I love how, at the end, John reaches for the door handle the exact same way he reaches for the mail at the very beginning. It even uses the same camera angles, and he makes the same face.
The sheer existence of lil Cal, and by extension Lord english was paradoxical. The children were able to create a new universe and enter it, with it permanently being kept safe and barred from English. Meanwhile, the destruction of the Green Sun by Doomed Calliope made Lord English lose his immense power, allowing the army to finally defeat him once and for all. However, due to how everyone was tricked into creating the green sun, all the way back in Cascade, Lord English will simply be reborn due to the nature of paradox space. However, that doesn't matter anymore. Everybody was able to get their happy ending in the new Universe, and English will never be able to plague it. He's trapped in the doomed timeline, constantly cycling between his rebirth in Cascade and his death in Act 7.
No, they're currently in the universe that Caliborn was born in. They haven't solved anything and Calliope just ensured that English couldn't destroy the multiverse by destroying it herself.
@@Crepetomaniac It's... debatable, I think? The epilogue REALLY tries to confuse you about how much of it is actually canon. I... *think* she canonically got sucked into the black hole just as the "weapon" fired? I only read one route, but that was *probably* the "more canon" one, given that the other explicitly avoids returning to what in-universe characters consider to be "canon" to load the weapon. I honestly wouldn't recommend reading the epilogue, it's... not great.
"Goodness is goodness in the final hour, in the deepest pit. Without hope, without witness, without reward." God Tier Calliope gave her life, knowing that she would be destroyed forever, knowing that she was already in the only afterlife she would ever get. And yet, still, she did what she knew must be done.
The muse destroys their aspect through creation, and the lord creates their aspect through destruction. Calliope creates a black hole that destroys space around it, and lord english stabilizes the furthest ring by destroying dream bubbles. Idk, I just really love the whole paradoxy fun stuff of that it's so cool
@@kaiserband6412 Mm, perhaps. I know space and time are tied to creation and destruction, I just like the idea that muses and lords are too. But then, we only have one of each, so it's kind of hard to tell.
A shame that they removed comments from the official act 7 video, it was cool seeing evrryone chime in when they had gotten off hussys wild ride. Ill always remember those of us who were there in the first hours of act 7 dropping, good times
I think I finally understand how this works as the end. I think that after [S]: Game Over, and John's subsequent retconning, the timeline was split into 2 separate Alpha timelines in which neither had the Game Over. The first is Caliborn's home timeline. The genesis frog was created and earth was reestablished, and though it was repopulated, it didn't last long (because of all the shitty statues of liberty left in Caliborn: Enter). The kids went directly to confront Caliborn where the events of Caliborn's Masterpiece took place. The kids that were trapped in the juju then defeated LE but ultimately were terminated as well, so they could not go back to earth. As for the second timeline, the kids leave Paradox Space altogether. There is no influence of The Game on it, as the Royals' Rings were destroyed. The party then reaps the true Ultimate Reward by breaking free of Paradox Space. The major theme of this work must be seen through the lens of postmodernism. Homestuck is a truly postmodern work, rejecting literally EVERY narrative convention, from linear storytelling, traditional character arcs, and of course the 4th Wall breaks. And so the theme of this work speaks to the soul of any artist with a postmodern worldview: the desire to create something entirely New. Hussie frequently uses stock images and the same character models/frame shots. This is a very postmodernist method of creating art: using other works to create something unique but ultimately entirely derivative of other things. It's sort of like a collage. In today's age where everything is derivative of something else, Hussie has managed to create a completely unique story. It has references(this is what the refrance is) to many other works, but unlike almost any other story in Western literature, it cannot be reduced to a Shakespearen story, or a Biblical one. It bears a lot of resemblance to early Christian Gnosticism, but its basic plot is still too complex to be reduced to that. In short, Hussie has actually done what many consider impossible: he obtained the Ultimate Goal of a postmodernist. He created something New, even though nearly every aspect of it was derivative. Bravo, Mr. Hussie, bravo.
+Libertades Chronicles We all know it's gonna happen. Hussie's gonna be like "Yeah so the epilogue ended up being too long so I just decided to make a Homestuck 2.0, enjoy 7 more years of suffering."
Clownpiece Basically, it's a term for an anime (or any show, really) where an episode, season, or even the whole series has this completely out-of-nowhere ending. The term comes from Gainax Studios, whose shows are notorious for this; _Neon Genesis Evangelion_ is one of the most famous examples from them. But to be honest, I think this is the opposite: the big plot twist was that Act 7 didn't have a plot twist.
Christoph TSS So basically, it means it ended out of nowhere? I have to admit, I was expecting ONE last battle against Lord English, the one that was portrayed in the clay animation Caliborn created.
I really wish that Hussie had managed Homestuck better. It got big, perhaps too big and he thought he could handle it becoming a multimedia franchise, which is why we got the game, the books, the VIZ merger, and while I liked them, the questionable quality in the Epilogues and ^2 (along with the awful homestuck2 team who drove everyone away). Just imagine if Hussie hadn't decided to do any of that. If he had just focused on finishing the comic, maybe release some merchandise, maybe wait until after the comic ended to launch the KS for Hiveswap and then focus on it completely instead of stretching himself thin and having that troubled development cycle.... could things have ended differently? Would the Fandom and the franchise be in a better state, instead of being a shadow of its former self? Perhaps we might never know... but to put it in Homestuck terms, it's sad that because of some choices, our beloved comic ended in a doomed timeline, dying with so much baggage and without any fanfare.
The kids and trolls won the game. A new universe has been made. The Mayor has founded his real, true Can Town. Aradia got to see what happens when the whole place breaks apart. Lord English and the Condesce are dead. Jack Noir is being redeemed by love. But it's not over yet...
Actually, Jack Noir never got redeemed, Hussie uploaded new snapchats in wich he attempts to kill Jane, an he is punished by The Felt (Now on Jane's side) by gougin his eyes.
LE was never killed in the flash, though. It ends the flash on a cliffhanger of what happened to him when that one thing was released on him, thus why many are expecting an epilogue.
Homestuck had one of, if not the best ending of anything I had ever read or played. After finishing Homestuck for the first time, I was crying. It was a long journey, watching 4 kids play a game, and watching them die, then come back, better than before. Then 12 trolls came and they played the game. then 4 more kids. Characters grew and developed, defeated enemies, and, after 8100 pages and 7 years, the 32 characters that we loved all that time, now reduced to 28, finally did it. they finally beat the game that took 3 1/2 years of their lives and countless, repeated deaths, now going on to live in peace. Leaving their old lives behind, John and his friends enter the new universe, to live out their days in peace. 612/413. Time to read it yet again.
gg To anyone who's left out there, let's relish this moment where homestuck still has just a little bit of it's fandom left. Maybe the fandom dies out a lot more and that these are some of it's best days left, the future is left to be decided and I shall see it through
Anyone remember when this comic started off as a few nerdy teenagers wanting to play a video game? Then earth’s fate was dragged in and all hell broke loose from there. To think that Lord English, Caliborn, Lil Cal, the Green Sun, everything. To think that all these factors of life and death, good and bad, creation and destruction, peace and conflict, all came from this one game and its connections to so many multiverses. It’s hard to imagine that this whole comic is simply not just about a game. It stopped being a game by the end of Act 1, but one could argue that SBURB’s game aesthetic lost its touch completely at Cascade, when the Green Sun was introduced. To think that the trolls never had to deal with LE. Only the Betas had to. LE is not a boss fight everyone has to deal with, nor is the condesce or Jack Noir. To think that the game isn’t won even after Act 7. Lord English and Caliborn are still out there. They defeated one version of LE, but that was simply a way to delay his return. He may or will always be back. Because no matter how many times you kill him, H E S A L R E A D Y H E R E.
He's stuck in 'here' he got lodged in infinite an *infinite time* loop in the meat timeline. He isn't even in the candy timeline because theres no candy timeloop so he stopped existing in the candy timeline.
Well Lord English lost anyways even if he didn't die, because his whole objective was killing everyone just for being a dick. LE/Caliborn is stuck in the timeloop that is Homestuck Acts 1 through 6, the kids and trolls escaped it through creating the new universe Caliborn will never enter, so he has essentially lost even if within the narrative he never dies and is always present in the story, because his story has no end, while the main characters have found a new story.
Starting with *The Note Desolation Plays* , followed by the *Raise of the Conductor's Baton* , and concluding with *The Rapture* upon the defeat of Lord English.
"Homestuck doesn't die. They GOD TIER." "Just because it's finished doesn't mean it's forgotten" Homestuck ain't over, my friends. This is just the beginning -end super inspirational speech
+Dat Weird 69er "You don't have to 8e alive to make yourself relevant. And you don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero. You just have to know who you are and stay true to that."
A cycle that never ends. This is not an end, not a beginning, not a middle. These are just flow of events that all connect. They have meaning to eachother but not to outside. It is a depressing, gloomy cycle with sparks of light occasionally shining.
it wasnt until after i sat throught my unbelievably cancerous music class that i realized this has a meaningful name. damn. makes me sob every god damn time.
Anime Snowman Final battle was on 4/13, (start of comic) final album on 6/12 (start of hivebent), which is why I say that (GAME OVER, Cascade, etc etc). Maybe 11/11. idek
The pose of Calliope on the cover reminds me of the pose of Christ on the crucifix. Given that her arrival and actions resulted in what Andrew called "The Rapture", I would like to think this was intentional by the artist.
BoyBeyondTheStars You shall soon find that literally everything in Homestuck has deeper, hidden meanings. If you look closely, you can find parallels to just about every piece of influential literature in human history. This shit digs deep.
@@siliconmonday You can be atheistic, even have personal vendettas against religion (I know I do) but many religions are sources for the ideas in art and stories. Of course, the other side of things is that artists rarely intend to impart as much meaning as random people end up assigning to the art, so you could be right that this was never part of the artists intention.
@@blahthebiste7924 I mean most of the best stories tend to use bits of mythology and religion to spice up the story. Just take the Xeno series or the Percy Jackson series for examples between subtle and actively using religion and mythology to spruce up a story.
This was the perfect ending for Homestuck, everything was so intense and magical, but... HS^2 had to ruin it. It's a shame that it couldn't have just been left at this. I guess, in a way, Homestuck is the Dragon Ball of web comics, it'll never truly end but it'll never be as good as it originally was.
when i read the epilogues, i actually went into a depressive episode for days. I never understood why they couldn’t just let our heroes be happy. were the epilogues and homestuck^2 really stories that NEEDED to be told?
I have fin(n)ally searched enough of these clouded waters to dive up from the depths of the internet what the epilogue will contain. BE WARNED: SPOILERS AHEAD! 'You have also correctly divined that the last boss in Homestuck will be a seal with a grenade.' - Andrew Hussie, 11/02/2009. Since this has not occured yet there is no other possibility than for it to occur in the epilogue.
_"The hole leaves behind an absence in the sky so calm that continuing to call it a sky wouldn’t seem to do it justice. It’s a perfectly neutral expanse into which anything one can imagine might be summoned. And for a while, anything was. But not anymore. Where the hole gaped just moments ago, there now exists an imaginary line. Above this line resides all that matters. Below exists all else. Never again the twain shall meet."_ -Homestuck Epilogues, Meat Postscript. Here God Tier Calliope is describing the boundary between her black hole and the outside world, the line between candy and Meat. Given the direction of Homestuck^2's waning popularity I imagine that the meat timeline is going to faze out of canonicity and that 'imaginary line' will no longer exist. If that's the case you could interpret that imaginary line as the seal to God Tier Calliope's black hole, and by extension, all things Non-Canon. Maybe its gonna blow up and consume everything.
@@dandyspacedandy Nice thinking, although it's also definitely still a possibility that a giant animal seal throwing grenades will appear and end homestuck once and for all
this webcomic actually made me cry, and it's crazy for me to say that as i don't cry much over media (splatoon 3 was the only other one that did) i loved this webcomic so much, those 8000+ pages are fucking worth it. the end hit me so fucking hard!!!!
I want to say something. Just some nice and warm words towards a comic that changed my view of things. It just struck me, here at 12:21 am on June 24th, Monday, in 2019. It just hit me during this track when Savior of the Waking World began, and then launched into Explore. This comic’s soundtrack knows how to get you deep, like how A Taste For Adventure makes me feel determined, pumped, and invincible. Music is something that makes up 50% of Homestuck. It adds that true filling to the emptiness when there’s no words. But the thing that got me the most is we hear and fall in love with all these songs, and then they come back in epic remixes towards the end of the comic, just as a reminder to let you know that this is the true end and that the comic wants to cycle back to the most memorable moments earlier in the beginning to show a true lap, a true cycle, a true return to the beginning AS its end. That’s awesome. It’s so cool how these super memorable and iconic and repeating motifs continue to come back and show up once more. Gives off that euphoria feeling, making this comic seem so much bigger than it it. It’s my life now, and even though its over, I shall stay loyal to this thing to the very end. Dammit, Hussie. We love you. And we, or at least, *I* want to thank you for making this happen. If you want my full story and experience with this beautiful fandom, please head over to Eternity Served Cold, and search for my comment. But its late as I stated before, so I shall so that in the morning (from when I’m writing this). ~Signed, Noble Animations, the Heir of Time.
Leitmotif is my favorite thing in the world, so when my childhood introduction to *everything* I know and love makes a song that is nothing but leitmotif *Oh man*
My brother and I were looking at songs to match our character's battle themes... this fits his PERFECTLY! He ended up getting LORD OF FUCKING HOPE! I got Mage of Space...
The parts where Vriska used the treasure to re-capture LE (5:36 And 6:06) sound a fucking lot like a Skylanders motif, but I don’t know which one of the many games currently, and it’s been driving me mad for weeks now If anyone can help me out I’d be very happy
Homestuck inspired me to write. I always wantedt write fiction butbwas always secon guessing myself, thinking ideas were lame or stupid. Well this is a story of a bunch of teens playing a video game together in order to become God's while dealing with the biggest mankind in the multiverse and trying to raise a frog to become a literal universe. If this concept can be turned into a epic tale with a ending making people cry, there's hope for me yet. Just gotta practice and have faith.
I think the thing in homestuck that made me question my existence is the whole god tiering thing so like, they die, but they sort of like move onto something bigger I guess? dunno, just got me thinking
I think I managed to get through it during May, actually. So I guess it's just that I haven't been as into the fandom itself. I mostly just listen to the music endlessly thanks to youtube's autoplay... and get in loops that contain stuff from the Prospit And Derse album and start yawning. Sorry Jeremy... or should I say JERRY? We should ditch him.
![Homestuck - [S] Collide - full album (2016)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IdrTc-6wS-k/mqdefault.jpg)
![Homestuck - [S] Collide - full album (2016)](/img/tr.png)
![[S] ACT 7](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FevMNMwvdPw/mqdefault.jpg)
“You don’t need to do anything. Be who you’ve become, and who I didn’t. Consume the fruits of an existence I could never understand. Live.”
- John Mulaney
Yes, you are absolutely certain John Mulaney said that at one point.
I love how, at the end, John reaches for the door handle the exact same way he reaches for the mail at the very beginning. It even uses the same camera angles, and he makes the same face.
the heir reaches out for breath to inherit
Overture: the repeated exposure to a focus, typically of a beat or melody.
The electricity was a nice touch too
Yeah, the circle of life.
The sheer existence of lil Cal, and by extension Lord english was paradoxical. The children were able to create a new universe and enter it, with it permanently being kept safe and barred from English. Meanwhile, the destruction of the Green Sun by Doomed Calliope made Lord English lose his immense power, allowing the army to finally defeat him once and for all. However, due to how everyone was tricked into creating the green sun, all the way back in Cascade, Lord English will simply be reborn due to the nature of paradox space. However, that doesn't matter anymore. Everybody was able to get their happy ending in the new Universe, and English will never be able to plague it. He's trapped in the doomed timeline, constantly cycling between his rebirth in Cascade and his death in Act 7.
THANK YOU
Interesting.
i was just about to say that!!
don't forget, any future sburb sessions from this universe will lead to more universes outside the green sun's domain.
No, they're currently in the universe that Caliborn was born in. They haven't solved anything and Calliope just ensured that English couldn't destroy the multiverse by destroying it herself.
That part where Rose and Kanaya look up at the THANKS FOR PLAYING sign while the bit of Sburban Jungle plays will never not give me chills.
I don't think this is over quite yet.
I cried so hard when I realized it was over
unfortunately it wasn't over
They ruined it even more with hs^2
I def cried
don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened
shit is fucked though
there is an epilogue. homestuck never ends. save us
+RealityMasterRogue
remember
you're here forever
I'M SO SAD THO D,:
the most wisest words i ever herd on this website
i have nothing else
The one shot of Vriska posing as the giant Homestuck logo falls to the ground behind her is the coolest thing in the multiverse
SBURB logo (the Spirograph is the logo)
Does anyone know what happened to Vriska after that?
@@Crepetomaniac It's... debatable, I think? The epilogue REALLY tries to confuse you about how much of it is actually canon. I... *think* she canonically got sucked into the black hole just as the "weapon" fired? I only read one route, but that was *probably* the "more canon" one, given that the other explicitly avoids returning to what in-universe characters consider to be "canon" to load the weapon.
I honestly wouldn't recommend reading the epilogue, it's... not great.
"Goodness is goodness in the final hour, in the deepest pit. Without hope, without witness, without reward."
God Tier Calliope gave her life, knowing that she would be destroyed forever, knowing that she was already in the only afterlife she would ever get. And yet, still, she did what she knew must be done.
She wasnt destroyed forever, she... transformed forever, she still has consciousness, even after becoming a black hole.
the epilgoue makes this amazing comment sound so sad
Goodness is Good in Extremis
And things couldn't get more dire than that last battle
ironically, after the epilogues it shows that she does get a reward for defeating him
Galew All Blanco, she Took over jades mind and is possessing her is HOMESTUCK2
The muse destroys their aspect through creation, and the lord creates their aspect through destruction. Calliope creates a black hole that destroys space around it, and lord english stabilizes the furthest ring by destroying dream bubbles. Idk, I just really love the whole paradoxy fun stuff of that it's so cool
A Bird Lover I don’t think Muses are intrinsically tied to creation, and Lords to destruction; I think that’s more of a space-time connection.
@@kaiserband6412 Mm, perhaps. I know space and time are tied to creation and destruction, I just like the idea that muses and lords are too. But then, we only have one of each, so it's kind of hard to tell.
the part when homestuck turned into anime
and touched the hearts of the fans
but left a cliffhanger
then the credits happened
and the fandom exploded
Monday Mousemallow
[S] Fandom: WHERE MAKING THIS HAPEN
homestuck is still on clifhanger and no hiveswap act 2
It wouldn't be homestuck if it didn't leave unanswered questions at every turn
remember homestuck ended on culmination moment where john break the cycle or continue (caliborn masterpiece)
A shame that they removed comments from the official act 7 video, it was cool seeing evrryone chime in when they had gotten off hussys wild ride. Ill always remember those of us who were there in the first hours of act 7 dropping, good times
I think I finally understand how this works as the end. I think that after [S]: Game Over, and John's subsequent retconning, the timeline was split into 2 separate Alpha timelines in which neither had the Game Over. The first is Caliborn's home timeline. The genesis frog was created and earth was reestablished, and though it was repopulated, it didn't last long (because of all the shitty statues of liberty left in Caliborn: Enter). The kids went directly to confront Caliborn where the events of Caliborn's Masterpiece took place. The kids that were trapped in the juju then defeated LE but ultimately were terminated as well, so they could not go back to earth.
As for the second timeline, the kids leave Paradox Space altogether. There is no influence of The Game on it, as the Royals' Rings were destroyed. The party then reaps the true Ultimate Reward by breaking free of Paradox Space.
The major theme of this work must be seen through the lens of postmodernism. Homestuck is a truly postmodern work, rejecting literally EVERY narrative convention, from linear storytelling, traditional character arcs, and of course the 4th Wall breaks. And so the theme of this work speaks to the soul of any artist with a postmodern worldview: the desire to create something entirely New. Hussie frequently uses stock images and the same character models/frame shots. This is a very postmodernist method of creating art: using other works to create something unique but ultimately entirely derivative of other things. It's sort of like a collage. In today's age where everything is derivative of something else, Hussie has managed to create a completely unique story. It has references(this is what the refrance is) to many other works, but unlike almost any other story in Western literature, it cannot be reduced to a Shakespearen story, or a Biblical one. It bears a lot of resemblance to early Christian Gnosticism, but its basic plot is still too complex to be reduced to that. In short, Hussie has actually done what many consider impossible: he obtained the Ultimate Goal of a postmodernist. He created something New, even though nearly every aspect of it was derivative.
Bravo, Mr. Hussie, bravo.
Wow, you are absolutely right,
the epilogues show the same.
I can't believe this guy just foresaw the Epilogue
@@melcnn8142 Me neither
S E E R
@@K3N0PSIA seer of time.......
And this, my friends... is how homestuck ends.
...
NOW FOR HIVESWAP AND HOMESTUCK 2.0
Must happen.
+Libertades Chronicles We all know it's gonna happen. Hussie's gonna be like "Yeah so the epilogue ended up being too long so I just decided to make a Homestuck 2.0, enjoy 7 more years of suffering."
+I like nice cream Homestuck nearly extended for a decade .*0
Well Homestuck 2.0 was officially announced so nice
+Tron Sollux (coolskeleton95) I knew it was gonna happen someday
homestuck was anime for all of nine minutes.
and in those 9 minutes we got fucking gainaxed.
gg everybody
+Dingus Yes. Jade Harley / Jane Crocker, everyone.
+Dingus Gainaxed?
Clownpiece Basically, it's a term for an anime (or any show, really) where an episode, season, or even the whole series has this completely out-of-nowhere ending. The term comes from Gainax Studios, whose shows are notorious for this; _Neon Genesis Evangelion_ is one of the most famous examples from them. But to be honest, I think this is the opposite: the big plot twist was that Act 7 didn't have a plot twist.
Christoph TSS So basically, it means it ended out of nowhere?
I have to admit, I was expecting ONE last battle against Lord English, the one that was portrayed in the clay animation Caliborn created.
+Hecatia Lapislazuli Do you mean when they meet him on stage?
I really wish that Hussie had managed Homestuck better. It got big, perhaps too big and he thought he could handle it becoming a multimedia franchise, which is why we got the game, the books, the VIZ merger, and while I liked them, the questionable quality in the Epilogues and ^2 (along with the awful homestuck2 team who drove everyone away).
Just imagine if Hussie hadn't decided to do any of that. If he had just focused on finishing the comic, maybe release some merchandise, maybe wait until after the comic ended to launch the KS for Hiveswap and then focus on it completely instead of stretching himself thin and having that troubled development cycle.... could things have ended differently? Would the Fandom and the franchise be in a better state, instead of being a shadow of its former self? Perhaps we might never know... but to put it in Homestuck terms, it's sad that because of some choices, our beloved comic ended in a doomed timeline, dying with so much baggage and without any fanfare.
Remember when Lord English was just a kid and a cueball? Yeah, me neither.
Did this music die on its Quest Bed? Because it sure is god tier.
Mm Funny Joke
Prizmo Turtle
(insert obscure Yoda reference)
+DSDstudios OBI WAN CANOLI
Oml I just made a homestuck pickup line:
Did you die on your quest bed? You sure look god tier.
I probably should have read the comments, Hi +Boy
The kids and trolls won the game.
A new universe has been made.
The Mayor has founded his real, true Can Town.
Aradia got to see what happens when the whole place breaks apart.
Lord English and the Condesce are dead.
Jack Noir is being redeemed by love.
But it's not over yet...
Fricken slicks spade got to avenge his friends by finishing the job he sought out with them. Killing English.
Actually, Jack Noir never got redeemed, Hussie uploaded new snapchats in wich he attempts to kill Jane, an he is punished by The Felt (Now on Jane's side) by gougin his eyes.
Gremlins Wrath “slicks spades” lol
LE was never killed in the flash, though. It ends the flash on a cliffhanger of what happened to him when that one thing was released on him, thus why many are expecting an epilogue.
@@anubiscerberus4348 Isn't that B2 Jack Noir, who became Lord Jack after gouging his eyes out?
There will “Never Ever” be another webcomic like Homestuck ever again.
emperor yellow citrus fruit reference
"Thanks for playing"
I knew Homestuck was a game all along
jdsmall628 It’s because SBURB was ultimately a game.
Homestuck had one of, if not the best ending of anything I had ever read or played. After finishing Homestuck for the first time, I was crying. It was a long journey, watching 4 kids play a game, and watching them die, then come back, better than before. Then 12 trolls came and they played the game. then 4 more kids. Characters grew and developed, defeated enemies, and, after 8100 pages and 7 years, the 32 characters that we loved all that time, now reduced to 28, finally did it. they finally beat the game that took 3 1/2 years of their lives and countless, repeated deaths, now going on to live in peace. Leaving their old lives behind, John and his friends enter the new universe, to live out their days in peace.
612/413. Time to read it yet again.
And then, The music.The music that plays right at the end of this track. Also, Hi aleph null, didn’t expect to run into you here.
This made me sad bro wtf 🥺
And then the epilogues happened
Casey Boyack yup,
@@casey7817 Even before the epilogues people were complaining that it was too open ended, then the epilogues happened and now people want to go back
homestuck became webcomic and into a fucking anime.
god i love homestuck.
me, cranking my earbuds to max volume as 6:07 kicks in, permanently ruining my hearing and making my eardrums bleed: ahhh yes, perfection
I don't think any phrase I hear in my life will ever hit me quite as hard as "THANKS FOR PLAYING" did.
Can't wait to see the first orchestra to try playing this live.
symphony impossible to play
It wouldn't be all that difficult for a full orchestra to perform this.
Joshua Fischer
It would be beautiful.
7:40
YOU CAN HEAR SBURBAN JUNGLE. QAQ. I'm crying.
KrysysDaPro _ I
That last update though was so fucking sexy. The animation was beautiful :o
I mean, it answered NOTHING but god damn was it gorgeous so who cares
gg
To anyone who's left out there, let's relish this moment where homestuck still has just a little bit of it's fandom left. Maybe the fandom dies out a lot more and that these are some of it's best days left, the future is left to be decided and I shall see it through
Anyone remember when this comic started off as a few nerdy teenagers wanting to play a video game? Then earth’s fate was dragged in and all hell broke loose from there. To think that Lord English, Caliborn, Lil Cal, the Green Sun, everything. To think that all these factors of life and death, good and bad, creation and destruction, peace and conflict, all came from this one game and its connections to so many multiverses. It’s hard to imagine that this whole comic is simply not just about a game. It stopped being a game by the end of Act 1, but one could argue that SBURB’s game aesthetic lost its touch completely at Cascade, when the Green Sun was introduced. To think that the trolls never had to deal with LE. Only the Betas had to. LE is not a boss fight everyone has to deal with, nor is the condesce or Jack Noir. To think that the game isn’t won even after Act 7. Lord English and Caliborn are still out there. They defeated one version of LE, but that was simply a way to delay his return. He may or will always be back. Because no matter how many times you kill him, H E S A L R E A D Y H E R E.
He's stuck in 'here' he got lodged in infinite an *infinite time* loop in the meat timeline. He isn't even in the candy timeline because theres no candy timeloop so he stopped existing in the candy timeline.
Well Lord English lost anyways even if he didn't die, because his whole objective was killing everyone just for being a dick. LE/Caliborn is stuck in the timeloop that is Homestuck Acts 1 through 6, the kids and trolls escaped it through creating the new universe Caliborn will never enter, so he has essentially lost even if within the narrative he never dies and is always present in the story, because his story has no end, while the main characters have found a new story.
Who knew she was secretly an ultimate self who could see the narrative structure. I guess her opening act 7 and conducting it was foreshadowing
I can't stop listening to this track, it's so epic so beautiful and made me very emotional the first time I watched the clip.
Dude it STILL makes me cry! Even now as I'm listening to it, I'm blubbering like a baby!
I love when the motif from "Even in Death" sneaks in around 5:35
I've had the last motif stuck in my head for a week, and every time it plays over in my head, I die a little more inside
Hear a soundtrack called Even in death, from (Roxy: Sleepwalk).
@@anubiscerberus4348 its also on [S] Void
In the ashes of paradox space, lit by the final embers of the Green Sun, the conductor's Overture begins a new tale.
Homestuck^2: Beyond Canon.
Starting with *The Note Desolation Plays* , followed by the *Raise of the Conductor's Baton* , and concluding with *The Rapture* upon the defeat of Lord English.
"Homestuck doesn't die. They GOD TIER."
"Just because it's finished doesn't mean it's forgotten"
Homestuck ain't over, my friends. This is just the beginning
-end super inspirational speech
+Dat Weird 69er thanks for playing guys
we did good
Well, we've yet to hear whether Act 7 was Just, Heroic, or neither, sooooo
+UltrawaveStudios
It was something else.
It was Cathartic.
+Dat Weird 69er
"You don't have to 8e alive to make yourself relevant. And you don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero. You just have to know who you are and stay true to that."
Meenah Peixes no
we have to escape somehow
A cycle that never ends. This is not an end, not a beginning, not a middle. These are just flow of events that all connect. They have meaning to eachother but not to outside. It is a depressing, gloomy cycle with sparks of light occasionally shining.
Homestuck.
Such is the way of Sburb, after all.
Happy 4/13.
=D
*homestuck is the best anime*
Agreed.
boku no pico is the best anime
+Anime Snowman I disagree.
everyone knows cory in the house is the best one...duh
Cory no Pico
Boku in the house
The 2 best animes ever
"Thanks For Playing"
it wasnt until after i sat throught my unbelievably cancerous music class that i realized this has a meaningful name.
damn. makes me sob every god damn time.
Hey everyone here, no need to cry!
Homestuck 2.0 was announced May 9th.
We'll be fucking more conventions than ever.
Watch Hussie wait until the 25th of October to release it for the aesthetic
+Daemon Frazier 13th of April maybe
Anime Snowman
Final battle was on 4/13, (start of comic) final album on 6/12 (start of hivebent), which is why I say that (GAME OVER, Cascade, etc etc). Maybe 11/11. idek
oh how much you would regret those words now
@@angelshot9264 I wish for the good old days before Beyond Canon existed.
The pose of Calliope on the cover reminds me of the pose of Christ on the crucifix. Given that her arrival and actions resulted in what Andrew called "The Rapture", I would like to think this was intentional by the artist.
BoyBeyondTheStars
You shall soon find that literally everything in Homestuck has deeper, hidden meanings. If you look closely, you can find parallels to just about every piece of influential literature in human history. This shit digs deep.
@@siliconmonday You can be atheistic, even have personal vendettas against religion (I know I do) but many religions are sources for the ideas in art and stories.
Of course, the other side of things is that artists rarely intend to impart as much meaning as random people end up assigning to the art, so you could be right that this was never part of the artists intention.
@@blahthebiste7924 I mean most of the best stories tend to use bits of mythology and religion to spice up the story. Just take the Xeno series or the Percy Jackson series for examples between subtle and actively using religion and mythology to spruce up a story.
@@drakath5727 This is what I just said, no?
THE THEORY IS REAL!!!
HOMESTUCK WAS AN ANIME ALL ALONG!!
Salted Sea webcomic is different with anime...actually...
jeseong lee r/woooosh
@@neosniper8940 umm? What are you meaning?
jeseong lee That’s the sound of the joke going over your head
This was the perfect ending for Homestuck, everything was so intense and magical, but... HS^2 had to ruin it. It's a shame that it couldn't have just been left at this. I guess, in a way, Homestuck is the Dragon Ball of web comics, it'll never truly end but it'll never be as good as it originally was.
I came up the the term "official fanfiction" for dragon ball gt when I was a kid and have now happily put the epilogues/hs^2 in the same category.
@@theiris1002 i mean, yeah thats what it is considering they officially call it “dubiously canon”
I liked Homestuck^2, although it's sad that it's probably not gonna get ever finished
@@theiris1002 That's pretty much how Hussie described it at the time, right? So yeah
when i read the epilogues, i actually went into a depressive episode for days. I never understood why they couldn’t just let our heroes be happy. were the epilogues and homestuck^2 really stories that NEEDED to be told?
I have fin(n)ally searched enough of these clouded waters to dive up from the depths of the internet what the epilogue will contain. BE WARNED: SPOILERS AHEAD!
'You have also correctly divined that the last boss in Homestuck will be a seal with a grenade.' - Andrew Hussie, 11/02/2009. Since this has not occured yet there is no other possibility than for it to occur in the epilogue.
Welp you were incorrect
@@Obliviongamer124 *_homestuck^2_*
@@gnostaoticanarchangautand oh crap I forgot about that being a possibility
_"The hole leaves behind an absence in the sky so calm that continuing to call it a sky wouldn’t seem to do it justice. It’s a perfectly neutral expanse into which anything one can imagine might be summoned. And for a while, anything was. But not anymore. Where the hole gaped just moments ago, there now exists an imaginary line.
Above this line resides all that matters. Below exists all else. Never again the twain shall meet."_ -Homestuck Epilogues, Meat Postscript.
Here God Tier Calliope is describing the boundary between her black hole and the outside world, the line between candy and Meat.
Given the direction of Homestuck^2's waning popularity I imagine that the meat timeline is going to faze out of canonicity and that 'imaginary line' will no longer exist.
If that's the case you could interpret that imaginary line as the seal to God Tier Calliope's black hole, and by extension, all things Non-Canon. Maybe its gonna blow up and consume everything.
@@dandyspacedandy Nice thinking, although it's also definitely still a possibility that a giant animal seal throwing grenades will appear and end homestuck once and for all
I was here when this happened. This is webcomic history.
this webcomic actually made me cry, and it's crazy for me to say that as i don't cry much over media (splatoon 3 was the only other one that did)
i loved this webcomic so much, those 8000+ pages are fucking worth it. the end hit me so fucking hard!!!!
OMFG THE BEGINNING IS ENDLESS CLIMB
BUT IT WASN'T ENDLESS AT ALL
WAS IT
It’s not ending, because ending is running away.
I want to say something. Just some nice and warm words towards a comic that changed my view of things. It just struck me, here at 12:21 am on June 24th, Monday, in 2019. It just hit me during this track when Savior of the Waking World began, and then launched into Explore. This comic’s soundtrack knows how to get you deep, like how A Taste For Adventure makes me feel determined, pumped, and invincible. Music is something that makes up 50% of Homestuck. It adds that true filling to the emptiness when there’s no words. But the thing that got me the most is we hear and fall in love with all these songs, and then they come back in epic remixes towards the end of the comic, just as a reminder to let you know that this is the true end and that the comic wants to cycle back to the most memorable moments earlier in the beginning to show a true lap, a true cycle, a true return to the beginning AS its end. That’s awesome. It’s so cool how these super memorable and iconic and repeating motifs continue to come back and show up once more. Gives off that euphoria feeling, making this comic seem so much bigger than it it. It’s my life now, and even though its over, I shall stay loyal to this thing to the very end. Dammit, Hussie. We love you. And we, or at least, *I* want to thank you for making this happen.
If you want my full story and experience with this beautiful fandom, please head over to Eternity Served Cold, and search for my comment. But its late as I stated before, so I shall so that in the morning (from when I’m writing this). ~Signed, Noble Animations, the Heir of Time.
I swear I never seen a thing more perfect to the begining at the ending than Homestuck...
Wait the name of the ending leitmotif is from the song 'Even In Death' HOLY MOTHER OF BALLS
Also when the song faded out I actually teared up involuntarily, like I was doing something else just listening to the song
I saw your reply in a comment that noticed that ending leitmotif-
coincidence?
The entire base leitmotif is Even in Death.
I haven't even finished Homestuck, yet hearing just the first few notes made me start crying so hard.
Leitmotif is my favorite thing in the world, so when my childhood introduction to *everything* I know and love makes a song that is nothing but leitmotif
*Oh man*
8:15 to the end hits me in the feels so hard.
I loved the ending and you can't fucking stop me!
i have a new appreciation for the "heavy drum"
Crystalanthemums leitmotif.
god damnit i always cry to this
justtim013 the ending is what always gets me
Gets me crying, that is.
this sounds much more festive when sped up
iM NOT CRYING YOU ARE
Nothing will ever slap as hard as 6:06
God DAMN i forgot how amazing this song is.
I just noticed, your channel's name (imperiousMarxist) is supposed to be a ChumHandle, isn't it?
+Hikaru Hisoka yes
Are you, like, an actual Marxist?
no but my fantroll was
I think a lot of us in the HS fandom made chumhandle usernames
Myself included.
mine changed between autismPrime to lazyVillain a little while back, mainly as a tribute to stefan
Someone needs to make the last three-ish minutes its own song like holy shit its so beautiful ;o;
My brother and I were looking at songs to match our character's battle themes... this fits his PERFECTLY! He ended up getting LORD OF FUCKING HOPE! I got Mage of Space...
I am knight of space i think it's the most OP you can get
I'm a Mage of Space too!
MAGE/SPACE BUDDY/BUDDIES!!!!!!!!
how did you both do that? did you do a test or did you classpect each other
Yes just search what is my god tier on Google and look for a test
I'm a Knight of Mind.
Homestuck had an anime after all ;)
OH GOD PLEASE DONT BE OVERRR
I'm not crying you're crying!!!
This song got me into Homestuck :33
I like to come relisten to it every now and again.
Even in death lemotief
i wish 6:20 and onwards has a song of its own
Me too, now that you mention it.
please
what is it, sburban doctor ?
The violin at 6:20 is a variation on Black Rose/Green Sun. The xylophone is playing Sburban Jungle, and the piano is playing Doctor.
This webcomic was simply special. There will never be anything like Homestuck again.
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that this is the best thing ever
My soul leaves my body every single time "Even in Death" kicks in. At 5:35, and then at the end where I straight up choked up.
For many years I have been so amazed and excited by this. It is incomparable.
I'm crying because they killed off my favorite character like a bitch. #BringBackSlick
same, my sister cried for a week straight.
(kicks paradoxical door) brinG BACK SLICK HUSSIIIIEEEEEE
Oh my gosh yes! At least he got to finish his task.
The parts where Vriska used the treasure to re-capture LE (5:36 And 6:06) sound a fucking lot like a Skylanders motif, but I don’t know which one of the many games currently, and it’s been driving me mad for weeks now
If anyone can help me out I’d be very happy
its been years but even to this day when the frog is born I fucking cry.
Theme of The Girl who Vored Lord English
itd be so cool if someone made this song for like an orchestra or something
"The end"
-yep in cryin
thank fuck for epilouges :')
But then it will be over
Ethan Martinez whats an epilogue :^)))
there's a doctor motif on the very last song of homestuck.
how far has buzinkai's magnum opus come
GG, EZ, NO RE
I am sad now.
When it comes to the creation of new things, this is orgasmic and it just works so well...
that gamelan at the end kills me
That ending tho
Homestuck inspired me to write. I always wantedt write fiction butbwas always secon guessing myself, thinking ideas were lame or stupid.
Well this is a story of a bunch of teens playing a video game together in order to become God's while dealing with the biggest mankind in the multiverse and trying to raise a frog to become a literal universe.
If this concept can be turned into a epic tale with a ending making people cry, there's hope for me yet. Just gotta practice and have faith.
This is actually fucking amazing
Fires.
+Dave Strider (Future) As in all the irons in the fire?
Dirk Strider Every. Single. Fucking. One.
Dave Strider Nice.
shots
_Sick_ fires.
Quite beautiful. Wonder what the fashologue would be like.
I cried like a bitch
The very beginning sounds like All is One, One is All from FMA.
Any suspicions that this is nowhere near over?
There's supposedly a Homestuck Epilogue coming and a Homestuck 2.0. It is FAR from over.
oh this aged so fucking well
god damn it. god damn it. g
God
Fucking
DAMNIT
Yes but not nearly as good
this is underrated as hell
is it just me, or is homestuck a creation myth?
I think the thing in homestuck that made me question my existence is the whole god tiering thing
so like, they die, but they sort of like move onto something bigger I guess?
dunno, just got me thinking
A very long and convoluted creation myth, but one all the same.
this track makes me feel things
This goes so hard.
Noice.
jesus christ this music is incredible (i think plazmataz did it?)
Overture was the first part of Clark Powell's Symphony Impossible To Play.
clark powell is plazmataz, fyi.
I was not aware of that. I'm pretty new to the fandom really. ^u^
same, i started reading in like july (^:
I think I managed to get through it during May, actually. So I guess it's just that I haven't been as into the fandom itself. I mostly just listen to the music endlessly thanks to youtube's autoplay... and get in loops that contain stuff from the Prospit And Derse album and start yawning. Sorry Jeremy... or should I say JERRY? We should ditch him.
Woo 800 subs nice work