Sony Tough Cards and Pergear CFexpress A
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Yeah ever since I picked up the Sony A7IV when it came out, I've only been using the Sony cards, V60 since I mainly do photos, a little timelapse and videos here and then. So extremely happy. My Sandisks cards are just my backups that I carry with me.
Thank you from south Florida, just bought one of the more budget friendly pergear from your link for my FX30 that I just pulled out of the box! Love your content!
thanks for thinking of me!! I am recording with that card right now actually.
I use exclusively Sony Tough cards.
I have the FX6 and two FX30s. I have 3x 256GB V60 SD, 2x 320GB CF Tough and 1x80GB CF Tough.
I switch between the cards as needed. When I shoot with a 2 or 3 camera setup, I use the CF as the main card for fast transfers and the SD for simultaneous backup recoding. With a single cam I just use the 2x 320GB CF.
The same thing happened to me with EXACTLY the same card! It broke and got jammed in my a6500. I was totally flat broke at the time and trying to build a RUclips channel and couldn't afford to damage my camera so didn't risk yanking it out. I ended up very carefully sliding a thin piece of metal into the card slot and was able to unjam it. Luckily I didn't damage the camera and it still works. I've recently upgraded to the a6700 and will never risk using one of those cards again!
good save!!
As a hobbyist I don't pull the sd cards from my Sony HXR-NX80 that often and the sd to usb card reader I have is very easy to slide the card into. So consequently these two 4 year old cards (like yours, Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB) are still in like new condition. Any card can physically fail, so I think the users would be well advised to inspect the card to see if the sides are splitting or if the gold plated contacts are becoming loose. If so, then it's time to replace.
Great job on the video Mark! Thanks for making it.
I've been using SanDisk Extreme Pro v90 cards for years with no issues. I have started using Sony Tough and ProGrade v90 cards for a while now. This past weekend I went to a Sony event at a local camera store in Los Angeles. I used one of my older SanDisk Extreme Pro v90 cards to shoot test footage with the a6700 I borrowed from the camera store during the event. The footage came out great. That a6700 is definitely on my wish list. That being said, I still stand by SanDisk.
I will pray to the SD Card Gods that you never have a card fail on you again. I can't promise any effect, as I haven't prayed to the SD Card Gods in a long, long time. In the meantime....Good Luck!! :P
I appreciate the thoughts and prayers
You told me about this. What great advice Mark!
I tend to shout my opinions at whoever will listen.
I also had a Sandisk Extreme Pro disintegrate on me... thankfully it wasnt in my camera at the time. I have since switched to Sony Tough cards as well. The M variant is great value.
A cheap SD card broke my a6000 years ago. Since then, and since upgrading to full frame (a7iii), I've used Lexar and ProGrade cards. ProGrade are definetly the higher quality card. But I've never had issues with either.
The Delkin prime V60 SD cards are working pretty good for me. They eject and inject smooth in my GH6 & GH5.
Yep. My story is SanDisk and dji air2. I put the card in the drone once and that was it. Since then I have never been able to get it out. Fortunately, you can send the material via cable, so it is what it is. No idea what wrong since today. But it's working fine.
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Hi there Mark.
I've been using 2 Lexar CFexpress on my FX30 for around 3 months... so far, so good... And I hope it keep doing well... And 2 Kingston v60 on my A7IV for nearly 1 year. So far, so good...
I’ve been using the Lexar v60 sd cards for the last year and haven’t had any issues so far either
@@chrisbreitigan Good to know. From what we hear, the CFexpress cards tend to be better, faster and more reliable than the SDs. I hope they work well for quite a good time...
My Sandisk used to scrape on metal guides inserting into Sony cameras inside the SD slot. I noticed it shaving little hair-thin slices off and dropping black dust into the SD slot. I realised that I didn't need to take the card out all the time - now I just leave cards in cameras and connect via USB to download the images.I did however change to Lexar, as I didn't like the fact the Sandisk plastic seemed so flaky.
I've had several Sandisk SD cards fall to bits on me with one catastrophic episode in my Canon ^d which necessitated me sending it into Canon to have the mainboard replaced. Yes I think that the Mac SD card reader slots are partly to blame as they are as you say very tight and some of them like on previous generations of the iMac are at the rear of the computer making it very difficult to align the card properly. I now use an external card reader and haven't had a problem since.
I should use an external reader!!
I have had way too many Micro-SD cards fail. One SD Card, and several compact flash cards. I use CFExpress Type A cards and then Lexar SD cards in my cameras. So far, so good.
No, lexar is so bad, stop using that
i don’t think lexar have a good rep mate, you should look into it
@@epicnova2010 I've seen some reports of Lexar v90 SD cards. But my experience with Lexar CF cards on Canon 5D IV, and Lexar v60 cards on Canon R6 I & II as been flawless.
I can't speak for v90 cards, because I've never used them, but I've heard reports that their write speed is slightly lower than advertised, which can cause issues when shooting high-frame rate in 4K. Lexar used to be the budget option to SanDisk, but now there's barely any price difference. I'd go with SanDisk or ProGrade even.
I literally only use the Apple SD card slot to transfer files. Makes sense that the frequent friction will naturally cause deterioration on the connecting points. Looks like Sony Tough might be the way to go. Good thing is SD cards are forever items that can be transferred when you upgrade other pieces, makes spending that extra cheese for long term consideration worth it. How much are memories worth? Even the expensive SD card is probably cheaper than buying another flight or booking another reservation😂
I only use ProGrade SD cards and have not had any problems (YET) and use Delkin for CF Express-A storage. That said....... you make a great point, raise a valid concern, and this is a fantastic solution for those "heavy use" situations. Now where did I put my darn apple juice?
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Very informative, thanks a lot
Yooo, I had a bad card mess up my Lumix S5. It recorded fine shooting photos when I was working sound on a doc in Peru. When I got back to the States, it started to make the ibis system crash and clunk every few seconds. I couldn't figure it out but I was about to send the camera for repairs but I tried a different card and the camera worked just like normal. It's not exactly like your situation but I thought I'd share. : ) Also, the only card that I've had not work with my Sound Devices 633 recorder was an official Sound Devices branded 128gb SD card lol.
Crazy!!
I too have often had problems with Sandisk SD cards. I have learned over time that they are not that much better than other brands. I often find them broken or opening, in short, I don't trust them that much!
I should just find the courage to buy the Sony "tough" ones too!
Sorry for any errors, but I used google translate, hello from Italy!
Hello from Canada!!
Yes, more than one SD (physical) card failure. One (or two?) split in half. On another the ridges near the electrical contacts broke off and I barely got it out of the camera and then never back into it. Since then I'm $ony TOUGH-G all the way for 299mb/s write speed.
Just bought the Tough 128 for my 6700 (because it is required for 4k 100fps!) - I think now I am future proof.
What do you think about Sabrent V90? I'm using it on A6700... Sabrent made also good SSD M.2 😉 good price/performance ratio.
Hi Mark, I destroyed a brand new Sony a7RV because used cheaper sd card and small black plastic piece broke off and jammed the sd card reader. Been using Pergear Cf Express A ever since, and they get hot but seem tough. Keep up with the great videos.
😮 Sorry to hear!!
No worries, Mark. I think it worked out in the end. Went from fx30 to a7rv due to severe GAS, but i might be cured by A1. Wanted minimal wobble and rolling shutter in 8k and only A1 really delivers. No flippy dippy screen but otherwise nearly perfect. And rumors of firmware upgrade coming too! Broke but happy.
PS Be great if you could please consider making a vid about how to properly process HDR in Final Cut and Catalyst from slog3. There is hlg and pq and hdr10 and 10+ and dolby vision etc very confusing.
The v60 tough cards = big bang for buck. But definitely get the v90 for future proofing.
Curiously, I've never had any Micro SD card failures, and I'm even using them with adaptors since my old compact camera days (cheap kingston and sandisk cards). Now I'm using a 128gb samsung V60 MicroSD with my a6400 and no issues so far. Will this comment jinx it? hopefully not.
Thanks for the heads Mark. I've just ordered 2 x Sony Tough Cards (v60) and a Sony Tough Card CFExpress. On seeing your video, I immediately pulled the Sandisk out of my a7R5 and will replace with the CF Express and a Sony Tough SD Card for the secondary slot. The other Sony Tough SD Card will be used in my a6700. Question - have you ever used the ProGrade cards and if you have, what are your thoughts?
I haven’t used the proGrade cards, but people seem to love them and many people consider them as the best alternative to the Sony Tough
Thanks@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 🥰
I have a rather silly question, which is whether a TF card can work with a camera. For example, the ZVE 10. Of course, I have a Samsung TF card that comes with an SD card adapter. I'm just concerned about its compatibility and whether there are any speed-related issues. From what I understand, this card performs well in game consoles.❤
I’m not sure - but if it has an as card adapter - it’s might
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis OK thanks!
Hey Mark, when is that a6700 heating test review coming? Its kinda all over the place in the youtubeland. 😅. Would love your extensive testing and thoughts on that.
I just ran it outside in 31 degrees Celsius in direct sun and it ran until the battery ran out after 2 hours and 15 mins. if you don’t plug in an hdmi monitor, I don’t think you’ll have any issues
The same thing happened to me with the SanDisk card. It ruined my Sony A6300. I remember trying to pull out the SD card; it just broke a piece and damaged the SD card reader. I was so frustrated because my wife was about to give birth and I didn't have my camera to capture the first months of my baby (I had to use an old DSLR Canon t5 with a 24 pancake lens haha) I'm glad that now I own the a6700 the SD card slot is much better on the side and the camera is not in the same spot as the battery. Now, only use the Sony tough sd cards.
wow - terrible!!
The yellow SONY 'Tough' cards are the only SD cards manufactured in this way. I have switched to them since my Samsung and SanDisk SDs started losing their 'teeth'..
Do you use one section of music repeated multiple times, or did you find an entire track that has a nice beat to fill the entire video? I use Artist and try to get nice background music, but want a simpler way to copy same section of a song over and over for the length of the video in Davinci. Any tips?
oust use a bass line and drum beat of a song and react it over and over 🤣
I have an M2 MB Pro 14”. Cards slide in and out easily. Prograde and Lexar. Maybe SanDisk are a little thicker? Maybe you have a different Mac.
That's my exact laptop!! Maybe the sandisk are thicker
In terms of the CFexpress A reader, any reason we shouldn't just hook the USB-C cable up between the laptop and camera? I never take my card out, just transfer everything direct. Maybe it is slower this way?
It can be slower yes - but it's a a safer thing to do. I am just constantly using a million cameras for the channel
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis some think a million might be a figure of speech, long time subscribers know better
Hey Mark! I'm wondering if perhaps the oils in the plastic are getting lost in some of those very warm Sony's over time. No real idea here (like with most things in my life), just thinking out loud (or typing). Keep up the great work! Do I get an invite to your 50k subs party? You don't have to answer now, take your time.
Many sandisk ssds failed on me. They are very unrelieable if u use them longer than a year. This can become very expensive if you need v90 cards. You dont need to take the cards out to save footage. Just use the camera usb and transfer this way
I often borrow cameras or have review units sent - so unfortunately I do have to swap cards in and out a lot.
And I not to long ago bought a lot of Samsung SD Cards because they were on sale! No issues though. I did lose some videos from a trip to Paris because my GoPro 9 corrupted my SanDisk micro sd card! I'm also worried that I may lose photos and videos on my SanDisk SSD drives! Some people have been reporting that they've lost a lot of data on them!
Thanks for the story time! I am still trying to build a nice relationship with B&H. It's a one way relationship at this point I spend tons on their gear and they refuse to work with my on my channel. Any secretes to get into their good graces? Cheers.
I just applied to the affiliate program. The rejected it at first and then I wrote an email. After that - I got an affiliate contact there
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thanks so much I tried that a couple of times. I will keep at it. Maybe if I say I know Mark I’ll be good😁
The only card that from time to time refuses to work in my cameras is SanDisk Extreme Pro.
Totally understandable getting those Sony tough cards but those are way to expensive for me 😂 at least for now anyways plus I don’t have any cameras that need v60 or v90 speeds so v30 been working out great for me I strictly been using Samsung Pro Plus the price to performance is excellent and I haven’t had an issue yet
And I wanna say thank you mark your channel and a few others have inspired me to start my own camera channel, so far so good!
I use the v60 cards.... oh and i am always looking for sales on them 😅😅 i don't shoot video much but photography is another story 😅
Congrats on the channel!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you my Guy!!!
I have never had problems with extreme pro. However I use them for cheap back up as they are under $20 on sale. I could see how beating the hell out of any card is problematic.
Why keep reusing them for years? At that price
It's true - I do buy them as backups myself - and if you plan to swap them out every few months - it's workable. But that gets expensive if you're trying to get v90 versions though
Wow, that's a real horror story! My computer doesn't have an sd card reader so I just connect the camera directly via usb and transfer all the files that way. It's slow, VERY SLOW, but gets the job done. Don't know if it's actually better but I haven't encounter any issues so far
Probably safer!!
man, Samsung evo plus sdxc, use them for years
I put the memory card in my camera and don't really ever take it out. Maybe I'm the exception to the rule. I put it in, and then upload the photos to my PC by connecting the camera to my PC.
Hey Mark, was there any sign the card was going to fail before it did? I've got 3 of them that look fine to me. Thanks.
it started to feel a bit thin. If you're paying attention - you'll probably catch it
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks! Now excuse me while I go find a magnifying glass.
Pergear CFEXPRESS type A are well worth it.
One question : do these cards come with a reader in the package ?
The pergear? You can buy the reader with the card yes.
I had a heart attack when I saw the SanDisk card was the problem, but luckily it is not what I thought. I don't remove my sd card because I can use the usb port in the camera so I hope I'm fine
I'll keep this video in mind for the future tho
Hey Mark😁 Too much focus breathing 😮 what lense is that and why no focus breathing comp?🤔
t was the 24mm GM - but I forgot to turn focus breathing comp on my A7IV!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Remind if you can, does Zv e1 have focus breathing comp??
Could you give the rough estimated number of insert/eject times?
Before it broke
hundreds
I never get my cards out. I just use the USB-C cable and connect it to my camera and send the files to the PC. The cards just live inside my camera.
I slowly trashed all my sandisk SD cards...they all broke that stupid lock pin 🤨
Now I'm pretty happy with sabrent and samsung sd cards
It’s interesting how some people have problems with cards and others never have. I’ve been using these for years and not one issue. I know there is (or was) a knock-off problem with fakes, I wonder if that explains a lot of it? 🤔
No matter the brand- mine fall apart after heavy use. Most people find if you’re taking them in and out several times a day for a couple of years that eventually they disintegrate
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis a good point. I might transfer pictures once every week or three. 🤙🏼
Been there. Cheap card cost me a $450+ repair due to damaging the retention mechanism in a Sony a7III.
😮😮 Sorry to hear!!
Now you tell me! (Good idea for a video, this will really help people)
You think they’re fine until they aren’t 🤣
Sony tough are the only cards I buy
“No jokes everybody” 😂😂😂
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I don't understand people which buys a good camera, at least 4 lenses (like for example Sony 10-20mm, 20-70mm, 70-200mm, 200-600mm to have everything covered), 2 or 3 filters, gimbal, tripod, a few sources of light and some special material for background to shoot at home, pay for all of that over $20k and then they try to save some money on memory card?!? And I know a guy like that. Anyway, I use only SanDisc cards for everything - GoPro, SteamDeck, old phone that I use at work, 2 cards which are swapped between my PC and 3D printers every day (sometimes a couple of times a day) and never had a problem with even one of them, but I will try this Sony V90.
'Nchessenso?
Sandisk are the best. Perhaps you got a knockoff one?
I have had tons. they all fall apart after a year or two on constant use. but I pull sd cards in and out more than most with this camera channel
No jokes 🙄 ... Party pooper
working in a photo studio and work with so many sd card (probably 50-100 cards)due to redundancy.
What I am sure is Lexar and transcend are the worst. frequently fail, unreliable speed.
Sandisk is okay but not the best.
Then kingston canvas is slightly better than sandisk.
Then all other premium brand are almost the same, in a good way. like prograde, AVPro, Sony, etc. They DO fail, but in a less harmful way, and very rarely.
The sony one is tough, but only the outside shell. The inside components are the same as other premium cards, which means tough card can withstand more physical damage, but if you mess around the file and format, they do fail like other cards.
Just my humble opinion and experience.
For me, the biggest trouble is the physical casing that falls apart - so the tough cards have helped.
I use Lexar Professional 1667x cards for both my Canon and my Sony ZV-E10. The card seldom comes out of the Canon as you can transfer everything via the USB cable but the Sony just doesn't do that so I have to take the card out to transfer the files. I think the Canon set up is so superior to Sony. The file structure is clean and straight forward and the Canon Software recognises new files that haven't been transferred yet and you can just select to move only them. Sony is a mess from the file structure on the cards to the sony software. Anyone that uses both will know exactly what I mean.
interesting!
Dear Sandisk, watch this ! #Sad
Most cards will get brittle after a while - which is why I switched to the tough ones
Happened to me years ago and cost me $1000 to repair to my $4,600 camera
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My horror story is that I'm one of those icky new gen spoiled children who used a tonne of cellphones before ever buying an actual camera and so... never actually remove my sdcards, and habitually copy everything out via usb cable ._.
The horror!!
That tough card is a manly card for men, like cowboys and construction workers and tech youtubers.
exactly
0:36 💀
Sony Tough card it is.
for me for sure!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis me too
Wes Perry who has an engineering degree, recommends the ProGrade Digital cards over the Sony Tough cards.
Good to know - I'll have to check it out
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
I used to use the Sony Tough cards but switched to ProGrade Digital. The disadvantage of the ProGrade Digital Type A cards is the maximum capacity of 160GB.
As a long time SanDisk user, these horror stories (SD cards breaking apart, rampant SSD failures) have made me decide to not buy anything from them unless something drastic changes.
One thing I do is that I treat my SD cards like internal storage. I buy them brand new when I get a new camera, and they stay in there the entire life of the camera (or until I sell it). I make sure I buy the fastest and largest cards I can afford, which means I never have to swap them out during a gig. I also hook my cameras up directly when I transfer files. Effectively I'm eliminating 90% of the potential failures SD cards have, which come from wear/tear. I realize that doesn't help you much, because you are constantly reviewing new cameras.
Smart plan!!
Is Pergear even a real manufacturer? I thought they were a third party seller that sells stuff on Amazon.
Ha - They’re a real company. They are actually a big store that sells many brands and they make some of their own items like lenses, batteries and cards
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I know they’re the distributor of Viltrox and TTArtisan and etc. but I just can’t trust them as a manufacturer yet. I know they have their own stuff but how do we know it’s not just rebranded third party items?
I wish they would just have high speed storage built into the cameras.
What are you people doing to rip out an sd slot? If something fragile is stuck do you just use all your strength to rip on it? 😂😂
I'm like the Hulk. Can't help it.
I dont like this ad
ad?? because I recommend buying cards that don't break? Isn't that an anti-ad? I also asked anyone in the video if they know of other tough, resilient cards to put them in the comment section.