

    • @efxnews4776
      @efxnews4776 Год назад +11

      Buddy don't be childish, you won't be able to convince even 10% of users, people know that facebook is evil, but they don't have a choice, i can switch to Signal right now but what good this would do? I would be alone without no one to talk about, or anything to do, you guys need to be realistic and face the problem here.
      Billions of people use WhatsApp daily for everything, even to pay their bill the system simply is too useful and too valuable to be switched.
      Also what platform would be used to propagate Signal or other platform? Even to this people use WhatsApp.
      Truth is the only way to make a full switch you need to stop the whole system for at least a weak, im talking about basically blow up all servers used by Facebook, possibly even some satellites a supercomputers.
      Or then wait for Suckerborg make a mistake like add ad's directly into the chat, this would at some point get so annoying that people would definitely switch to other platforms.

  • @sleepywolf1533
    @sleepywolf1533 2 года назад +996

    Insane. You'll blow up soon. Keep at it!

    • @lequidsnake
      @lequidsnake 2 года назад +17

      I’ll just like it for the editing. Story is good whether it’s entirety true or not.

    • @sleepywolf1533
      @sleepywolf1533 2 года назад +8

      @@rafaellima381 You good? You probably wasted more time writing this comment lmao

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  2 года назад +20

      Wow thanks for the support Sleepy Wolf - great channel yourself!

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  2 года назад +24

      @Rafael Lima - with this channel I'm not really trying to just answer questions, I'm also trying to tell stories and make mini-documentaries. This video is the story of Whatsapp - the question of how they make money is just one (key) part of that. So if you are only looking for short simple answers, this is probably not the right channel for you. But I do think it's very unfair to say that the whole thing can be summarised as 'whatsapp doesn't make money' - that's really not true at all. Its certainly more complex than that.

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  2 года назад +13

      Wise words - thanks man!

  • @ojiekaoko134
    @ojiekaoko134 Год назад +1

    He was talking about how whatsapp didn't like ads, then youtube played me an ad. It's the disrespect for me

  • @itsinc4596
    @itsinc4596 Год назад +5

    My life is very uninteresting, I got nothing to hide

  • @trueriver1950
    @trueriver1950 2 года назад +308

    If Zuckerburg believed his business was ethical he would be much much more forthcoming about what he does

    • @FranzAllanSee
      @FranzAllanSee 2 года назад +13

      He was never about being ethical though

    • @aol860
      @aol860 2 года назад +7

      Seriously..how did Zuckerberg get Facebook again, Integrity may allude FB dictionary 🙄

    • @inbetween8210
      @inbetween8210 2 года назад +15

      Not a single person would've made it to the top by being ethical, seriously, by quashing facebook, there will be more ruthless persons to fill that place, it's our evil system, driven by greed, enabling that kind of people to thrieve, and even if someone is starting by being ethical, they'll soon be forced to be ruthless just to survive.

    • @aol860
      @aol860 2 года назад +6

      @@inbetween8210 lol are you Zuckerburg...he doesn't have an original idea in his head he is what is commonly know as a opportunist...riding on the back of others...pathetic really 🤣 😉

    • @inbetween8210
      @inbetween8210 2 года назад +9

      @@aol860 and so did Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, or even your idol that Elon boii, trust me it's not the ideas that matters, it's how you could ruthlessly executed them to fruition.

  • @tinodamatewe6400
    @tinodamatewe6400 2 года назад +336

    😁😁😁 funny how you ended this video with, "This channel has lots more videos you can watch totally FREE"... If you are not paying for the product, you are the product

    • @Harith5
      @Harith5 2 года назад +8

      Damn! 😂 😱

    • @sammy_dee
      @sammy_dee 2 года назад +4

      You are paying with watching ads... its not totally free as the video was talking about Whatsapp... you need to use ur brain before opening ur mouth my dumb friend

    • @gavintantleff
      @gavintantleff 2 года назад +15

      @@sammy_dee 1) they were making a joke
      2) stop being such an asshole bro “my dumb friend” even if you’re right you just come off so rude

    • @shayforever2688
      @shayforever2688 2 года назад +4

      @@sammy_dee go sit down somewhere

    • @swaytannic1179
      @swaytannic1179 2 года назад +1

      Tiri kushandiswa

  • @kggangsta
    @kggangsta Год назад +2

    I'm amazed at how your editing matches the videoclips with audio

  • @williamxchau
    @williamxchau 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great Video! Informative and riveting and also very possibly, life changing.

  • @yeladim10
    @yeladim10 2 года назад +26

    Ends video - "more videos like this - absolutely free". Aha - so this means that we are the PRODUCT of this channel.

    • @s1d3k1ckRO
      @s1d3k1ckRO 2 года назад +3

      Well I had a couple of ads during the video.

  • @Girry_
    @Girry_ 2 года назад +11

    So much smartness, creativity and skill in creating this video. It's crazy. Whoever did this deserves everything.

  • @MrStrictlykush
    @MrStrictlykush 7 месяцев назад +1

    You make the most awesome videos. I started watching you the past few days that I started to skip forensic files I like how you get all your research done and make it very interesting to learn about. I can’t wait to see more videos.

  • @djpete2009
    @djpete2009 6 месяцев назад

    Insane!!! Brilliant stuff, well done.

  • @NicholasGuccione
    @NicholasGuccione 2 года назад +11

    Data collection for advertising is secondary. The real investors to Facebook and other platforms, are Government agencies like the NSA, DOD, CIA, FBI and Homeland Security. Guaranteed.

  • @landonlee9615
    @landonlee9615 2 года назад +36

    Banger after banger! Taking inspiration from you every time you upload. Seriously, Excellent work and even better editing

  • @terryhall818
    @terryhall818 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video thanks for making👍

  • @sirensignalmedia
    @sirensignalmedia 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great information and as an experienced editor, you truly did it a amazing job. Much respect for this great work.❤❤❤keep up the good work!

  • @bren3155
    @bren3155 2 года назад +6

    Its mind boggling to me how many people I guess have simply forgotten that there phone is also a ... phone... remember text messages and phone calls?

  • @nexx410
    @nexx410 2 года назад +347

    It's hard to get others to switch from whats app to something else. I don't necessarily think using data is bad but we can make a contious choice to not give one company all the power.

    • @chilesauce7248
      @chilesauce7248 2 года назад +6

      I use Tee
      Logramos and Signal I asked my clients and friends to chance over and they have. Sadly people still keep WhatsApp on their devices.

    • @venomous_zxs5493
      @venomous_zxs5493 Год назад

      @@chilesauce7248 what clients?

    • @venomous_zxs5493
      @venomous_zxs5493 Год назад

      @@chilesauce7248 ur crazy

    • @lucaskp16
      @lucaskp16 Год назад +5

      @@chilesauce7248 ofc they do. because most people use it and you dont have a choice. if you wanna reach them. even people that dont use any social media have wp. and what is the alternative SMS? (cringe) or even worse a sudden call?

    • @chilesauce7248
      @chilesauce7248 Год назад +4

      @@lucaskp16 Ya don't know much, there are several alternatives, I use two of them. And so do many people, in fact in some countries Telegram is more popular than wasapp, and Signal is widely used.

  • @madhukuntawala1241
    @madhukuntawala1241 10 месяцев назад

    Wow! Thank you for opening our eyes!

  • @florissol
    @florissol 2 года назад +53

    I haven't spotted any misinformation in here, which really makes my day. The quality of this video is incredible and I love that you included the part at the end to show the positive side of personalized advertisements.

    • @johnboylan3832
      @johnboylan3832 Год назад

      'Misinformation' lol.

    • @chatryna
      @chatryna Год назад

      lol

    • @florissol
      @florissol Год назад +3

      @@johnboylan3832 These types of videos often have loads of misinformation and offer only one perspective on a certain situation.

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Год назад

      @@florissol that’s not the word to use, it’s disinformation. Intentionally spreading only one side of the story is almost exclusively the intent. You don’t intentionally make a short documentary and miss half the story.

  • @Patrick-ic4fs
    @Patrick-ic4fs 2 года назад +143

    This video was more entertaining than a Netflix episode of whatever🤭. You earned my Sub and millions of others to come👊

  • @yokai_G
    @yokai_G 3 дня назад

    Absolutely in love with this channel 😍. Great material, presentation, quality work 😍 🎉

  • @juliemccabe6061
    @juliemccabe6061 11 месяцев назад

    Great video, I'm really enjoying your channel. I love the text graphics in this one too.

  • @Eliphas_Leary
    @Eliphas_Leary 2 года назад +40

    "There ain't no such thing as a free meal." Keep that in mind when using non-open-source "freeware". And of course whenever a websites asks if you want a cookie.

    • @militarytoy3563
      @militarytoy3563 2 года назад +5

      Don't eat that fucking cookie! It's poisoned! dont fucking eat it man!!

    • @militarytoy3563
      @militarytoy3563 2 года назад +4

      Listen, dude... It's not worth it. Just don't eat that fucking cookie!!!!!!

    • @militarytoy3563
      @militarytoy3563 2 года назад +2

      Look man, I know it's been a week since my last comments. But please, don't eat that cookie.. It's not even delicious. So what's the fucking point

    • @conrado.
      @conrado. 2 года назад

      @@militarytoy3563 you are funny.

  • @senpaiii55
    @senpaiii55 2 года назад +9

    I found your page only about 20mins ago, and I'm already in love with your content. A true eye opening video with brilliant presentation, keep the gear up man! 👏

  • @nickrobinson938
    @nickrobinson938 Год назад

    Quality content in every single video. I am so amazed at how much knowledge you are turning out. Things that are shaping the world, but most importantly, our lives. Thanks for posting.

  • @CC-qg6zl
    @CC-qg6zl 6 месяцев назад

    I had Signal...
    Just downloaded the app again.
    God bless this good hearted , ethical man.
    Thank you Mr. ACTON.
    UTTER RESPECT TO YOU.

  • @WannaComment2
    @WannaComment2 Год назад +153

    I'm surprised he was even allowed to make Signal at all. Usually, when you make a sale like this, the contract includes a non-competition clause that makes it illegal for you to just turn around and use the money to make a new identical business.

    • @koreano3750
      @koreano3750 Год назад +23

      I guess they knew Signal would never be a threatening competition

    • @lopwidth7343
      @lopwidth7343 Год назад +11

      Im thinking it's a marketing ploy to fool the likes of EU should they ever end up on monopoly charges again

    • @quekumber
      @quekumber Год назад +1

      Signal was allowed to rise. It was compromised by the US government

    •  Год назад +7

      maybe it doesn't apply to non-profits...

    • @efxnews4776
      @efxnews4776 Год назад +3

      Non profitable...

  • @undergroundo
    @undergroundo 2 года назад +4

    Things that have not happened in the 20 years or so of me using the internet:
    1. Me worrying about my "data" being used (other than my passwords).
    2. Me clicking on a single ad.
    3. Me getting into any trouble.
    Still, not a week goes by without me hearing the vague and unconcrete warning: "If you give your data away... WHO KNOWS what they can do with it....". I know EXACTLY what they can do with ti: Show me personalized ads. Which I don't click on.

    • @v00n2000
      @v00n2000 4 месяца назад +1

      Use a good blocker and never see another ad again.

    • @GBPaddling
      @GBPaddling 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes, none of it matters........right up until the moment it DOES matter, and then it will be way too late. Find out what the 'Digital Prison' is. Did you learn the lessons of the PayPal/Canadian Truckers scandal?

    • @undergroundo
      @undergroundo 3 месяца назад

      ​@@GBPaddlingwhat was that scandal about?

  • @kizz.Commented
    @kizz.Commented 3 месяца назад

    A well made Documentary Magnates, well done, you have another Subscriber. Thumbed.😁

  • @danielford2424
    @danielford2424 4 месяца назад

    Outstanding video. Thank you.

  • @alok.01
    @alok.01 2 года назад +78

    Just implement a feature to chat cross platform, just like how email works. I recently heard the EU is planning to impose that rule and I hope it does and everyone follows. There might be drawbacks (maybe) but it would make switching much easier

    • @lopwidth7343
      @lopwidth7343 Год назад +3

      Back when MSN messenger was defacto, it was actually proposed to do the same, and the XMPP was born

    • @SeCluDred
      @SeCluDred Год назад +2

      But how may that help? First person using whatsapp, second signal... and still data (based on messages) could be collecting by whatsapp.

  • @Harshnaren007
    @Harshnaren007 2 года назад +38

    WhatsApp will always be used because it’s the impact it created, people can’t go back once something better comes

    • @qpSubZeroqp
      @qpSubZeroqp 2 года назад +7

      It's also because a lot of people have it and having to download ANOTHER application just to use for one specific person isn't something people want to do

    • @33Jenesis
      @33Jenesis 2 года назад +2

      @@qpSubZeroqp true that. I use LINE, which is popular in Asia. One of my best friends will not use LINE like the rest of our friend group. I won’t download WhatsApp after being asked by acquaintances who use it. I don’t want another texting app for people not family or close friends.

    • @qpSubZeroqp
      @qpSubZeroqp 2 года назад +2

      @@33Jenesis I agree with your reasoning

    • @loveisthething
      @loveisthething 2 года назад

      I'm without it for a year now. You don't miss a thing. Everybody can reach me through SMS or signal.

  • @Element4ry
    @Element4ry Год назад +17

    It's double edged sword. Compromised privacy perhaps does help people to stay in contact, run businesses, do whatever they are doing, even perhaps it may help to catch some criminals and bad guys in some extreme cases - but it also allows for control over masses in the grand scheme of things. At this point it's moral conundrum whatever it's ultimately a good or bad thing to have. But still the main point is, that everyone should decide for themselves if they want that. It is great to have and watch such movie, as well as other ones on this channel, great work!

  • @med6399
    @med6399 3 месяца назад

    Well presented!🎖🎖🎖Thank you!😎😎😎

  • @PaulMarcX
    @PaulMarcX 2 года назад +49

    I love this. So accurate on many levels, interesting and captivating to tech savvy and regular users, even though some tiny technical discrepancies.

  • @HeadandShouldersATR
    @HeadandShouldersATR 2 года назад +32

    No one talks about Google, as we all use the former "Don't Be Evil" company 🤣🤣😵

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 2 года назад +5

      They sure dropped that motto when the money started rolling in, eh?

    • @Showmetheevidence-
      @Showmetheevidence- 2 года назад +3

      Yep I’ve been saying this lately… “don’t be evil” seems to have vanished some time ago

    • @johannesuhlenbroch8573
      @johannesuhlenbroch8573 2 года назад +3

      @@Showmetheevidence- their New quote is: "Do the right thing", but for whom? the investors? the customers? the employees?

  • @Lambert7785
    @Lambert7785 4 месяца назад

    excellent reporting, thanks so much :)

  • @millionairesurfer
    @millionairesurfer Год назад +1

    Excellent. Great video, 10/10

  • @AhmedAli88
    @AhmedAli88 2 года назад +63

    Really happy to see your channel taking off more in the past few months.
    I'm almost certain if you keep up the great work your channel will blowup faster than you expect! 😁 Keep up the great work!

  • @sushobhan9210
    @sushobhan9210 2 года назад +17

    you should have your own video platform. Damn good writing, editing, music, everything.

  • @user-fr5pd4ny3p
    @user-fr5pd4ny3p 3 месяца назад

    Awesome Explanation and definitely a Eye opening documentary. Thank you so much for sharing all this info!!

  • @LloydsofRochester
    @LloydsofRochester 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you. This was very useful to know.

  • @hishamhilal8332
    @hishamhilal8332 2 года назад +6

    Simply amazing content. I have been subscribed for reletavily a short time but I gotta say it hurts to see that your videos don't get as many views as they should. Very underrated.

  • @cypresslounge
    @cypresslounge 2 года назад +10

    In Mexico, a lot of local mobile data plans are “pay as you go”. Facebook , WhatsApp, instagram doesn’t go against you data. In a depressed economy, people will use what is free. It’s easy to buy the smallest possible data plan and mostly use these services that don’t use that data. It helps people out in a way, but it’s also a little evil.

  • @nyakwetv
    @nyakwetv 6 месяцев назад +1

    My first video to watch on this channel, incredibly good that had to watch another 3 ❤

  • @mariomenezes1153
    @mariomenezes1153 3 месяца назад

    Lovely video! Thank you!

  • @imranhassan8842
    @imranhassan8842 2 года назад +50

    Has it occurred to anyone that this whole video was an ad for Signal?
    It was an entertaining and quite factual video though.

    • @samsung2699
      @samsung2699 2 года назад +5

      Could be but whatsapp is not the whatsapp I agreed to use anymore ive been looking at alternatives, now I may look into signal

    • @michalgalik9955
      @michalgalik9955 2 года назад +1

      If it wasn’t paid by signal then it was a missed opportunity for the channel.

    • @johannesuhlenbroch8573
      @johannesuhlenbroch8573 2 года назад +3

      Signal is the best messaging app, when looking at your data security.

    • @imranhassan8842
      @imranhassan8842 2 года назад

      @@johannesuhlenbroch8573 agree

    • @scotti3gt
      @scotti3gt 2 года назад

      I actually thought the video was quite neutral (and really well made). Let’s see how Signal goes with their business model.

  • @starlet5350
    @starlet5350 2 года назад +11

    Funny how I deleted my WhatsApp account and uninstalled the app recently. I know my data is probably still in their database but really I want to be more data conscious now.
    John you're psychic! 💛

    • @readbeforeyoureply64
      @readbeforeyoureply64 2 года назад +1

      Kinda pointless when you have a smartphone, use RUclips, Google and so on lol

  • @z5tetriskid
    @z5tetriskid Год назад

    Love the visual comparisons to "THE FOUNDER"!!! Very accurate.

  • @classicist17
    @classicist17 Год назад +5

    "Dumb fucks" 😂 took me out

  • @dilanjamanorathna3605
    @dilanjamanorathna3605 2 года назад +7

    Just 350 thousand views for such an well made documentary...? This might be the most underrated video ever...

  • @dr.berryfx8580
    @dr.berryfx8580 2 года назад +6

    How convenient that this got recommended now.It’s gonna blow up.

  • @LazarusJules
    @LazarusJules Год назад +1

    Absolutely enamored with your content. It scratches the back of my brain that craves investigative content

  • @Anjelika.C
    @Anjelika.C Год назад

    Thank you 🙏🏻 this is so enlightening

  • @mockupguy3577
    @mockupguy3577 2 года назад +18

    Poor me. I really don’t understand people. I’ve had WhatsApp for ten years and sent about 10 messages, I just don’t get it.
    Furthermore I have never even clicked on an ad in Facebook and I cannot think of any time that I saw an ad anywhere online and went off to buy the product.
    The opposite is quite common though. I need a blender. I research, read reviews, compare prices, and buy. THEN, all of a sudden I am flooded with ads for blenders. As if I was going to buy a second one. Not likely.

    • @mucholangs
      @mucholangs 2 года назад +2

      Whatsapp is used by billions. So even though it's unpopular in the USA, it's #1 in places like India, Nigeria, Indonesia, Pakistan, Brazil, etc. Check out the populations of those countries.

    • @jasoncollymore5965
      @jasoncollymore5965 2 года назад +1

      U ent got friends then…..dinosaur

    • @mucholangs
      @mucholangs 2 года назад

      @@jasoncollymore5965 Yep, billions of friends. You seem to have a personal vendetta. I'm curious to know what it is.

    • @mockupguy3577
      @mockupguy3577 2 года назад

      @@mucholangs , yeah, I’ve only used it in India.

    • @mockupguy3577
      @mockupguy3577 2 года назад +5

      @@jasoncollymore5965 , because I buy what I need and not what I’m told to?

  • @nozge7091
    @nozge7091 Год назад +20

    Im still wondering how they let such accurate and informative information be public.

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Год назад +3

      Because it doesn’t matter. Despite being in the age with the easiest access to knowing basically whatever you want people just don’t care to actually know or if they do don’t know how to actually find the information they actually want.

  • @melvindwayne
    @melvindwayne 4 месяца назад

    Excellent video and great storytelling... You'll be huge, a lot of growth awaits you... keep it up.

  • @raqeebaismail3557
    @raqeebaismail3557 3 месяца назад

    i can not stop watching your videos!!! i am hooked

  • @Jopacob
    @Jopacob 2 года назад +26

    Well done, well explained without TOO much melodrama and catastrphisation. Subbed

  • @yourmother5943
    @yourmother5943 2 года назад +75

    I can literally be happy with Just this channel and James Jani's channel for the rest if my life

  • @cristianc
    @cristianc Год назад +1

    Another very well put together informative video.
    Keep up the good work sir!

  • @doaarachdi1805
    @doaarachdi1805 Год назад +1

    I just adore your documentaries. keep up :)

  • @dannyjohnson5872
    @dannyjohnson5872 2 года назад +24

    That was an amazing documentary. Subbed

  • @dhgerber67
    @dhgerber67 Год назад +20

    Fantastic explanation. Should be translated to many languages ! I switched to signal some years ago, and convinced all my relatives to do so. Thank's sir !

  • @lukhanyomabutyana1347
    @lukhanyomabutyana1347 Год назад +1

    Love your videos broe, keep up the good work 💯

  • @jessy1982
    @jessy1982 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can we get a part two of this please?
    Interesting how you mention adding ads to the Status section, when recently the section was renamed to "Updates" and added Channels, which has many business and celebs.