I only have one caveat to your excellent guide. This is not an easy deck to pilot, so new players may struggle with it. Perhaps you could make a guide about how to best manage your resources in a Lost Zone deck, how to plan out your prize maps, etc. I know watching you play is also a great option, but having a dedicated guide you can return to might be a big help, too. Just a suggestion I wanted to make. 🙂
Thanks for adding the deck in the description so many people don't do that. That's why your the best. The way you describe the role of each card aswell.
THIS IS GREAT! When I first used giratina I was like "how the fuck do I use this deck?" My second test was much better. I really like the combo deck feel of it.
Thx for the upgrade advise. I'm pretty new to the TCG and the only deck i've been playing is Miraidon EX up until now but i want to experiment a little and this video was exactly the advise I needed.
just started playing today after a few good months away from pokemon. in all honesty i only just found out the old game was shut down recently so i have started playing Live. I have been enjoying it but finnaly using this upgraded deck i won my first ranked match after thinking for day 1 i woudnt win a ranked game so thanks.
I played against Spidops ex today on the ladder. It was paired with lilligant Vstar and Leafeon Vmax - great idea from my opponent! Leafeon does 300 damage for two energy with 3 spidops in play!
I like to use comfays flower selecting because it’s an ability I can use a switch card or a jet energy and that puts Garitina on the playing field for abyss seeking
I just start how do I get the switch car card? Also I link my old tcgo account and dont have any of my old cards. how do that work? thanks for your videos
You can migrate your old ptcgo account to ptcg live by clicking migrate in the options menu. You should be able to craft switch cart if you search for it in the deck creator.
As someone who bought a tonne of Celebrations codes before they were expensive, I’m planning to bling out all my decks. Those gold ‘Tina’s from Crown Zenith are just too good to pass up on. I just wish there was an alt-art of Cramorant looking all innocent, to go with its attack. 😂
Coming from PTCGO and booting it up for the first time since the old client shut down, I have 2300, need 2825. I think what I'll do for now is forgo Switch Carts in favor of just keeping Switch and Escape Rope at 4 each, that's 400 right there. Drapion seems like a great counter card, but it's pretty expensive and not essential to this deck's needs- so I'll take that out and see what I can use until I have enough credits for it (I'll worry about that before the switch carts). EDIT: I have a Shadow Rider Calyrex V, so that'll be my stand-in for Drapion V for now. Also, I do have two Switch Carts, so I'll do 3/3 of Switch and Escape Rope.
Been having fun with this deck. Please do another video like this, I'm new to the app so I don't have much credits coming in to help me build, so less spending the better.
Awesome Video! I mainly play the Digimon TCG, but as Flesh and Blood is to expensive as a side game i look more into Pokemon these days. Started with this Deck and your video was exactly what i searched for to go on! Quick question if you want to spill the beans - any good ressources or keywords to learn how to edit Cards how you did in the video? Trying to come up with that for Digimon Videos, but so far have no idea how to archive that really.
i think its better to change roxane with klara, i find it hard to keep roxane, it always ended in lost zone than hand, or i couldnt play it, id prefer corless or raihan for the late game
Nice video! I am new to the game and really liked it. Thorton for me is a really good card. I am generally using it to replace a Comfey with a fallen Giratina, it keeps energies attached to it, and we can evolve it direclty to Giratina VStar in the same turn. It's probably more useful for me because I still have only 2 giratina in my deck.
@@TheSableyes One thing I can't decide on is if Oricorio's worth including. The "reduces damage by 20" version. I pretty much never want it in the active spot, but the passive effect's nice, and the "50 damage to any target" attack might have niche uses for Mew?
Great video! Sadly i've been coming across gardevoir engine decks all day getting every pokemon one shot before i can set up. :( Mew V decks are nowhere to be seen lol
Nice. You should do one for the Miraidon Ex starter deck too. The other attackers are pretty lackluster and one would probably want to use 3-4 Electric Generator cards too surely?
Thanks a lot for the suggestions, I started playing today and had a lot of fun with the base deck so I'll check it out with these upgrades. By any chance do you know how much it would cost to build this deck irl?
Base rarity you're probably looking at around $70 to $80 USD if you have absolutely none of the cards to start. The Giratinas will be the most expensive, followed by the sableyes and radiant greninja. Then a surprising amount of $1 cards like the comfey and battle VIP pass add up quickly. Each of the smaller cards that you may already have will help cut down on the costs, and I'd say that if you've been opening packs somewhat regularly or buying things like the mew battle deck you may be able to get the price down reasonably as low as $55 before having to start buying the singles you need. Plenty of people will trade you base rarity cards if you have a local shop though, even give away things that you may need, so go that route if you like to trade. Good luck!
Pro tip: If you havent migrated yet, all cards that aren't the Giratinas are cheaper on PTCGO. Most of it it's bulk where you can trade 1 pack for 100, Radiant Greninja should be half a pack, and Drapion no more than 2. Save your credits!!
Im brand new to pokemon. Can someone please explain to me why theres a 2022 at botom of barrier . I boughf a bunch of pokemon cards and they all have the 2022 Nintendo sentence at bottom.
I tried to install PTCGL on my window 10 machine. It says "The installation package could not be opened......". Does anyone have the same issue? How can I fix it?
Hi, Im new to the game literally just downloaded it, how can I search on what pack I should open to get the cards? like for example to get other copy of giratina V what packs should I get? Is there a easy way to know that?
I usually use sites like Bulbapedia or Serebii for questions like that. It should be easy enough to find if you type the name of the card into Google. Welcome and good luck!
@@TheSableyes That actualy makes a lot of sense, sorry for the dumb question,you are right I did not search enough, I kinda just open a few videos and call it a day without searching more about it, thanks.
Love your video. My question is that this deck sometimes brick because of only 4 Colress and your main support. If you prize 1 or 2 of them the deck on its own with comfey can't keep up with drawl requirement. In my list I cut 1 roxanne for 1 avery and 1 worker plus have snowpoint temple instead of beach court.
Is this outdated? My given deck already has most of the changes you outlined. It has like 3 or 4 of each giratina, includes manaphy, and has multiple roxannes, and 4 switch carts
I really like your editing skills and presentation in the videos. Everything looks so smooth and professional, great videos!
Thank you very much! I'm trying my best to improve with every video :)
I only have one caveat to your excellent guide. This is not an easy deck to pilot, so new players may struggle with it.
Perhaps you could make a guide about how to best manage your resources in a Lost Zone deck, how to plan out your prize maps, etc.
I know watching you play is also a great option, but having a dedicated guide you can return to might be a big help, too. Just a suggestion I wanted to make. 🙂
This is a really good idea, maybe some time in the future :) thanks for the feedback mate, I appreciate it!
as a fellow designer, i want to know how you did the 3d spinning of all the cards. WHAT IS YOUR SECRET!!
It's actually a free to use plugin from LukeLune on Twitter. Here's a link :) twitter.com/LukeLune/status/1609659758352498704
This video is so well made, props on the editing!
Thanks so much! Appreciate it :)
Thanks for adding the deck in the description so many people don't do that. That's why your the best. The way you describe the role of each card aswell.
My pleasure! I'm glad you found the video helpful :)
THIS IS GREAT! When I first used giratina I was like "how the fuck do I use this deck?" My second test was much better. I really like the combo deck feel of it.
Thx for the upgrade advise. I'm pretty new to the TCG and the only deck i've been playing is Miraidon EX up until now but i want to experiment a little and this video was exactly the advise I needed.
I'm glad that I was able to help! Always happy to help out new players :)
i love the upgrade video for the starter decks i cant wait to see if u do all of them
I'm planning on it, though some will come quicker than others :)
I recently updated my Online tcg and this was the first deck I fell in love with.
Partly bc Giratina is just an awesome looking Pokemon.
just started playing today after a few good months away from pokemon. in all honesty i only just found out the old game was shut down recently so i have started playing Live. I have been enjoying it but finnaly using this upgraded deck i won my first ranked match after thinking for day 1 i woudnt win a ranked game so thanks.
Thanks so much for enjoying the video! I'm glad it was able to help you win some games :)
So glad to see you are making content again!
Thanks so much Giovanni, I'm excited to help people improve their Pokemon Live experience!
I know Arcanine will never be a big deal, but I'll be waiting for your strategy.
Arcanine is my favourite Pokemon, so don't worry, I'll be making him work!
me too! I still find myself playing it anyways haha
I played against Spidops ex today on the ladder. It was paired with lilligant Vstar and Leafeon Vmax - great idea from my opponent! Leafeon does 300 damage for two energy with 3 spidops in play!
*if the retreat cost is 5… 😅
That's an incredible combo, and one I'll definitely look at soon!
yo thank you! this deck has been awesome ! its powerful and its been helping me learn the game as well!
Glad you enjoy it! It's so good to be able to easily get your hands on powerful cards on Live!
these deck upgrades were the reason i subbed and now you strike again, you are such a legend man can you do gardevoir next please
Tricky Gym made a pretty good Gardevoir ex list a few days ago 👍
I'll do what I can :)
I like to use comfays flower selecting because it’s an ability I can use a switch card or a jet energy and that puts Garitina on the playing field for abyss seeking
Looks like I'm finally migrating soon. It's been real PTCGO. At least we're given great starter decks for free!
There could definitely be worse ways to jump into Live!
I just start how do I get the switch car card? Also I link my old tcgo account and dont have any of my old cards. how do that work? thanks for your videos
You can migrate your old ptcgo account to ptcg live by clicking migrate in the options menu. You should be able to craft switch cart if you search for it in the deck creator.
Great video as always Mitch, very professional!
Thanks again! Hopefully I can keep the quality high :)
What a perfect video! Thanks!
No worries at all!
Instant build thank you!!
No worries mate, glad you found it useful :D
As someone who bought a tonne of Celebrations codes before they were expensive, I’m planning to bling out all my decks. Those gold ‘Tina’s from Crown Zenith are just too good to pass up on. I just wish there was an alt-art of Cramorant looking all innocent, to go with its attack. 😂
Yeah mate! Time to bling out those decks!
Great editing, love it!
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much for watching :)
Yeah, I upgraded mine, but then just made Eleki Miraidon instead. a lot easier to pilot
Completely fair! I’m gonna make a miraidon upgrade video soon! :)
Very clean editing 😊
Thanks so much! It was a grind but I’m so keen to improve!
the quality of your vids are insane! pls upload in 4k
Thanks so much! I don’t know about 4K just yet - but maybe one day?
Coming from PTCGO and booting it up for the first time since the old client shut down, I have 2300, need 2825. I think what I'll do for now is forgo Switch Carts in favor of just keeping Switch and Escape Rope at 4 each, that's 400 right there. Drapion seems like a great counter card, but it's pretty expensive and not essential to this deck's needs- so I'll take that out and see what I can use until I have enough credits for it (I'll worry about that before the switch carts).
EDIT: I have a Shadow Rider Calyrex V, so that'll be my stand-in for Drapion V for now. Also, I do have two Switch Carts, so I'll do 3/3 of Switch and Escape Rope.
Those sound like some pretty good changes to me :)
Been having fun with this deck. Please do another video like this, I'm new to the app so I don't have much credits coming in to help me build, so less spending the better.
I've got more coming soon!
Awesome Video! I mainly play the Digimon TCG, but as Flesh and Blood is to expensive as a side game i look more into Pokemon these days. Started with this Deck and your video was exactly what i searched for to go on!
Quick question if you want to spill the beans - any good ressources or keywords to learn how to edit Cards how you did in the video? Trying to come up with that for Digimon Videos, but so far have no idea how to archive that really.
i think its better to change roxane with klara, i find it hard to keep roxane, it always ended in lost zone than hand, or i couldnt play it, id prefer corless or raihan for the late game
Those are perfectly reasonable inclusions :) Feel free to make those changes yourself if you'd like :)
Nice video! I am new to the game and really liked it. Thorton for me is a really good card. I am generally using it to replace a Comfey with a fallen Giratina, it keeps energies attached to it, and we can evolve it direclty to Giratina VStar in the same turn. It's probably more useful for me because I still have only 2 giratina in my deck.
Great Video! Thanks!
No worries :)
Oho, I was just looking into this one. Also been debating if I can make the old Fusion Strike Mew deck work.
You absolutely can - Mew VMAX is still one of the best decks in the format!
@@TheSableyes One thing I can't decide on is if Oricorio's worth including. The "reduces damage by 20" version. I pretty much never want it in the active spot, but the passive effect's nice, and the "50 damage to any target" attack might have niche uses for Mew?
Great video! Sadly i've been coming across gardevoir engine decks all day getting every pokemon one shot before i can set up. :( Mew V decks are nowhere to be seen lol
That's ok, Think about using Sableye to disrupt their Ralts and Kirlia if you can!
Nice vid!
Thanks!
Amazing vid. Very well done!
Thanks a ton!
Nice. You should do one for the Miraidon Ex starter deck too. The other attackers are pretty lackluster and one would probably want to use 3-4 Electric Generator cards too surely?
I'm planning on doing a Deck Upgrade Video for all of the free decks on PTCGL - Miraidon will be coming up soon!
@@TheSableyes Cool thanks man
Lets go! Ty for all the great content.
No worries at all! Enjoy :)
Im confused, why can't manaphy block sableyes attack? I thought it prevents all damage from attacks
Thanks a lot for the suggestions, I started playing today and had a lot of fun with the base deck so I'll check it out with these upgrades. By any chance do you know how much it would cost to build this deck irl?
Now that’s a great question! I don’t but I’m sure that someone will be able to help?
Base rarity you're probably looking at around $70 to $80 USD if you have absolutely none of the cards to start. The Giratinas will be the most expensive, followed by the sableyes and radiant greninja. Then a surprising amount of $1 cards like the comfey and battle VIP pass add up quickly. Each of the smaller cards that you may already have will help cut down on the costs, and I'd say that if you've been opening packs somewhat regularly or buying things like the mew battle deck you may be able to get the price down reasonably as low as $55 before having to start buying the singles you need. Plenty of people will trade you base rarity cards if you have a local shop though, even give away things that you may need, so go that route if you like to trade. Good luck!
Thank you!
Pro tip: If you havent migrated yet, all cards that aren't the Giratinas are cheaper on PTCGO. Most of it it's bulk where you can trade 1 pack for 100, Radiant Greninja should be half a pack, and Drapion no more than 2. Save your credits!!
Yeah If you haven't made the switch you can pick up those cards that aren't free first :)
Im brand new to pokemon. Can someone please explain to me why theres a 2022 at botom of barrier . I boughf a bunch of pokemon cards and they all have the 2022 Nintendo sentence at bottom.
Daaaang, Mitch... When you left us for a bit, did you go to web design school??? Great list and helluva video!
I wish! This is just old fashioned elbow grease :P
Great free deck list! i made this and another nice custom free lightning deck
Nice work! I'm hoping to have an upgrade video for all of the free decks on the channel soon!
yes please make another one of these vids for the metal dialga starter deck. pls
I'm planning on it!
If I don’t have drapion v is there something else I can use?
If you don’t have drapion, feel free to add a new consistency card into the deck to help out :)
I tried to install PTCGL on my window 10 machine. It says "The installation package could not be opened......". Does anyone have the same issue? How can I fix it?
That's one that I've not heard before. Sorry mate :(
Try rebooting your PC.
@@x5xruud Yes. That works. Thank you.
Hi, Im new to the game literally just downloaded it, how can I search on what pack I should open to get the cards? like for example to get other copy of giratina V what packs should I get? Is there a easy way to know that?
I usually use sites like Bulbapedia or Serebii for questions like that. It should be easy enough to find if you type the name of the card into Google. Welcome and good luck!
@@TheSableyes That actualy makes a lot of sense, sorry for the dumb question,you are right I did not search enough, I kinda just open a few videos and call it a day without searching more about it, thanks.
Damn. I'm trying to copy and paste the deck list but the RUclips app won't let me copy from the description. 😅
Oh No! Hopefully you managed to resolve the issue!
Love your video. My question is that this deck sometimes brick because of only 4 Colress and your main support. If you prize 1 or 2 of them the deck on its own with comfey can't keep up with drawl requirement. In my list I cut 1 roxanne for 1 avery and 1 worker plus have snowpoint temple instead of beach court.
Those changes seem fine, but if you prize your consistency cards you’re always going to have a tough time :)
Is this outdated? My given deck already has most of the changes you outlined. It has like 3 or 4 of each giratina, includes manaphy, and has multiple roxannes, and 4 switch carts
Is there a theme deck of this deck on paper?
Should I still upgrade this deck or choose another
I think this is a really good place to start if you're getting into the game. It's going to remain a top contender for a long time yet!
How do you not have a list i can copy and paste??
It should be there now for you! - When I posted the video, some of the cards were'nt on PTCGL yet, so I had to wait until they released :)
lol i cant craft cards cose when i write Drapion filters not owned there are empty...how i can work this card?
I suppose that means you must already own one? I have no idea why this has happened?
I couldn’t find the drapion :( im assuming it wasn’t a card you start with so I’ll just make-do until I acquire it.
You can search for cards you don’t have by filtering “unowned” cards when building your deck :)
how do you make these cards spin, looks cool
It’s a plug-in for premiere pro created by Luke lune! Check it out on Twitter :)
My TCG live says this deck is not allowed, can't use it
Hey bro, how do I craft Drapion V? I don't have it in my inventory because I just started playing PTCGL this week 😅
You need to make sure you filter by unowned, you might not be seeing it because its being filtered away by default
@@TheSableyes thanks bro 😌
Is beach court bugged? beacause i can only change pokemon 1 time in the turn
Beach Court only makes it so Basic pokemons retreat for 1 less Energy, it does not give additional retreats
As above. I wish it let you retreat more than once!!
Is this deck better then the Arceus and giratina vstar deck?
I don't think so - at the moment Arc Tina is one of the stronger decks in standard!
Dude tcg live doesnt let me type in my log in info i cant log in how can i fix that anyone?
I’m not sure, perhaps a support ticket?
This deck is great
Upgrade Miraidon!!
It’s on my to do list :)
So that's not the deck you get now. I just started playing but a lot of the suggestions you made are cards that are in there now