Nice to see all the support in the comments! Great video! So nice to see what y’all have been doing all this time, since I do not come from this world.
I gotta say this is one of my favorite new channels. The level of detail in your work is amazing. Understandably your overhead is less, but I personally think you should ask more for the skill and craftsmanship. $75-100 in my opinion. You are creating one off, fully custom products. Not to mention, enhancing the safety of these rides. Keep it up!
Wow, thank you! Really appreciate that comment. We think so as well. After the project was done $60 seamed a little to low. Live and learn I guess. The important thing is that the customer was very happy. That will pay dividends well into the future.
@@centurialinc I wonder if a cage like that would work on 1973 and up C10 single cab. Also could it be possible to run support bars to the rear part of the frame through the back side of the cab but at a hight just below the bed rails so they could be covered up so no one could see them.
It sure could. We did not do the back bars because you have to cut through the cabin and the customer did not want that. But you can definitely do that.
Thank you very much! That's an interesting thought. For sure the type of interior you have matters A LOT! This cage build only had an 1/8 inch clearance in multiple locations. We aren't ready to make and ship cages right now but maybe next year we could try to tackle that.
We love to help. Send us an email over on our website. Or a text message to the phone number on the contact us page. Here's the link. www.centurialinc.com/contact
Yes. If your bender is like ours then you need to start the bend with a little bit of offset. In the video you can see we used the templates to tell us where each bend started with marks on the tube. The marks line up with the 0 degree and the end angle what ever it is. Now that gets you close. Your bender will have some amount of jiggle and imperfection and you will need to figure that out with a test bend. For us it was about a 1/4 offset. That offset is to compensate for our benders preload and jiggle. The offset is right where the dies meet in the machine. It's impossible to explain in words any more than I have. So my suggestion is to do a little test bend or two to get a feel for how to use the templates and your bender.
Nice work! Your shop rate seems a little low to me from the mindset of business and Labor costs. You mentioned "40 hours" was that "Man hours" or "Shop hours"? What part of the country are you located in? That makes a big difference also. All in all your work and prices are impressive! I'm looking forward to learning more from you guys.
Thank you very much. We are in Casa Grande AZ which is out side of Phoenix. So costs are lower. The 40 hrs is man hours at $30 an hour. We think we could go up to $100 per hour shop rate but after that it seams to high. That cage would have been $4k which is a lot considering its a 4 point cage. Now that dose include install, paint and any misc. needed to get it done like hardware. Lots more to come we are going to continue with the business side of things for a while people like that content and it's not very often talked about. Thanks for the comment and watching.
Hello. We are not offering the cage as a kit or a bolt in at the moment. If we get enough requests we will offer it. Best guess is $2500. What where you thinking for a price?
Your rate is way too low. $100/hr min with Bnomics. Not kidding. You're building custom-custom-custom. I'm about 8 hours N of you in BFE. Dealerships are often over $200 in many parts of the country, but you can't really compare wrenching to custom fab. Finally, if you bill every minute, then your rate is maybe ok. But if you look back and delete time for mistakes, etc then you need to bill higher. Don't worry, soon you'll be so busy you'll have to raise prices. Trust me. The best way to limit business is increase pricing. At your current rate people will start abusing you. By charging more you filter out the low-end clientele and wind up with quality customers willing to truly pay for quality work. If people don't like it, they can buy their own space, benders, welders and everything else.
Thank you! Really appreciate that advice and we agree. That price did end up being too low in the end. So far we have 2-3 other projects lined up. They are more involved builds so we will see how things go and like you said if we get swamped we will have not choice but to up prices.
@centurialinc as your reputation builds (and it won't take long) start quoting jobs at prices that seem *almost* astronomical to you. I think you'll be surprised what people will pay. Again, you're ultimately after a customer base that cares about quality work first and price second.
Hello. We don't offer this as a kit. We only do custom builds and installs. If you are in Arizona we can definitely make it happen. Here is the contact us page on our website. www.centurialinc.com/contact
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Nice to see all the support in the comments! Great video! So nice to see what y’all have been doing all this time, since I do not come from this world.
Thanks man! It definitely is nice. Lots more to come happy you liked it.
I gotta say this is one of my favorite new channels. The level of detail in your work is amazing. Understandably your overhead is less, but I personally think you should ask more for the skill and craftsmanship. $75-100 in my opinion. You are creating one off, fully custom products. Not to mention, enhancing the safety of these rides. Keep it up!
Wow, thank you! Really appreciate that comment. We think so as well. After the project was done $60 seamed a little to low. Live and learn I guess. The important thing is that the customer was very happy. That will pay dividends well into the future.
@@centurialinc for sure! You have a clear customer centric approach which is rare these days.
@@DrivingForwardBuilds Very true. Do you have any projects your working on?
@@centurialinc sadly no projects right now. Just started a new job that’s pulling me away from building the channel.
Very relatable. Took us 7 years to get to this point. Its hard. Keep at it.
This so far best build quality on gage I have seen. Super nice details and well engineered.
Thank you very much! More on the way.
So happy with how the cage turned out! The quality is amazing, and it’s exactly what I wanted
We loved this project and where very happy to do it for you. Lets plan a trip out to the car show when our LS swap is done.
Incredible work guys!👏👏👏
Thank you very much! It was a fun build and it turned out very well.
Great video. Keep it up fellas. When’s the next one coming out!
Thank you! In a couple of weeks. When are you going to come down and help? Can always us another hand.
Absolutely awesome work and the attention details is amazing great job.
Thank you. More on the way.
@@centurialinc I wonder if a cage like that would work on 1973 and up C10 single cab. Also could it be possible to run support bars to the rear part of the frame through the back side of the cab but at a hight just below the bed rails so they could be covered up so no one could see them.
It sure could. We did not do the back bars because you have to cut through the cabin and the customer did not want that. But you can definitely do that.
the level of detail of that cage is amazing!
Thank you. We love how it turned out.
Holy crap, this is exactly the type of template scheme i want to use on my car. Gonna have to order a kit!
We love them! Thank you for the nice comment.
I love it! 🙌 great info and great work. I want a 4 point for my 75 squarebody. I would be interested if you were able to make it and ship it
Thank you very much! That's an interesting thought. For sure the type of interior you have matters A LOT! This cage build only had an 1/8 inch clearance in multiple locations. We aren't ready to make and ship cages right now but maybe next year we could try to tackle that.
these video is fantastic... keep them coming
Happy you liked it. More on the way.
Very interesting and informative ! I have yet to try the templates I ordered but soon. Shop rate is very fair . Many thanks.
Thank you very much for the comment. happy you liked it. What project are you working on?
Hi; I am attempting to do an 8:50 cage for my 37 Chev coupe Gasser ( first time for a cage).@@centurialinc
We love to help. Send us an email over on our website. Or a text message to the phone number on the contact us page. Here's the link. www.centurialinc.com/contact
Very good job. Love the tube tracers for making cages. What is the seat out of? Looks like it fits very well.
Thank you we love them. Those are the originals with some new leather.
Great Video!
Thank you more to come!
I had a question with the template can you explain when you start your bend in the tube bender using the templates
Yes. If your bender is like ours then you need to start the bend with a little bit of offset. In the video you can see we used the templates to tell us where each bend started with marks on the tube. The marks line up with the 0 degree and the end angle what ever it is. Now that gets you close. Your bender will have some amount of jiggle and imperfection and you will need to figure that out with a test bend. For us it was about a 1/4 offset. That offset is to compensate for our benders preload and jiggle. The offset is right where the dies meet in the machine. It's impossible to explain in words any more than I have. So my suggestion is to do a little test bend or two to get a feel for how to use the templates and your bender.
Nice work! Your shop rate seems a little low to me from the mindset of business and Labor costs. You mentioned "40 hours" was that "Man hours" or "Shop hours"? What part of the country are you located in? That makes a big difference also. All in all your work and prices are impressive! I'm looking forward to learning more from you guys.
Thank you very much. We are in Casa Grande AZ which is out side of Phoenix. So costs are lower. The 40 hrs is man hours at $30 an hour. We think we could go up to $100 per hour shop rate but after that it seams to high. That cage would have been $4k which is a lot considering its a 4 point cage. Now that dose include install, paint and any misc. needed to get it done like hardware. Lots more to come we are going to continue with the business side of things for a while people like that content and it's not very often talked about. Thanks for the comment and watching.
What are those quick disconnects called
If your talking about the ones welded to the cage. Those are roll cage bolt in joints. Google that and you will find all kinds.
Can you buy this kit and can we get the halo and front bars
Hello. No this was a custom build. You would have to have us or another shop do this build for you.
How much to build one and ship it to me?
Hello. We are not offering the cage as a kit or a bolt in at the moment. If we get enough requests we will offer it. Best guess is $2500. What where you thinking for a price?
fab work $100 and up
Thank you. We agree after doing this project. anything less than $75 an hour is to low these days.
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Your rate is way too low. $100/hr min with Bnomics. Not kidding. You're building custom-custom-custom. I'm about 8 hours N of you in BFE.
Dealerships are often over $200 in many parts of the country, but you can't really compare wrenching to custom fab.
Finally, if you bill every minute, then your rate is maybe ok. But if you look back and delete time for mistakes, etc then you need to bill higher.
Don't worry, soon you'll be so busy you'll have to raise prices. Trust me. The best way to limit business is increase pricing. At your current rate people will start abusing you. By charging more you filter out the low-end clientele and wind up with quality customers willing to truly pay for quality work. If people don't like it, they can buy their own space, benders, welders and everything else.
Thank you! Really appreciate that advice and we agree. That price did end up being too low in the end. So far we have 2-3 other projects lined up. They are more involved builds so we will see how things go and like you said if we get swamped we will have not choice but to up prices.
@centurialinc as your reputation builds (and it won't take long) start quoting jobs at prices that seem *almost* astronomical to you. I think you'll be surprised what people will pay. Again, you're ultimately after a customer base that cares about quality work first and price second.
I want it for my 84 where can I email you
Hello. We don't offer this as a kit. We only do custom builds and installs. If you are in Arizona we can definitely make it happen. Here is the contact us page on our website. www.centurialinc.com/contact